LRO: Re: RE: Re: Marin Faure

From: Rich Williams II (richw@nwlink.com)
Date: Tue Apr 10 2001 - 16:09:36 EDT

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    > Bryan
    > 62 88
    > 71 109 <<<< covering both the front yard and the back yard ;-P

    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Faure, Marin [mailto:Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:06 PM
    > To: 'Land Rover Mail Group'
    > Subject: LRO: Re: Marin Faure
    >
    >
    > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:14:52 -0500
    > From: "cde3" <cde3@mindspring.com>
    > Subject: LRO: RE: Marin Faure
    >
    > >If you are bored (as I am) or offended by Marin Faure's e-mails, do what
    I
    > do. Have all of them directly deposited into their own folder which goes
    > directly into the recycle bin.
    >
    > Sounds like a good solution. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone on the
    > list as that wasn't my intention. But the subject of what's a Land Rover
    > and what isn't escalated to the point where it became more an exercise
    > in semantics than a useful discussion, and I'm certainly largely to blame
    > for that. The stuff on youth was an entertaining (but not to everyone,
    > I guess) sideline, but that, too, got out of hand, for which I, again,
    > was largely responsible. So I'm sorry for getting people wrapped around
    > the axle on what didn't seem to me to be very big deals.
    >
    > When I started participating in this list a few years ago, it seemed to
    > be largely made up of people who were interested in keeping their Series
    > Land Rovers running more or less in original form. As this is what I am
    > interested in, too, and is what I've been doing for almost three decades
    > now, I found the list a useful exchange of information. The list has
    > changed
    > dramatically over the last year or so, to the point where it now seems to
    be
    > made up
    > mostly of people who are interested in modifying their Land Rovers to suit
    > their
    > purposes. That's okay, of course. But with a dwindling interest in the
    > marque
    > as built, I suppose it's natural for someone who is interested in the
    > vehicles as
    > they were designed to express some frustration. Judging by the reaction
    of
    > the
    > "new" list membership, I guess I went too far in expressing that
    > frustration. So
    > I'm sorry for upsetting so many of you.
    >
    > Those of us in the US who bought Land Rovers back in the "old days" of the
    > '60s and '70s got used to being almost totally self-reliant outside of
    > finding a
    > parts source. There was no internet, no mailing list, and pretty much no
    > communication between people who had Land Rovers unless you happened
    > to live near someone who had one. For help, you called the few people who
    > were selling parts back then or a Land Rover representative. Of course
    the
    > Land Rover reps were gone after 1974. Those of us who ran Land Rovers
    > back then (and there were a fair amount of folks who did; I'm certainly
    not
    > some
    > sort of rare breed in that respect) learned a lot about the vehicles in
    the
    > course of
    > keeping them going day after day. That's useful information to someone
    with
    > a
    > stock Land Rover, but that knowledge is of dwindling value today, at least
    > in the
    > US.
    >
    > I understand the Toyota FJ40 folks are undergoing the same shift, from
    > driving and maintaining the vehicles as built to heavily modifying them to
    > suit the owners' needs or desires. I'm sorry to see the same thing
    > happening
    > to Land Rovers, but I guess it's inevitable as parts become harder to get
    > and
    > people try to make a forty-year old design cope with today's traffic
    > conditions.
    > I can certainly understand the frustration of trying to drive a stock Land
    > Rover
    > in traffic today, as I am in that boat myself.
    >
    > I will continue to maintain my Series as-built, and if I see a question on
    > the list
    > that I think I can help answer, I'll do so. I'm not reversing my opinion
    on
    > what's
    > a Land Rover and what's a hybrid, but it's certainly not productive to
    argue
    > a
    > point that has no meaning or importance anymore for most Land Rover
    owners.
    > ___________________________
    > C. Marin Faure
    > (original owner)
    > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
    > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
    > Seattle
    >



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