This whole thread is pretty funny.
Coilers are _____. Series owners are _______.
No one has a monopoly on a**holes. I know more then a few drivers in
both categories. I know guys in RR Classics and Discoveries that are
really nice guys who will do anything to help beginners (or stranded
veterans) and whose trail knowledge is amazing. I know Series owners
who won't share the time of day and who you couldn't pay me to off road
with. I also know that the opposite is true. Heck, I even know J**P
owners who are good guys.
Someone once told me that the trail is the ocean and the truck is the
vessel. Worship the ocean, not the vessel. It's a bit "zen" for me,
but while I agree that it's fun to be part of a community of like
trucks, the make and model of your truck certainly doesn't change the
quality of the guy behind the steering wheel.
Pretty broad brush strokes being painted by a Parrot Head.
Jeff Bieler
Jeff Berg wrote:
> >Maybe thats why coil sprung guys don't wave more to you guys.
>
> Actually Perrone, at least in my experience, the "attitude" is mostly
> directed at Series owners by coilers. We may not be particularly
> interested in their latest modifications, but we're by-and-large a
> "live and let live" group. Can't tell you the number of times on runs
> I've been faced with comments like "That (stock) Series Rover is
> stuck and holding us up but my (locked, raised, Super Swamper'd)
> Disco got right through. Those guys shouldn't come out on these runs
> if they don't know how to drive." That's annoying comment from
> someone who's "skills" have been bought--not learned. (And it's not
> universal--there are many owners of modified coilers that can drive
> rings around me, they're just usually not the ones making stupid,
> inflammatory, comments.)
>
> Funny thing, when the coiler breaks down on the trail, seems as if
> it's the Series guys who pull out tool boxes and start wrenching. Or
> if a vehicle is stuck and, for some reason, winching isn't the
> answer...who usually figures it out?
>
> Some of my best friends (in fact my very best friend) are coilers,
> and I do hate to generalize. But the best coilers, and I think you
> might even be in this category, are Series guys at heart--they just
> drive a newer truck for a variety of reasons. I may be building a
> coil rig myself--and asking a few questions of my friends here. I
> hate to think that I'll be shunned if I choose to do so.
>
> I also had to chuckle at your comment about newer trucks "idleing"
> through obstacles because in my experience, unless we're dealing with
> extreme climbs, it's the Series drivers who idle and finess their way
> through--the Coilers use gobs of wellie and brute force. Not saying
> either is necessarily wrong--just an observation.
>
> I have no problems with the occasional coil question (or even
> slightly relevant "Scout" question) being addressed on the list.
> (Particularly since I just wrote a tome on video compression.) If the
> discussion gets too long (as this one is approaching--but not for the
> original reason) it should be taken offline. And yes, a new comer
> posing the question should probably be politely informed that there
> may be better resources.
>
> For the record, I think Scouts are very cool rigs. I also like old
> Cruisers and original Broncos and Power Wagons. If I wanted to do
> more offroading on a regular basis I'd probably get a Jeep as there
> seem to be active clubs all around. As a rule I'd define them all as
> vehicles being driven by folks very similar to ourselves--just a
> different choice in how they manifest their interest.
>
> jeff
> --
> ==
> Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT
> jeff@purpleshark.com
> ==================
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> Taste for the good life,
> I can see it no other way.
> --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)
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