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1 "Johan A. Lammers" [Lamm27difficult to steer LR 109
2 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l37Re: difficult to steer LR 109
3 jules@learnlink.emory.ed24Re: SOLAROS apology
4 "Kenner, Dixon" [Dixon.K18New Parts!
5 JKwas61947@aol.com 11Safari Roof (?) for sale in Eastern NY $100
6 dsticht@cyberportal.net 14Mt. Shaw Run #4
7 john hess [jfhess@dcn.da49axle survey summary
8 AHKai@aol.com 24Re: Buying a Used Series III (still looking...)
9 "Emil King" [ewader@hotm12neophyte
10 "David R. Bobeck"[dbobec23Re: axle survey summary
11 "Steve Mace" [steve@solw46Re: LaSalle info
12 Ketil Oftedahl [ketil.of13Lost messages.
13 "David R. Bobeck"[dbobec25Re[2]: LaSalle info
14 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 24RE: Lost messages.
15 "Ray Burton" [Ray_Burton8RE: Lost messages.
16 asfco [asfco@banet.net> 14Re: Lost messages.
17 Ketil Oftedahl [ketil.of17Re: Lost messages.
18 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 20RE: Lost messages.
19 Udhishtran Senathirajah 22How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!
20 Kirk Hillman [khillman@r44A few good questions...
21 Benjamin Smith [bens@psa46Re: A few good questions...
22 caloccia@senie.com 18Mt. Shaw Run #4
23 Kirk Hillman [khillman@r29Re: A few good questions
24 Benjamin Smith [bens@psa30Re: A few good questions
25 caloccia@senie.com 18Mt. Shaw Run #4
26 caloccia@senie.com 21 Mt. Shaw Run #4
27 David Scheidt [david@inf26Re: A few good questions...
28 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire15Re: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!
29 Jarvis64@aol.com 14Warn 8724-50
30 Jarvis64@aol.com 18Re: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!
31 caloccia@senie.com 50MISSING / LOST messages
32 DHW4U@aol.com 16 Re: axle survey summary
33 "Franklin H. Yap" [FHYap19Re: Warn 8724-50
34 Frankelson@aol.com 22Re: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!


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From: "Johan A. Lammers" <LammersJ@zhdev.nl>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:46:07 +0200
Subject: difficult to steer LR 109

I'm a newcomer in LRO digest daily. It seems a good place to contact
other LRO's and exchanging information with them.
Since januari 1998 ,I own a Series III 109" safari station-wagon. I use
the car mostly for fun and for campingtrips. There's a bed,cupboards,
kitchen etc build-in the car and it has on official registration as a
camper. But thw dutch Mr. Taxman doesn't agree.
Last month I made a trip to Danmark en Sweden.
We reached the places we wanted and came home allright, but a lot off
times i got a bit sweaty behind the wheel because of the difficult
steering. Especialy when the road had those tracks (made by heavy
traffic going over the same piece of road over and over again) in there,
and when it was very windy. Or in one case both. I got swept from one
side of the road to the other side. I'm aware of the fact than i'm not
driving a LR is real work. But i think that this is to much.
Maybe someone has a similar experience or has a good suggestion.
I have Goodrich Trackedge tires fitted (750x16) , also freewheeling
hubs.
Do i have the wrong tires, or are my swivelpins badly worn because of
misuse of the freewheelhubs ?.

hans

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:08:01 -0400
Subject: Re: difficult to steer LR 109

Hello!

Steering problems don't always have to be the swivel pins - check the cheap
things first. Top up the oil in the steering relay (in the front chassis)
and the steering box. This may help in itself. If not, then proceed to find
out what's wrong.

Get the front of the car up on jacks and start by moving the tyres in and
out at the edges - first up and down, then side to side.

If there is movement up and down, have a partner step on the brakes and see
if it goes away.

If the movement goes away with the brakes on, then the wheel bearings may
not be right (loose, bad).

If it doesn't, then it may be the swivel pins. If you get movement side to
side with a clunking noise, you may have a bad ball joint in the steering
arms - try and find it.

Other things to check is the adjustment of the steering box and the
steering relay - wear in either of these two parts can cause funny
steering, as the wheels are not in complete control due to wear.

Lastly, check the arms on the steering relay itself. if the bolts are loose
and the arms can move side-to-side, then the steering will drift.

Basically, it's common sense - find the loose bits and tighten them up
properly by replacing parts or otherwise.

                    Al Richer/IIa109

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From: jules@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:42:56 -0400
Subject: Re: SOLAROS apology

lro@playground.sun.com writes:
>I get a bit accusatory and I'm suddenly inundated with replies and info
>from
>SOLAROS folks.  Thanks for the overwhelming response everyone, and sorry
>to
>unjustly accuse you all.  I'll get on the web site tomorrow and get all
>the
>info re. the rally and I reckon I'll meet all of you there.

Hey, no problem.  Sorry you got overlooked in the shuffle...

The Un-Rally is beginning to look like it will come off well.  We have a
rather long list of sponsors now, so freebies will abound and there should
be good examples of many different vendors' wares.

Sean P. Murphy
Project Director, LearnLink
Emory University

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From: "Kenner, Dixon" <Dixon.Kenner@ms.rc.x400.gc.ca>
Date: 14 Aug 1998 09:16:00 -0400
Subject: New Parts!

JKwas61947@aol.com writes -

>  You just need to use more JBWeld.  Mix up a big ol' ball of it and just keep
>sticking it on.  A full inch of JBWeld would probably make a fine diff case
>protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it hardens!

The oil loss is from the engine, not the diff.  I think I broke a couple rings
doing about 85 mph in the BGB to and from Stowe last year after a rebuild (Dale
followed in the Gin Palace to an accurate speed, though he is running 750/16's
on the GP and not the 205 originals). on the flats.  Never really been the same
since.  I may take it apart and look, but knowing me I won't do this
until the Wednesday before the British Invasion.

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:29:22 EDT
Subject: Safari Roof (?) for sale in Eastern NY $100

    In this weeks Want Ad Digest, there is a listing for a "Jungle Roof" for
an early '70s Land Rover 109.  Asking price is $100.
    I imagine they mean Safari Roof.  

It's located in Coeyman's Hollow NY.  Tele# 518-756-6789

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From: dsticht@cyberportal.net
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:43:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Mt. Shaw Run #4

When...Sept 19, 1998, 10:00am
Where..Meredith Town Docks, Meredith, NH
Bring..Lunch
	Yes, I know other events are on the same day. But, we do need a choice, 
don't we?  This is a "green lane" run for old timers and beginners.  It's a 
family style day trip to the top of Mt. Shaw (3000ft) with great views of mts. 
& lakes!! CB ch. 1.  RSVP
Dave

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From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 07:54:04 -0700
Subject: axle survey summary

Like I promised here is a summary.

14 responses

1) If you ever broke and axle shaft, was it the long one or the short
one

answer:  long one more often tho' answers from folks preclude numbers.
(people said things like I've broken 4 or 5 over the 20 years I've
owned rovers and it's usually the long one)

2) Where did it break?

here just about everyone said in the diff.  one person said in Golden
Gate Park (in San Francisco).

3) Was it genuine or aftermarket or unknown?

Most people didn't know and for those who had multiple shafts break,
they report that after market and genuine break.

4) Did you replace both with new ones?  genuine or other

most folks replaced both, but it split between genuine and
aftermarket.

FWIW, Once a year or before a big away from home trip, I pull both
axles out and look at them for twisting. 

cheers,
John F Hess   jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us        

Land Rover Dormobile web pages: 
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"

1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's), 

1960 swb roadster oops, not anymore, he has a top!  Needs door tops and
upper and lower tailgates.

 "Slug" (Alex's) Slug needs everything, donations accepted

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From: AHKai@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:10:24 EDT
Subject: Re: Buying a Used Series III (still looking...)

In a message dated 8/14/98 12:44:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, AHKai writes:

<< Well, I had a chance to look at the '74 Series III tonight.  Sure is rough
and could use a lot of work.  Parts of the frame appear to be seriously
rusted.  The motor isn't running either, and not knowing what else pretty much
rules it out for me.  I don't mind a project, but I really need something that
I could get in good running condition before winter.  Knowing me, my
mechanical ability (or is it a lack thereof?), and not knowing Rovers real
well, I'm thinking time is not on my side.  
 
 So, if anyone out there in Roverville knows of a decent Land Rover Series II
or III at a fair deal, decent bod, frame, etc, please contact me.  I live in
the Detroit, MI area.  Like I said, I don't mind doing some mechanical or
cosmetic work as it's part of the experience for me, it just can't be a
complete restoration project candidate.  Many thanks.
 
 Kai Higdon
 AHKai@aol.com >>

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From: "Emil King" <ewader@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:39:33 PDT
Subject: neophyte

Thank you list for answering some of my questions.  I will be contacting 
some of the organizations and people in my area. You've been a 
tremendous help.

Emil King
Hampton, VA

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:51:03 -0500
Subject: Re: axle survey summary 

>FWIW, Once a year or before a big away from home trip, I pull both 
>axles out and look at them for twisting. 

Great. The main conclusion drawn from this study?

1.Land Rovers break axles.

2.Both sides

3.Both ends

4.Both Coasts

5.Carry spares, or be prepared to go in front wheel drive.

later
dave b

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:37:19 +0100
Subject: Re: LaSalle info

> I saw a few people mention talk about LaSalle trim a little while ago.
> I've looked into it a bit and have talked with Clive about their products.
> I'm quite interested in their stuff but I would like to talk with some
> people on the list have actually ordered/installed their products. He
> has sold some of his stuff in Alaska and Canada (most recently in
> BC).
> If you do have experience or have seen their trim installed, can
> you email me or call me.

I've got their side and roof trims fitted in the D90. I'm quite 
happy but for a few points:

1. Measuring and cutting the trim for the windows was 
absolute hell! Both side windows and alpines were difficult 
to get the holes in the right place and the technique seems 
to be make the whole too small and open it up with a file - 
tgakes a very long time and is very dusty.

2. Panel fit is very poor... Some panel gaps I can get a 
little finger in.

3. Don't take thier advise and fit loft insulation (glass fibre) 
behind the panels for sound/temperature insulation. You 
can't fit the panels if you do that because they bulge out! 
After a couple of hours getting covered in glass fibres I 
gave in with that idea and fitting standard heavy duty felt 
sound proofing behind the panels.

4. Despite all that it does look quite good but next time I do 
do a few things different.

Steve

-------------------------------------
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 473899
Fax: +44 1482 472245
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From: Ketil Oftedahl <ketil.oftedahl@datapoint.no>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:50:20 +0200
Subject: Lost messages.

I have been 'loosing' messages from both the LRO and the CSO lists the
last week.  The digest files on www.land-rover.team.net contains several
messages which I have not received.  I first noticed this on Monday on
the CSO list. Is there something wrong with The Major, or should I blame
my ISP (again) ?

Ketil

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:46:04 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: LaSalle info 

>2. Panel fit is very poor... Some panel gaps I can get a 
>little finger in.

no doubt. we ARE tlaking land Rovers here...I will again refernce the old 
saying-

"there are two man made objects visible from outer space- the Great Wall of 
China and the panel gaps on a Land-Rover...

-Quote attributed to Quintin Aspin...don't know where he got it.

later
daveb
'72 Series III 4-Spd. Pastel Green
Several Working Lights
Four Matching Tires
Mother Nature "Custom" Winch Bumper
Six "Genuine Parts" Holes in Rear Tub
Ace Hardware Duct Tape

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:57:01 -0500
Subject: RE: Lost messages.

>I have been 'loosing' messages from both the LRO and the CSO lists the
>last week.  The digest files on www.land-rover.team.net contains several
>messages which I have not received.  I first noticed this on Monday on
>the CSO list. Is there something wrong with The Major, or should I blame
>my ISP (again) ?
>Ketil

The problem that I've been having is that my messages don't get processed or
something, but I send them and they never get to the list (on this week).
I've cheked here with the server and and everythig is normal. I don't know
where the source of the problem may be.
I don't even know if this message will come through!! :-(

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: "Ray Burton" <Ray_Burton@usairways.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:18:06 -0400
Subject: RE: Lost messages.

I don't seem to be receiving all of the postings either.  In fact, I never
saw the original posting for this thread.

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:24:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Lost messages.

Ray Burton wrote:
> I don't seem to be receiving all of the postings either. 

 
Same goes for me..I have noticed this has been going on for quite awhile
Rgds
Steve Bradke    68 series lla
                96 Discovery

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From: Ketil Oftedahl <ketil.oftedahl@datapoint.no>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:11:34 +0200
Subject: Re: Lost messages.

I one way it is good to hear that others have these problems, too >:-}.

I feared that it was my ISP that had these problems - then I (and my
colleagues) may even have lost some important business e-mails.

BTW, disregard that last remark - there couldn't be anything more
important than the daily dose of LR mail ;-) ???

Ketil

asfco wrote:

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:39:11 -0500
Subject: RE: Lost messages.

>Ray Burton wrote:
>> I don't seem to be receiving all of the postings either. 
>Same goes for me..I have noticed this has been going on for quite awhile
>Rgds
>Steve Bradke    68 series lla
>                96 Discovery

Maybe Bill can give us some light on the subject ????

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: Udhishtran Senathirajah <ingan@globalnet.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:48:57 +0100
Subject: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!

Hi all,
My 1980 LW has had all its brake pads and drums renewed about 5000 miles
ago. For the last 3/4 months, braking at low (sub 25MPH) speeds results in
horrific squealing from the wheels. I checked the front drums and pads,
they look like brand new, washed off all the dust (minimal) and drove it
around with the same results. As I remember, the squeal was the original
reason for changing the brakes in the first place and the infernal thing is
back with a vengance. I have never heard another LR ever squeal- I do
see/hear many as I live in the north of UK, near rural land, besides its
probably not a charecteristic-the British army is hardly gonna sellect a
rapid deployment vehicle with a propensity to cause explosive diarrhea each
time the brakes are touched!!. I would really appreciate any toubleshooting
advice.

Regards
Udhi

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:11:54 -0700
Subject: A few good questions...

    I would like to first of all thank those that responded to my
inquiry about suspension and carbs.  I am still looking for info, so
further replies would not be wasted.
    I have four issues that I would like to table in this list:

  1. Engines:    I have the standard 2.25 l petrol engine with 8:1 heads
     that have been shaved so compression is supposed to be about 9:1.
     There still isn't enough power for my liking, even though the
     engine was completely rebuilt ($$$) by a professional only 7000 km
     ago.  I would like to know what my options are for a replacement
     motor with little or no modifications to the frame because it is
     galvanized.  I understand that Santana used a 3.4 l engine at one
     point, does anyone know about it?  Could one still get parts?
  2. Brakes:    I am also dissatisfied with the stopping power of my
     brakes.  Currently I have the larger drums on the front (from a
     109") of my 88".  They do stop me, but the effort to do so is
     excessive IMHO.  What can one do?  Could I use a booster of some
     sort?  I see that TI Console has bolt on DISC brakes for
     sale.                  http://www.ticonsole.nl/     Has anyone
     tried them?  I am sure they have to be -at least- marginally better
     than drums.
  3. Military rotory light switch:    I have one of these in my civilian
     model 88".  Does anyone have a wiring diagram for neat little
     things like these (more than in the Haynes for example :-)
  4. Spare wheel:    Do any of you actually drive off road with them on
     the bonnet?  I couldn't see a thing.  I finally pulled it off and
     threw it in the back (less leg room than before!).  How else can
     one mount a tire out of the way?  I have a tailgate with the NATO
     package.  I am thinking that upright directly behind the seat box
     is about the best.

    Now that I have written all this for the second time (my computer
crashed the first time; I hope it isn't posted twice), I shall leave you
all in peace for the weekend... unless something else comes up.

Cheers,
Kirk D. Hillman
1966 SIIa Petrol 2.25l with SIII transmission

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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:19:50 -0500
Subject: Re: A few good questions... 

In message <bulk.18868.19980814151054@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:

>   1. Engines:    I have the standard 2.25 l petrol engine with 8:1 heads
>      that have been shaved so compression is supposed to be about 9:1.
>      There still isn't enough power for my liking, even though the
>      engine was completely rebuilt ($$$) by a professional only 7000 km
>      ago.  

	One thing to think about.  In the Rovers that I've heard had 
engines with lots more HP added, they owners started snapping halfshafts
and tranny shafts a lot more often.   Now it depends upon what you
want to do with your LR.  If your engine has more hign end HP, then you
will loose the low end torque of the 2.25.   I find it a lot more easy
to idle over things at <1000 rpm with my 77hp 2.25 in my Series than in
my 190HP 3.9 V8 in my Disco 5speed.

>   2. Brakes:    I am also dissatisfied with the stopping power of my
>      brakes.  Currently I have the larger drums on the front (from a
>      109") of my 88".  They do stop me, but the effort to do so is
>      excessive IMHO.  What can one do?  Could I use a booster of some
>      sort?  
	
	Why no added the booster from the Series III.  With that I have
no problem locking up all 4 wheels with 88" drums

>   4. Spare wheel:    Do any of you actually drive off road with them on
>      the bonnet?  I couldn't see a thing.  

	I do, but then I'm 6' 4" and can see over the tyre.  When rock crawling,
the tyre on the bonnet is a little annoying.  You need to have good
spacial memory to recall where all the rocks are once they pass out of
view.

Ben
--
Benjamin Smith                   "If I were running such a contest, I would
Collective Technologies          specifically eliminate any entries from Ben 
    (a pencom company)           involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere. 
Land-  : '72 Series III 88"      He'd drive it up the Amazon Basin for a half
 -Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd     can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie

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From: caloccia@senie.com
Date: 14 Aug 1998 22:38:05 -0000
Subject: Mt. Shaw Run #4

From: dsticht at cyberportal.net
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:43:31 -0400 (EDT)

When...Sept 19, 1998, 10:00am
Where..Meredith Town Docks, Meredith, NH
Bring..Lunch
        Yes, I know other events are on the same day. But, we do need a choice, 
don't we?  This is a "green lane" run for old timers and beginners.  It's a 
family style day trip to the top of Mt. Shaw (3000ft) with great views of mts. 
& lakes!! CB ch. 1.  RSVP
Dave

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From: Kirk Hillman <khillman@rttinc.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:22:28 -0700
Subject: Re: A few good questions

Ben,
    Thanks alot for the information.  Specifically, about the brakes, I
thought about a power assist unit before.  I don't know where they go or
how they are installed; I have never seen one.  I believe the part
number is 7226 from Atlantic British.  They call it a power brake vacuum
booster in the last Roverlog.  Is that what you are referring to?
    Engine choice.  I like the slow torque of the 2.25 l petrol engine a
great deal for most instances.  The problem came when I tried to ascend
a very steep winding path (more like a goat trail).  I got up most of
the way but stalled due to lack of power at a point near the top.  I did
make it over the top after getting going again.  I know I had more than
enough traction, I just lacked the power to get up easily.  Also, on the
highway it would be nice to have a little more power.  I don't intend to
drive faster than I already do (about 90kph), but I have to crawl to get
over the hills.  On some of the bigger hills I am down to 60kph by the
time I reach the top.  I feel a little bit threatened by all the traffic
flying by; it can't be safe.  I don't want to give you the wrong idea.
A 350 isn't what I am looking for.  Just a little more would be great,
like a 3.4 l for example.
    Thanks again for the input Ben.

Regards,
Kirk

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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:55:07 -0500
Subject: Re: A few good questions 

In message <bulk.20400.19980814162102@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:

>     Thanks alot for the information.  Specifically, about the brakes, I
> thought about a power assist unit before.  I don't know where they go or
> how they are installed; I have never seen one.  I believe the part
> number is 7226 from Atlantic British.  They call it a power brake vacuum
> booster in the last Roverlog.  Is that what you are referring to?

	I dunno what it is in the ABP numbers, but power brake vacuum
booster sounds right.  I hooks a vacuum line to the manifold or carb for the
assist.  It will probably only fit on a Series III brake master cylinder.
(This is a guess since I haven't tried to do that with a SIIA).

	To see how a Series III brakes, you might try to find a SIII owner
in your area with brakes in good working order and try them out before you
fork out the $$$ for the parts.

Ben
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From: caloccia@senie.com
Date: 15 Aug 1998 01:10:30 -0000
Subject: Mt. Shaw Run #4

From: dsticht at cyberportal.net
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:43:31 -0400 (EDT)

When...Sept 19, 1998, 10:00am
Where..Meredith Town Docks, Meredith, NH
Bring..Lunch
        Yes, I know other events are on the same day. But, we do need a choice, 
don't we?  This is a "green lane" run for old timers and beginners.  It's a 
family style day trip to the top of Mt. Shaw (3000ft) with great views of mts. 
& lakes!! CB ch. 1.  RSVP
Dave

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From: caloccia@senie.com
Date: 15 Aug 1998 01:18:40 -0000
Subject:  Mt. Shaw Run #4

From: dsticht at cyberportal.net
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:43:31 -0400 (EDT)

When...Sept 19, 1998, 10:00am
Where..Meredith Town Docks, Meredith, NH
Bring..Lunch
        Yes, I know other events are on the same day. But, we do need a choice, 
don't we?  This is a "green lane" run for old timers and beginners.  It's a 
family style day trip to the top of Mt. Shaw (3000ft) with great views of mts. 
& lakes!! CB ch. 1.  RSVP
Dave

[this message was previously denied due to a very broad 'cyber*' filter]
-Bill

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:31:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: A few good questions...

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Kirk Hillman wrote:

>   1. Engines:    I have the standard 2.25 l petrol engine with 8:1 heads
>      There still isn't enough power for my liking, even though the

What I have is a 2.25 with the 2.5L camshaft, a Pierce manifold with a
32/36 DGV Weber on it, and headers.  When my valves don't have holes in
them, Mr. Sinclair has no problems going as fast as your really want to be
going in a series rover.  Terminal velocity on the flat is somewher around
80 mph (130 k/h).

>      things like these (more than in the Haynes for example :-)
>   4. Spare wheel:    Do any of you actually drive off road with them on
>      the bonnet?  I couldn't see a thing.  I finally pulled it off and

I do.  The only times it's a bother is going over the ridge of hill, and
rock climbing.  There are parts available to mount it directly behind the
rear seats.  A real pain to get in and out.

David/mr sinclair

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:32:51 -0400
Subject: Re: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!

Check your brake shoes to see if they are "glazed". If they are, remove the
shine by gentle sanding.If the squeal stops but then returns you will have to
replace the shoes. When new shoes are fitted it is important that the first few
hundred miles are confined to reasonably gentle braking to allow the brake
material to "cure" properly. Harsh braking during this period will cause them
to glaze and they will then squeal. Were your shoes Genuine or top quality
brand when replaced?

Udhishtran Senathirajah wrote:

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:39:23 EDT
Subject: Warn 8724-50

Howdy folks,
Seein' as how I'm the last person on the planet to get LRW, my August issue
just arrived and in it I spied the aforementioned winch.  Read elsewhere in
the mag that it's a UK-only deal.  Anyone know why that is (if it is) or if we
can complain loudly enough to get Warn to sell some over here?  Everyone raves
about these and I wouldn't mind getting one.

Bill Rice

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:39:29 EDT
Subject: Re:  How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!

Udhi,
I had a similar problem when I replaced the front drums on my SIIA 109".
After I posted a question just like yours, someone else (who bought their
drums from the same supplier) answered me and said his similar problem had
been solved by having the drums skimmed, which is a drag to have to do to
brand new drums,  but it worked for him and it worked for me.  So I considered
it a $15 well-spent to be able to stop at intersections and be stared at
because of what Mrs. Merdle looks like, not what she sounds like.

Bill Rice
SIIA 109SW
Columbus, GA

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From: caloccia@senie.com
Date: 15 Aug 1998 02:57:39 -0000
Subject: MISSING / LOST messages

Hi,

There are other reasons why you might not receive some messages that
show up in the digest, like the 'real-time' and 'digests' had some
differences (the real time being more-restrictive, to prevent looping, etc.)
and ISPs do drop mail.  If they report your account as an 'unknown user'
you've got a fairly high chance of getting automatically unsubscribed, and
if there are persistant 'host unknown' messages you may get moved from
a real time list to a digest.

The following change was implemented earlier in the week and has been
swallowing 20 messages / day on the RRO and LRO list...

Cheers,
  -B

>From: caloccia@senie.com
>Date: 13 Aug 1998 17:09:55 -0000
>Subject: changes in list mail handling

Hi All,

After the looping mail the other day, a change was made to prevent any
such occurances happening again, but it MAY AFFECT YOUR REPLIES !!

If you REPLY (to individual messages) and FORWARD the whole message,
your reply WILL BE DROPPED.  You may avoid your reply being dropped if
you cut out the parts of the forwarded message which are not necessary
for your reply.  (e.g. if you only include a few important lines of text
from the message which you are replying to).

If you include parts of the head, or parts of the three line footer
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From: DHW4U@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:50:29 EDT
Subject:  Re: axle survey summary

Hey Dave ,
Sunday with a bunch of jeeps broke short side in diff no fun had to retreat
with my tail tween my legs couldn"t even climb out of the trail had to go out
in reverse not a landy in sight to cover for me but the real comedy started
when the parts came in the mail only my second axle in 14 years one of each
sorry i was'nt in your survay 

dave walls
dhw4u@aol.com
65 88 2a

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From: "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:51:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Warn 8724-50

Jarvis64@aol.com wrote:

> Howdy folks,
> Seein' as how I'm the last person on the planet to get LRW, my August issue
> just arrived and in it I spied the aforementioned winch.  Read elsewhere in
> the mag that it's a UK-only deal.  Anyone know why that is (if it is) or if we
> can complain loudly enough to get Warn to sell some over here?  Everyone raves
> about these and I wouldn't mind getting one.

The Warn 8274-50 is available in the US.   When I checked about a month ago, the
price was the same as the 8274.

Frank

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 05:46:33 EDT
Subject: Re: How do I troubleshoot Sqealing brakes on my Slll Lightweight?!

In a message dated 14/08/98 23:02:02 BST, you write:

<<  I live in the north of UK, near rural land >>
Udhi,
I live in the north Uk as well, Lancashire, Rossendale.......are you far
away??
anyway yr brakes, try removing the brake shoes and chamfering the leading edge
- it usually works...

Best Cheers

Frank
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