Re: [lro] See, it all figures...

From: John Cranfield (john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 07:28:46 EST

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    I too have welded gas tanks but used the aircompressor to blow the tank
    for 4 or 5 hour before and during the weld. The theory here is, that to
    be explosive the gas/air mixture has to be rich enough so by introducing
    enough air it becomes too weak to ignite.
    On the other hand I have had a tank blow when I was working on something
    else entirely but happened to move the tank so that the filler was the
    lowest point and the gas fumes flowed across the bench. Result: ruined
    sweater & tshirt and 3rd degree burns to most of my left upper arm.
    John and Muddy

    jimfoo wrote:
    >
    > I have welded gas tanks a few times. What I have done is to hook a
    > canister vacuum cleaner in the blow configuration, and let it blow for
    > quite a while. After that, it is hard to smell any fumes. You can also
    > fill it with an inert gas such as argon, co2, nitrogen...
    >
    > Jean-Leon Morin wrote:
    > >
    > > I think it is now possible to express the degree of "disorder" of the
    > > Land-Rover by a constant. It used to be that the need for repair increased
    > > exponentially with the amount of mileage covered, but now I've got it down
    > > to a constant amount of "stuff" that doesn't work.
    > >
    > > Last night I installed some brand new rear springs on Valdez, with (gasp)
    > > new bolts. These springs solved my spring wrap problem (as they are really
    > > HD), my excessive sway problem, and the saggy rear end problem. I was simply
    > > delighted to round corners without having to lean into them, and to be able
    > > to load five hundred pounds of junk into it without having the spring end up
    > > in negative arch.
    > >
    > > Of course, having decreased the overall amount (X) of
    > > unreliability/disorder, mathematics prevailed and left me with a stuck relay
    > > (draining my new $$$ battery) and a substantial fuel leak. The relay was
    > > cured this morning with a new one, but the fuel leak is the real annoyance.
    > > I've fixed that tank once before (it's actually quite solid) but it has
    > > rusted out right where the salt accumulated behind the tank. Excellent.
    > >
    > > Someone mentioned welding... What IS the general consensus of the list when
    > > it comes to welding a fuel tank? Of course, after having removed the tank,
    > > drained it of fuel, filled it with hot water to the brim, and having washed
    > > it with a mixture of soap and steaming water. That should get rid of enough
    > > of the fumes and junk, if not I'd just leave it full of water as I'm welding
    > > it. Ordinarily I wouldn't consider it, but this tank is pretty decent
    > > inside, and overall is in excellent shape. I figure that with a welded patch
    > > of 18 gauge over the rusted area (leaking from a pinhole or something) I
    > > might get some decent life out of it. I hesitate to have it coated as it
    > > won't fix the problem permanently, it'll simply plug the hole until the
    > > whole area is weakened and lets go entirely.
    > >
    > > Am I going to explode if I do this? I figure that washing it should rid it
    > > of a large percentage of vapour, and whatever is left would be "popped" with
    > > a match before welding it. Welding a tank filled with water sounds like a
    > > recipe for a brittle weld.
    > >
    > > J-L
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    > with Jim." Mitch Stockdale
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