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From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:37:35 -0400
Subject: re: Coast to coast (almost)

Peter:

Thanks for the info.  I seem to remember that the roads in Arkansas were
pretty horrible when I moved here and drove through.  I'm also starting in
Va. Beach about 1/3 mile from the Atlantic (near Dam Neck Base).

Did the Canyon, Petrified forest and painted desert a couple years ago
during Christmas leave and will probably not be stopping there but look
foreward to driving through that area again.

Steve

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:35:24 EDT
Subject: Re: 2.25 Valves

In a message dated 10/7/98 7:51:18 PM SA Pacific Standard Time,
mstockdale@mho.net writes:

<< If you
 know why its always no. 4 please let me know.  If this is
 totally unusual for this to happen every 2-3 years, tell me
 why. >>

Have you tried rotating your cylinder numbers every once in a while? That way,
it won't always be the #4 cylinder... :-)

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From: "HENRY STAGE"<henry.stage@smtp.cnet.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 08:10:02 -0600
Subject: LucasAerospace not to blame

     When we tried to blow up Quaddafy (use any spelling you care to, 
     plenty to choose from) and managed to blow everything but, the fault 
     was not Lucas' fault. Rather it is a phenomenon called Datum.  You 
     see, any given chart of the world is based on a particular datum, or 
     baseline survey.  The farther away from that baseline you get ,the 
     more error, or distortion in the charts.  The coordinates for 
     targeteering in Lybia were done on WGS 72 and the planes were using 
     WGS 84.  There was as much as 16 meters difference for the same exact 
     spot on the two different datums.  That is also the official reason we 
     dropped a Mark 84 in the window of the French Embassy in downtown 
     Tripoli.  Never mind that they pissed us off my not allowing us to 
     overfly thier country and add a gazillion flight hours to the mission 
     just because they were a might worried about retaliation!
     
     LR content; for you long distance travelers with GPS remember to look 
     at the datum for your charts and see if they are the same. Some are 
     very, very old.  In fact, the GPS is much more accurate than the chart 
     is and if it says your sitting in the middle of a lake (on the chart) 
     and you happen to be high and dry; believe GPS! 
     
     Good hunting!
     
     Cole Stage
     '67 IIA ambulance "Hefelump" (as in, it is as big as a ...) 

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:17:57 EDT
Subject: Re: Coast to coast (almost)

In a message dated 10/8/98 8:11:27 AM SA Pacific Standard Time,
75347.452@compuserve.com writes:

<< Did the Canyon, Petrified forest and painted desert a couple years ago
 during Christmas leave and will probably not be stopping there but look
 foreward to driving through that area again. >>

You absolutely must! The changes since your last trip will absolutley amaze
you! 

The canyon is a wee bit less grand since the population explosion, the
petrified forest looks a little charred since the big forest fires of last
summer, and the painted desert is sporting new fall colors, thanks to a fresh
re-paint by sherwin willams.

my apologies to AZ list members. (I'm sure Gerry will be sending me a note)
;-)

--pat,

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:19:03 EDT
Subject: Series Stuff FS

For Sale:

New door tops.  No glass.  $125 plus shipping for the pair.

Five 16" steel wheels.  Used 109" take offs.  $200 plus shipping.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@rmi.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 07:49:53 -0600
Subject: RE Lucas Aerospace not to blame

Hi all!

Spent as I said before 20 years on the F-111 "Aardvark" Went to a few
briefings (which were unfortunately mostly classified) but Some info I
can pass on.

Most of the collateral damage caused in that raid was caused by the
Libyan's themselves!! Think about it, when you "Sound Shoot " with every
missile, gun, etc. you have and the weapon doesn't hit anything, it has
only one place to go--down on your city!! Same thing happened at Baghdad
in the opening hours of Desert Storm. Remember those pictures on CNN of
all those tracers going up!! Well they didn't hit anything, but targets
on the ground!!

The F-111 didn't have GPS back in 85-was part of the AMP modification in
92. For Bombing/Navigation a Inertial Navigation System (INS) is used,
which normally gives very good accuracy. But because of the long flight
around France and Spain (mentioned in prior message) the INS degraded.
The Pilots on the raid were told NOT to drop the weapons if they were
not absolutely sure of there target-that's why MR Gadaffy escaped. The
damage to the French Embassy was delightfully ironic, but was caused by
a Libyan missile gone astray.

Sorry for the rambling-had to set the record semi straight. LR content:
the INS system from a F-111 would completely fill the back of a Series
88" (Platform,3 ea. computers and the display/control unit). My GPS does
it cheaper, smaller, and with the same accuracy!!!

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark"

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 98 06:58:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Measuring head to determine how much you can mill off???

>	I'm thinking of milling the head on my 88 to up compression.  I probably
>have a 7-1 on it now and would like to go to 9-1 if that is possible.
;
The FAQ page in my web site tells you how to tell if you have a 7:1 or 
8:1 head, how to measure to see if a 7:1 head has been milled and by how 
much.  It also tells you how much should be removed total to bring a 7:1 
head to 8:1 compression.

It is my current understanding that earlier heads do not have as much 
metal between the bottom of the head and the water jacket as the newer 
heads.  If you take an early head up to 9:1 it may crack easier.

Anytime you shave the head check the clearence between the underside of 
the cast in lower thermostat housing and the water pump housing without 
the head gasket in place.  You should be able to freely slide a sheet of 
paper around between them.  Otherwise get out the grinder and take some 
metal off the rear top of the water pump housing.
;
;>	Also they mentioned changing the pushrods when milling the heads.  
Since
;>there is only one push rod mentioned in the parts book, why are they
;>suggesting this??

I have not measured but I suspect that factory 7:1 and 8:1 heads have the 
same height.  If you mill a 7:1 head to 8:1 you are lowering the rocker 
arm assembly 1/10th of an inch.  If you mill a 7:1 head to 9:1 you are 
probably lowering the rocker arm assembly down 1/5th of an inch.

This changes the rocker arm geometry and adds stresses that the assembly 
was not designed for.  The rocker arm will not be at the optimal angle 
when pushing down on the valve stim.

When you take a bunch off a head it is customary to shorten the push rods 
by the same amount.  Hot rod machine shops do this all the time and can 
probably make up a set of lighter and stronger than stock push rods out 
of hollow steel rods.

TeriAnn Wakeman                       The Green Rover, rebuilt and
Santa Cruz, California                and maintained using parts from
twakeman@cruzers.com                  British Pacific 800-554-4133
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman      

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: Re: 2.25 Valves

What type of thermostat are you using, The Genuine double acting  type or
the "flat" north Amer. type

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From: Iwan Vosloo <iwan@global.co.za>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:39:29 +0200
Subject: Re: Overdrives, Ashcroft Conversion's alternative

Peter,

> Do you have the name of a supplier of this freeflow system that will fit a
> LR? Can I design a system myself using 2" parts?

sorry, not really.  The place who did mine built it themselves...and
South Africa is a bit far from Sweden. If you want, I can find out
exactly what the dimensions & details are and forward them.  That might
only be late next week though.

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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From: "Dr. Russ" <rgdushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:02:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: head milling and compression ratios

'twas written: 
*** 
Someone once told me that you could flip the head
upside down, and then measure how much water it takes to fill the
combustion chamber in cc's. You then bring #1 to tdc.  Fill this with
water, measuring again.  Drop #1 to the bottom.  Continue filling and
measuring.  Add the head measurment to TDC and Bottom measurement.  Then
you have the ratio. Hope this helps.
***

and this is essentially correct.  However, to get high accuracy here,
what you have to do is use a flat plate (plexiglass is suggested) with
a small hole in the middle of it.  Turn the head upside down, fill
a chamber with water (plugs in, obviously, or you'll wet yerself), and 
put the plate on top.  Tap out all the air bubbles through the hole, then
pull the water out using a syringe or a pipet.  Ditto for a cylinder
(at TDC and BDC) to arrive at your relative volumes (and pressures,
since they are inversely related more or less linearly for these
purposes).  Of course, you have to have an accurate volume measuring
device, too...and you're probably best off repeating your measurements
at least three times and averaging (or better still, take it five
times, toss the high and low, and average the three middle values).

now, as to how much to trim off...uh, gotta figure out the volume
of a cylinder (assuming that last bit of the chamber is cylindrical)
and do some math...does your kid have a textbook???

Personally, though, I'd leave it as is and wait until you warp
the head and really need to mill it...

rd/nige

ps Steve Dennis once posted to this list exhaustive instructions for
doing this...might want to try some searching of the archives using
his name and/or key words.

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From: "Dr. Russ" <rgdushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:06:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 2.25 Valves

Re: Mitch blowing valves just on #4...

4 is furthest from the water supply...have you got the proper
head gasket and is it on correctly?  Recall hearing old ones
had restricted orafices in the front passages, but there were
some batches that didn't.  Dunno what's available today.  What
ya got?

rd/nige

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From: "Mark L. Freeman" <baker@iland.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:31:58 -0500
Subject: 2.25 L. burned valves, #4 cyl.
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In a message dated 10/7/98 7:51:18 PM SA Pacific Standard Time,
mstockdale@mho.net writes:<< If you know why its always no. 4 please let =

me know.  If this is totally unusual for this to happen every 2-3 years, =
tell me
why. >>

It has been my experience that this is caused by air exchange between =
the exhaust manifold and the cyl. head at # 4 cyl. due to the poor fit =
of the mainfold to the head.  The cast exhaust manifold is known to both =
crack and warp in this area.  The  2.25L engines I have owned and others =
I have  heard have the signature exhaust leak sound at or near #4 cyl.  =
The fresh air drawn into the cyl. head through the leak mixes with the =
unburned fuel mixture and creates a cutting torch effect that over a =
period of times turns the valve surface to toast.

Best Regards,

Mark Freeman
Sedalia, Missouri
1974 88 petrol
1975 109 hybrid
1997 Disco
1990 RR

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:54:08 -1000
Subject: Re: Coast to coast (almost)

>  I'm also starting in
>Va. Beach about 1/3 mile from the Atlantic (near Dam Neck Base).

Steve,
we went 58 through Suffolk, Emporia, past 95 to 85 south to Durham.  Picked
up 40 there.  We were going to do the 64-81 route through the mountains, but
SWMBO wanted to stop at a china outlet in Greensboro.

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From: Leger Marc-Andre <mleger@wefa.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:08:10 -0400 
Subject: RE: Exhaust Rattles

this is a test, sorry, I've been having problems sending to the list and
want to see if this change did it...

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:04:40 -1000
Subject: Re: Series Stuff FS

>For Sale:
>New door tops.  No glass.  $125 plus shipping for the pair.
>Five 16" steel wheels.  Used 109" take offs.  $200 plus shipping.

Anyone have a rough idea of the weight of the rims?
TIA
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:05:49 -1000
Subject: Re: Series Stuff FS

>For Sale:
>Chester, VA

Oh, and you would wait until I was as far away from VA as possible wouldn't
you  :-(
Hahah
Pete

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:25:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Series Stuff FS

Re: Rim weight:

Figure 60-70 pounds for the lot, i'd estimate. Call it 80 to be on the safe
side, and don't forget to allow for the pallet they're strapped to.

               ajr

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:15:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Un-subscribing from the list

In a message dated 07/10/98 18:53:29 BST, you write:

 PS:  To my fellow LRO, sorry for the tirade.  The only disrepect I meant was
 towards this person who can't seem to follow instructions >>
that's ok Gerry, you just took away some of my reason for living, which was to
see if this guy was still making a fool of himself.

BTW I love quiche but it's a no-no since my heart problem. So I hate him
anyway, for being able to eat it but not doing so :-)>

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110 CSW
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Series Stuff FS

At 07:04 AM 10/8/98 -1000, "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>Anyone have a rough idea of the weight of the rims?

 26 lbs each.

 UPS will ship clean rims by themselves with just a tag
 on them, but you save $2 per package if it is boxed,
 and also save another $2 if the address is a business
 rather than a residence....  "Hope Enterprises" ;)

-Michael

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:01:42 EDT
Subject: Re: LucasAerospace not to blame

In a message dated 08/10/98 13:40:00 BST, you write:

<< are to, 
      plenty to choose from) and managed to blow everything but, the fault 
      was not Lucas' fault. Rather it is a phenomenon called Datum.  You 
      see, any given chart of the world is based on a particular datu >>
I'll tell my mate - mind you, he never seemed too bothered anyhow....

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110 CSW
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:16:32 EDT
Subject: Re: Un-subscribing from the list

In a message dated 10/8/98 10:17:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
Frankelson@aol.com writes:

<< that's ok Gerry, you just took away some of my reason for living, which was
to
 see if this guy was still making a fool of himself.
 
 BTW I love quiche but it's a no-no since my heart problem. So I hate him
 anyway, for being able to eat it but not doing so :-)> >>

Aaaawwww Jeez...... I'm sorry as heck I did that.  And based on the picture in
the latest LRO, it appears you're not long for this world anyway!  :-)

He's one of yours on your side of the pond.  (One good thing about AOL is that
some people fill out profiles so I looked him up!)

Got the bulkhead out of the Dormobile last night.  You should have seen the
88" with a 2-ton capacity lift in the back.  Had to take it apart to move it
but with the added weight, the ride sure improved.  BTW, the Dormobile is
currently called HD.  At this point in time that means Humpty Dumpty.  If I
can't get it back together again,  I assume that a call to all the King's men
across the pond will bring assistance!

Cheers!
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:23:14 -1000
Subject: Re: Series Stuff FS

Does UPS have a 1-800?
Can not find anylisting for them in the local directory
Pete

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From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:54:31 -0400
Subject: Re: winter is coming, extra heat?

   I just spent a day this past weekend wandering around the scrap yards -it's
funny the things that you don't need until you see them- and while searching for
a set of seats for the "warthog" was inside a Chev. downsize van that had a
heater for the rear seats. Looks like it might be just the item your needing.
Good luck.
Dan
'61 SII 88 HT

Frankelson@aol.com wrote:

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From: Paul Lonsdale <Lonsdale@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:32:47 -0400
Subject: Re: GPS (was Lucas Aerospace not to blam

<<  LR content:the INS system from a F-111 would completely fill the 
back of a Series 88" (Platform,3 ea. computers and the display/control 
unit). My GPS does it cheaper, smaller, and with the same accuracy!!! 
<<  LR content:the INS system from a F-111 would completely fill the 

 Would you mind telling my which model GPS you have, and how much they 
cost in the USA.
 
 I am thinking of buying one when I visit Los Angeles in January, as 
most kit costs in Dollars what we pay in Pounds.
 
 Thanks

 Paul

 Thu, 08 Oct 1998 21:29

 Ex- H.M. Coastguard Series III 88 Inch
 "Dougal Mc Landie"  B 895 OJT
 

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From: "Wilson, Scott" <wilsons@msmail.vislab.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 16:44 -0500
Subject: RE: GPS (was Lucas Aerospace not to blam

> I am thinking of buying one when I visit Los Angeles in January, as
> most kit costs in Dollars what we pay in Pounds.
   

I really only know about the Delorme for Palm and Laptop... which I
would suggest if you have either of those, but for handheld GPS,
check out Yahoo... they have a few GPS links and even some
retailers...

 -Scott  

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:34:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Lucas Aerospace - Tristars

In a message dated 10/8/98 3:36:36 PM SA Pacific Standard Time,
Lonsdale@compuserve.com writes:

<< This one was caused by an idiot using a camping stove in the Economy 
 (coach) section.
  It wasn`t even airborne. >>

I heard it was a still, making taboo alcohol for the expats in first class...

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From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:25:02 -0400
Subject: Re: winter is coming, extra heat?

Dan & Sally Cantwell wrote:

>    I just spent a day this past weekend wandering around the scrap yards -it's
> funny the things that you don't need until you see them- and while searching 
for
> a set of seats for the "warthog" was inside a Chev. downsize van that had a
> heater for the rear seats. Looks like it might be just the item your needing.
> Good luck.
> Dan
> '61 SII 88 HT
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From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <rosvall@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:02:10 -0300
Subject: Re: Overdrive oil

.  You have to determine
>that you've got the right amount of oil, or have added the right amount
>of oil, by using the dipstick.

When does one determine the right amount of oil; Just "dip" the dipstick in
and then read or Place dipstick in hole then screw all the way down then
unscrew and then read?

Peter Rosvall
rosvall@nbnet.nb.ca

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 20:05:20 -0400
Subject: Cyl head machining

I believe that up to 3/16" can be machined off of a 7 to 1 head, a long time
ago Jim Allen sent some dimensions for the 8 to 1 change to the list .  One
of the problems is that the reduction in head thickness reduces
theadjustment possible on the tappets.  I have seen mention of different
pushrods but the parts list shows only one. I added some 0.060" shims under
the rocker shaft blocks to get clearance for the valves when I fitted the
modifeid head. ( problem is I had it modified about 5 years ago and have
forgotten how much was machined off by the time I fitted it earlier this year.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@rmi.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:36:50 -0600
Subject: John Cleese

Hi all-

A buddy emailed this to me-thought I'd share:

According to John Cleese...

In Thursday's Toronto "Globe and Mail," John Cleese offers three reasons

why the British are superior to Americans:

1. The British speak English.
2. When the British host a world championship, they invite other
countries.
3. Visitors to the head of State are expected to go down on only one
knee.

Sorry if I'm dragging a dead horse to water again:-)

LR content: Both John Cleese and Land Rover are the best thing Britain
has given us Yanks in a long time (IMHO). Not to forget Michael Palin,
Graham Chapman, Eric Idle, Terry Gilliam!!!

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark"

<singing> I'm a Lumberjack-------!!

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@rmi.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:12:31 -0600
Subject: RE:GPS

Paul Lonsdale asked:

 Would you mind telling my which model GPS you have, and how much they
cost in the USA.

 I am thinking of buying one when I visit Los Angeles in January, as
most kit costs in Dollars what we pay in Pounds.

 Thanks

 Paul

I just got a Garmin GPS III. Very happy with it!!!! I have it mounted on
top of dash right behind the vent-with built in antenna it still locks
onto satellites with just a little reduction in signal. My old
unit(which I shorted out to a damn fool mistake) would not lock on to
satellites while inside the "Vark". I have a external antenna I'll be
connecting up as soon as I can find a BNC connector.

This is not your average GPS. Has a moving map display-neat to be
driving along, see a curve ahead, look down at the map and see the curve
on the screen!! Can be used with a laptop.

Cost is $370 (US) You can get them without all the bells and whistles
for $100, but I would highly recommend spending a little more and get
one that will take an external antenna and take power from vehicle-the
AA batteries will run down in 12 hours or so----

The usual disclaimer-------

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark

PS If you want some links to GPS sites email me off the list

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Overdrive oil

>When does one determine the right amount of oil; Just "dip" the dipstick in
>and then read or Place dipstick in hole then screw all the way down then
>unscrew and then read?

Peter - I think it's a "put it in all the way" kind of thing.

Cheers   ;     )      Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:23:08 EDT
Subject: Re: GPS

In a message dated 10/8/98 6:18:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
artbitt@rmi.net writes:

<< This is not your average GPS. Has a moving map display-neat to be
 driving along, see a curve ahead, look down at the map and see the curve
 on the screen!! Can be used with a laptop. >>

Seems like I read that Garmin won't sell the III w/ European maps loaded to
protect their suppliers in Europe.  YMMV....

Cheers,
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:40:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Diesel Rangie?

Hi All -

Anybody know of any diesel range rovers for sale here in the states or Canada?
What diesel engine could easily replace the V8 gas ones?  Is there a kit
for a Cummings?
I think a 200TDi  would be too expensive (Wasn't RN selling them for
upwards of 10 k?!)
Will a rover 2.5 bolt in w/o too much hassle?
Is a rangie too much for the 2.5 to handle?
Not trying to make a race car here, but I don't want the engine constantly
overworked.
Asking for my dad - he's been bitten by the Roverbug - guess who gave it to
him?

Cheers - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: Ian Vowles <Ian@modricusa.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 21:20:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Lucas Aerospace - Tristars

This one was the subject of various stories ...... certainly stove in
ecconomy also major panic - doors couldn't be opened due to pile of bodies
stacked on them , and when I was out there the story told of aircraft being
delayed landing due to Royal Aircraft approach which added to the problem.

Dunno the truth of above but I do know we lost a Gulf Air flight years
later due to idiot in back trying to brew tea whilst airborne.

Always prefered the Gulf States - many more Landrovers :-) and still
available , unlike the here in the States -   Saudi is more Chevy country (
although I now drive Chevy as well - good trucks ) 

Cheers,

Ian
S11A 1966 88"

At 04:32 PM 10/8/98 -0400, you wrote:

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From: Robert McCullough <dieselbob@erols.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 00:09:25 -0400
Subject: GPS

I use a Garmin ll plus, works great, locally I can purchase for $239. The
Garmin lll sells for $300. National chain of stores called Boaters World
Discount Marine Supply. I would also recommend using an external antennae
while using it in the vehicle as sometimes it will lose track of  the
satellites, just as it will in heavily forested while backpacking 

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From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:16:35
Subject: Re: Shipping wheels to Hawaii. 

	I was quoted $40 each for shipping wheels from East Coast to Hawaii via
UPS.  Just another joy of living in paradise.
Aloha Peter	

>>Five 16" steel wheels.  Used 109" take offs.  $200 plus shipping.
>Pete

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From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:28:07
Subject: Re: Head dimension question answered but another question

	Thank you for all the replies.  Appreciate all the information.
	Terrain has the dimensions on her web site.  Looks like 100 thou. is
entirely safe and possibly as much as 140 thou.  for the 7-1 head.
	The push rods were apparently shortened with the introduction of the 8-1
head.  Since mine is a Hermaphrodite with parts from the original 70 engine
and the 65 engine that I rebuilt to replace it.  Valve gear came out of my
'70 so hopefully it is the new short type.  Anyone have the dimensions on
these pushrods so I can measure them to be sure???
Aloha Peter 

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From: DHW4U@aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:27:56 EDT
Subject: nuts or screws?

Last time i looked i thought i saw bleed screws on my front wheel clyinders.
Or am in nuts. 

dave walls
65 IIa 88

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:45:00 -1000
Subject: Re: Shipping wheels to Hawaii. 

Any chance you have some "spare" 16's lying around?  I go look at Wayne's 88
this weekend and know that it has 15's.  Would like to get larger ones if
possible.
Aloha
Pete

> I was quoted $40 each for shipping wheels from East Coast to Hawaii via
>UPS.  Just another joy of living in paradise.
>Aloha Peter

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From: Ed Alvarez <alvarez@btnmail.mozcom.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:21:21 +0800
Subject: erratic temp gauge

thank you for your advise and help, worked on it yesterday found a loose
wire behind the radio mount and fixed it.  

thanks again

Ed

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:51:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Lucas Aerospace - Tristars

Tristars smoke too much, when their engines light up...

American International Airlines (formerly Kalitta Air Service) operates many
of our former Tristars out of LAX - we're right next door to them, and of
course - they back their tails out facing us, pull up to the run up line, and
blammo - smoke for days!

Not really a bad design, but I HATED to load/unload those things, when the
drive wheels in the cargo bay went south! In that respect, the GE Bomber (the
DC-10) was much more loader-oriented.

Charles

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From: "Huub Pennings" <hps@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:59:09 +0100
Subject: rusted clutch to flywheel

Hello, is there anyone with suggestions on how to free a friction 
plate which is rusted to the flywheel?

Early on in the attempts I could not press the clutch pedal any further 
then half way, now after my big brother put his feet on it, I can 
push it to the bottom without much effort (It has started leaking some 
fluids from the clutch main cylinder so a rebuilding set has been 
ordered.)

Sofar I have tried starting the car in gear and jerking the throttle 
while driving, drive her against a tree (bended a bumper!!)

I'm on the verge of pulling the gearbox but hesitating because of the 
amount of work it involves.

What are my chances here?
Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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