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1 | NADdMD@aol.com | 13 | Re: Smiths Oil Pressure gauge question |
2 | Robert McCullough [diese | 9 | spring bushings |
3 | Dale Smith [smithdv1@yah | 27 | Re: not nice |
4 | "John Baker" [daddyo@lox | 9 | Spring Bushes |
5 | "Braman Wing" [bcw6@hotm | 29 | Re: Brake Bleeding |
6 | kiotee@mcn.net (Roy Cald | 10 | Rover Interest |
7 | Vincent Vega [joinow4fre | 12 | Free Membership ! WOW! |
8 | Paul Lonsdale [Lonsdale@ | 19 | Re: not nice (Frank`s sense of humour?) |
9 | Paul Lonsdale [Lonsdale@ | 17 | Re: Friday drivel... |
10 | "Neil Brownlee" [metal_t | 24 | speed and stuff.... |
11 | "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk11 | 43 | Re: speed and stuff.... |
12 | "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk11 | 21 | Sparkin' Plug Questions |
13 | "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk11 | 33 | Coolant Flow & Heat |
14 | "Peter Hope" [phope@hawa | 28 | Re: speed and stuff....and bulkhead update. |
15 | Marc-Andre Leger [ma@wef | 28 | HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! |
16 | Joseph Broach [jbroach@s | 14 | HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! |
17 | William Leacock [wleacoc | 17 | Installing UJ's |
18 | jimfoo@uswest.net | 18 | Re: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! |
19 | Brian Cramer [defender@u | 67 | Parts Clearance!! |
20 | Marc-Andre Leger [ma@wef | 8 | Roll bars |
21 | Ian Harper/Donna-Claire | 18 | generator light |
22 | "Todd Ondick" [tondick@h | 11 | dumb question |
23 | TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema | 35 | Re: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! |
24 | TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema | 26 | Re: dumb question |
25 | "Todd Ondick" [tondick@h | 23 | Half-shaft blues |
26 | "Frank Elson" [frankelso | 20 | Re: not nice |
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:16:54 EST Subject: Re: Smiths Oil Pressure gauge question In a message dated 11/20/98 9:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, pmk11@cornell.edu writes: The sender in my case has an electrical lug and that is all...ergo electrical in nature (no oil line). Nate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Robert McCullough <dieselbob@erols.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:19:40 -0500 Subject: spring bushings what sandy says about the tightness of the bolts may be applicable to his petrol land rover due to vibration, but my diesel engine in SUZY runs so smooth that i can balance a coin on her. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Dale Smith <smithdv1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 06:02:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: not nice Having a slow Friday are we Frank?...:-) Smitty ---Frank Elson <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Something that happened to a friend of mine last night. He was on his way to see his girlfriend and stopped to gas up (put = petrol in) his Land Rover. As he levered the pump petrol shot out all up = his arm. H e went in and they agreed that the pump had malfunctioned and offered = him a free tank of petrol (gas). He refused and said he'd sue. So then he drove off and unthinkingly lit a cigarette, whereupon his arm = set on fire. He waved it out of the window which didn;t help as the extra oxygen fed = the flame. So then the cops pulled him - and arrested him. for possession of a firearm! Best Cheers Frank - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "John Baker" <daddyo@loxinfo.co.th> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:03:51 +0700 Subject: Spring Bushes You might consider bringing your LR here to Thailand to have the bushes changed, parts and labor will run about US 60.00. After you cross the Bering Sea hang a left, then go straight about... :) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Braman Wing" <bcw6@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:38:48 PST Subject: Re: Brake Bleeding I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, so apologies if this has already come up. I have had excellent luck with the brakes on my 88" with a $5 "one man bleeder" from an auto parts store. The device consists of a hose that runs from the bleeder to the bottom of a plastic bottle, which has a magnetic attachment which you can stick on the frame. The idea is to keep the fluid level in the bottle higher than the bleeder screw, so that by siphoning, the fluid exerts a slight back pressure on the bleeder. This way, any leakage past the threads is fluid going out rather than air coming in. I simply open the bleeder and pump the brakes. I had unsuccessfully tried vacuum bleeding and traditional two-person open and close bleeding, but my new system seems to work every time. Not sure how it would work with the more difficult 109" brakes. Really, this method is the same as bleeding the brakes by putting a hose in a bottle and opening and closing the bleeder while someone else pumps the valve. The only difference is you keep the level of the fluid above the bleeder. Hope this helps, Braman 1966 IIA 88" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: kiotee@mcn.net (Roy Caldwell) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:02:02 -1000 Subject: Rover Interest Joseph, Go look up a Clay L. Morrison on campus. He repsonded to an add for Rover for sale that Kern posted. He is at clay@selway.umt.edu. Later Roy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Lonsdale <Lonsdale@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:19:37 -0500 Subject: Re: not nice (Frank`s sense of humour?) << So then the cops pulled him - and arrested him. for possession of a firearm! >> GROAN !!!! Paul Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:21 Ex- H.M. Coastguard Series III 88 Inch "Dougal Mc Landie" B 895 OJT (1984) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Lonsdale <Lonsdale@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:19:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Friday drivel... << or, gag, M***ca L***nski >> She probably did.... Paul Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:23 Ex- H.M. Coastguard Series III 88 Inch "Dougal Mc Landie" B 895 OJT (1984) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@msn.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:47:36 -0000 Subject: speed and stuff.... Hi guys, I have a leaky hub on the 109"...it is just coming out from one nut...should I suspect breathers, or simply replace the gasket and hope that is all...it is dark cold and wet most nights here...so the simpler/quicker the better! Also, what oil SHOULD I put in the gearbox..and pardon my ignorance, WHERE should I put it?! I've only had automatic vehicles prior to this, and as you'll know, they are a bit easier to top up (at least fords are!). Thanks in advance... Neil P.S. It is an ex-MOD vehicle and the underside is coated in a thick black goo, is this some form of protectant? i.e will I need to waxoyl it as well? thanks! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:18:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: speed and stuff.... >I have a leaky hub on the 109"...it is just coming out from one nut...should >I suspect breathers, or simply replace the gasket and hope that is all...it >is dark cold and wet most nights here...so the simpler/quicker the better! Probably the oil seals. If it is in your drums, that is the inner one. The outer one is easy, the inner one is easier your second time around, but maybe an afternoon project. Know what you mean about the weather... It is yuccky up here in Ithaca this time of the year. I should really be out giving my landie a check over, putting in the heater, and putting on the new roof, before it gets worse - but I'm inside... as you probably guessed. >Also, what oil SHOULD I put in the gearbox... 90wt gear oil - buy it by the gallon!! >and pardon my ignorance, WHERE should I put it?! Err, um... boy, you really are ignorant ; ) Apologies - I couldn't resist! There is one square nut on the left side (from the top, facing forward) of the gearbox, and one square nut on the back of the tranny. Don't forget you axels and swivel balls - and your overdrive, if you've got one. > It is an ex-MOD vehicle and the underside is coated in a thick black >goo, is this some form of protectant? i.e will I need to waxoyl it as well? Probably is some sort of protectant. My Ex-MoD had it too, but it has dried up in most places. When that happens, get it off there and put new stuff on. Mixtures of paraffin and mineral spirits can be made cheaply. Cheers - Peter Peter M. Kaskan Uris Hall 231 Office / 607-255-3382 Dept. Of Psychology Lab / 607-255-6396 Cornell University e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu Ithaca NY 14853 http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:22:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sparkin' Plug Questions Hi There - Has anybody noticed any difference in teh plugs specified for a high vs. low compression head? I have RN12YC Champions in there now. Fine as far as I can tell. I bought the ones for the IIa today RN9YC champions. I assume I've got a low head, but haven't really checked yet. Which one of these burns hotter? Should that one be in the low or high head? Why? Cheers - Peter Peter M. Kaskan Uris Hall 231 Office / 607-255-3382 Dept. Of Psychology Lab / 607-255-6396 Cornell University e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu Ithaca NY 14853 http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:35:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Coolant Flow & Heat Hi All - I bought a second heater, one to put where the Smiths is put. The one I've got now, I'll put in the back. So, will there be enough coolant flow for these? I don't want to burn out the pump (which BTW, was rebuilt in the spring). Which direction does the coolant flow, out of the front or the back of the head? Do I need to keep the level of the heaters at or below the head height? I want to mount the second heater on the roofside in back, which would make it higher than the head. Therefore the pump would need to push coolant above it's own height. Might I get a cooling problem? I have the RN high temp thermo to put in, and a radiator muff. The heaters add to 35, 000 BTUs. I wonder how many BTUs past engine operating temp, the 2.25 puts out? Anybody figure out the BTUs of a 2.25 petrol? Sounds like a problem I might have been able to figure 5 years ago in PChem, but that was then, barely... Cheers - Peter (trying to stay warm up here in Ithaca!) Peter M. Kaskan Uris Hall 231 Office / 607-255-3382 Dept. Of Psychology Lab / 607-255-6396 Cornell University e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu Ithaca NY 14853 http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:41:41 -1000 Subject: Re: speed and stuff....and bulkhead update. >Know what you mean about the weather... It is yuccky up here in Ithaca >this time of the year I agree about the weather. It seems like it has rained non stop for the past two weeks. Luckily I have the garage to work on the Landie in (content). But I find that it has become neccesary to put on a shirt as with the wind chill it has only been about 78f degrees during the time. I finally got the bulkhead (more content hehe)all taken down. After placing in the jig, things progressed smoothly. Took about 3 hours to drill out all the spot welds. Have hamer&dolly 'ed them back straight. Also took the twist out of the bulkhead frame. Went ahead and test fit everything back together using some sheet metal screws. Looks pretty good. Gonna try and get all the sheet metal panels over to the auto hobby shop this week so I can bead blast them. Because of cost I have decided not to galvenize them. After blasting I am going to shoot them with an etching primer/paint/lavaliner or POR15. Still havenot decided which. Speaking of POR, has anyone used this stuff on the axle housings? How did it turn out? How has it been lasting. Aloha Pete 'on the concrete island' ps. spotted another series on island yesterday. That brings my count up to 10 on Oahu now. Was a early IIa 109 pickup with an 88 tropical roof. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Marc-Andre Leger <ma@wefa.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:51:42 -0500 Subject: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! Just installed Hella 55w lights and tapped into High beams wire near left headlight. Worked for a few minutes and stopped while I was standing up on the hood adjusting them but now no low or high beam but if I pull on the lever (like to flash at uncoming car) they do go on as long as I keep it pulled, of course... all fuses good, as far as I can tell. I did replace the 7.5A existing light fuses (top 4 right side) with 10A. HELP... car on, lights on low, positions lights go on , no lights lights on high, no position no lights lights switch on pull flasher arm back, all high and Hella ON but engine rev goes a little down (slightly) Sorry for the all out posting but I'm in a big bind. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Joseph Broach <jbroach@selway.umt.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:21:59 -0700 Subject: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! Well, Marc, sounds like you blew the switch. Same thing happened in my old SAAB. Was backpacking at the time and had to drive out 15 miles down a windy mountain road holding the high beam lever with my left hand. Corners were scary when I had to let go in order to shift and steer at the same time! Symtoms sound identical, though, pull it out and give it a look. -joseph and sidney missoula, mt - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:29:20 -0500 Subject: Installing UJ's Peter, I usually scrape all the dirt from around the cap ends, then I try to knock one of the caps out, this usually creates a little clearance between the circlip and the cap enabling the circlips removal, then turn over the shaft and drive the cap about half way out by pressing, or kinetic loading ( hammer ! ) the other cap. It is then possible to pull out the cap using a vice. The cross shaft can then be removed, this this creates clearance for the second cap to be knocked clear of the circlip. Do not be tempted to push the cap straight thro, driving the cap out usually cleans up the hole for fitting the new cap. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: jimfoo@uswest.net Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:24:45 -0800 Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! If you did blow the switch, after you replace it you should run a wire to the battery with a fuse of course, hook this to a relay of at least a 15 amp rating, hook the other terminal to the Hellas, and then wire it to turn on with your regular lights. 55 watts x 2 = 9 amps just by themselves. I'm supprised the 10 amp fuse didn't blow first. BTW, are you still sending the rollbar pics? Jim Hall Elephant Chaser 1966 88" truck cab Joseph Broach wrote: > Well, Marc, sounds like you blew the switch. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
[digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ] From: Brian Cramer <defender@uscom.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:34:41 -0500 Subject: Parts Clearance!! Hi All!! A friend of mine is a LR technician. He's cleaning out his garage, and has a ton of parts for sale. He'd like to move this stuff ASAP, so the prices are cheap. Here’s the list: DEFENDER: GRP hardtop rear corners (new in box) $60@, drivers seat bottom (slight tear) $35, brush bar (slight damage) $75, steering wheel (near new) $35, LT230 t-case $395, R380 trans (needs mainshaft replaced) $250. DISCO: front & rear diffs (good to great) $195@, Disco center console (like new) $45, Disco dash (tan, like new, no peeling!) $300, sunroof glass $75@, updated sunroof pans $60@, steering wheel $45. RANGE ROVER CLASSIC: cargo liner (tall ABS plastic one) $65, running boards (grated type, need paint/powder coating) $75, Genuine brush bar (peeling, needs paint/powder coating) $95, front & rear lamp guards (peeling, need paint/powder coat) $49@pair, tailgate glass $75, heated windscreen $295, steering wheel (early) $35. RANGE ROVER 4.0/4.6: tires (18” Pirelli Scorpions, good condition) $85@, radiator (2000 miles, removed for custom radiator install, like new) $275, front diff (under 4K miles) $195, left & right outside mirror assemblies $95@, 4.0 crankshaft (like new) $125, steering column (like new) $125, steering wheel $45. MISC: many used starters, alternators & A/C compressors, some good, some cores, only $35@. Front covers (external oil pump type) $150@. Many, many other parts. Email with your needs. All parts are in the Philadelphia area, and prices exclude freight. Cheers, Brian Cramer Mount Laurel, New Jersey '94 D90 (#1251) '90 RR County '70 IIa Lightweight '60 II SWB (609)273-9708 home (888)434-4678 office (609)665-4451 office fax (609)841-3586 cellular ICQ #5696173 --=====================_93702615==_.ALT [ Original post was HTML ] [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" ] [Attachment removed, was 158 lines.] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Marc-Andre Leger <ma@wefa.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:48:42 -0500 Subject: Roll bars I need to take the pics and will post them on my web site. thanks for the info on the lights - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:04:11 +0000 Subject: generator light To tag on to this problem, what about the generator? My light comes on and stays on, but the battery is not wearing down so it's obviously getting recharged from somewhere. And BTW how do you adjust the output (which screw on the bottom) of the 2 coil voltage regulator? Cheers, ian -- Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod http://www.golden.net/~tantramar Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast Stratford, Ontario Phone(519) 273-7771 Fax (519) 273-3993 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Todd Ondick" <tondick@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:05:13 PST Subject: dumb question Fuel mixture adjustment for a Rochester carb... which direction do you turn the screw to lean the mixture out? I told you it was dumb! -Todd Ondick '65 IIA 88 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 98 19:06:53 -0800 Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED... It's getting dark ! >Just installed Hella 55w lights and tapped into High beams wire near >left headlight. ;>Worked for a few minutes and stopped Consider providing the Hellas with their own circuit. You high beams headlamps draw a lot of current, esp if you have added a higher power headlamp sometime in the past. This current goes through you light switch and the foot switch as well as the fuse. Adding additional lamps in parallel with the high beams doubles the power flow and overloads the circuitry. You run the risk of overheating and damaging switches and possibly melting wire insulation. You may have damaged the lighting switch. New switches are still available for the positive earth LRs & I believe also the neg earth lighting switch. What you want to do is add a relay. Have the high power go from your battery through the relay directly to the lamps. Use a switch to power the low current input to the relay. If you want you can get power for the switch & relay coil off the high beams so that the switch only works when the high beams is on. The relay coils are low current devices and should not adversely affect your headlamp circuit. TeriAnn Wakeman If you send me direct mail, please Santa Cruz, California start the subject line with TW - twakeman@cruzers.com I will be sure to read the message http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create beauty wherever you go. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 98 19:11:10 -0800 Subject: Re: dumb question >Fuel mixture adjustment for a Rochester carb... which direction do you >turn the screw to lean the mixture out? I told you it was dumb! Clockwise. You screw the needle in. Screw the needle all the way in then out 1-1/2 turns. This is generally balpark for ths carb in this installation. You do not want to screw the needle in tighly. It will grove the brass valve. Tighten if with you fingers if you can. Remember that this only affects the idle circuit. Good luck. TeriAnn Wakeman The Green Rover, rebuilt and Santa Cruz, California and maintained using parts from twakeman@cruzers.com British Pacific 800-554-4133 http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create beauty wherever you go. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Todd Ondick" <tondick@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:21:15 PST Subject: Half-shaft blues Howdy everyone... I've just gone through the front end of my IIA and had a bit of a problem with the short-side half-shaft. Upon fixing new locking hubs (ones that actually lock), I notice a wierd vibration at highway speeds (35mph+) with the hubs locked and the t-case in 2wd. Apart comes the front end, only the half-shaft is stuck. a few quck pulls with a hammer attached via webbing solved that. The splines are not twisted or terribly worn with no metal in the oil, either. what is up? -if the case is bent (odd for the short side) would it stick like this? -how about diff or carrier problems? if anyone has run across this sort of problem or has any ideas, please let me know. thanks. -Todd "Too bad I don't get paid for working on this thing, 'cause I'd be rich a rich man" Ondick '65 IIA 88 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:41:53 -0000 Subject: Re: not nice well, what happened was my son Neil came 'round with his Ser3 and told me the joke with a straight face..... he was cursing and swearing at the new seat belt we were fitting when I felt an urgent need to go and repeat his joke..... Best Cheers Frank +--+--+--+ I !__| [_]|_\___ I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 981122 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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