OK. Thanks
John Cranfield wrote:
> What Marin is referring to is the lump that is under the plastic/fibre
> ball at the bottom of the the early series3 stick and only revealed when
> the plastic bit drops off. I believe the later S3 stick is different.
> John and Muddy
>
> Mark Pilkington wrote:
> >
> > I am a little confused by this because I thought that the Series IIa and Series
> > III shifters were identical from the big ball down. (That you can see the top
> > of, in the vehicle at the bottom of the gear shaft) There is a Big ball with a
> > vertical slot in the side, then a 2 inch tapering shaft to a smaller ball of
> > about half an inch diamenter with a groove around it's circumferance horizontally
> > into which the rubber "O" ring slips. With a lot of grease on the is ball and
> > all over the selectors, the "O" ring should last forever and keep the stick from
> > rattling. I think this is the way it is, I had never heard of a lower ball so
> > small it would fit between the selectors or even of a lower ball made of anything
> > other than the steel of the rest of the gearlever. Correct me if I am wrong.
> > Kind regards,
> > Mark Pilkington
> >
> > "C. Marin Faure" wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:09:58 -0500
> > > From: Michael Hatton <mhatton@compt.com>
> > > To: lro@koan.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [lro] S3 gearlever to S2A?
> > > Reply-To: lro@land-rover.team.net
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 Solihull@aol.com wrote:
> > > >> Too bad. Seems like years ago, when the nylon bush on the bottom of the
> > > > shifter on yer basic series three failed, you ordered a series two shifter,
> > >
> > > >Wha! There's supposed to be a nylon bush there?! Well that could explain
> > > things :)
> > >
> > > My SIII's original shifter had a sort of molded hard rubbery ball on the
> > > end. The ball broke away after four or five years, and it was very
> > > disconcerting. The knob machined on the end of the shifter itself was very
> > > small, so small, in fact, that it could slip between the slots on the
> > > shifting mechanism going from second to third but not shove the rods home.
> > > The result was that the lever would be in third, the transmisison would be
> > > in neutral, and there seemed to be no way to get the lever back into
> > > neutral. I discovered this on my way to work one day in traffic. Some
> > > frantic jerking on the shift lever caused it to slip back into neutral.
> > >
> > > I figured out the problem, and realized there was no practical way to fix
> > > the original gear lever. So I ordered a new one, and my supplier
> > > recommended the SIIa lever which has a larger machined ball with the O-ring
> > > slot. While I waited for it, I had to be careful to shift very precisely
> > > with the original lever to avoid the
> > > shifter-in-gear-transmission-in-neutral situation again. So shifting from
> > > second to third meant pushing the lever straight forward to neutral, then
> > > all the way to the right, then straight forward to third.
> > >
> > > The SIIa shifter eliminates the potential for this problem once and for
> > > all. However, it's been my experience that the O-ring in the slot doesn't
> > > last very long. However, my shift lever doesn't wiggle and rattle (much)
> > > with the O-ring gone, so I haven't bothered to replace the ring. The shift
> > > ball has been without an O-ring for some 20-plus years with no problems, so
> > > I guess it's not a critical part. But the molded ball on the end of the
> > > SIII lever is,
> > > so if you can switch to an SIIa lever, you'll be better off. Or have
> > > someone weld up a larger ball on the end of the SIII lever. That would
> > > work, too.
> > >
> > > Off to Defender-land.....
> > >
> > > ________________________
> > > C. Marin Faure
> > > (original owner)
> > > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
> > > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
> > > Seattle, WA
> > > marin.faure@boeing.com
> > > faurecm@earthlink.net
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