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From: "William S. Kowalski" <70252.1204@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:03:31 -0400
Subject: Breathers--The final solution??

Maybe the final solution to the leaking seal problem on all the gearbox,
differentials, etc. is to mearly connect a full time 12 VDC vacuum pump to
all those areas. Since some will have more air leak than others you may
have to connect each item to the vacuum pump through a sequence operated
solenoid valve. For connections, use the existing vent on the top of each
gearbox to prevent sucking up the lubricant. Maybe you could just connect
all those points to the intake manifold vacuum connection but I see other
problems developing in an already problem prone area.

So what do you think???

Bill Kowalski
Hinsdale, Illinois, USA

'67 LR IIA, 109"
'63 Austin-Healey "BJ-7"
'53 RR Bentley "R"
(They all leak oil)
(If they don't leak, they are out of oil!)

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From: "Huub Pennings" <hps@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:17:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Breathers--The final solution??

Bill thinks,

"Maybe the final solution to the leaking seal problem on all the 
gearbox, differentials, etc. is to mearly connect a full time 12 VDC 
vacuum pump to all those areas. Since some will have more air leak 
than others you may have to connect each item to the vacuum pump 
through a sequence operated solenoid valve. For connections, use the 
existing vent on the top of each gearbox to prevent sucking up the 
lubricant.

So you may start sucking crud in through the leaky seals........
and end up with a mud filled gearbox, good for a low centre of 
gravity though.........

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: "Stude, Herman L." <hermans@krts.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:39:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Parts for Koenigs.......

Peter & Julie Rosvall wrote:
> Does any one know of source to get parts for the Koenig PTO winch?

First of all what broke, mine jumps out of gear sometimes.  I have to
hold the clutch in the forward drive position, it stays fine in reverse?

Try Howard Raschke at Mateco 713-692-3888 (a Koenig distributor who
seemed very well informed when I spoke with him a while back).  I'm told
that the clutch is made by Rockford and that they are still available
somewhere.

Let us know what you find out, please.

Herman
SIII 88 w/ Koenig winch and Fairey O/D

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From: "Tom Rowe/CDR" <trowe@ibm.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:51:38 +0100
Subject: Mark Freeman?

Mark,
Can you e-mail me? The address I have doesn't seem to be good. I need
to get some info from you.

Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Paul G <pgussack@utk.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:12:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Terry Gilliam

Thank you Art, You are quite right it must have been all that Stilton i
had at the Cheese shop that made me get that all fudged up. 

Mum! Dad! don't touch it it's pure evil! 

Paul G
SIII SWB "Grendal"

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:26:55 -0400
Subject: double crank pulley wanted

Looking for an ex-mil, non scored, double crankshaft pulley for 2.25L. 
Needed for hydraulic system installation.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:27:12 EDT
Subject: Re: Breathers--The final solution??

In a message dated 10/13/98 7:05:52 AM SA Pacific Standard Time,
70252.1204@compuserve.com writes:

<< Maybe the final solution to the leaking seal problem on all the gearbox,
 differentials, etc. is to mearly connect a full time 12 VDC vacuum pump to
 all those areas. Since some will have more air leak than others you may
 have to connect each item to the vacuum pump through a sequence operated
 solenoid valve. For connections, use the existing vent on the top of each
 gearbox to prevent sucking up the lubricant. Maybe you could just connect
 all those points to the intake manifold vacuum connection but I see other
 problems developing in an already problem prone area.
 
 So what do you think??? >>

I think you want a drive train full of mud and water. Just run the three
breathers into the air cleaner or some other point on the intake.

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:01:55 EDT
Subject: Re: break in oil

On the Turner I just installed, they included two five liter bottles of "Run
In" oil.  Not sure weight or detergent qualities.  Know it did have a greenish
tint to it.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:27:56 -0500
Subject: RE: Car Talk

>I listen
>to "CarTalk" on NPR every week (you know the show with the two brothers
>from Boston?).  A guy called the other day from Florida and said he was
>going to be returning to his house in Costa Rica where his Isuzu Trooper
>was having problems.  Knowing that parts were not as easy to come by down
>there, he wanted to make sure that he got the right parts before going
>down.  They talked for a while about other cars people had down there and
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
>with him that would definitely take care of his problems:  an early 70's
>Land Rover.

Well, I have to set the record straight. This definitly is not true. There
are a lot of LR mechanics since it must be a good business, having all this
series trucks around, BUT the vast majority of mechanics wont even touch a
LR, not because they cant deal with it, but because they are too rough and
knuckle killers. They generaly prefer working on flimsy hondas and toyotas
and dealing with computers rather than busting their "pencil holders" to get
a nut off a LR.
Maybe this guy's house is located at some beach or remote area, where the
only mechanic HAS to deal with LR's daily. That could be the case.
About the other matter, Isuzu's parts, that isn't true either. There are at
least 15-20 places to find new original Isuzu parts, and Troopers are a
plague here. There are also a similar number of places where you could find
used Isuzu parts.
This is just a clear example of how un-informative media can be.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 08:35:04 -0700
Subject: Re: double crank pulley wanted

>Looking for an ex-mil, non scored, double crankshaft pulley for 2.25L. 
>Needed for hydraulic system installation.
;
British Pacific has a few military 2-1/4L petrol engines sitting for 
parts.  Some or all were 24V with the double belt system.

If you cantact them they may have a double pully to sell

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:32:55 -0500
Subject: RE: Car Talk

><< They talked for a while about other cars people had down there and
> the guy said that most of the mechanics were really most comfortable
> working on early 70's Land Rovers.  They recommended he take just one part
> with him that would definitely take care of his problems:  an early 70's
> Land Rover. >>
>Sadly I must correct this:  They actually said "Land Cruisers"

About my previuos answer, It applies the same for Land Cruisers.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:05:13 -0700
Subject: Beaver oil filler myth

In a message dated 10/9/98 2:42:40 PM SA Pacific Standard Time,
rgrant@cadvision.com writes:

<< >I would say that the Beaver is a much smoother ride than the 88 tho.
 Perhaps smoother on nice cool stable days but the thing sure bounces around
 on a hot day.  It's been a while since I flew the dear old Beaver (early
 70's) but I think it's probably a lot louder than the 88.  Like Land
Rover's
 there are still lots and lots around working for a living. >>

 >I still think the "add-oil while in flight" tube is a nifty idea that land
rover should have adopted. In LR's case, one would have had multiple fill
tubes under the center seat... oil, tranny, od, transfer case...

The "add oil while in flight" theory regarding the Beaver's oil filler is a
bit of a myth.  If you've ever taken one off, or had one come off, in
flight, it is NOT a pleasant experience.  Hot engine oil pretty much sprays
over the entire left side of whoever is sitting in the passenger seat.  Even
having the wrong gasket inside the cap (the Cessna 180 oil cap gasket is
almost the same size and sometimes gets inserted in a Beaver cap by
accident) results in oil being forced out past the cap, down the tube, and
onto the left shoe of the person in the right seat.

The location of the oil tank more or less dictated having the filler tube
where it is.  Having the filler  tube come up inside the cockpit is a
convenience in that you don't have to remove the cowl to get at it, but it
is not intended to be used to add oil during flight unless you've run out of
oil, in which case taking the cap off will not cause much of a problem as
there will be little inside to spray out.

Under normal conditions, a Pratt & Whitney R-985 can burn up to a quart of
oil an hour without your having to get concerned about it.  The Beaver has a
maximum endurance of about  5 hours with wingtip fuel, so it's doubtful that
you would need to add any oil during a flight as you would use at most only
a little over a gallon of oil during that flight.  Any oil pressure problems
in flight will most likely be caused by failed hoses, couplings, or
connections, in which case adding oil via the filler tube will be of little
help. But because of the radial's appetite for oil, it is VERY important to
check the Beaver's oil level before each and every flight.  However, taking
the cap off while the engine is running is NOT recommended, as there's a lot
of pressure built up in the tank.

C. Marin Faure...
de Havilland Beaver pilot and
Land Rover owner

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:06:34 -0700
Subject: LR 88 and the Beaver

From: Slade@dreamlab.cc (Michael Slade)

>>OK, Mike calls the LR an equivalent of the Dakota, and Peter suggests the
Huey.
>How about this:
>The 109 is more of the Dakota - definitely long-wheelbase.
>The Lightweight (being a military machine gone civvy) fits the Huey to a
tee.
>And the 88? The DeHaviland Beaver, of course....

>Having ridden in all three (both cars and aircraft), I would say he is
pretty much right on the money. I would say that the Beaver is a much
smoother ride than the 88 tho.

I have a lot of time flying Beavers (on floats, never flown one on wheels),
and I can tell you the Beaver has one habit that the Land Rover does not, or
should not if it's bolted together properly.  Because of the Beaver's slow
airspeed (110 mph on floats), short fuselage, and long wings, it tends to
wallow around in any kind of turbulence.  Not just bounce around with the up
and down-drafts but yaw from side to side.  This tendency is especially
pronounced if you're carrying fuel in the wingtip tanks.  From the pilot's
point of veiw, it's best to just let the plane find its own way with a bit
of guidance now and then to keep it going in the desired direction at more
or less the desired altitude.  Trying to correct every little wiggle and
roll is just about impossible and generally ends up aggrevating the
situation even more.  However, letting the plane "do its thing" is not
particularly nice for the passengers, particularly for the ones in the aft
row of seats.  So I'm not sure I'd say the Beaver's ride is smoother than
the Land Rovers.  Less harsh, yes, but not necessarily smoother.

C. Marin Faure
de Havilland Beaver pilot and...
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: Leger Marc-Andre <mleger@wefa.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:06:48 -0400
Subject: Drive to Canada and back

I'm off to Montreal tomorrow to pick up my '71 Land Rover... I'll be driving
back Sunday... so if you see a White D-90 pulling a '71 Lightweight SIIa,
Wave... it will be me...

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Einstein  

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:24:24 EDT
Subject: Re: Beaver oil filler myth(no LR)

In a message dated 98-10-13 12:05:56 EDT, you write:

<< Under normal conditions, a Pratt & Whitney R-985 can burn up to a quart of
 oil an hour without your having to get concerned about it >>

Very true!

When I was in jr. high/high school, I worked on Beechcraft 18's, and AT-6's,
and it's amazing how long a 985 can run past TBO! In fact, they sometimes had
even better fuel/oil consumption!

The 1340 - you could just about say the same for it.

Charles
 

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:29:18 -0500
Subject: RE: GPS as Speedo

>Luis, a recent issue of Overlander 4WD magazine (Australia) had a report of
>a1948 Series 1 driver being given a ticket by our (far north) Queensland
>(state) Highway Patrol for loitering a 100km/h zone. The Landie was
>travelling at full speed of 80km/h.
>Far North Queensland is a bit like the far south of the USA.
>Ron

This world is definetly going crazy.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:44:31 -0500
Subject: RE: Rubbers for a 2a

>The Rubber seals for a D-90 will fit. Look a hell of oa lot better and
>cost less.
>Saw them on Frank Jakos' restored Series at the Steamboat Rally-Nice
>Rover!!

I'm happy for you if D90's "rubbers" are cheaper than series. Last time I
checked with our dealer they wanted US$130 for each door's rubber seals.

Used some ACE rubber sponge self-adhesive weather-stripping and voila!:
water is left out. It doesn't look that bad either.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:53:31 -0700
Subject: D90 Rubbers

Are D-90 rubbers glued on or riveted on??   (*ouch*)

If riveted, do they line up with Series truck rivet holes??

The rainy season has finally arrived in BC...

Paul Quin
1961 SII 88 
Victoria, BC  Canada
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@rmi.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:17:23 -0600
Subject: RE: D90 Rubbers

Hi All!!

Two answers-

Luis mentioned the rubbers were $130 for each door; think Frank said
they cost him $45 a door.

Paul asked if they glued or riveted on-Glued on.

Myself-I got 25 feet of weather-stripping at Pep Boys for $25 and glued
it in-had 8 inches left after doing both doors. Only problem is that the
new is thicker than old-bit harder to shut doors!! Haven't checked the
operation in rain yet-no rain to speak of since August!!!

Along same lines-I replaced the vent seals back in May when I repainted
"Aardvark"-it's a real bugger to close the vents now; the "Gen-U-Wine"
seals seen to be thicker than the old. Not a problem during this last
summer, had the vents open 24/7. But now that it's getting cooler out,
have to have someone push in on the vents from the outside whilst I
screw the vents shut. How long does it take for the seals to "Break-in"?

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark"

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:34:20 -0400
Subject: Re: D90 Rubbers

Are D-90 rubbers glued on or riveted on??   (*ouch*)

Actually they are pressed onto the door flange by ex-dwarf tossing 
championship has-beens.

No need for glue, as it would eventually get to the installers.

For a series truck, you'd have to grind off the little bent-over lip on 
the door flange to get a good fit. The PO tried to use these on my truck 
and ended up ruining one before giving up. Otherwise they work OK.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:40 -0400
Subject: Art's vent seals...

Art wonders how long it takes for the seals to break in.

Easy...once they start to dry-rot, they get really good!

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:34:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Art's vent seals...

I had the same problem with my new gen-u-wine vent seals.  I just squeezed
them shut with help from the outside and locked them for about two months.
Now they're fine...

Paul in Victoria

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From: Casey McMullen <st93wxta@drexel.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:39:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TW - Your website, Rover question

TerriAnn,
On your website, you have a list of alternate part numbers for series 
Rovers.  It lists the following for spark plugs:
2-1/4L   NGK BP6ES
Can you tell me, is this for 7:1 or 8:1 compression or either?  I have a 
8:1 series III 88".

thanks,
Casey McMullen
casey@drexel.edu

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:53:52 -0400
Subject: Re: TW - Your website, Rover question

Re: Spark Plugs:

Take a look at the OVLR Website - it has parts listings for both.

http://www.off-road.com/OVLR
 will get you there.

I believe that the 8:1 calls for the same spark plug as a Rangie - the RN11YP4
Champion. If you want to, that's available in an NGK equivalent.

                         ajr

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From: Casey McMullen <st93wxta@drexel.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:59:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: TW - Your website, Rover question

Oops, wasn't supposed to go to the whole list, but can anyone else out 
there tell me which NGK plugs to put in my 8:1 compression 2-1/4 L sIII 
88"?  I need new plugs, and hear they are pretty good.

thanks,
Casey

According to Casey McMullen:

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:05:30 -0500
Subject: RE: D90 Rubbers

>Myself-I got 25 feet of weather-stripping at Pep Boys for $25 and glued
>it in-had 8 inches left after doing both doors. Only problem is that the
>new is thicker than old-bit harder to shut doors!! Haven't checked the
>operation in rain yet-no rain to speak of since August!!!

I only found one little incovenient with the weather-stripping: it makes a
sound like styrofoam (?) rubbing with metal. Solution: gave it a fine coat
of ... guess what... black gasket silicone thing. No more squeaquing, nor
water, at least from that source!!! Gave it a little shine too! :-}

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Wilson, Scott" <wilsons@msmail.vislab.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:36 -0500
Subject: Rims... sorry to bring it up again...

Does anyone know of the website that lists the different rims
from the Series, their widths, diams and offsets? I seem to
have misplaced the bookmark. After this weekend, I'd like to
get slightly larger wheels to get my diffs and spring mounts
off the ground a little more. I'd also like a little bit more
offset than what's available on my little 15" rims. Other than
that, I like the 15" rims, but it's hard to find anything around
32" tall for a 15" rim. (anything that I like, anyway)

I've never looked for rims before... what do you have to look
for if you have warn hubs (big hole in the middle?) and has
anyone tried the Disco steel rims or the NATO rims that
Atlantic British sells?

thanks.

 -Scott  

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:35:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Rims... sorry to bring it up again...

"Wilson, Scott" wrote:

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

Do you have any of those days where you can't motivate yourself to get your
work done?  It's been about four of them in a row now  :  (    Friday was
unproductive.  Saturday I went to see a friend of mine in Rochester about
some LR parts he was selling - It was nice to get out of Ithaca.  Sunday I
tried to get back to work, no luck.  Yesterday I went to GP area and did
some rovering and leaf - looking.  It's nice out that way.  Today I'm back
in my office getting nothing done, and not interested in getting things
done.  I think I will go play with my parts rover.  I'm going to pull the
axels diffs and props.  It's tank is still holding gasoline - what do I do
with the gas?  The next job would be to remove the tranny etc.

Bye for now - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:44:44 EDT
Subject: SII Radiator cap

Howdy all,
About to install an old SII radiator on my 109 in an effort to give it some
more cooling capacity than the SIII rad. I've got on there gives it.

The cap on the SII rad. I got is shot--doesn't hold any pressure in there at
all.  Any replacement tips--it's not the same as my SIII cap.

Thanks for any help.

Bill Rice 
64 SIIA 109SW, Mrs. Merdle.
Columbus GA

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 12:55:08 -0700
Subject: Re: TW - Your website, Rover question

>TerriAnn,
>On your website, you have a list of alternate part numbers for series 
>Rovers.  It lists the following for spark plugs:
>2-1/4L   NGK BP6ES
>Can you tell me, is this for 7:1 or 8:1 compression or either?  I have a 
>8:1 series III 88".

I have an 8:1 series III engine installed.  These are the spark plugs 
that I use.  They seem to work OK

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: slade@DreamLab.cc (Michael Slade)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

>Do you have any of those days where you can't motivate yourself to get your
>work done?  It's been about four of them in a row now  :  (    Friday was
>unproductive.  Saturday I went to see a friend of mine in Rochester about
>some LR parts he was selling - It was nice to get out of Ithaca.  Sunday I
>tried to get back to work, no luck.  Yesterday I went to GP area and did
>some rovering and leaf - looking.  It's nice out that way.  Today I'm back
>in my office getting nothing done, and not interested in getting things
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>with the gas?  The next job would be to remove the tranny etc.
>Bye for now - Peter

Next time you're bored I've got a James Bond mission for you down in New
Hyde Park.  Some 'friends' of mine have some parts I want to pick up and I
could use someone to recce the place.

Later,

Michael Slade
Portland, Oregon
www.DreamLab.cc

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From: "William S. Kowalski" <70252.1204@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:53:14 -0400
Subject: RE--SII Radiator cap

Hi Bill: Still have a cooling proble---. Did you ever make or install some
type of  a shroud around the engine's fan?

Rover and out,

Bill Kowalski
Hinsdale, Illinois

'67 LR IIA 109"
'63 Austin-Healey BJ-7
'53 RR Bentley "R"

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:25:28 -0400
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I have had a 1960 parts truck and a 1961,both 88"s,with the original =
lenses still intact.
Both vehicles had an orange bullet shaped turn signal and a shallow =
white running light (both glass Lucas)in the configuration you described =
with the indents on the chrome bezel to allow fastening to the wing with =
two screws.
Regards,
Steve Stoneham

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:50:23 -0400
Subject: Re:Rubbers for IIA
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I recently purchased some weatherstripping from Atlantic British in =
Waterloo,Quebec for a little over
$60.00 Canadian per door. I'm pleased with the results so far but will =
be better able to judge when I get the LR out of my garage and licenced =
for the road....

A.B. Canada 1-514-539-4929 ask for Cliff. Pleasant chap to deal with.
Regards,
Steve

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:48:46 EDT
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

In a message dated 10/13/98 12:26:20 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
pmk11@cornell.edu writes:

<< Do you have any of those days where you can't motivate yourself to get your
 work done?  >>

Psychologist, heal thyself!

(sorry.. couldn't resist!)

Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:15:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Rims... sorry to bring it up again...

Rovers North has a table of LR wheel sizes at:
http://www2.roversnorth.com/roversnorth/techtips/ttwheelstires.html

All LR Series steel wheels fit over locking hubs. The locking hub unit
is smaller diameter than the hub.

Regards,
David Cockey

Wilson, Scott wrote:

> Does anyone know of the website that lists the different rims
> from the Series, their widths, diams and offsets?

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From: "Dr. Russ" <rgdushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:28:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SII rad caps and Tyre Size and Rim info

Re: SII radiator caps...was once told that old Dodge Powerwagons
used the exact cap (or close enough).  Dunno what years apply
but check yer local junker (and fill me in 'cause I need one,too).

Re: Tyre size info...check:
http://www2.roversnorth.com/roversnorth/techtips/ttwheelstires.html

ta,ta, gotta run!

rd/nige

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From: "Craig & Chris Griffin" <larbec@nor.com.au>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:47:02 +1000
Subject: electrical fault in my discovery

G'day from Australia,

Can anybody give me any information regarding an electrical problem I am
having with my Discovery (94 model).

When the engine has reached operating temperature and is switched off, it
will not idle and seems to only want to run on 2 or 3 cylinders.
Electricians cannot seem to pinpoint it, niether can my local Landrover
dealer.

This is only a recent development, otherwise I have no complaints with the
Discovery.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Craig Griffin
New South Wales
Australia

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:50:38 -1000
Subject: Done a frame over?

Aloha everyone.
Was wondering, has anyone done a frame over recently and still have the old
frame lieing around and do not know what to do with it?

Ya' see the vehicle I am going to get was involved in an accident and the
right front section of frame is bent pretty bad, from the rear spring hanger
to just behind the horn needs replacing.  The rest of the thing is rock
solid.  I am wondering if anyone has a frame lying about with the front 4
feet or so in good shape.  If so would you consider hacking off just the
front 4' of right side rail?  I am thinking from the transmission xmember
forward and cut off all the xmembers and outriggers.  Then just have a
6"x4"x4' package to mail.  The vehicle in question is a 1970 S-IIa 88", but
I believe that a 109 would work for what I need.

If you think you can help, let me know how much you want for your time and
effort and where you are and I will figure the best way to ship.  I know
that the USPS will mail it for approx $60 based on the weight from the left
coast to here.
TIA
Pete

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:14:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

In a message dated 13/10/98 20:26:20 BST, you write:

 Do you have any of those days where you can't motivate yourself to get your
 work done?  It's been about four of them in a row now  :  (    Friday was
 unproductive.  Saturday I went to see a friend of mine in Rochester about
  >>

Peter.
 second day back after seven months off and I've already decided I don't like
it........

still, only another day to do and then it's off to a certain motor
manufacturers factory in Solihul :-)> followed by three days of off-roading
:-)> followed by press day at the Motor Show :-)>

I could get to like this three day week lark (sorry)

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110 CSW
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:14:15 EDT
Subject: Re: Rims... sorry to bring it up again...

In a message dated 13/10/98 19:36:53 BST, you write:

<< Disco steel rims or the NATO rims that
 Atlantic British sells? >>
Scott,
over here we have Disco steels on everything from Ser (my Son) with
freewheeling hubs, to 110 (mine).
They're dead cheap because all Discos were delivered to dealers on steels and
if they were to have alis the dealer had to fit 'em. As just about everyone
wanted posing alis there are lots of steels no-one  except those of us in the
know, want.

I've got General Grabbers 235/85s on mine. Dunno the exact height, but they
are the same as 7.50s.

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110 CSW
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

>Psychologist, heal thyself!
>(sorry.. couldn't resist!)

Gerry, oh please - I'm not one of THOSE psychologists - I study comparative
neuroanatomy, in a psychology dept.  Check out my web sites if you  really
want to know what I do when not under (here comes the LR content) the rover.

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu		Ithaca NY 14853
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:07:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

Sounds nice Frank! Please enjoy the 110 for me  (maybe I'll, someday, about
2010!).

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu		Ithaca NY 14853
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:11:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Ugghh - Another one of those days!

Michael; where is  "New Hyde Park?"
Gosh! - I've got to get to work!  Bye for now - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu		Ithaca NY 14853
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:35:33 -0600
Subject: RE SII Behive lens

Thought I'd check so here it is

1959 SII 88" SW

Front amber beehive lens is Lucas L639.  Two reliefs for the
screws.  Looking for a spare if anyone out there has one to
trade?

Mitch and the Red Dinosaur

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From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:43:10 -0600
Subject: RE Burning no. 4 valves

Thanks for all the input regarding my No. 4 valve problem.

Reached another hypothesis;  Kodiak heater water valve at
rear of head.  Recently turned heater system on (water
valve).  Starving coolant from no. 4.  All previous valves
burned during cold weather.  (I never related turning on
that valve to the problem).  Be careful.

Mitch and the Red Dinosaur

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From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:38:51 -0600
Subject: Iron Duke conversion

Got a line on three Iron Dukes.  Cross flow heads, FREE

Is Scotty still making a conversion plate?

What is the best way to contact him?

Are the engine mounts available or easy to fabricate?

Other than Rob Davis and who does this conversion?

About what will it cost?

Mitch and the Red Dinosaur
(Tired of burning valves)

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From: "Jeff and Chris Jackson" <jcjcj88@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:02:39 -0700
Subject: NGK plugs

can anyone else out
there tell me which NGK plugs to put in my 8:1 compression 2-1/4 L sIII
88"?  I need new plugs, and hear they are pretty good.thanks,Casey

BPR5ES will do it.  I have run them in an 8:1 and 7:1 head, no noticeable
difference in performance.

Jeff Jackson

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:38:08 -0400
Subject: 88 wheel cylinders

The front wheel cylinders on a swb with ten inch diameter brakes are 1.25
inches front and 1 inch rear, lwb's with 11 inch dia brakes  have 1.25 inch
front and rear.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@rmi.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:41:21 -0600
Subject: RE; Electrical fault in my Discovery

Craig from Australia asked:

When the engine has reached operating temperature and is switched off,
it
will not idle and seems to only want to run on 2 or 3 cylinders.
Electricians cannot seem to pinpoint it, neither can my local Landrover
dealer.

HUH???

When the engine is switched off it is not supposed to idle, should come
to a stop. Are the symptoms you are describing , "running-on" or
"Dieseling"?

Or do the Aussie engines have a secret device to counter effect the
Coriolis affect of the Earths rotation being different from what we have
here in the Northern hemisphere? (sorry, poor attempt at humor:-)), and
this is causing the problem?

Seriously; If it's "running-on" you are talking about, it's normally
caused by either carboned up head, timing off, or overheating. But then
with your computer controlled vehicle, who knows!!

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark"

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From: "Wise Owl Innovation Incorporated" <wiseowl@direct.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:23:19 -0700
Subject: Re: SII Radiator cap

Hi Bill this is Ray Wood at Wise Owl in Vancouver. We have the big Rad caps
in stock $8.00 + $5.00 for post.

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> From: Jarvis64@aol.com
> To: lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: SII Radiator cap
> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 12:44 PM
> Howdy all,
> About to install an old SII radiator on my 109 in an effort to give it

some
> more cooling capacity than the SIII rad. I've got on there gives it.
> The cap on the SII rad. I got is shot--doesn't hold any pressure in there
> Subject: SII Radiator cap
at

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From: "Wise Owl Innovation Incorporated" <wiseowl@direct.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:29:52 -0700
Subject: Re: RE SII Behive lens

Hi Mitch we have one you can have. Give me a call at 1-888-880-2600

Ray wood

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From: "Vel Natarajan" <vel@enteract.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:55:21 -0500
Subject: Applying Waxoyl Q's

Trying to get the chassis ready for winter.  Ordered the waxoyl, and it's
here.  Since this is all new to me...

- Do I need to remove every bit of surface rust from the chassis before
applying the waxoyl?  Or do I just use a wirebrush to remove the loose stuff
and then coat away.

- What about coating the front portion of the chassis (you know, the
rust-free portion already covered in oil.)  Will later oil-spray wash away
the waxoyl?  Is it necessary to use the waxoyl there since I have an already
coated frame?

- should I coat the fuel-tank?

- should I coat the aluminum floorboards as to cover the nuts and bolts?

My main concern is the salt spray in the winter and what it will do the the
vehicle...

Thanks.
Vel Natarajan
SWB S2A

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:07:24 EDT
Subject: Re: Applying Waxoyl Q's

In a message dated 10/13/98 8:57:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
vel@enteract.com writes:

<< Trying to get the chassis ready for winter.  Ordered the waxoyl, and it's
 here.  Since this is all new to me... >>

Me too.  Just about time to take the soft-top off.  And I guess it's too early
to start posting the daily highs in the desert but it was about 98 F /  36.7 C
today.

It's a dirty job... but someone's got to do it.

Cheers,
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ
'73 Series III Soft top "Tigger"  (daily driver until it hits 110 F / 43 C)
'64 Series IIA Dormobile "Humpty Dumpty"  (interior currently in
pieces/bulkhead 
               out... slowly making progress!!!)
'95 Disco "Great White"

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From: "Said Geoffrey at MITTS" <Geoffrey.Said@magnet.mt>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:31:15 +0100
Subject: RE:Re[2]: My diesel is letting off air

I have bought the Turbo 2.5 and also the norma aspirated 2.25.

I was told that some blowby is normal for the Turbo 2.5 but it indicated worn 
rings on the 2.25.  I have had the 2.25 for 4 years now and it always smoked a 
bit from the crank case tube.

In my opinion you will not damage the engine as the blowby is just combustion 
air 
passing by the rings and into the crankcase.

I also was wondering when it was time to change rings as my 2.25 when pressed 
manages 60mph and is not at all dead.

Thanks
Geoffrey
Malta

Todd Wilson:

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:09:49 +1000
Subject: Chassis No info?

d.h.lowe wrote:

>Ron .  I have the letter in front of me from Mr. Pagan dated April 1998.
> Perhaps there`s more of  `em than we know about.

I'll go with that.  My info was older.

Thanks, I'll amend my fax and send it tomorrow

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:08:05 +1000
Subject: Series III Gearbox Problem

Henry Stinson wrote:
> My gearbox problems persist

Stinson - what a great aviation name.  I have some good pix of Stinsons
taken over the years in Australia.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:01:02 +1000
Subject: Series Lubrication

The Becketts wrote:
> I agree!  the smell of 90 wt EP oil NEVER washes out of clothes.  I've had
> to throw away one of my favourite jackets which  from the oil.

john cranfield replied:
>You have to learn to love the smell of 90W, ... Or get a nose job
>and lose your sense of smell (That worked for me!)

I gave up smoking  2 years ago.  Now many things smell worse - especially
cigarettes.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:01:02 +1000
Subject: Series Lubrication

The Becketts wrote:
> I agree!  the smell of 90 wt EP oil NEVER washes out of clothes.  I've had
> to throw away one of my favourite jackets which  from the oil.

john cranfield replied:
>You have to learn to love the smell of 90W, ... Or get a nose job
>and lose your sense of smell (That worked for me!)

I gave up smoking  2 years ago.  Now many things smell worse - especially
cigarettes.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:09:49 +1000
Subject: Chassis No info?

d.h.lowe wrote:

>Ron .  I have the letter in front of me from Mr. Pagan dated April 1998.
> Perhaps there`s more of  `em than we know about.

I'll go with that.  My info was older.

Thanks, I'll amend my fax and send it tomorrow

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:08:05 +1000
Subject: Series III Gearbox Problem

Henry Stinson wrote:
> My gearbox problems persist

Stinson - what a great aviation name.  I have some good pix of Stinsons
taken over the years in Australia.

Ron

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From: slade@DreamLab.cc (Michael Slade)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:15:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: E-mail address for LRO?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if LRO or LRM has an e-mail address?

Thanks!

Michael Slade
Portland, Oregon
www.DreamLab.cc

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:51:52 +0000
Subject: Re: LR 88 and the Beaver

  From the pilot's
>point of veiw, it's best to just let the plane find its own way with a bit
>of guidance now and then to keep it going in the desired direction

That sounds *just* like my 88"........

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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