Re: LRO: The LRO/RRO test

From: Perrone Ford (ford_p@nettally.com)
Date: Fri Jul 06 2001 - 12:33:25 EDT

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    You know,

       This is just damn silly.  I am on the RRO list and there are any number of competent folk on that list that do PLENTY of work on their rovers.  While you may find a higher percentage of folk on the LRO that do their own work, MANY would be lost (without the shop manual) trying to figure out how to diagnose ECU, fuel injection systems, emission control systems, ABS, etc.  These are VERY complicated systems and take time to learn. 

       I'm getting pretty tired of hearing how coiler people can only manage to figure out how to work the CD player and such.  Last June I started working on my 91 RR.  I have NEVER worked on ANY car in my life before that.  I started with an oil change, and then filters, and then a tune up, and then I did the 72k service which has quite a few things on it.  I have spent the last year learning ALL the systems in my truck from the shop manual and other coiler enthusiasts.  So if I, a relative novice, can learn to service EVERY major system in the truck in under a year, then the collective here could do it in less than half the time.  They are not magic.  They work on simple basic principles just like every other 4 stroke engine mated to a transmission and mounted on a chassis.  The details may be different, but not THAT different.  There is NOTHING electrical you can't run down with a good multi-meter.  And the rest is just wrenching and patience.

       So PLEASE stop bashing coiler owners.  We are not all ignorant prisses, we DO care about ALL land rovers, and we just want to have a good time with our beloved trucks.

    -Perrone Ford
    1991 RR (no radio, weak AC, moldy carpet, full set of tools in the boot)

    (Please note this is NOT a slam on TeriAnn, I didn't have the original post)


    TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

    If you can't figure out how to get the bonnet open on your car and change a
    set of sparkplugs (not said HAVEN't - said CAN'T) then the RRO list is a
    great place.

    But you know we all need to start someplace.   The first time I tried to 
    replace a set of spark plugs I was so clumsy with socket wrenches that I 
    ended up breaking the top off a plug when the socket slipped out.  Then 
    soon afterwards I was driving down the road and heard a big bang followed 
    by rapid banging.  Ends up I did not tighten a plug enough and it came 
    loose and popped put of the hole while I was driving.  I just kept trying 
    and over time figured out how to successfully change a set of plugs.

    I learned on a simple car.  It was intimidating enough before the days of 
    SMOG equipment on a basic V8.  I think if I were to get a newish car I 
    too would be afraid of what I saw under the bonnet.  

    I once borrowed my bosses wife's Sunbird when I had both cars down for a 
    week.  The starter motor went out.  SO I grabbed my tools to pull it and 
    run down to my local auto parts store for a replacement.!
  You know it 
    took me a long whre>

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