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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:18:29 +1100
Subject: The prince is back

Sandy Grice wrote:

>winking at me periodically, unrelated to engine RPM.

Sandy, what type of alternator do you have?  The Lucas 15AC?  If so, I'd have a 
close look
at the diode pack.  The 15AC diode pack is notorious for the diode junctions 
breaking.
The diodes are manufactured as part of the heat sinks and the junctions are 
merely
siliconed over.  I pull the packs apart, drill thru the heat sink and install a 
normal car
alternator diode and solder it in.  Then I reassemble the pack.

In fact, I've just come in from the garage after fixing my son's 15AC diode 
pack.  It had
three broken diodes.  If you (very) gently move the diode leads, whilst 
watching the
silicone rubber, you'll see that they pull upward.

I've rebuilt a number of diode packs over the years.

Regards,

Ron

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From: IBEdwardp@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:47:29 EST
Subject: Re: Heaters

I got my Kodiak last spring (Thanks, Tony), and it is a horse! Bolts into
existing holes in the bulkhead, ducting and hose from the local parts store
and you're in business. The defroster is not as effective as some trucks I've
owned, but it works. The heater will positively burn you out (but, of course,
it's adjustable). I too looked at the J.C. Witless stuff, but I'm really glad
I found the Kodiak. 

Ed Bailey
66 S2 88
(Usually lost) Somewhere in East Tennessee

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:47:05 -0500
Subject: Re: The prince is back

Re: Winking light:

Not sure which alternator you have, but the last time Mr. C did this to me the
problem was a bad connection to the output lug on the back of the alternator.
The lug had broken, and the light stayed on only as long as the bits were
connected together...

Sandy, check the connections on the back.

                    ajr

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:50:07 -0500
Subject: Re: stop light switches.

The hydraulic switch that a Rover uses is a direct replacement for the one used
by the old VW Beetle. Any local autoparts store should have a replacement for
you.

Mr. C. has this one also - works fine, lasts a long time.

                    ajr

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:22:45 -0600
Subject: RE: Mud and more Mud

>Luis, I salute you!  That devil may care. "let's get there!" is a part of
what
>Rovers are about Mixes included.  What was your plan if you had broken a
>halfshaft?

Belive it or not that was the only probable incident I planned for: I
carried two "welded" spare shafts, enough wrenches/spanners and the like,
water-proof boots and a vinil coat! I was missing a shovel but I guess that
could have been solved.
And, hey, an agricultural tractor could not be more than a couple miles away
from where I was (or at least I supposed so, and that served as false
comfort!).

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:52:01 -0500
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>   1  Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za   22 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>   2  Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc   20 Freelander Recall
>   3  Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za  137 Re: Expedition LRs/design
criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>   4  Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za  137 Re: Expedition LRs/design
criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>   5  Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za   28 Adapter paltes, bellhousings,
etc.
>   6  "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>     32 C.A. relief adventure...
>   7  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   25 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>   8  "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>     18 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
>   9  "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>      2 [not specified]
>  10  Leger Marc-Andre <mleger@wefa.com   33 RE: Snorkel
>  11  TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers   38 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>  12  M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth   12 Re: The 2.25 diesel
>  13  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z  109 Re: Expedition LRs/design
criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>  14  "Lee Dunkelberg" <lee_dunkelberg@    7 Puka
>  15  M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth   44 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>  16  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   40 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>  17  TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers   22 200tdi hot rodding?
>  18  TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers   22 LD28 question
>  19  "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com   10 Re: Puka
>  20  "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com   20 Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  21  CIrvin1258@aol.com                  17 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
>  22  "Braman Wing" <bcw6@hotmail.com>    17 Coil Conversions
>  23  David <David_R@mindspring.com>      19 LRO archive expert 
>  24  "Wilson, Scott" <Scott.Wilson@via   20 RE: LRO archive expert 
>  25  "Wilson, Scott" <Scott.Wilson@via   11 test - sorry...
>  26  SPYDERS@aol.com                     24 Re:  Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  27  "Wilson, Scott" <Scott.Wilson@via   18 RE: test - sorry... one more 
>  28  Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>       12 Re: 200tdi hot rodding?

>  29  "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>     22 Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  30  "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com   17 Front Springs
>  31  hstin@cts.com (Henry Stinson)       27 Overloaded Rovers
>  32  Jpslotus27@aol.com                  23 200tdi hot rodding-turbo fun
(no LR)
>  33  "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>     32 C.A. relief adventure...
>  34  Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>   50 Re: C.A. relief adventure...
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>  45  "Jeff and Chris Jackson" <jcjcj88   22 Heaters
>  46  "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.   15 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>  47  David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>      18 Re: Expedition LRs/design
criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>  48  "Scheidt, David, NPG" <dscheidt@a   15 Re: LRO archive expert
>  49  SPYDERS@aol.com                     21 Re:  Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  50  hstin@cts.com (Henry Stinson)       34 Expedition Rovers
>  51  Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>       22 Re: 300Tdi
>  52  Lorri Paustian <lorri@sound.net>    23 Re: C.A. relief adventure...
>  53  car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>    20 20.00 Camper modification
>  54  SPYDERS@aol.com                     20 Re:  The prince is back
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>  68  DNDANGER@aol.com                    20 Re: stop light switches.
>  69  DNDANGER@aol.com                    22 Re: Overweight Rovers - was
Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines
>  70  "Vel Natarajan" <vel@enteract.com   39 Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  71  Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hg   20 Re: Mud and more Mud
>  72  David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>   12 Re: Mud and more Mud
>  73  "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.c   18 Round Smith's Heater

>  74  "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.c   34 Transplants (engines)
>  75  "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.c   37 GM diesels into series
>  76  DNDANGER@aol.com                    12 Re: The prince is back
>  77  "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com   12 Pop Tops
>  78  DNDANGER@aol.com                    31 Re: I know I've been here
before, but...
>  79  Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za   23 1WD was Re: Expedition
LRs/design criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>  80  DNDANGER@aol.com                    28 Re: Diesels Temperature
>  81  Marcel Viljoen <marcelv@msmail.cs   48 Idiot can't troubleshoot
>  82  "William S. Parker" <wildbill@wxs   22 Overdrive
>  83  Marc Rengers <mr@b4m.com>           48 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ?? SOLUTION??
>  84  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   19 Re: 200tdi hot rodding?
>  85  Marc Rengers <mr@b4m.com>           48 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
>  86  Marc Rengers <mr@b4m.com>           31 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ?? SOLUTION??
>  87  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   21 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
>  88  Marc Rengers <mr@b4m.com>           32 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
>  89  Peter =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thor=E9n?= <   26 Re: Diesels Temperature
>  90  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   31 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ?? SOLUTION??
>  91  Axel Pawlik <axelpawlik@tinet.ie>   19 Re: CB or CV Master?
>  92  "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.z   43 Re: Smashed heaterplug by
cylinder ??
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> "awarded to the Team of 3 people who have the lowest score in the RTV
>  78  DNDANGER@aol.com                    31 Re: I know I've been here
event" 
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> "awarded to the Team of 3 people who have the lowest score in the standard
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>  53  car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>    20 20.00 Camper modification
>  54  SPYDERS@aol.com                     20 Re:  The prince is back
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>Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:14:53 +0000
>Subject: Freelander Recall

>I read with interest this weekend that Land Rover were re-calling a number
>of the earlier Freelanders, due to a problem with some welding round the
>rear suspension (must be a lack of experience with monocoque bodies -
>wouldn't have this problem with a proper chassis!!!).
>I also noted that in the latest TV advert for the Vauxhall Frontera, they
>mention the 'new ladder chassis' as an improvement - interesting.
>  54  SPYDERS@aol.com                     20 Re:  The prince is back
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>No comment, although the transfer box does have a tendency to jump out
>of gear when the gears become worn and fling apart under strain - this

>is fairly easy to remedy, though.
>> If I put an engine of significantly more power than stock in a true
>> "expedition vehicle" i.e. one that was going to be used in arduous
>> conditions, not driven on tar to camping grounds, I would make
>> damn sure that I changed the gearbox for something of a higher
>> spec., preferably with 5 speeds for the a to b functionality, and if it
>Yes, but what?
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>From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
>Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:49:44 +0200

>Subject: Re: Expedition LRs/design criteria (was overweight & santana 6)
>Andy Grafton wrote:
>> One
>> thing that I feel strongly about is that the standard Series (be it I, II,
>> IIa or III) gearbox really isn't made to take more torque or power
>> than is put out by a standard 4 or 6 cylinder motor. 
>I don't think L-R actually designed their drivetrain components to yield
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>> 4 cylinder series vehicle to make it more expedition compatible I
>> would vote for a more highly specced gearbox every time; 5th gear

>> would make cruising a lot nicer without the relative fragility of an
>> Overdrive, and the gearbox would be running at much less than its
>> design load...  
>Me, I'll just leave in the skinny sideshafts and replace them whenever
>necessary.
>> I'd find it difficult to think of an engine more suitable
>> then the 4 cylinder petrol/diesel when you take into account
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>at about US$94 excl p+p, and if you're international you'll get the VAT
>of 14% on the purchase price chopped off.

>Hope this helps someone. I have NO connection whatsoever to Gilo and all
>the usual disclaimers apply.
>Regards
>Paul Oxley
>http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
>http://Adventures.co.za
>> then the 4 cylinder petrol/diesel when you take into account
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>been damaged and come loose inside the cylinder bore. In any case, you 
>need to pull of the head and inspect the damage. Even if you find nothing 

>wrong, you'll have had a very interesting weekend.
>Bill Adams
>3D Artist/Animator
>'69 Buick LeSabre Ragtop
>'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
>'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
>"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"
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>twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message
>http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

>Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
>beauty wherever you go.
>From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
>Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:25:29 +0000
>Subject: Re: The 2.25 diesel
>'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
>"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"
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>Why not?  Seems to work OK as long as you lock the diff before 
>hitting anything remotely un-solid or rough.

>> > Overdrive, and the gearbox would be running at much less than its
>> > design load...  
>> Me, I'll just leave in the skinny sideshafts and replace them whenever
>> necessary.
>> Defender boxes.
>Sideshafts = fuse?....  Hmmm.  All well and good but those go 
>under 'normal' circumstances with a 4 cylinder.
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>and what have you got? A mongrel.OK,fine,its your motor you do what you
>like with it,but at the end of the day you've probably spent more time

>and money,particularly money,than you would have spent if you'd gone
>out and bought a vehicle more suited to your evident requirements in the
>first place.And when you come to sell it,it wont fetch a deal either.
>When I bought my 11A SWB diesel,I "evaluated" it to see whether I could
>live with its drawbacks,and decided I could.In other words,I "evaluated"
>the thing as it stood,*not* as it could be if I modified it.Since I've
>had it twelve years now,I suppose I was correct in my assessment.
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>matter, they will run on *really* low-grade fuel as long as it is clean. 
>Romainan diesel plus 2.286 diesels resulted in a 25% decrease in 

>top speed, a need to retard the ignition, and green smoke, but the 
>engines still ran smoothly.  Not sure if a direct-injection diesel 
>engine would be different?
>In my experience, Paul is right; all gas stations have petrol.  Not all 
>have diesel, esp. in Southern Africa.
>All the best,
>had it twelve years now,I suppose I was correct in my assessment.
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>Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:02:55 EST
>Subject: Re: Smashed heaterplug by cylinder ??

>In a message dated 98-11-09 08:52:38 EST, you write:
><< The heater plug cannot get smashed by the cylinder, as it sits inside a 
> preignition chamber.  >>
>...Perhaps that is why my truck smokes so much: I can look into the heater
>plug and injector holes, and clearly see the pistons! Maybe my hot spots are
>gone? Not sure, since I know they're still in place - I think. (no piston /
>had it twelve years now,I suppose I was correct in my assessment.
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>1977 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (sort of)
>http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r
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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:56:24 -0600
Subject: RE: Diesels Temperature

>Hi luis, in *general terms*, there are two different temps, oil & water...
>I don't know what your guage is connected to.

It is connected to the water conducts.

>The water temp should be something like 180F or below boiling (duh!).
>I don't know what your guage is connected to.
water
>boils at 212F, and I don't know the conversion.

Water boils at 100C, so below that I guess its fine. I assumed it should be
something similar.

>The oil temp can, but doesn't necessarily have to be: 214-218F, or slightly
>above boiling point for *water*, so that any water vapour or condensate in

the
>oil can boil-off. This is just something that is acceptable, not
necessarily
>what your oil temp will be. Some engines have oil coolers, etc., and some
>don't need it.

Mine has none.

>Your best bet is to find out from a Toyota dealer what the numbers are for
>your particular engine...

I will try to do that. I've been told that the Toyota Dyna trucks use
exactly the same engine. It should be easy.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:03:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Idiot can't troubleshoot

Marcel Viljoen wrote:
> Hi
> My SIIa, 2.25 petrol, has developed a surging/misfire type of problem
> that has me baffled.  The vehicle has a Weber 34 ICH carb and K&N
> filter, but is otherwise original.  The misbehaviour usually starts as a
> "surging" when applying full throttle, irrespective of gradient, and
> then deteriorates to a kangaroo like hop until you lighten up on the
> throttle.
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> Thanks for helping out.  Sooner or later I will learn about these things
> properly
I don't have any written info on the weber but a fair bit of experience
with it.
     There are 3 main areas that could cause your problem.
   1:  Vapour lock. These carbs are notorious for vapour lock when
fitted to LandRovers. What happens essentially is that the fuel
vapourizes in the line just before it gets to the float bowl of the
carb. This means that there isn't enough fuel pressure to full open the
needle valve to fill the float bowl. There are ways to over come this.
   2: Fuel level too low in the float bowl.
   3: Dirt in the jets.
          If your problem has just started then It is almost certainly
dirt. This carb is very simple and easy to clean with out needing
replacement  parts. To take the top off you just remove the choke
cable,  pull a tiny R clip and undo 4 screws after disconnecting the
fuel line.
   mop up the gas in the float bowl and take out the jets and clean them
with a blast of air.
   John and Muddy

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:06:14 -0600
Subject: RE: Diesels Temperature

>Let's try this again Major
> SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi luis, in *general terms*, there are two different temps, oil &
>water...

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> > I don't know what your guage is connected to.
> Probably to his reverse lights :0

It was probable, but not true in this case. I can tell for sure because I
allready checked the reverse lights circuit!!!
That was the other suspicious cable I found comming out of my fuse box. It
went directly to the gearbox, and out to a Hella on the back!!
SO, you were not that far away from the truth, it was a trouble SPOT too!
Today I'm buying some 3 or 4 relays to wire-up everything the way it should
be.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:34:31 -0600
Subject: RE: Mud and more Mud

>Did Costa Rica escape the hurricane or just not get it as bad as those
>south of you????  Really a sad situation in Nicaragua.  Sounds like you
>came through with only a chance to test your mud driving skills.  What
>tires are you running, by the way???
>Aloha Peter

We had some trouble with Mitch. We didn't get it as hard as the other
Central American countries north (not south) from us. Plantations were
afected (specially DOLE's banana ones, being CR the second world's largest
banana producer this means big bucks for this USA company).
Some other crops were affected. There were some flooding but not greater
than others non-hurricane related. Some slides ocurred on roads, but all of
this were cleared a couple days later.
Nicaragua and Honduras really were hit very hard by Mitch. In Tegucigalpa
they think half the population was left homeless, services are still down,
72 bridges fell down. Can you imagine 5-7000 casualties? Its horrible.

About the tires, I've been trying to find out who makes them with no luck.
They are 33X11.5 on 15" steel wheels. They read SIDEWINDER RADIAL, and a lot
of "literature" stamped on them. They read as produced in the USA, but
doesn't say by who. They performed great in mud and rocky terrain, the
problem is that if I dont know who makes them how can I find a spare If I
need it?
I read some time ago somebody mentioned Sidewinders and that they where mfd.
by Pendlam (?), could that be true? Anyone?

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:36:32 -0600
Subject: RE: Mud and more Mud

>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Faye and Peter Ogilvie wrote:
>:came through with only a chance to test your mud driving skills.  What
>:tires are you running, by the way???
>He has Magma-hydros, doesn't he?

No, I only use those for special ocasions. As we are in hurricane-mode they
are no good.
:-))

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:47:27 -0600
Subject: RE: Transplants (engines)

>In Australia, the GM-Holden 179ci, 186ci and 202ci straight 6 engine
conversion is as
>common as muck.  There's probably more LRs out there with Holden engines
than LR engines.
>This is definitely NOT the basic Chev motor that Toyota used in the early
FJ Land
>Cruisers.  It is a small, lightweight car engine that performs
exceptionally well in the
>LR - and spares are cheap and easy to obtain.  After all, hundreds of
thousands were built
>here in Australia by GM-H

What are we talking about here?
What is that Chev engine that Toyota used for early FJ's?
All FJ 40's, (at least here in CR), where fitted, when diesel, with the 3.0
liter 4 cylinder engine that I'm currently using under my bonnet.
Is this the engine you are refering to?

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:05:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Idiot can't troubleshoot

I have info on the carb which I can e-mail. It is 1.2MB worth, so I
won't send it unless you want it.

Marcel Viljoen wrote:

> The vehicle has a Weber 34 ICH carb and K&N filter, but is otherwise 
original.  
> Could the carb be the problem? - If so what should I look for, and if it
> involves stripping, does anyone know a web site that has info on this
> carb?

Jim Hall 
Elephant Chaser 1966 88" truck cab

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From: Jpslotus27@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:13:47 EST
Subject: Re: Idiot can't troubleshoot

In a message dated 98-11-10 09:04:08 EST, you write:

<<  My SIIa, 2.25 petrol, has developed a surging/misfire type of problem >>

   Sounds like a fuel problem to me.  You changed to fuel filter already.  Did
you pull the hose from the carb and activate the fuel pump to see if you are
getting adequate flow to the carb?  Could be that the fine screen on the pick-
up in the tank is clogged.
   Keep us informed as to what you find.  These problems are extremely
frustrating to me.  

enzo (I'll take 3 broken half shafts over 1 mystery mis-fire anyday)

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:15:43 EST
Subject: Unsubbing for a while...

Going off the list for a while, some erratic travel and work schedules means I
may not be able to read & clear the mailbox...

Keep the list warm, 

--pat.

(it is kinda like the JFK memorial, with a perpetual flame)  ;-)

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From: Rob Modica <rmodica@east.pima.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:28:37 -0700
Subject: Conn RR in Tucson

All;

On the way to work this morning I saw a green Rangie Classic with SG front 
bumper, roof rack w/ mountain bike and a spare tire, BFG MTs (looked about like 
245s) and Connecticut plate number 552 MVN.  Anyone on the list?

Rob

Rob Modica, Tucson AZ                    '51 Series I 80" 16136629  "La Rana"
Arizona Land-Rover Owners              '60 Series II 109" 16400620 Safari SW  
"The Tortuga"
rmodica@east.pima.edu                    '94 Disco 5spd 

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 07:31:55 -0800
Subject: RON - Re: Transplants (engines)

>Australians consider the LR engine too underpowered
> and too slow on highway.  If one is looking for a Series
;> LR here, one normally check to see that it has a 
;> Holden engine fitted.

;>TeriAnn, if you want to change the motor to a non-LR unit,
;> you bloody well go ahead.  I won't rubbish you.  But I do
;> commend you on producing what sounds to be a  great
;> off-roading vehicle.

; >Ron

Ron thanks for the data points and encouragment.
I have always felt this "need" to be understood so I 
will probably continue to bat at the nay sayers out there.
The feeling that the engine is the heart and soul of a LR 
is primarily a North American hang up that I will have to deal 
with since I tend to hit a lot of LR meets.

I noticed that you mentioned a petrol engine to be THE 
common transplant.  I have been working under the notion that 
in everyplace except North America, diesel is the more common less 
expensive fuel.  I just learned that South Africa is more 
like North America as far as fuel availability is concerned.
Petrol is common and you may have to look for diesel.  What is
the situation in Australia???

Here are my current top choices for an engine transplant:

- 292 GM six cylinder engine coupled to Borg Warner t-18
   transmission & LR transfer case

- 302 Ford V8 engine coupled to Borg Warner t-18
   transmission & LR transfer case

- 200 tdi, hotrodded, coupled to newer LR 5 speed transmission

- LD28 Nissan six cylinder diesel with intercooled turbocharger
   coupled to a Nissan 5 speed truck transmission & LR transfer case

The Borg Warner t-18 transmission is a heavy duty light truck transmission
available with a 'granny' first gear.  These transmissions are very strong
and parts are easy to get in the U.S.

If I go with any engine other than the 200 tdi, I will swap in a six
cylinder bulkhead and move the transfer case cross member rearwards
to the stock six cylinder position allowing me to use stock six cylinder
prop shafts.

Take care,

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:29:22 -0600
Subject: RE: Diesels Temperature

>Hi Luis,
>The maximum operating temp. for any engine should be about 210 F. When an
>engine has been worked hard the temp may rise above that when it is

stopped.
>that is usually not damaging.  Most engines run best between 180 to 190.
Since
>212 F = 100 C this range (180 to 210 F) is about 80-99 C.
>To covert from F to C subtract 32 and multiply by 5/9. To convert  from C
>engine has been worked hard the temp may rise above that when it is
to F
>Multiply by 9/5 and add 32.

Mine usually works between 65 and 85 C, which I then guess is OK. One day
while climbing a lot on-road it went up to 100 C and wanted to keep
increasing, so I stopped. I didn't loose any water, but it got me worried.

I then began analysing the problem. The engine fan was way back form the
radiator plastic cover. Seems to be that my 3.0 liter is quite shorter than
the stock 2.5.
It picked up air from all around, less the radiator housing.
I decided I needed an electric fan. I found no source for a new, generic,
off-the-shelf radiator fan, as the ones that seem to be ready available for
you people, at reasonable prices.
So to keep the trend, I went for a second hand Toy. Corolla fan, which I
attached to the end of the radiator plastic housing and connected it to a
switch.

It helps a lot on stress situations, keeping it under 100 C. But I'm not
satisfied with it. Where do you people get those 12", 14" and 16" generic
radiatror fans I hear about all the time? I think I could use a couple of
those to keep my peace of mind.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Kenner, Dixon" <Dixon.Kenner@ms.rc.x400.gc.ca>
Date: 10 Nov 1998 10:33:00 -0500
Subject: hotplugs

>There is a hole in the hot spots for combustion to spread to the
>main chamber; this is how you can see the piston?  The hot spots
>are very hard metal and if they fall apart you normally know about it.

Dale sent his first head off to a machine shop for some work and they
planed the head after they put the hotplug in (They use a small peg to
hold it in place).  At these are supposed to be an interference fit with
the block to hold them in place, these could rock just a wee bit when 
the engine ran.  In under two hundred miles, the engine was junk.  
Massive noise, huge clouds of smoke pouring out the back, little power.
Pulling the head, all four hot plugs had rotated, bounced up and down
and worn deep impressions into the block and pistons (3/8" plus 
deep I guess)  Head was badly worn too.  All junk...  Machine shop
refused to take any responsibility.  He had to get another diesel engine
(which filled the back of my Saab with nice black oil since the engine
"crate" that was made for it collapsed in seconds and had the Saab on
the bumpstops all the way back to Ottawa)

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From: Fred Dushin <fadushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:59:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines

Gee, I didn't intend this to be an all-out affront on your doormobile,
which incidentally I have seen in-the-flesh and have the utmosteth
respecteth for...which...in...whatever.  I was just making a few remarks
about safety, economy, and pollution as regards engine conversions.
Far be it from me to compare my lowly '64 Regular, which incidentally
hasn't run in over 15 years, and which sits in peices in my backyard as
we receive our first snowfall of the season.

// Please
// Can you expand on this conclusion of yours (off line if you would like)
// 
// I worked very hard to maintain the '60's Land Rover look and feel. I 
// considered this to be an important design criteria that strongly 
// infulanced how I made my conversion.  I would like your opinion on 
// specific areas where I failed.  

I don't think you failed; it's just that I just prefer originality.
This is a personal opinion, but it's grounded in something vaguely
resembling reality.  Try looking for Land Rovers these days.  They are
not easy to come by, particularly on this side of the US (and I know --
I just spent considerable effort finding one).  You are free to do what
you like with your rover.  Paint it lime green, as far as I'm concerned.
I'm just saying that as a LRO, my aim to keep my rig as original as I
can, and that if *I* were to look for a Land Rover, popped the hood (ok,
bonnet for you anglophiles), and saw some GM or Japanese motor in there,
I'd turn away.  Period.

When I was looking for a Rover, I saw one that had a fairly butchered
bulkhead.  It had had (I think) a Chevy 6 cylinder, but was converted
back to a 2-1/4.  What was left of the bulkhead had rivetted sheet
metal in place of the gaping hole left by the conversion.  Also, on
this one particular rig I saw, the (previous) tranny was toast due to
the conversion.  I guess I should also have been concerned about the
drivetrain, but fortunately my enthusiasm for the truck had dissolved.
As far as overloading is concerned, I'd also be concerned about stress
on the chassis.  Can't imagine the frame holding out under all that
weight, even if it was originally over-engineered.

// SO please expand your thought and let me know WHY you think my car has 
// more in common with a new SUV than a series Land Rover.  I would like to 
// know where my design failed in the look and feel dept.  I know it works 

That not what I said, or if it was, it is not what I intended.  I said
it was close *in spirit*, and I think the context in which the remark
was made stands for itself.

// If you don't mind, I would like to know how experienced you are in long 
// range LR overlanding?  For instance, during the previous 2 years how many 

What does that have to do with the price of hashish in Turkey?
(Please pardon the sarcasm, but I think the question is something of a
non-sequitur.)  If you must know, my LR experience is limited to light
farmwork, of which I do the least in the family (guilt) and offroading
more or less as a passenger (though I'm working on that...)  If you want
to get into a shouting match over who's done more rovering between the
two of us, be my guest.  I can't argue there, though I suppose I could
lie through my teeth.

Why do I get the impression the conversion crowd is hyper defensive
about their modifications?  Have I been away from this list too long?

Fred, "Oliver" -- '64 Regular

--
Fred Dushin                      mailto:fadushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu
PGP public key available at      http://blackcat.cat.syr.edu/~fadushin/pgp

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From: "Wilson, Scott" <Scott.Wilson@viacom.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:09:26 -0500
Subject: a favor from the group(s)....

Well, I have to ask for a favor... I am going to be in England and Paris
for about four weeks from Nov 23rd to Dec 23rd. I live in Brookyln,
NY, and park my series truck in the streets here which requires me
to move it about twice a week... I would just pay to park it for the
duration of my journey, but when I get back on Dec 23rd, I have to 
drive to Mississippi. If there is anyone in the Connecticuit, NY, or
NJ area that wouldn't mind having an extra toy for a few weeks, I'd
love to leave it in your hands... it runs well, and shouldn't be much
trouble... the least I need is someone who might be able to drive it
a little about once a week... but If I left it with you, whatever... as long
as I didn't have to replace a  =:)

so anyway... thanks to anyone in advance... I have to warn you... 
you will have another three grease spots in your driveway...
=:)

-Scott Wilson

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:23:18 -0400
Subject: Re: a favor from the group(s)....

Wilson, Scott wrote:
> Well, I have to ask for a favor... I am going to be in England and Paris
> for about four weeks from Nov 23rd to Dec 23rd. I live in Brookyln,
> NY, and park my series truck in the streets here which requires me
> to move it about twice a week... I would just pay to park it for the
> duration of my journey, but when I get back on Dec 23rd, I have to
> drive to Mississippi. If there is anyone in the Connecticuit, NY, or
> NJ area that wouldn't mind having an extra toy for a few weeks, I'd
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
> so anyway... thanks to anyone in advance... I have to warn you...
> you will have another three grease spots in your driveway...
Scott if you would like to start your European odessy from Halifax
airport there is lots of space here and you Rover won't be lonely.Oil
spots will merge into the background. You would then have an extra
journey segment to brag about plus Nova Scotia gets another out of
season  tourist!
     John ans Muddy

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From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:31:50 -0600
Subject: Re: Transplants (engines)

Hi All,
  I have been reading with interest all of the email about transplanting
differant engines in to series LR's.  I have played with this idea as
well.  It alway strock me as odd that 6 cyl from other 4X4's which
should have provem power curve & history.   I have never heard of
adaptors for jeep(evil) 3.0  6cyl to LR trans or the Toyota 6 to LR.
Chevy uses there same engine in everything they build so how can it have
at best power curve for our 4x4 applications?   Ford does the same
thing.  Using these engines seems to be using raw HP to force the power
curve.
  Personally I like the Chevy engines but other then Scotty's
adaptor.there seem to be few adaptor kits available.  I would like to
find a way to use the chevy 4 speed with the low low first gear with the
LR transfer case.  Anyone know how to contact the guy that builds them
or any information about them.

Regards,
   Rob Davis_Chicago

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 08:44:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Pop Tops

>>and fiberglass pop up roof for the ability to pack stuff more densly so 
>TeriAnn,
;>was wondering where you aquired your pop top?

I purchased a complete Dormobile conversion kit that had been removed 
from a RHD '67 Dormobile that had been total destroyed in an accident.  
The car had evidently gon over on its side and slid top first into 
soething hard enough to 'V' bend the left side of the top.

The roof had to be completely rebuilt.

There is a NEW company, not to be confused with Martin Walters in the UK 
that claims to be making new Dormobile tops.  I understand that they 
recently completed a full new Dormobile conversion on a D110.  The 
company is called Dormobile Ltd.  If you look on my web site under 
companys that modify LRs for expedition you will find complete contact 
info.

I really like the top.  When it is up it gives me over seven feet of head 
space so the small rear interior seems more open.  Open it gives me two 
large picture widows I can look out of when in bed.  It gives me two beds 
that do not take up normal interior space.  It gives me  a roof vent.

I have had to top up on gayle force winds, heavy rain, hail and snow 
without adverse effects.

On the negative side it has no insulating properties.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: Casey McMullen <st93wxta@drexel.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:50:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: a favor from the group(s)....

Scott,
I am in Newtown PA, which is right accross the river from Trenton and 
would be happy to Rover-sit.  I'd love to shock the neighbors with two
SIII's next to each other.  I don't have covered parking but there's
plenty of space in our lot.  Meet half way?

let me know,
Casey McMullen
H:(215)579-9088 
W:(215)860-7500x284
casey@drexel.edu

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:07:13 -0600
Subject: Past messages

I have collected to this exact moment, (once again), 5100 LRO list messages.
What should I do with them? Just what I have done in the past (Dump them!)?
I tried once to find something in the archives with no luck, knowing exactly
that it was there.
Maybe it was a transitional phase, but the end result was 0, zero, nada.
Or maybe it is just a matter of asking the questions once again even if they
had been already discused all over.

If this is a very stupid question, just ignore it. I'm trying to work on the
bidding process documents for a project in Barbados, another one in El
Salvador and other one here in CR, all at the same time, while reading the
list messages and trying to clear some space on C: and maybe I'm not making
much sense.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: slade@DreamLab.cc (Michael Slade)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:15:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: To convert or not convert (was:Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines)

Fred wrote...

>Why do I get the impression the conversion crowd is hyper defensive
>about their modifications?

Maybe it's because the 'to-not-convert' crowd treats a conversion as
something less than gospel.  I do plan to do a conversion on my RR one day,
and as I realise the number of 'non-factory' engines were installed under
LR's blessing, the more I realise that the 'originality' factor is not
important to me.

If it's important to others then that is wonderful.  I will admit I feel a
great sense of pride when I see a Series One beautifully restored to
original condition down to the last locking washer, but I don't drive a
museum piece.  If you do drive a museum piece, then maybe it belongs in a
museum.  Mine belongs where I put it (usually into a tree or mud pit or
some such nonsense).

The notion that LR's are 'rare' is somewhat of a farce as far as I'm
concerned as well.  It seems that I'm able to see as many in one day as I'd
ever like to.  (and I'm talking pre-1970 here)

As a matter of fact, I'm already planning my trial machine which will be a
Series One with a (insert gasp here) Japanese or Mercedes diesel engine in
it.  How absurd right?  It'll be a hybrid allright, but whose truck isn't?

Let it rest.

Michael Slade
Portland, Oregon
www.DreamLab.cc

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From: "Alain-Jean PARES" <InfoDyne@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:09:04 +0100
Subject: Re: a favor from the group(s)....

>Well, I have to ask for a favor... I am going to be in England and Paris

Sorry for this, I'll can't help you, but as you're coming to Paris, may be
we will have a chance to meet...
Mail me if you want.

Alain-Jean PARES
Fontainebleau, FRANCE <- spot it ! (I'm 45km south Paris)

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From: "Lara, David P (Engineering)" <LARADAVI@Mattel.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:33:25 -0800
Subject: A frame for sale 

Discovery A frame black, brand new never used $280.00 + shipping.  

laradavi@mattel.com

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 09:56:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines

>Gee, I didn't intend this to be an all-out affront on your doormobile,

Fred, I do apologize for coming on over harshly.  I guess I have become 
too hypersensitive to people's comments and should take a couple of deep 
breaths.

I mainly came unglued because of your statement that my car's spirit had 
more in common with the new SUVs than series Land Rovers.  It just 
happens that I tried very hard to keep the spirit of the car '60s Land 
Rover expedition.  I think of the new SUVs as completely lacking in 
spirit.  To me they are cars designed to take people to the ski resorts 
and to shopping malls.  I have no idea of how you came to that conclusion 
and would like to know what criteria you used to make that decision.  
Obviously I'm overly defensive of my design work and my car and I tend to 
analyze things to death and beyond

I did not ask about your LR trip experience to see who could urinate 
higher on the wall.  I wanted to find out how to weigh some of your 
comments.   It has been my experience that people who are experienced 
with something can have more consistent valuable insights into that 
thing. Like I said, I analyze things to death and beyond.  I reduce most 
things to data and weigh them for validity then stir them up in a fit of 
passion.

You are entitled to your opinions and I should not attack you for 
expressing them.  I apologize for that.  But for better or worse I will 
always be looking for additional data points and I am not very good at 
wording things so that they do not seem like picking when I'm just after 
additional information.

Sorry

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:57:05 EST
Subject: Re: hotplugs

I've thought about replacing the hotplugs in my cylinder head (I have to
remove it to install new intake valvs, guides for all, and hotplugs - if
they're bad), but I've heard two horror stories too many! Maybe I'll replace
them ONLY if they're bad (they can cause the diesel to blow oil like crazy if
the pegs inside them are broken off - instant smoke screen!)

My diesel is blowing oil, and the pistons/rings/bores looked great last time I
had the head off (replaced the valve stem seals, which didn't do anything for
it), so off it comes again, for more new parts.

Charles

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From: MARCINKO3@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:02:13 EST
Subject: Re: Puka

No that's Harvey. 

Steve 

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:10:02 EST
Subject: Re: Mud and more Mud

Luis'
You The MAN!
Zack

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:18:00 EST
Subject: Re: Idiot can't troubleshoot

In a message dated 11/10/98 7:16:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Jpslotus27@aol.com writes:

<< <  My SIIa, 2.25 petrol, has developed a surging/misfire type of problem >>
    Sounds like a fuel problem to me.  You changed to fuel filter already >>
Perhaps you have a POD problem, I say because of the alternator swing from +
to - full reading,  I'd try defeating the alternator by removing the field
wire and attempting to duplicate the failure without using the charging
system, running completely on battery.  if the Problem does not resurface,
you'd be easily isolating the problem.

Zack Arbios

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:09:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Expedition Rovers

Henry,

Per your remarks regarding Mexico and Central Am. travel...Why not get involved
in some of this relief opperation!

Henry Stinson wrote:

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From: Fred Dushin <fadushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:39:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: My new rig (was: Santanna...)

No need to apologize.  I have been the recipient (and giver) of fire
over the 'net for far less. (Try Macintosh/Linux evangelism on for size!)

// I wanted to find out how to weigh some of your 
// comments.

Understood.  All I have to say that as a buyer I was discouraged when I
saw modifications to Rovers.  From the sounds of it, you are never going
to part with yours, so you probably don't have to worry about concerns
like mine, and my suspicion, from what I read on this list, is that I am
clearly in the minority (so others thinking of selling needn't worry,
either).

and Michael Slade wrote:

// The notion that LR's are 'rare' is somewhat of a farce as far as I'm
// concerned as well.  It seems that I'm able to see as many in one day as I'd
// ever like to.  (and I'm talking pre-1970 here)

Maybe where *you* live.  When I was living in Portland I was amazed by the
ages of cars there, despite the rain.  On the other hand, series rovers
are few and far between on the east coast, or at least the northeast.
I know of 4 in Syracuse, none of which (including mine) are on the road.
(Granted, it *is* Syracuse, NY) In birding parlance, would you accept
'uncommon'?

--
With that said, let me introduce my Rover to the list.  Apologies to
anyone who reads this list and who's Rovers I might have inquired about,
but I recently found a Rover that was close and affordable.  I have
been looking off and on since last summer, though in more earnest in
August and September.  I spoke with many helpful and encouraging owners
willing to sell, but the logistics of travelling to even look at a Rover
were becoming more and more prohibitive as the weather started to turn.
Finally, I decided to inquire around locally, by word of mouth, and found,
not 10 miles away, a 1964 IIA, with a tailgate and taillid.  It had been
in a barn since '83, when the original owner of the thing passed away.

Since I got it, I have removed the floors, seatbox, and wings, have
completely redone the hydraulics (including new wheel cylinders, new lines
all around, rebuilt cylinders), replaced hub seals and races, changed all
the fluids, and am now waiting for exhaust parts.  Oh, I'll also do some
work on fuel delivery, as the present gas in the tank has gone back to
crude.  The Rover runs, though since it did not have brakes when I bought
it, I didn't drive it more than a few yards (1st gear, high and low).
Since I do not have any garage space and since we, in normal years, get
around 120" snow, I'll likely not get a lot of major mechanicals done
after mid-December, but I plan to at least sort out the electricals
over the winter and then attack the frame and footwells this Spring.
(It suffers rather badly from the ravages of Central New York winters --
they don't call Syracuse the "Salt City" for nothin').  Haven't yet
decided on *how* I'll do the frame, ie, whether I'll replace it.
I think I have 1 straight body panel.  (front part of passenger wing).
Everything else is...kinked.  It's definitely a project, but that's a good
part of why I got it.  It is also very close to its original condition,
which, again, is why I got it.

-Fred
"Oliver" '64 Regular
"The Red Baron" '73 2002
"The Company Car" (another, er, BMW...)

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From: "Jason B. Carroll" <carrollj@up.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:39:36 -0800
Subject: Re: Transplants (engines)

The man for professional transplants is Timm Cooper at 541-535-3685. He has
done a ton, and they work well. My rig is a 1969 IIa w/ a Chevy V8 283, rear
Salisbury axle, standard Land Rover Transfer Case, and the NP (Chevy) four
speed manual transmission with the granny first gear. It has *awesome* low
gearing, and you don't know what you have missed until you have driven it.
It's so nice to idle down steep drops without using the brakes, and the
control is critical. Can't say enough good things about Timm--he's
brilliant.  

--Jason

----------
>From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
>To: lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject: Re: Transplants (engines)
>Date: Tue, Nov 10, 1998, 8:31 AM

>  Personally I like the Chevy engines but other then Scotty's
>adaptor.there seem to be few adaptor kits available.  I would like to
>find a way to use the chevy 4 speed with the low low first gear with the
>LR transfer case.  Anyone know how to contact the guy that builds them
>or any information about them.

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:57:10 -0500
Subject: 200 tdi tuning

Teri Ann : - To increase the power of a 200 tdi the boost pressure can be
increased and there is a company making a larger intercooler which cools the
charge more and thus denser air is burned. Larger turbos are also an option
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:05:16 -0500
Subject: TWA

Zack writes >  Just don't piss TWA off and you'll be OK.
 Does  Delta or AA fly on your side ?
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:25:19 -0500
Subject: Diesel head

Marc writes   I looked into the Haynes of the 110 diesel. And there's a
clear picture 
of the hot spot at the bottom of the head. And clearly to see is where 
the cylinder-circle is. Is going halfway over the hot spot.
So I think the hot spot can't drop onto the cylinder, as it gets stuk 
between the block and the head?

 It is true that the hot spot is trapped between the head and the block,
slightly less than 50% overlap. The hot  spots are supposed to be slightly
proud of the head surface ( until the head is skimmed ) 
 The failure mode is as follows, the hot spot is loose, it moves up and down
slightly  and beats the head gasket to bits, thus creating more space to
move up and down more, it then starts to beat the top of the block and
creates more space, which means that it moves further and beats it harder,
eventually the hot spot can be struck by the piston at top dead center. as
the clearance increases the hot spot can eventually fall into the combustion
chamber and wreck the engine even further. A rtelatively common problem with
LR diesels.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Jpslotus27@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:51:09 EST
Subject: Re:  To convert or not convert (was:Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines)

In a message dated 11/10/98 12:17:29 PM, you wrote:

<<As a matter of fact, I'm already planning my trial machine which will be a
Series One with a (insert gasp here) Japanese or Mercedes diesel engine in
it.  How absurd right?  It'll be a hybrid allright, but whose truck isn't?

Let it rest.>>

   I agree with Michael.  I like the original series vehicles, too.  However,
when I see a Land Rover ( or most any other vehicle, for that matter) I see
ways that it can be improved.  I drive my SIII mostly stock because I like the
"feel" of it, not because it's such a rare or valuable vehicle.  After all,
the object of our desire  happens to be a copy of a 1940's jeep!
    What I mean to say is that it's all in the excecution.  We have all seen
the "modified" Jeeps and others which look like absolute death traps.  But to
me, a well engineered modification is much more fun to look at and use than a
poorly designed original piece.

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From: TBache9248@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:50:54 EST
Subject: SEMA News

Hi All,
In case you already don't know, check out www.4x4review.com/sema/warn1/asp
Supposedly a coil-over kit for J**p that will allow a YJ to ramp at 1200RTI
www.4x4review.com/sema/ramsey1.asp shows the latest from ramsey winch3+ hp!
.../sema/gearless1.asp has the info on a new gearless locker from TracTech
There is also a kit out now to convert a leafer J**p to coils, think about
updating a Series L-R with the same tech.
Tom Bache

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From: Jpslotus27@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:00:14 EST
Subject: Re:  Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines (TA's Rover)

   TerriAnn's Rover is a perfect example, in my opinion, of how to do it.  You
may not agree with all the added weight or the need for some of her add-ons,
but when I look at pictures of it, I am amazed by the simple elegance of her
designs.  It is simply a beautiful vehicle that has obviously had hours of
thought poured into it.  Example: Having different keys for the water and fuel
tanks to avoid goofing up when tired.  Simple.  Effective.  
    For all the discussion about keeping things original, I would love The
Green Rover if it had squirrels under the hood for power.

Enzo 

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:16:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Unsubbing for a while...

Darn it. And just as  I was going to tell about the 101 saga.

> Going off the list for a while, some erratic travel and work schedules means I
> may not be able to read & clear the mailbox...

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:24:57 -0800
Subject: Heaters, pictures anyone?

    I don't know what difference there really is between Kodiak and
Smiths heaters, I have never tried a Smiths.  I personally find the
Kodiak totally unacceptable.  I live in Canada, but the temperature
hasn't gone below -15 C yet.  Will I be in my parka the rest of the
winter?  I would love to see any posted pictures of different heater
set-ups.  Maybe there is something done slightly different on my rig
than on most, who knows.  Anyone have any ideas?

Kirk Hillman

--
"Faith without works is dead."

Maranatha, selah.

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From: hstin@cts.com (Henry Stinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:31:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Expedition/Relief trip

Hello,
                In response to joining the Aid trip......

        The Aid trip sounds interesting but I don't really see its merits.
The money I would burn up in gas and other travel expenses would go much
further donated to one of the relief agencies.  I think if one really wanted
to help this is where you could help the most.  
        First off, if I drove a Unimog or other high payload type vehicle
filled with food, blankets, medical supplies etc. one may be of some use.
To drive my SWB with fuel and camping gear would leave little space for aid
items.  From what I've read, aircraft is the only effective means right now
anyways given the state of rivers etc.  In short, donating the money would
go a lot further.   
        As far as helping open roads etc. I would be surprised if private
individuals in a convoy of 4X4's could even get through the border.  From
what I've seen on the news the army corp of engineers is working on road
repair.  I suspect you'd be told that the last thing the various aid
organizations/rescue forces needed was to rescue a group of well intentioned
Rover owners trapped in a mud slide.
        If the situation wasn't so dire I could perhaps in good conscience
drive down their, tour the area, and think of it as an "aid expedition."  It
would have to be for a hell of a lot longer then two weeks though and I'd
have to be driving a rig capable of much higher payloads then my SWB or have
some expertise I could offer.....  Just my opinion. 

                                                        Henry Stinson
                                                        '73 SWB SHED   

                                

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:37:49 -0800
Subject: RE: Heaters, pictures anyone?

There is a picture of my early Kodiak heater on my page at:

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/

Go to the gallery.

Paul in Victoria.

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:40:23 EST
Subject: Re: TWA

In a message dated 11/10/98 2:05:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
wleacock@pipeline.com writes:

<< Zack writes >  Just don't piss TWA off and you'll be OK. >>
Ok, so I'm dislexic,  TAW

Zack

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:06:29 -0500
Subject: Re: 200 tdi tuning

Bill wrote
>Teri Ann : - To increase the power of a 200 tdi the boost pressure can be
>increased and there is a company making a larger intercooler which cools the
>charge more and thus denser air is burned. 

Any info available on who produces this gear, and on what sort of gain it
provides? I'm always open to hear about new improvements. 

Quite apart from that may have to offer, it is common to find faults
turning up with "better" stuff. Under the ex-Camel 110 during my course in
the UK I saw a (welded) crack along the rear axle attributed to the stress
transmitted through the polyurethane bushes. I got a detailed rundown on
which bushes should be left as OEM rubber  units when doing a p/u
conversion. A complete change does firm up the handling on the road, as
advertised, but it has insufficient give for some components off road. 

This may be why the main producer has just announced a blue "softer" p/u bush.

The second item was the  Zeus gear conversion that I had intended to do.
They cranked one up and it is d***n noisy and d****n expensive. It would
make my 300Tdi as noisy as the 200 . A belt is 25GBP. The best route I know
is to change it at whatever interval you want. 

So - my final word about the Tdi - go for the 300
Allan

Allan Smith
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute (CANARI)
Vieux Fort, St. Lucia, West Indies. Tel. + 758 454 6060  Fax. + 758 454 5188

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:08:25 -0700
Subject: Re:  Re: Santanna 6 cyl engines (TA's Rover)

>   TerriAnn's Rover is a perfect example, in my opinion, of how to do it.
>I would love The Green Rover if it had squirrels under the hood for power.
>Enzo
It does. That's what all the grumbling is about.....

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: chrisste@mail.clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:22:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Zenith 36 IVE

Hi all,

We just rebuilt my son's carb on his SIII. We noticed that the slow running
jet was missing from the unit. Is this necessary? Also, the solenoid cut
off valve hole is stripped. Any ideas on what size Helicoil we'll need or,
better yet, what happens if the solenoid is eliminated. I suspect we'll
have some run-on.

Chris Stevens
1969 Series IIA 88"

Zack Stevens
1972 Series III 88"

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From: chrisste@mail.clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:29:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: British Bulldog

Curious...anyone have any problems getting merchandise from these folks or
is my case unique. Don't want to get into a discussion on the list. Please
e-mail me directly.

Chris Stevens

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From: "Jeff and Chris Jackson" <jcjcj88@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:16:03 -0800
Subject: A favor from the group(s)

Scott:

   You can leave it at my place in CT if you'd like. The good news is that
I'm a mile from the train to Penn Station (if you need a way back), the bad
news is that I'm in Waterford, which is about 90 miles from NYC.  Email or
call (860 444-6831) if you need directions.   I promise to drive it once per
day, er, week.

BTW:  If you're who I think you are, I'm the guy who helped get your truck
restarted after the mud wallow in New Hampshire last month.  Green SIII 88
hardtop, right?

Jeff

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:28:18 EST
Subject: Re: Idiot can't troubleshoot

In a message dated 98-11-10 02:22:18 EST, you write:

<< The misbehaviour usually starts as a
 "surging" when applying full throttle, irrespective of gradient, and
 then deteriorates to a kangaroo like hop until you lighten up on the
 throttle.
 >>
Sounds as if the engine is losing vacuum when the throttle opens. Or it could
be a weak accelerator pump. I doubt that the charging system would have
anything to do with this although I suppose you could have a loose wire on the
feed for your ignition circuit.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM 

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 21:30:59 -0800
Subject: Re: TWA

><< Zack writes >  Just don't piss TWA off and you'll be OK. >>
>Ok, so I'm dislexic,  TAW
;
OK I'll bite, whats a TAW?

TeriAnn Wakeman                       The Green Rover, rebuilt and
Santa Cruz, California                and maintained using parts from
twakeman@cruzers.com                  British Pacific 800-554-4133
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman      

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:44:56 EST
Subject: Re: Diesels Temperature

In a message dated 98-11-10 05:11:46 EST, you write:

<< So this should mean that I could use the 92 C termostate I recently bought
 (to give better heat in the car during the Swedish winter) wothout worrying
 in my 2.25L diesel? I think the original is something like 73 C.
  >>
Calculating on all my fingers and toes that appears to be 196 F. Might be a
little high. I run a 180 F t-stat in my 2.25 petrol year round. I tried a 190
in it and that was a little too much.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 01:08:47 EST
Subject: Re: Diesels Temperature

In a message dated 98-11-10 10:34:36 EST, you write:

 It helps a lot on stress situations, keeping it under 100 C. But I'm not
 satisfied with it. Where do you people get those 12", 14" and 16" generic
 radiatror fans I hear about all the time? I think I could use a couple of
 those to keep my peace of mind.
 
 >>
I got mine at Pep Boys Luis. I'm sure there is one on every street corner down
there. Actually you should be able to find them at any auto parts store.

Bill lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: Vince Sabio <vince@humournet.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 01:51:27 -0500
Subject: Re: TWA

** Sometime around 0:30 -0500 11/11/98, TeriAnn Wakeman said:

+><< Zack writes >  Just don't piss TWA off and you'll be OK. >>
+>Ok, so I'm dislexic,  TAW
+;
+OK I'll bite, whats a TAW?
+
+TeriAnn Wakeman                       The Green Rover, rebuilt and

Beats me -- but my guess is that it owns a couple of color-coordinated
Rovers ...

;-)

Vince Sabio            Boy & His Sabre: <http://www.insane.net/tsc/Vince/>
vince@humournet.com            Stop Internet Spam! <http://www.cauce.org/>

   Vince's Interior Decorating Tip #37 (collect the whole series!):
       "If it's not spaghetti, it doesn't belong on the wall."

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:00:06 EST
Subject: Re: TWA

In a message dated 98-11-11 01:52:38 EST, you write:

<< ;
 +OK I'll bite, whats a TAW?
 +
 +TeriAnn Wakeman                       The Green Rover, rebuilt and
 
 >>
Ummmm... OK guys who's going to tell her?

Bill Lawrence

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From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:20:45 +0200
Subject: Re: 200tdi hot rodding?

>It is my understanding that the 300 has an electronic injection
>system??????

My (2-year-old) 110 has a 300 Tdi engine with mechanical injection

	paul

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From: Marc Rengers <mr@b4m.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:28:40 +0200
Subject: Re: Smashed heaterplug by cylinder ?? more info

>I don't think the car will be driveable until you put the head back on, 
>unless you count the starter motor!
>Make sure you have a good torque wrench and remember to re-
>torque the head bolts and do the tappets after 1000km or so (the 
>distance depends on your persuasion...) 

Thanks for the info...

I ordered a complete gasket and oilseal kit for the engine and hotspots.

So I will have a nice weekend afterall, because I can now also get rid of 
all those black spots on the driveway. (Well most of them anyway)

And I meant by monday, yes. And no not the startermotor as the battery 
isn't that good no more (another grab in my wallet, which is very dusty 
at the moment). 

Future no-boring-weekend-events: gearbox, propshafts, front and rearaxle.
Already been done (also by prev. owner): brakes and springs.

Thanks for all the info! I'm almost 3 years on the list, but since I have 
an 88 back again it's very much worth it!

Ok here's a list of the cars: I had/have

'77 SIII 88 petrol hardtop / softtop  (SOLD !! So stupid to do, but I did)

'87 110 StaWag diesel 2.5 -> rebuild to 110 hardtop 300 TDi ( '87 and 
'95) (also SOLD, to much luxury and running all the time, which meant 
boring weekends)

'67 SII ex defense 109 pickup (trying to get reg. number, but some prev. 
owner has the papers, and I can't track him down. I bought it from a 
farmer who bought it from a farmer and that farmer bought it from......)

'78 SIII 88 diesel pickup (have it now for three weeks and had more fun 
with it than with the 110 already :-) )

Oh and the cracks in the hotspot must not exceed 8 mm.... pretty long 
isn't it?

Bye for now! (can't wait for the weekend.........)

Marc Rengers
Westeremden, Holland
mr@b4m.com
0596-551334 (home)
050-3666761 (work)
06-51550521 (GSM)
06-59111461 (pager)
http://www.minerva.fk.hanze.nl/landrover/index.html

           --_                                --_         
      _____|__\___                    ________|__\___     
      | _  |   |_ |}                  |  _    |   |_ |}   
      "(_)"""""(_)"                   ""(_)"""""""(_)"
 1978 SIII 88" 2.25 diesel       1968  109"  SIIa 2.25 petrol
     reg. 47-DB-13                     reg. unknown    
      marine blue                 green (15 layers of paint)

also subscribed to LAND ROVER Owner International (great magazine)

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From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:41:45 +0200
Subject: Petrol vs Diesel (availability)

>  I have been working under the notion that
>in everyplace except North America, diesel is the more common less
>expensive fuel.  I just learned that South Africa is more
>like North America as far as fuel availability is concerned.
>Petrol is common and you may have to look for diesel.  What is
>the situation in Australia???

 Filling stations in small towns and on highways (in both SA and Oz) tend
to have both (for obvious reasons).  It's only the big-city-suburb filling
stations that may not have diesel.  In that case, you'll get diesel a few
kilometers down the road.

Diesel is cheaper than petrol in SA, more expensive than unleaded in Oz
(but not by much in either place).

Across the Limpopo, the situation changes.  Again, not all filling stations
have diesel, but those that do are more likely to have fuel (it's not
uncommon to find dry petrol bowsers in Zambia, for instance).  There will
probably be fuel of both types available within a few tens of kilometers.
Diesel is usually *MUCH* cheaper, and unleaded is usually unobtainable.

I much prefer diesel -- engines are far easier to work on (none of this
silly carburettor and ignition stuff); the fuel is less volatile and less
flammable; they tend to have more torque and at a lower rev range;  fule
consumption is markedly lower.

My series III pickup (petrol) sprang a leak in the fuel supply hose, and
now needs a new distributor and coil, air cleaner and water hoses, brake
and clutch master cylinder overhauls plus clutch flex hose as well as a
total engine-compartment rewiring job.  Oh, the fire extinguisher needs to
be recharged as well.  When one of the injector pipes in my old sIII diesel
cracked, I just lost power (and got a face full of diesel when I opened the
bonnet with the engine running.  No fires, no crises, just needed a new
pipe.

I would vote *very* strongly for a 300Tdi motor -- the one in my 110 is a
refined beastie, and has yet to hiccough.  Whatever you choose, go for a
diesel.  Spares availablility is not the end of the world -- just carry the
relevant bits if you go abroad (recon injectors, replacement injector
pipes, oil and fuel filters [*lots* of these], and a few other vitals).
The rest can always be hacked up somehow.

	paul

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:10:31 +0200
Subject: Re: Smashed heaterplug by cylinder ?? more info

> So I will have a nice weekend afterall, because I can now also get rid of
> all those black spots on the driveway. (Well most of them anyway)

Hmmmm....  I find as soon as I plug one leak the next begins!

> Oh and the cracks in the hotspot must not exceed 8 mm.... 
pretty long isn't it?

Yes; I remember being surprised I just couldn't remember the figure.

> Bye for now! (can't wait for the weekend.........)

Good luck, Marc.

All the best,

Andy

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