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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:13:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Man, do I need a piece of glass

In a message dated 98-08-11 23:56:39 EDT, you write:

 to cut a custom piece of glass for a few tens of dollars.
  >>

British Bulldog's got then for about $22.  Probably be less that $30 with
shipping.

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From: Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:09:23 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: New to the list

>Antonio Wrote:
>>> I moved here with my wife, from Milan, Italy five years ago.
>> Welcome to the list Antonio,
>> from the UK contingent......
>> Frank

Ciao Antonio,

Lo stesso per me
Benvenuto alla lista da parte degli Italiani.

A dopo ...

Paul.

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From: Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:18:01 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: re: appropriate business mail for a person of your standing

Richard Clarke wrote:
: why don't you do as I do and only receive the digest - then it is only one
: email a day and people don't seem to get concerned (actually 2 as I'm on
: the cso too)

Even with this mail traffic reducing measure, get on good terms with your 
postmaster.

I have a backlog of mail digests for the lro and uk-lro to get through that is 
occupying 5.9Mb.

Thankfully I _am_ the postmaster ;-)

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:37:12 EDT
Subject: 88" springs for sale

I'm going parabolic, so I need to sell these springs.

New from A-B set of front and rear springs for 88, incl. shackles, shackle
bolts with nylocks, u-bolts, shocks, and axle straps.

British-Bulldog gets $590 for these.  I'm asking $540.

John Kwasnik
Sherburne NY
607-674-9693(w)
607-674-6256(h)

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:12:15 EDT
Subject: Re: Michelin

In a message dated 12/08/98 05:29:34 BST, you write:

<< association).
 There are plenty of other tires out there. Armstrong, a Pirelli branch, makes
 amazing tires that spank BFG in my opinion. They cost less, are quieter, and
 look great on a LR. I prefer 235/75/r16s for that tall 7.50 look.
  >>
My General Grabber MTs, 235/85 r16s are exactly the same size as 7.50s. We've
measured them.
Wear well, 40,000mls on the last set, grip well in the UK mud.

usual disclaimers, just a satisfied customer.

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: "jstunes" <jstunes@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:43:36 -0700
Subject: LR Newcomer

Hello everyone,

I'm brand spanking new to the world of 4x4 and Land Rover.  Just bought a
new Discovery 3 weeks ago and have enjoy it every since.  Came upon this
list by accident but am glad that I did.

It seems most people that get on this list regularly own older LRs.  In
fact, there's rarely any mention of the Discovery.  I understand that most
of the vehicle related post were mechanically oriented.  And the Discovery
must be quite a nightmare compared to the older and simpler machines of
yesteryears.  The other posts are quite interesting though, like
"potentially lethal event".

BTW, anyone in the Southern California area?  I'm interested in joining a
local LR club.
If so, please email me privately with the info.

Looking forward to learning all about 4x4 and off-roading from all you
veterans.

Joe S.

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:43:20 -0400
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

There's a good reason you don't see much on the Disco here - there's a
separate list for the folks with newer Rovers.

Try rro@land-rover.team.net - they're the folks with the newer machines.
You're welcome here too, but don't expect much mention of CD players,
sunroofs or air conditioners...<grin>

Congratulations on buying a great car!

                         ajr

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From: Ed Shen <edshen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:58:11 -0700
Subject: <Southern CA, LA Area>  Any recommended service shops or

Hi Everybody,

I just took possession of a 1996 Discovery SE7 and need help finding an
independent service shop or dealer that does good mechanical work at
reasonable prices.  Any recommendations?  I'm in Pasadena, CA.  Please mail
your recommendations to me directly at: edshen@earthlink.net

TIA.

Ed

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From: "Wilson, Scott" <wilsons@msmail.vislab.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:02 -0500
Subject: RE: LR Newcomer

> You're welcome here too, but don't expect much mention of CD players,
> sunroofs or air conditioners...<grin>

Actually... I saw a guy careening around brooklyn with what looked like a
roof-top air conditioner on a reddish orange SIIA... it was his work   
truck...
maybe construction or steel works or something... any idea who he is?

 -scott

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From: TBache9248@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:07:51 EDT
Subject: G-P Trails/map

Hi all G-P Attendees,
I would like to mention about the trail system in NYS.  Most of the state
forest land is marked with boundary signs (which you no doubt saw).  Motorised
access is permitted (not prosecuted at least) on existing trails.  This allows
hunters, etc access.  The state DER does not want to give out permits for use
because of the liability thing ( "I flipped my Rover in your woods" sort of a
thing)  nor could we exactly publish a map with all known trails, so we did
the next best thing- we gave out a map ( some of you didn't pick it up at the
FLLRC tent or the main tent apparently) which we had plotted via GPS, and
notes were added in.
In terms of difficulty, no attempt was made to point you in the direction
where you would damage your truck/self.  If you wanted to get stuck, all you
had to do was stray off the power line and I see no one tried so most of you
weren't that interested in using tow straps.  There was plenty of standing
water/mud when we went by on Sat afternoon.
As far as maps at other events, I can't recall ever getting one or it being
offered.  if you went off-road during the Mid_Atlantic it was on your own, as
the fun was intentionally confined to the event area (correct me Sandy)  I
haven't been to the event at Tellico or a Solihull Society event, but I don't
think they do maps either.  You just go along with a group.  Part of the fun
in my opinion is meeting new people and sharing the activity together.  
Dave Johnson, Team FLLRC and myself together put in six trips to the "Peak"
just to sort out the trails and decide where they go or don't go.   Many hours
are spent driving around and turning around because you hit deadends.  We even
"opened" some so they could connect.  
If you couldn't find where to go, perhaps next year we can do better with
everyone's help.
My thanks to the organizers of ANARC for pulling of a major undertaking and
allowing me to participate.  It was a learning curve for me and I will attempt
to carry this back to our various clubs' events in the future.

Tom Bache
Avondale, PA
R.O.V.E.R.S.
BRLRC
ROAV
OVLR
Solihull Society
Flatland Rover Club
WCRC
Series One Club-US Rep.
RRR
FLLRC

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From: "Thayakaran Thava" <Thayakaran.Thava.thava@nt.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:24:05 -0400
Subject: Hunting for a Land rover!

Hi There!
I am looking to buy a early 70's Landrover(soft top), If you know or
have one please let me know.
Thanks In advance
Thayakaran  Thava
        7631015

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:29:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Hunting for a Land rover!

Would help if you told us where you are....

               ajr

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:55:37 EDT
Subject: Re: Hunting for a Land rover!

In a message dated 98-08-12 13:29:51 EDT, you write:

<< I am looking to buy a early 70's Landrover(soft top), If you know or
 have one please let me know. >

Check lrx.com.  Seems like the asking prices are out of sight there,
though....

John

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From: Elwyn York <eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:56:53 +0100
Subject: 2.5 TD into S3 Lightweight

Hi

Can anyone shed some light on a recent problem.

Due to my LR soon becoming a commuting vehicle, can you tell me how easy is
it to fit a 2.5 TD from a defender into a Series 3 LR Lightweight? At the
moment it has a 2.25 4cyl petrol.

Also. What does TDi Stand for?
Turbo Diesel Intercooled
Turbo Diesel Injection
?

And. What sort of prices can i expect from a new unit, where from and what
modifications need to be made. What is the MPG of these units?

OK. Thats it. Hope you can help
Elwyn York
LR S3 '72 (Dented) Lightweight. "Green Brick" [47 FL 06]
mailto:Elwyny@mailshuttle.com. ICQ: 17087824

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From: Joel Baskin <joebas@symix.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:25:31 -0400
Subject: RE: G-P Trails/map

Hello there,

Just thinking that if Greek Peak becomes an annual event, it would be
helpful to have real accurate up-to-date maps. They would be useable year in
year out, too. Why not break into groups and map the trails as part of the
activities? Sure would get those adventurous types to do something useful
with their energy. After next year, it would be just updating them for the
less adventurous types.

Joel Baskin
mostly a 1966 SIIa 88"

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:44:22 EDT
Subject: Re: 2.5 TD into S3 Lightweight

In a message dated 98-08-12 14:01:18 EDT, you write:

<< Also. What does TDi Stand for? >>

Turbo Direct Injection

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From: "Kenner, Dixon" <Dixon.Kenner@ms.rc.x400.gc.ca>
Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:28:00 -0400
Subject: new parts!

>Most of the time I'm suprised when the Green Beastie actually gets to
>an event under its own power.   Dixon is proof of all the lack of maintenance
>that a Land Rover can take before dying under it's own weight.   How many years
>did your rear diff have no oil before it exploded Dixon??

BGB always gets where its going... eventually...  

Rear diff was rotten from the word go.  Kept slowly losing oil.  About four
years ago it started to make a real mess on the back window so I opened up the
plug.  Got about six bolts out of the diff and then noticed that they had all
been trying to escape out the back cover.  (Makes an interesting jump when
they catch on the crown wheel).  So, mallet in hand I pounded the wee holes 
closed, filled it up with oil and promised never, ever to open it up again.
It lasted until earlier this summer when it came to a big grinding shop when
the bearings overheated and seized.  It looked like a geode on the inside.
Piles of sparkly bits from disintegrating bearings etc.  Every bolt on the crown
wheel was broken.

JB Weld (a fave up here) on the casing to hold new oil in, another used diff
and it was back on the road.  Dale coated the inside of the pumkin with clear 
plastic to preserve the image (doesn't sparkle as nice with plasti-coat as 
hypoid)
and stole a bunch of the parts for his rear diff in the mighty Range Rover.
Rest of the bits I am going to keep as spares...  

:-)

Oh, two gallons of oil each way to Cortland from Ottawa (oh, 250 miles?) 
Know I ran it dry a couple of times.  Maybe I'll add some grease etc to the 
next oil replenishment.

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:07:44 EDT
Subject: Re-Re, Unsubscribe/Peru

Just watch it you lot, I havn't gone yet. Frank tipped me off to have a look
at the list before I leave.

How would you like some Llama dung postcards? Bye now got to pack my wellies!

(that will keep the yanks guessing Frank)

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
+ Rolling RR chassis (awaiting the right body)

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From: "Ray Burton" <Ray_Burton@usairways.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:17:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Re-Re, Unsubscribe/Peru

Mike,

Do the wellies work with llamas as well as they do with sheep?

Ray

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:20:18 EDT
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

 

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:20:31 EDT
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

In a message dated 8/12/98 12:43:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jstunes@email.msn.com writes:

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:23:58 EDT
Subject: Re: new parts!

In a message dated 98-08-12 14:50:23 EDT, you write:

<< Oh, two gallons of oil each way to Cortland from Ottawa (oh, 250 miles?) 
 Know I ran it dry a couple of times.   >>

  You just need to use more JBWeld.  Mix up a big ol' ball of it and just keep
sticking it on.  A full inch of JBWeld would probably make a fine diff case
protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it hardens!

John

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:28:26 EDT
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

In a message dated 8/12/98 3:23:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RykRover@aol.com
writes:

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:28:11 EDT
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

 

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:33:06 +0100
Subject: Re: LR Newcomer

In message <bulk.21532.19980812094618@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Alan_Richer@
motorcity2.lotus.com writes

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:45:36 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: new parts! 

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From: "Chris Velardi" <tchris@freewwweb.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:12:36 -0400
Subject: Re: new parts!

Does J.B. Weld really work?
Chris "V"

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From: "David R. Bobeck"<dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:26:39 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: new parts! 

trying this again...
> Oh, two gallons of oil each way to Cortland from Ottawa (oh, 250 miles?) 

  >You just need to use more JBWeld.  Mix up a big ol' ball of it and just keep
>sticking it on.  A full inch of JBWeld would probably make a fine diff case 
>protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it 
?hardens!
>John
>protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it 
err...I think he was referring to the ENGINE oil there mate...

later,
dave

the woods are lovely, dark and deep...

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From: Arthur Maravelis <amjas@gis.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:20:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Engine swap

Greetings,

Bill, I emailed Steve Parker a while ago about this very issue. I was told
firsthand that the bolt patterns are different. I was also told that they
had a customer in S.C. who was adapting their adaptor to fit an American
Ford V6. They never told me his name and I dropped the whole thing as I
decided to go with a Chevy 350 and a GM 4-spd and transfer.

Art
'72 S3 88
'69 TR6 PI
Boston, MA
USA

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:33:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Re[2]: new parts!

In a message dated 98-08-12 16:30:25 EDT, you write:

.<<  >You just need to use more JBWeld.  Mix up a big ol' ball of it and just
keep
 .>sticking it on.  A full inch of JBWeld would probably make a fine diff case
 .>protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it 
 .?hardens!
 .>John
 .>protector, as well!  You could even write your name in it before it 

 .err...I think he was referring to the ENGINE oil there mate...
. 
. later,
. dave >>

    I'm pretty much up on that there buddy...
Whatsamatter, you only got one use for JBWeld?
My woods ain't that dark and deep.

John Kwasnik
Sherburne NY

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From: Elwyn York <eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:20:42 +0100
Subject: Turbo for Perkins 4203

Hi. Me again.

Ok. I am also looking for a turbo unit for a perkins 4203 3L engine...

this is all for my mate paul. I think he wants to go swimming at speed in
his LR! :-)

Cheers, Elwyn
LR S3 '72 (Dented) Lightweight. "Green Brick" [47 FL 06]
mailto:Elwyny@mailshuttle.com. ICQ: 17087824

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:35:35 -0300
Subject: Re: Starter/solenoid question

JKwas61947@aol.com wrote:

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:49:42 -0300
Subject: Re: Man, do I need a piece of glass

Jeffrey Jackson wrote:

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:18:23 -0300
Subject: Re: Batteries

David Scheidt wrote:

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From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:31:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Engine swap

I saw an original plate(the engine-to-bellhousing) that was drilled out to
bolt to a Ford V-6.  Steve Johnson of Dixieland Rovers has it.  He says that
it is "easy" to do.  Of course, that's coming from a guy who bolted two series
trannys together to create a 300:1 final ratio for his 88" rock crawler.

Arthur Maravelis wrote:

> Greetings,
> Bill, I emailed Steve Parker a while ago about this very issue. I was told
> firsthand that the bolt patterns are different. I was also told that they
> had a customer in S.C. who was adapting their adaptor to fit an American
> Ford V6. They never told me his name and I dropped the whole thing as I
> decided to go with a Chevy 350 and a GM 4-spd and transfer.
> Art
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
> Boston, MA
> USA

--
Winn Bearden
P.O. Box 464
Americus, GA 31709
912-924-6513 (H)
912-928-4984 (CELL)

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From: TBache9248@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:59:50 EDT
Subject: LRX

Hi all,
I must really be behind.  I just looked up the LRX and it seems to be frozen
in April?  Did it move or cease?

Tom Bache

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:23:49 -0700
Subject: Re: LRX

Another place with Rovers for sale is:  http://www.roverlandusa.com  
They seem to have quite a few for sale. I can't say anything for their
reputation as I have never delt with them.

Jim Hall

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:42:24 -0700
Subject: Re: LRX

My mistake. The address is:
http://www.roverland.com   although roverlandusa.com does have a few for
sale in their classifieds.

Jim Hall

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:10:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Michelin

My reason for looking at the XZL`s is for my 101, hence the 900 x 16. These 
tires
have an outside dia. of 36.8" compared to the bar grips at ~34" Finding new 
shoes
for the 101 does not provide too many choices. National have one at 305/85 but
they are a relatively soft tire and wear more rapidly than a Michelin.Does 
anybody
have any experience with the Petlas.that Mr. Craddock advertises? George Bull 
has
1100 x 16 XCL`s on his but they are as rare as rocking horse droppings. The
Continentals also wear rapidly The search continues.

Frankelson@aol.com wrote:

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From: Brian Cramer <defender@uscom.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:05:53 -0400
Subject: Re: LRX

Hi Tom,

Try:  http://www.lrx.com/listings/index.cgi?x=121&y=9

Brian

At 09:59 PM 8/12/98 , you wrote:

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From: sarah harwood <sarah.harwood@gecm.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:33:37 +0100
Subject: AMD in MerryLees in UK - Fax No

Alan Richer,

The fax number for AMD (for uk dialling) is:-

01530  230046

I have visited there outlet several times and find them a really useful
set of people.

Sarah
Series IIA

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:31:13 +0100

Some LR 90 and 110 wheel rims are tubed tyres but most I have seen have the
ridge in them for the bead. So it is worth checking. I AM SURE THAT SOME
KIND PERSON WILL HAVE THE RIM NUMBERS OF THE RIMS THAT WILL TAKE TUBE LESS
TYRES.  Oh pooh hit the shift lock.  Also some times you can feel a slight
ripple on the outside of a tube less rim.

Have a very nice day.
Regards 
Richard
3 Land Rovers and many "odd" bits

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