What Marin is referring to is the lump that is under the plastic/fibre
ball at the bottom of the the early series3 stick and only revealed when
the plastic bit drops off. I believe the later S3 stick is different.
John and Muddy
Mark Pilkington wrote:
>
> I am a little confused by this because I thought that the Series IIa and Series
> III shifters were identical from the big ball down. (That you can see the top
> of, in the vehicle at the bottom of the gear shaft) There is a Big ball with a
> vertical slot in the side, then a 2 inch tapering shaft to a smaller ball of
> about half an inch diamenter with a groove around it's circumferance horizontally
> into which the rubber "O" ring slips. With a lot of grease on the is ball and
> all over the selectors, the "O" ring should last forever and keep the stick from
> rattling. I think this is the way it is, I had never heard of a lower ball so
> small it would fit between the selectors or even of a lower ball made of anything
> other than the steel of the rest of the gearlever. Correct me if I am wrong.
> Kind regards,
> Mark Pilkington
>
> "C. Marin Faure" wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:09:58 -0500
> > From: Michael Hatton <mhatton@compt.com>
> > To: lro@koan.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [lro] S3 gearlever to S2A?
> > Reply-To: lro@land-rover.team.net
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 Solihull@aol.com wrote:
> > >> Too bad. Seems like years ago, when the nylon bush on the bottom of the
> > > shifter on yer basic series three failed, you ordered a series two shifter,
> >
> > >Wha! There's supposed to be a nylon bush there?! Well that could explain
> > things :)
> >
> > My SIII's original shifter had a sort of molded hard rubbery ball on the
> > end. The ball broke away after four or five years, and it was very
> > disconcerting. The knob machined on the end of the shifter itself was very
> > small, so small, in fact, that it could slip between the slots on the
> > shifting mechanism going from second to third but not shove the rods home.
> > The result was that the lever would be in third, the transmisison would be
> > in neutral, and there seemed to be no way to get the lever back into
> > neutral. I discovered this on my way to work one day in traffic. Some
> > frantic jerking on the shift lever caused it to slip back into neutral.
> >
> > I figured out the problem, and realized there was no practical way to fix
> > the original gear lever. So I ordered a new one, and my supplier
> > recommended the SIIa lever which has a larger machined ball with the O-ring
> > slot. While I waited for it, I had to be careful to shift very precisely
> > with the original lever to avoid the
> > shifter-in-gear-transmission-in-neutral situation again. So shifting from
> > second to third meant pushing the lever straight forward to neutral, then
> > all the way to the right, then straight forward to third.
> >
> > The SIIa shifter eliminates the potential for this problem once and for
> > all. However, it's been my experience that the O-ring in the slot doesn't
> > last very long. However, my shift lever doesn't wiggle and rattle (much)
> > with the O-ring gone, so I haven't bothered to replace the ring. The shift
> > ball has been without an O-ring for some 20-plus years with no problems, so
> > I guess it's not a critical part. But the molded ball on the end of the
> > SIII lever is,
> > so if you can switch to an SIIa lever, you'll be better off. Or have
> > someone weld up a larger ball on the end of the SIII lever. That would
> > work, too.
> >
> > Off to Defender-land.....
> >
> > ________________________
> > C. Marin Faure
> > (original owner)
> > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
> > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
> > Seattle, WA
> > marin.faure@boeing.com
> > faurecm@earthlink.net
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