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From: Sski3@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:56:21 EDT
Subject: Clayton Cunniff <clayton@worldpat

Looking for the correct address for Clayton, anyone?

Steve F 
69 SIIA 88

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 98 08:28:34 -0700
Subject: 5.9 L Cummings diesel

I saw an intersting add the other day that left me speculating.  It seems 
thet Dodge is offering a 5.6L inline six cylinder Cummings diesel.  It 
evidently comes in 160, 180 and 215HP versions.

I noticed that the intake seems to be on the left and the exhaust on the 
right side of the engine (good for left hand drive cars)

Does anyone know anything about this engine??  I wonder how big it is 
compaired to a Chevy 6 cyl petrol and if it would fit into a series LR.

ANyone know enough about this engine to speculate??????

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:21:40 -0700
Subject: Re: jarvis in watertown ny

Try jarvis64@aol.com. Bill rice is the one you want.

DHW4U@aol.com wrote:
> Looking for JARVIS or somthing like it from list
> please e-mail dhw4u@aol.com

Jim Hall
Elephant Chaser 1966 88"

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:14:15 -0700
Subject: Tach and Clunk

    Thanks to everyone that has given their opinion on my problems.  To
update everyone, the tach seems to work fine ever since. (BTW, '66 SIIa
with ~3" SMITHS tach)  I haven't yet opened up the diff or done any
other analysis that might lead to the explanation.  To be honest I am a
little frightened to do it.  I don't think, I REALLY don't think that it
is a bushing in the suspension.  The jolt is forward and reverse.  That
leads me to believe drive train (although I am inexperienced).  I will
probably open it up this weekend.  I really don't want to find a sheared
tooth, so I most likely will.  Is it possible that I sheered a half
shaft spline?  I just thought that it -might- explain the one
directional symptom, or one of the 'side' gears?
    I wish I could just pull it apart, find the problem and have the
parts to repair it immediately.  I am planning on a day trip next week
with a friend to go 'fishing'.  I don't know if we are going to take
rods or not, but we plan on finding some remote little water hole in the
mountains.
    I think I will build up to the experience, I'll go change the plugs
and try to fiddle with the dwell.  Speaking of dwell, doing the
previously mentioned technique with roughly pointing at #1, what angle
would that achieve?  I am told 52 degrees is what I am looking for.  Any
other way to accurately set the angle without the special tool?  Thanks
all for the indulgence.

Regards,

Kirk D. Hillman

PS- I still haven't decided on a name for my SIIa, ideas?

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From: "David Schwartz" <dschwartz@extremezone.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:36:49 -0700
Subject: Newbie Question for the experts...

Hello all,

My wife and I are considering a Discovery for our first Rover. We are
looking to pick up one that is a little used (96 or newer).

My question is this, excluding 1995 models and earlier (I've been told these
had a number of engine problems), how is the maintenence and reliability of
the 1996 and newer Discos?

I'm just trying to get some feedback from the folks that have (or have had)
them. I would greatly appreciate any info you could provide.

David & Lynn Schwartz
dschwartz@extremezone.com

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From: Vince Sabio <vince@humournet.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:55:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Newbie Question for the experts...

** Sometime around 13:36 -0400 8/22/98, David Schwartz said:

>Hello all,
>My wife and I are considering a Discovery for our first Rover. We are
>looking to pick up one that is a little used (96 or newer).
>My question is this, excluding 1995 models and earlier (I've been told these
>had a number of engine problems), how is the maintenence and reliability of
>the 1996 and newer Discos?

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>I'm just trying to get some feedback from the folks that have (or have had)
>them. I would greatly appreciate any info you could provide.
[]

David, let me share a little something with you and your wife (get your
mind out of the gutter, Frank, I wasn't referring to that): If you plan
to buy ANY kind of vehicle ever again for the rest of your lives, do not
join a mailing list devoted to discussion of that specific vehicle and
ask for feedback on reliability, etc.

The only reason any of us ever joins these lists is to complain. :-)

With that said (and no, I wasn't entirely serious), I can attest to
the fact that the Discovery is an absolutely wonderful vehicle with an
impeccable maintenance record -- including *no* unexpected repairs --
for the first 6,000 miles (9.600 km), which is as far as I've driven
mine in the two months I've owned it. <g>

Here's to hoping that the rest of the responses are more helpful than
this one ...

- Vince Sabio
  Columbia MD
  98 Disco LSE (Willow)
  Original owner!
  No leaks (yet)!
  No rattles (yet)!
  Still can't get that darned oil drain plug off (yet)!

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From: Scott Wilson <scott@scratchstudio.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:37:16 +0100
Subject: RE: Newbie Question for the experts...

>  No leaks (yet)!
>  Still can't get that darned oil drain plug off (yet)!

There's your problem... as soon as that drain plug comes off, the oil will
start pouring out of every oraface in the car... they to that to be sure they
don't start leaking until they're bought!

-Scott

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: 5.9 L Cummings diesel

>I saw an intersting add the other day that left me speculating.  It seems
>thet Dodge is offering a 5.6L inline six cylinder Cummings diesel.  It
>evidently comes in 160, 180 and 215HP versions.
Why not look into a GM 6.2 or 6.5.  Samari Conversions in England makes
kits for them and here in the states you can go to any junkyard and pick up
an old 6.2 out of a rusted out old chevy or suburban.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:46:29 EDT
Subject: RE 5.9L Cummins Diesel/ Dodge

You can read about it at http://www.cummins.com/ram/tdiesel.html

At 460 ft-lbs of torque,  can you say "snap, crackle and pop"?

It'd be a hell of an engine in a Series but if seems extremely complicated
with all of the engine management systems.

Later....
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 98 13:04:20 -0700
Subject: Re: RE 5.9L Cummins Diesel/ Dodge

>You can read about it at http://www.cummins.com/ram/tdiesel.html
;
;>At 460 ft-lbs of torque,  can you say "snap, crackle and pop"?

I can say Salisbury rear and Non-Rover transmission.

A problems is that any newish diesel in the US will have lots of 
complicated stuff to keep emissions down.  I was amazed looking at the 4 
cyl Suzuki diesels.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:26:44 EDT
Subject: double trouble??

Sorry folks, no LR content (except I can see mine out of the office window)
but are you getting two of this posting??
My flash session is sending two of the first post each time, but only one is
showing up when I get the list...
Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:26:44 EDT
Subject: double trouble??

Sorry folks, no LR content (except I can see mine out of the office window)
but are you getting two of this posting??
My flash session is sending two of the first post each time, but only one is
showing up when I get the list...
Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:37:55 -0500
Subject: Brake lines.  Is thread tape kosher/

I replaced all my brake lines and during bleeding I found that my brake
line connection to the rear right brake cylinder is leaking.  I
disconnected and reconnected and it does not appear to be cross
threaded.  Is pipe thread tape exceptable?

Cwolfe

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 17:13:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Brake lines.  Is thread tape kosher/

In a message dated 22/08/98 21:42:53 BST, you write:

<< Is pipe thread tape exceptable?
  >>
yep, use it all the time..

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:44:51 -0300
Subject: Re: Brake lines.  Is thread tape kosher/

Wolfe, Charles wrote:

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:51:29 -0300
Subject: Re: 5.9 L Cummings diesel

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> I saw an intersting add the other day that left me speculating.  It seems
> thet Dodge is offering a 5.6L inline six cylinder Cummings diesel.  It
> evidently comes in 160, 180 and 215HP versions.
> I noticed that the intake seems to be on the left and the exhaust on the
> right side of the engine (good for left hand drive cars)
> Does anyone know anything about this engine??  I wonder how big it is

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> compaired to a Chevy 6 cyl petrol and if it would fit into a series LR.
> ANyone know enough about this engine to speculate??????
This engine is huge. it fills the engine bay of a Dodge pickup entirely
from front to back and so would be way too long for any LandRover.
Having said that I feel this is a shame as it is a fine engine and would
make teriffic swap for green Land Rovers.
     John and Muddy

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:38:40 EDT
Subject: Re: 5.9 L Cummins diesel

In a message dated 98-08-22 17:51:03 EDT, John or Muddy wrote:

<< This engine is huge. it fills the engine bay of a Dodge pickup entirely
 from front to back and so would be way too long for any LandRover.
 Having said that I feel this is a shame as it is a fine engine and would
 make teriffic swap for green Land Rovers. >>

I saw the wwwsite that was previously posted, but couldn't find HxWxL or
weight for the engine. John says too long for any LR, but if I had a 101FC, or
even a SIIb 110FC, I'd hunt for the dimensions of this engine...  It is one
honkin' huge TDI!

--pat.

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Diesel Dreams...

Hmmmm people talking about the big 5.9L Cummings diesels got me thinking
again about all of the twists and turns of doing an engine swap in a Series
Rover.  I mentioned the 6.2-6.5 GM Diesels in my last post but my thought
is this; IF you're gonna go...GO BIG.  Cat 6.9L anyone????  I saw one put
into a custom pickup at a car show a few weeks ago. Just the sound of it
sitting there at idle made the hair on my arms stand up.  I'm thinking that
it sure would be nice/interesting to shove that big yellow monster into a
Series but I'm thinking that the problems with size as well as weight would
leave this to the twisted souls doing a coiler conversions or a hybrid of
some sort. One can always dream....

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:01:16
Subject: Re: Cummins diesel, a boat anchor to end all boat anchors.

	If size doesn't get you the weight surely would.  Think I saw a weight 
on
the cummins of over 900 pounds.  Probably 400 pounds heavier than the
2.25l.   Unless you have an overwhelming desire to tow the Queen Mary, one
of the turbo charged 4 cylinder diesels like the Iveco would seem to be a
better fit.  The Aussies have used a 3.9L Nissan diesel as standard
equipment, I think and may have been used as a factory engine in South
Africa.  Don't know if that engine is a six or a four cylinder.  It would
be one big four cylinder, however, so assume that some cutting would be
necessary to make it fit.  Also clearance for the front axle could be a
problem.  
	The real question is why after all these years, TeriAnn, are you looking
for a big foot rover. Tired of getting passed by mopeds??

>I saw an intersting add the other day that left me speculating.  It seems 
>thet Dodge is offering a 5.6L inline six cylinder Cummings diesel.  It 
>evidently comes in 160, 180 and 215HP versions.

>I noticed that the intake seems to be on the left and the exhaust on the 
>right side of the engine (good for left hand drive cars)
>evidently comes in 160, 180 and 215HP versions.

most efficient way to handle the intake/exhaust system.  Common custom
addition to many foreign engines was a cross flow head.

aloha Peter

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From: Wesley Harris <wharris@midmon.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:02:08 -0500
Subject: IT RUNS!!!!!!

After 18 months of wrenching, drinking, swearing, mumbling and thinking, my
as-yet un-named '64 88 moved under its own power today!!  I went for a jaunt
of about fifty meters down the alley and all seems well.  Nothing exploded
or burst into flame or fell off (give it time).  I am positively euphoric,
though this might be from petrol fumes.

I just wanted to say "thanks, ya sods!" to all on the list for all the
assistance and advice I've received this past year; another Series truck is
on the road!!!!

Ta,

Wes Harris
'64 88 SW, running, driving, leaking.

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: IT RUNS!!!!!!

>After 18 months of wrenching, drinking, swearing, mumbling and thinking, my
>as-yet un-named '64 88 moved under its own power today!!
What he fails to mention is that all of the work was done under a tarp in
the driveway... extra points for misery endured.
A Big Congratulations from both of us...I know how hard you've been
working.  What does the new S.O. think of the now running Rover???  Maybe
you can "Christen" the beast....

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:29:52 EDT
Subject: Uses for that rear PTO hole

Was fooling around with a mondo short circuit, some electrons and lots of
volts recently, and a thought came to mind re: a use for the hole in rear x-
member.

Why not mount a Tesla Coil in there, and when someone approaches too close in
their vehicle, ka-zzzap! A wild-ass spark issues forth onto their hood
ornament, frying their running horse logo or whatever.

oh well. weekend boredom resumes here.

--pat.

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:38:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Diesel Dreams...

In a message dated 22/08/98 23:41:03 BST, you write:

<< leave this to the twisted souls doing a coiler conversions or a hybrid of
 some sort. One can always dream.... >>

How about in a hopped up rolling chassis Russ??? :-)>

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:38:17 EDT
Subject: Re: IT RUNS!!!!!!

In a message dated 23/08/98 00:04:27 BST, you write:

<< another Series truck is
 on the road!!!! >>
Rover on my son!!!!

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:38:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Diesel Dreams...

In a message dated 22/08/98 23:41:03 BST, you write:

<< leave this to the twisted souls doing a coiler conversions or a hybrid of
 some sort. One can always dream.... >>

How about in a hopped up rolling chassis Russ??? :-)>

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:38:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Cummins diesel, a boat anchor to end all boat anchors.

In a message dated 22/08/98 23:57:22 BST, you write:

<<  turbo charged 4 cylinder diesels like the Iveco would seem to be a
 better fit.  The Aussies have used a 3.9L Nissan diesel as standard
 equipment, I think  >>
My Iveco Turbo pulls to over 80mph - just wait for the intercooler!!! - the
Aussies used an Isuzu 3-9 and I understand it is a lovely beast......

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:40:29 EDT
Subject: Re: Uses for that rear PTO hole

In a message dated 23/08/98 00:30:29 BST, you write:

<< oh well. weekend boredom resumes here. >>
but you can't have sold your Rover Pat???

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:40:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Uses for that rear PTO hole

In a message dated 23/08/98 00:30:29 BST, you write:

<< oh well. weekend boredom resumes here. >>
but you can't have sold your Rover Pat???

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:53:37 EDT
Subject: Re: Not sold, just put away for today.

In a message dated 98-08-22 19:42:19 EDT, you write:

<< << oh well. weekend boredom resumes here. >>
 but you can't have sold your Rover Pat??? >>

Never, Frank, never...  It is parked for the weekend. I pried my a** out of
the seat after a longish up-and-down the east coast trip this past four weeks,
and am taking a vacation from being in it, under it and on top of it. 

Not sure if the impending storm will strike south florida, so I've ensconced
it in a strong concrete structure, away from flying trees and vehicles...

As well, I can't treat the locals to seeing the most beautifully-ugly vehicle
on these streets *everyday*, can I? After a while, all the gawking pedestrians
start looking a lot like RTV canes... just miss 'em by close enough not to get
the points. (See, i did learn something at the ANARC meet. Thanks, Limey in
Exile!)

--pat.

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 98 16:59:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Cummins diesel, a boat anchor to end all boat anchors.

>	The real question is why after all these years, TeriAnn, are you looking
>for a big foot rover. Tired of getting passed by mopeds??
;
Its them pesky split window VW vans passing me uphill!

I figure I could cut a day off the drive to Moab & do it more often.  I 
also want to set a trailer up as a mobil film processing lab.  I would 
like to be able to pull it.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 02:00:21 +0200
Subject: Re: Brake lines.  Is thread tape kosher/

Whilst I am sure that PTFE tape works, I am not sure that it's entirely
kosher -because if the gland leaks without PTFE tape, then the pipe end
isn't sitting correctly in the gland housing.

I presume we're talking copper brake lines? Copper is a soft metal, the
cylinder gland components are harder - the theory is that the gland
collar (the part on the pipe) should sueeze the properly mated pipe end
into the gland housing. If all parts are clean (and correctly matched -
which judging by the fact that your other three wheels do not leak seems
to indicate correctly matched lines and glands/cylinders - then it must
not leak - if it does, then it means that the system is not
hydraulically sealed - given the pressures involved under braking, I
would prefer that the pipe system was taking the load rather than PTFE
tape. Just look at a PTFE sealed gland when you disassemble it, to see
how often the tightening process has stripped all but a sidgeon of PTFE
from the thread.

I'd check that the glands are really tight - using a proper gland
spanner will help.

Unlike Frank, I have never used PTFE on the brakes - but on the heater
valve and temp. sensor - that's another question!

Good luck.

Adrian Redmond

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:04:03 -0300
Subject: Re: Cummins diesel, a boat anchor to end all boat anchors.

Frankelson@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 22/08/98 23:57:22 BST, you write:
> <<  turbo charged 4 cylinder diesels like the Iveco would seem to be a
>  better fit.  The Aussies have used a 3.9L Nissan diesel as standard
>  equipment, I think  >>
> My Iveco Turbo pulls to over 80mph - just wait for the intercooler!!! - the
> Aussies used an Isuzu 3-9 and I understand it is a lovely beast...

  I have a Tractor with an Isuzu. A really good engine with crap
electrics but I fixed the alternator by swaping in a Lucas as the
Japanese biult one only lasted 2.5 minutes after the warrantee ran out
and would have cost $400 to fix or $700 to replace. The Lucas is now
around 30 years old and going fine ( it was already 20  when put in the
tractor.)
 John and Muddy

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:38:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Solex Adj.

Hi Everybody -
	I followed the adjustment procedures in the blue book for adjusting
my Solex.  After a few months I pulled the plugs to find evidence of a rich
mixture.  How do I make the mixture less rich?  Is it the 'needle screw' I
turn - which way?  BTW - I've got the smallest jets in there.	Thanks -
Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: "Clayton Kirkwood" <kirkwood@garlic.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:17:33 -0700
Subject: 1959 SII distributor timing q's, please help

Out once again on the truck doing this and that. I proceeded to set the
timing and handcranked the engin over to where the TDC, 3*, and 6* markings
were on the flywheel. The manual says to set to 6* which I did, and then
connect a test light between the LT at the distributor and ground which I
did.

Looking at the engine from the right hand side of the truck, the rotor was
basically towards 6 o'clock: this I would assume would be the start of
firing for plug 1 as the rotor comes around to make contact with the inside
post of the distributor. HOWEVER, that is the location for the contact to
plug two. (dist cap position when properly fitted appears to be plug 2 at 4
o'clock, plug 1 at 1 o'clock, plug 3 at 10 o'clock, and plug 4 at 7
o'clock). This appears to be off, or I am missing something?

The point I am trying to understand is: rotor is approaching the contact for
plug 2 not plug one. The engine runs ok. The plugs are new but dry black
(haynes suggest too rich a carb. And I get a bluish smoke out the tailpipe
along with a lot of black sputtered oil droplets. I run 87 octane and this
being an early SII is to be set at 6* BTDC.

Could the distributor itself be several teeth off? (seems unlikely since I
get good acceleration). Do I have the advance off? I just don't understand
why the rotor appears to be starting contact with plug 2 and not plug 1!!!!

Thanks in advance for any help...
Clayton Kirkwood
(916) 663-2368
kirkwood@garlic.com

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From: "Clayton Kirkwood" <kirkwood@garlic.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:39:54 -0700
Subject: 59 SII engine RPM questions

After setting my timing (see previous posting and associated problems), I
turned to trying to determine my RPMs in an attempt to set the Rochester
idle mix. I broke down several months ago and picked up a Fluke 88 (one of
the really nice Flukes which comes with an RPM inductive lead). I follow (I
think :>) the instructions on getting an RPM reading: connect inductive lead
around a plug wire, with specific side of pickup toward spark plug, set
meter to RPM, set to type 2 (4cycle, non-DIS) and then start engine (at
normal running temp). I do this and get readings in the 3000 range.

I know enough to know that the engine is not turning over at no 3000 RPM.
The diagram suggest that I should read the correct RPM. I try their various
alternatives (non-resisitor plugs: move pickup back from plug; averaging;
multispark type setting - apparently where the spark goes to both TDC
pistons even though one is finishing exhaust stroke; etc). Nothing seems to
work. No where in the manual where I read that I should divide the reading
by the number of cylinders - doesn't really make sense to, but ...

One thought is that because this is a positive ground system, something must
need to change???

What am I missing here??
TIA,

Clayton Kirkwood
(916) 663-2368
kirkwood@garlic.com

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From: "Clayton Kirkwood" <kirkwood@garlic.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:48:47 -0700
Subject: rochester adjustments on 59 SII

As you may have read severl other recent posts, I am trying to time and set
carb for said vehicle. I have the rochester carb and no real info on how to
properly set the mixture correctly. If I have the ignition set correctly,
then the last step should be setting the carb correctly. I have bluish smoke
all of the time and it sputters black droplets out the tail pipe and the 100
miles new plugs, I believe properly gapped, have a dry block suet all over
them (not wet). The Haynes manual suggests this symptom is caused be overly
rich carb setting. I believe I am running a 52 jet (possibly 51). I did a
carb rebuild recently (new gaskets etc). The page which came with the kit
doesn't adequately explain setting the carb up. Any pointers would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Clayton Kirkwood
(916) 663-2368
kirkwood@garlic.com

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:46:05 +0100
Subject: RE: 5.9 L Cummings diesel

Even if it fitted in a series (with Salisbury rear) how long do you think
the running gear would last??? It is about 300-400lb/ft of torque - NO WAY!!
You will trash everything in no time at all.

Do not even think about it ;-)

john

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