Re: [lro] See, it all figures...

From: Todd Vess (toddvess@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 23:26:21 EST

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    DJ,

    Exactly what is an "Airportable?" Series III?

    Cheers,
    Todd Vess
    Windsor, Colo.
    1990 Range Rover
    1972 SIII Euro 6 5-door CSW "Effie"
    1969 SIIA Euro 6 1-ton Pick-Up "Annie"
    1971 Mini "Minnie"
    1993 VW EuroVan

    > From: Richard Joltes <djoltes@attglobal.net>
    > Reply-To: lro@koan.team.net
    > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:52:33 -0500
    > To: lro@koan.team.net
    > Subject: Re: [lro] See, it all figures...
    >
    >
    > Oh the shipping is definitely billed by item volume, not
    > weight (I had to provide exact dimensions in order to get
    > a shipping quote) but any ship has a gross tonnage rating
    > that can't be exceeded (mind you, I have no idea if one
    > of these ships reaches its rated tonnage with exactly a
    > full load of cars). It was impressive to see the diverse
    > fleet parked on the wharf at Southhampton--we spoke with
    > a married Brit couple who'd just imported(!) a late model
    > Chevy Suburban(!) they'd driven across the USA. They
    > liked it so much they decided to bring it home. <sigh>
    >
    > As you say, they may save some fuel by trimming the weight
    > somewhat, but if all the auto spaces are full and there's
    > additional space elsewhere perhaps they squeeze in some
    > other type of cargo to cut costs and increase profit on the
    > voyage. Anything to make a few extra quid.
    >
    > Much agreed on the "full tanks are safer" idea, but I got
    > the impression they were more worried about, for instance,
    > what might happen if they hit rough seas and a car or two
    > broke loose. There are probably insurance requirements
    > involved as well. And, of course I'm sure all the dock
    > workers "recycle" all that siphoned-off petrol into their
    > own cars. ;-).
    >
    > cheers,
    >
    > dj
    > 1974 SIII Airportable, 'Smudger'
    >
    > Peter said:
    >
    >> Ocean shipping is not billed by weight but by cube.
    >> The amount of freight a ship can carry is almost
    >> always limited by physical size of the cargo, not
    >> weight. Draining a few gallons of gas out of every
    >> car wouldn't even count as to the number of autos the
    >> ship could carry. It's limited by space. Possibly
    >> may effect the amount of HP and thus fuel to drive the
    >> ship, however. If they save a 100 pounds in fuel,
    >> that's 50,000#s less water that has to be displaced
    >> and pushed out of the way as the ship moves.
    >>
    >> There may be something to limiting the amount of
    >> gasoline that could spill. Twenty gallons of gas
    >> splashed on a deck full of vehicles could be enough to
    >> light the entire ship on fire. Of course most fuel
    >> leaks are pin hole corrosion that lets the gasoline
    >> drip out and evaporate before it can accumulate. A
    >> full tank is definitely less of an explosion hazard,
    >> however.
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