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1 john cranfield [john.cra14Re: Tire ?
2 bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bo33balancing tires
3 Michael Carradine [cs@la40On or Off-Road?
4 Adrian Redmond [channel637leaving the list for a few weeks.
5 Carl Petter Swensson [ce26Flushing an overdrive
6 Frankelson@aol.com 25Re: Flushing an overdrive
7 SPYDERS@aol.com 32Re: Flushing an overdrive
8 jimfoo@uswest.net 24Re: balancing tires
9 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu16Re: Flushing an overdrive
10 Todd Schlemmer [nullman@13Halloween noises
11 Todd Schlemmer [nullman@18Your Weber 34 ICH carb
12 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu20Re: leaving the list for a few weeks.
13 "David and Cynthia Walke70Seeing the Series Rigs
14 "Thomas Ezendam" [t.ezed6[not specified]


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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:12:43 -0300
Subject: Re: Tire ?

Tackley, John wrote:
> I have an opportunity to buy 4 very slightly used Cooper Discoverer STT in
> that size for a very very good price but am concerned about the 265 width
> compared to the normal 235 width.

I have used this size for many years on an 88 and was very pleased. It
is similar to a 750 16 in diameter but a little wider.
     John and Muddy

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From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:33:03 -0700
Subject: balancing tires

Hi,
I occasionally mention this because I've had it make the difference on more
than one car. 2 Land-Rovers and one Pontiac(ralley wheels).
When having the wheels balanced, be sure the shop uses a lug adapter to
mount the wheels on the balancer!

The center hole is just not true enough, and they all use the quick way by
mounting with a cone in the center hole.
I learned this with the Pontiac ralley wheels after the tire shop replaced
3 of 4 tires and they discovered the reason.
When they mount with the center cone, they think it's balanced then if they
dismount and remount on the balancer it is not.

I've had them tell me wheels were bent and they used a large amount of
weights.
After hacing them use the lug adapter, the wheels were no longer "bent" and
they balanced fine.
BTW, the only time I had tires not need weights were Michelins. One of four
needed a small weight.

Cheers,
Bob Bernard
Bob Bernard <bobnsueb@maxinet.com>
Paradise,CA. 530-877-2749
69-88 "Sherman"
65-88 "Olivia"
51-80 "Nelly"

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From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 08:15:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: On or Off-Road?

At 09:36 PM 9/25/98, "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
:> no off-road use meant they should be able to get more money for
:> the vehicle, a position which seems valid to me.
:
:Except that I know of people who claimed there vehicles nver went off-raod
:when it did.  I even recall someone on the list (before it was split) who
:used to talk about off-roading (but then maybe it was just talk) then
:advertised trhe vehicle as never been off-road.

 Wasn't me!! ;)

 All of us Tread-Lightly! tree huggers have been taught never
 to take our SUV's *off* the road.  We're supposed to stay on the
 trails where others have driven, not aimlessly across the tundra,
 fields, and sand dunes, thereby damaging fragile ecosystems.

 Tread-Lightly! has a semantics problem in that they want you to
 to stay ON the roads and trails when OFF-roading.  It may be too
 late to change this unfortunate terminology, but our LR club on
 the club decal says "Tread-Lightly! On Back-Roads" reinforcing the
 concept of staying ON the roads, and differentiating between paved
 roads by calling unpaved roads "back roads" (small difference, eh?)

 Anyway, If I was asked if our RR has ever been Off-Road, I would
 certainly be able to say, "Never! Except for the time..."  Most
 back roads and trails are "roads", even the Rubicon Trail which is
 a county road, although not well maintained and barely passable.

 Cheers,

-Michael

 Pres LROA
 '50-80" '72-88" '89-RR

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:32:55 +0200
Subject: leaving the list for a few weeks.

Hi Folks,

I'm off to Alaska until late November, to start filming on my seemingly
ever lasting Alaska tv series project. Much as I'd like to take all of
you with me, my server cannot cope with 120 unopened e-mails a day, so I
have decided to unsubscribe.

But I'll be back, and in the meantime there's still life at the farm, my
family will be holding the fort so they - and I can be reached at this
e-mail address.

I look forward to december, new talks on the same subjects, go easy on
the lawyer jokes for Luis' sake, and keep my stool by the bar warm and
my beer cold!

Hi!

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)		    +45 86 57 22 66
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Visit the "Native Experience" project website at
http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: Carl Petter Swensson <cepe@online.no>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:41:22 +0200
Subject: Flushing an overdrive

I have just bought a used overdrive. I have opened the top
lid/inspection panel and emptied out the oil that was there. It looks
nice, but there is some oil sludge left stuck in the bottom og the
overdriev housing. 

Is there any way I can wash out the oil sludge safely. My first guess
was to use flush it with white spirit and then dry it and refill it with
gear oil, but I am not sure if any white spirit residue will harm the
oil. 

Does anyone have any advice to give?

--cepe

1979 109" Station Wagon Diesel
-- 
Carl P. Swensson	internet: cepe@online.no	
			telephone: +47-928 937 40
                        telefax:   +47-929 737 40
I speak for myself. I will tell you when I speak for someone else

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:19:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Flushing an overdrive

In a message dated 26/09/98 20:46:16 BST, you write:

 Is there any way I can wash out the oil sludge safely. My first guess
 was to use flush it with white spirit and then dry it and refill it with
 gear oil, but I am not sure if any white spirit residue will harm the
 oil. 
  >>
I usually use petrol - lots of it with a paintbrush to agitate - to clean out
all such items.
The point being that after a really good clean and flush out any residue will
evaporate....

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110 CSW
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:10:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Flushing an overdrive

In a message dated 9/26/98 5:22:15 PM, you wrote:

<<I usually use petrol - lots of it with a paintbrush to agitate - to clean
out
all such items.
The point being that after a really good clean and flush out any residue will
evaporate....

Best Cheers

Frank>>

Aren't you also the one who tosses a match to make sure there *isn't* any
residue? Or is that only for brake-shoes? ;-) 

(Seriously, I know it isn't the tree-hugger thing to do, but where I grew up,
petrol was used to clean so many different parts, from bearings to carb parts,
due to the absence of proper cleaning solutions; but it works great!)

Speaking of residue, I'll segue into a Clinton Joke:

Q: What was it that Clinton left on Monica's dress?

A: "Presidue"

--pat.

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:15:29 -0700
Subject: Re: balancing tires

Bob and Sue Bernard wrote:
> Hi,
> I occasionally mention this because I've had it make the difference on more
> than one car. 2 Land-Rovers and one Pontiac(ralley wheels).
> When having the wheels balanced, be sure the shop uses a lug adapter to
> mount the wheels on the balancer!

	I,ve been told to have them balanced with this adapter also as the
centers on my wheels weren't true. However on the other side, I just
mounted two tires myself last night. I was, and did go 4 wheeling today,
and as I didn't have time to balance them last night I was going to do
it today after I got back. However I didn't feel any vibration at all,
from 0 up to 65 mph, so I'm not going to balance them. I would care to
bet that they aren't balanced, but if I can't feel it is there really
any point. It won't hurt anything will it?

Jim Hall
Elephant Chaser 1966 88"

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 06:27:32 +0200
Subject: Re: Flushing an overdrive

> Q: What was it that Clinton left on Monica's dress?
> A: "Presidue"

Grooooaaaaannn!! That one really blew me away..

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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From: Todd Schlemmer <nullman@ptinet.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:21:16 -0700
Subject: Halloween noises

What is a good test for steering linkages / trouble spots to check (late
IIA)??  I hear spooky creaks when I turn (when moving ?) sometimes.  All
fluids are topped up.  Leaves (leafs?) look good- no visible sag.  Rocking
the truck doesn't seem to duplicate.  New tires, needs alignment.  Pastel
green.

Thanks as always.

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From: Todd Schlemmer <nullman@ptinet.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:30:41 -0700
Subject: Your Weber 34 ICH carb

I was plagued (nay, haunted) by a rovergeist that made my petrol engine
(2.25L) diesel when the ignition was turned off.  A common suggestion was
to install a fuel shutoff solenoid into the idle jet (next to the accel
pump).  NUTHIN else worked, so $41.00 and a 10 day wait later ( from Rovers
North) I wired the thing to the hot lead on the coil and Ta Daaaa!  Quoth
the raven...

The only problem I had was getting a sound connection on the lug wired into
the solenoid (must be factory original Lucas...)

Hope this helps someone else,
Todd

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:10:20 +0200
Subject: Re: leaving the list for a few weeks.

Adrian Redmond wrote:

> the lawyer jokes for Luis' sake, and keep my stool by the bar warm and
> my beer cold!

Adrian, if you leave a stool by the bar my guess is you won't be very
welcome when you come back. Nevertheless, Hamba Kahle, and we all look
forward to your return.

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:58:27 -0700
Subject: Seeing the Series Rigs

I have to side with TeriAnn on this one completely and perhaps a bit more
strongly.

In June and July I drove over 7,000 miles through most ever western state
and never saw one series truck on the open road..........sure I have seen a
few in Seattle and one that was abandoned on land in Idaho, but not a single
one on the road. In the past 9 months I have driven 15,000 miles, through 11
states and two provinces and never saw a Land Rover out there - I went and
saw LR's at owners home's, business's, show's, event's BUT, was never just
surprised by seeing one "in the open". So, where all of you?

Talking with the local folks and the fellow who owns the Land Rover repair
business in this town, I get the impression that most never roam much
further than 150 miles from home EVER, in their life! I was also told that
many see not more than 300-500 miles in a year.

I, like TeriAnn, use my Land Rover as my daily mode of transportation - this
is it, I do not have another car (although I am looking at a Unimog for
amusement). I also tend to go on longer trips with my LR.

So, what is stopping the rest of you from taking these longer journeys? Too
loud? - insulate the cabin area. Too rough? - graphite between the leaves
(this worked when my wife was 8 months pregnant!) or load her down! What,
not ready or reliable enough? Not pretty enough? Too pretty? Oh, I almost
forgot...too slow? - what were you expecting when you bought a fancy tractor
with WW2 engineering?

Since this is our 'virtual pub' - I am going to put it out there in the pub
like manner......
 "Gawd, look at yea - yeh all have stickers that say - 'I would rather push
my Land Rover a mile than ride in a Jeep' - yet yea all drive home in your
Mazda's and BMW's"
Well, I would say something like that, if we were in a pub - and I don't
drink beer.

Like TeriAnn and what seems, a few others, I enjoy the Land Rover enough to
NOT make it into a hobby vehicle......the day it drops to that status, I
will put her up for sale - and I hope that the next owner gets plenty of use
from her. When they rolled off the line, the workers and management never
thought that these would become "status icons" or "dust collectors".

A point that was rather well put is "how many are there that just want the
image of the lifestyle that the symbol represents?" - We live aboard a
cruising sailboat - well, strangely enough, because we have already cruised
some 15,000 miles........there are people who live aboard boats thinking
that it represents "the cruising lifestyle, freedom" or they believe that
they will some day go some where.

I use my Land Rover for daily travels, am an amateur paleontologist, hold a
degree in Outdoor Recreation.......the LR fits my lifestyle. I also LOVE
fixing and tinkering with vehicles - ask those who know/meet me!

Probable seems a bit odd, whining about not seeing others out there - but I
don't want to just 'hear' about LR's on a computer (the pasty shadow of
reality) - I want them in the real world! Well, rather than whacking on the
whole list, you can e-mail me direct - if you must
wahooadv@earthlink.net

Cheers
David
Full-time father of a 3.7 year old
1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD"
S/V KALAKALA  - our home
wahooadv@earthlink.net

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From: "Thomas Ezendam" <t.ezedam@tip.nl>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 12:44:25 +0200

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