Re: [lro] Re: S3 gearlever to S2A?

From: Mark Pilkington (mark@skywagons.com)
Date: Tue Nov 19 2002 - 15:53:37 EST

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    I am a little confused by this because I thought that the Series IIa and Series
    III shifters were identical from the big ball down. (That you can see the top
    of, in the vehicle at the bottom of the gear shaft) There is a Big ball with a
    vertical slot in the side, then a 2 inch tapering shaft to a smaller ball of
    about half an inch diamenter with a groove around it's circumferance horizontally
    into which the rubber "O" ring slips. With a lot of grease on the is ball and
    all over the selectors, the "O" ring should last forever and keep the stick from
    rattling. I think this is the way it is, I had never heard of a lower ball so
    small it would fit between the selectors or even of a lower ball made of anything
    other than the steel of the rest of the gearlever. Correct me if I am wrong.
    Kind regards,
    Mark Pilkington

    "C. Marin Faure" wrote:

    > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:09:58 -0500
    > From: Michael Hatton <mhatton@compt.com>
    > To: lro@koan.team.net
    > Subject: Re: [lro] S3 gearlever to S2A?
    > Reply-To: lro@land-rover.team.net
    >
    > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 Solihull@aol.com wrote:
    > >> Too bad. Seems like years ago, when the nylon bush on the bottom of the
    > > shifter on yer basic series three failed, you ordered a series two shifter,
    >
    > >Wha! There's supposed to be a nylon bush there?! Well that could explain
    > things :)
    >
    > My SIII's original shifter had a sort of molded hard rubbery ball on the
    > end. The ball broke away after four or five years, and it was very
    > disconcerting. The knob machined on the end of the shifter itself was very
    > small, so small, in fact, that it could slip between the slots on the
    > shifting mechanism going from second to third but not shove the rods home.
    > The result was that the lever would be in third, the transmisison would be
    > in neutral, and there seemed to be no way to get the lever back into
    > neutral. I discovered this on my way to work one day in traffic. Some
    > frantic jerking on the shift lever caused it to slip back into neutral.
    >
    > I figured out the problem, and realized there was no practical way to fix
    > the original gear lever. So I ordered a new one, and my supplier
    > recommended the SIIa lever which has a larger machined ball with the O-ring
    > slot. While I waited for it, I had to be careful to shift very precisely
    > with the original lever to avoid the
    > shifter-in-gear-transmission-in-neutral situation again. So shifting from
    > second to third meant pushing the lever straight forward to neutral, then
    > all the way to the right, then straight forward to third.
    >
    > The SIIa shifter eliminates the potential for this problem once and for
    > all. However, it's been my experience that the O-ring in the slot doesn't
    > last very long. However, my shift lever doesn't wiggle and rattle (much)
    > with the O-ring gone, so I haven't bothered to replace the ring. The shift
    > ball has been without an O-ring for some 20-plus years with no problems, so
    > I guess it's not a critical part. But the molded ball on the end of the
    > SIII lever is,
    > so if you can switch to an SIIa lever, you'll be better off. Or have
    > someone weld up a larger ball on the end of the SIII lever. That would
    > work, too.
    >
    > Off to Defender-land.....
    >
    > ________________________
    > C. Marin Faure
    > (original owner)
    > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
    > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
    > Seattle, WA
    > marin.faure@boeing.com
    > faurecm@earthlink.net
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