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From: robot1@juno.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:49:50 -0700
Subject: Border collies and Land-Rovers

As my 109 is under long-term reconstruction, my Border Collie, Patch, has
adopted it as her doghouse. She spends a lot of time catching and eating
the bees that nest in it's rear crossmember. She also growls if I get to
close to it, or too violent in my repairs. Apparently they are not only
from the same genetic pool, but they also regularly pee in it.

Obstinacy and obtuseness exactly describe the breed. BC's, like Rovers,
seem to do your bidding only after an endless baragge of cajoling,
screaming, begging, whining, and repeated kicking and beating.(Just
kidding, I never beat my Rover)(nor my dog, before I start a flame war)

M.

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:04:48 +1000
Subject: don't nick that tyre (Tire)

Luis Manuel Gutierrez wrote:
>Ron, I stand corrected, As it seems they are not called shepards,
>they are called cattledogs, and to be more specific, its a Blue Heeler.

Yup.  That's their nickname.  That's also the nickname given to police - in
fact there is a police TV series down here called "Blue Heelers"

>You're right about cats. They are takers, as a pet they dont give
>you anything back. Dogs are your friends.

True.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:14:19 +1000
Subject: Driving - Jousting - Sides (No LR)

David Walker wrote:

<the wheel is more important than the signals, that is why the
<signal lever is on the left (some French cars are the exception
< - go figure).

When I bought my Rangie, I kept swicthing on the windscreen wipers.  Aussie
cars have the blinker switch on the right - the Rangie has it on the left.
Now when I get into my wife's Toyota, I keep switching on her windscreen
wipers (they are on the left).

<What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even
<relatively modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside.
<Call me paranoid, but in an emergency, the outside doors of
<a public building should have to open outwards (the do in the
<US and Canada, by law)

Emergency exits open outward in Australia as do many other doors in public
buildings.  Some open both ways.

What annoys me is that toilet doors (not those on the cubicles) open
inwards.  I notice many people go to the toilet and don't wash their hands.
When they leave they pull the door open leaving their germs all over the
handle.  Noting most toilet washrooms only have hot air dryers and no paper
towelling, one can't use a piece of towelling to "insulate" one's hand from
the door handle when one opens it.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:57:24 +1000
Subject: Glo plugs

Michael Leys wrote:
<My 1979 2.25 diesel engine (in a 1951 80 inch) has started
<eating glo plugs when driven any distance.  Presumably things
<are getting too hot in the wrong places possibly because of a
<mixture/injector problem.>

I don't have a diesel and have little experience with them (except model
engines).  But the first thing I'd check is that the glow plug circuitry
isn't faulty and leaving the glow plugs powered up after the engine starts.

Regards,
Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'86 Range Rover 4.8L auto  "The Last Aquila"
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
check my web site at www.users.bigpond.com/hillman

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:30:19 +1000
Subject: Zebra Paint

I took some photos last Easter of a couple of LR in Zebra paint, one LWB
Series 1 and the other Disco.  Both belong to Graeme Cooper Automotive.

I could scan and mail to interested persons.

Ron

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From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 09:52:52 +0000
Subject: Generator Questions

I'm down to the troubleshooting (in the foot!) part of the job, and am
having trouble with the Generator.  Any other way to find out if it's
working than the method in the manuals?  I read that if you connect a
battery to the gen it should turn like a motor.   Mine does, but
slowly.  Should it spin fast?

Cheers, Ian

-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 09:54:23 +0000
Subject: Coil SW CB

The coil---sw, cb....Mine just has +ve and -ve on it.  Which is which? 
And does it matter if they are reversed?

Cheers, Ian
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: Jett.Hogger@prodigy.com (MR JOHN M ROSSI)
Date: Sat,  1 Aug 1998 10:16:09, -0500
Subject: Coil SW CB

Hello.   SW means Switch (key)  CB means Circuit Breaker (points)
If your vehical is Negitive ground.  + connects to the ingintion 
(white wire) and 
the (-) negitive connects to the distriubutor.  White wire with black 
 
john  flintstone, ga.

____
John  Rossi

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From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:09:03 -0500
Subject: Radiator replace or recore?  Keeping it cool!

In preparation for my new Turner, I took the radiator to my 59 II 109
into the shop.  It had seemingly been working fine.  I wanted to have it
cleaned, flushed, checked and painted.  After they clean it, they said
it was totally shot full of holes.  They said they could have it recored
with exactly the same core, same dimensions, 5 tube and repainted for
$300.00 USD (they would use the same top and bottom tanks)

I could by a replacement radiator (series II, 3 tube) for about the same
price as having my existing radiator reuilt with a 5 tube.  

What would you all recommend?

cwolfe

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:12:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Another question...

In message <bulk.18114.19980731184827@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Scott Wilson
<scott@scratchstudio.com> writes
>When you clean out your air filter, do you really use "clean fuel"
>meaning gasoline - like the manual says? any other methods for this... 
>-Scott

gasoline is by far one of the best degreasers in the world...ever!. I am a
plant fitter by trade and have a greaseater tank at work but I always clean
reusable filters with gasoline.
-- 
andy Smith
1965 ser 2a swb v8 
1971 ser 2a swb 2.25 petrol

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 01 Aug 98 10:55:55 MST
Subject: IIa head needed!!!

From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
Hello, I just found out that the head from my '71 IIa is bad.  I am looking
for a replacement head.  It doesn't have to be perfect, but must be
rebuildable.

PLEASE HELP!!!

Thanks, Dave Brown

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From: Scott Wilson <scott@scratchstudio.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 14:51:27 +0100
Subject: fuel pump stuf...

well... I managed to get it off with a well placed screwdriver and
a few good whaks with a hammer... 

BUT... why is the gasket between the square mount and the 
engine not part of the standard fuel pump rebuild kit... now I've
gotta wait aonother few days for a gasket... ughh...

-Scott

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From: James Howard <jhoward@sextans.lowell.edu>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 12:17:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: IIa head needed!!!

Dave, I have a spare SIII 8:1 CR head up here in Flagstaff that I will
give you a good deal on.

James

On 1 Aug 1998 debrown@srp.gov wrote:

> From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov
>        PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
>                                     Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
> Hello, I just found out that the head from my '71 IIa is bad.  I am looking
> for a replacement head.  It doesn't have to be perfect, but must be
> rebuildable.
> PLEASE HELP!!!
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>  away.            -annonymous  __\ _  | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
>                                O---O  "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:23:41 -0300
Subject: Re: Sorry to talk about rover stuff, but...

Scott Wilson wrote:
> Sorry to break up the fun... and I know I'm gonna be the only one
> on the list this weekend, so my email will get ignored as usual,
> but I having considerable problems getting my fuel pump off of my
> 73 SIII 88"
> In general, there is a lot of "farmer John" in this rover... and boy
> did he think he was clever... So my restoration so far has consisted
> of undoing most of his doing...
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> thanks.
> Scott

 If you look closely you will find that the fuel pump is held on with
just two nuts on the right side of the engine. Remove these and tap
gently with a small hammer if this does not move it hit it very hard
with a large hammer and if it breaks so what you wanted a new one any
way, right? 
  What is so wrong with electric fuel pumps anyway Series 1 and 6
cylinder series 2 & 3 all had em.
     Farmer John  (and Muddy)

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:29:12 -0300
Subject: Re: Sorry to talk about rover stuff, but...

Scott Wilson wrote:
> >  Just to make sure, there were six bolts that you pulled out, Right? You
> > mentioned about degreaser and I wondered about a thick coating of gunk maybe
> > hiding something.
> six? nope I remember four - maybe a couple were gone before I started?...
> there were two others that I could see through a
> thick layer of the blackest thickest layer of gunk I've ever seen... but those
> were the two that hold the pump to the square metal block... the other four
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> Although, I'm also replacing that this weekend....
> -Scott
The 2 nuts that hold the pump on are attached to studs so that if the
the nut turns the stud both will turn out. You do not have to remove the 
engine side cover.
 If you don't know about stud and other such fastners you had better get
some help with your project.
    John and Muddy

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:30:55 -0300
Subject: Re: fuel pump stuf...

Scott Wilson wrote:
> well... I managed to get it off with a well placed screwdriver and
> a few good whaks with a hammer...
> BUT... why is the gasket between the square mount and the
> engine not part of the standard fuel pump rebuild kit... now I've
> gotta wait aonother few days for a gasket... ughh...
> -Scott

 because you didn't need to remove it in the first place. DUH
       Farmer John

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:35:43 -0300
Subject: Re: Misfiring Diesel 2.25

Lawrence Lee wrote:
> Hello listers,
> My friend is not subscribed to the list and had asked me to check from
> your collective wisdom.
> His 2.25 diesel has a habit of misfiring at higher revs. There is
> plenty of torque and compression is good (rebuilt it completely
> 10,000km ago).

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> Land Rover SerIII 109, 2.6l   "Kerbau"
> A Malay name for Water Buffalo. One that PREFERS to stay in mud.
 Just a thought. When were the fuel filters last changed. This sounds a
bit like fuel starvation and is hard on the injector pump.
    John and Muddy

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:40:48 -0300
Subject: Re: Noisy tappets on 2.25L petrol

Piet Fourie : pah@saao.ac.za wrote:
> I have s SI SWB with a 2.25L petrol engine.  The engine performs very
> well with only one small worry.  The tappets make quite a bit a racket.
> I have checked the clearance and that is ok.  Any suggestion what could
> be the problem.
> Many thanks
> Piet Fourie

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> P.O. Box 25 Sutherland 6920 South Africa.
> Tel 023 5711135. Fax 023 5711413
 Land Rover tappets usually are a bit noisy but as the engine ages the
underside of the rocker pad get a groove from the valve stem and this
makes it hard to be accurate with the feeler gauge.
    John and muddy

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:40:38 EDT
Subject: Washed out rag top

Can anyone advise me on how to re-colour my rag top. It does not leak but is
looking realy scruffy due to the colour being washed out. 
It was originaly a genuine army top in NATO green, and a I would like to
return it to NATO green.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
+ Rolling RR chassis (awaiting the right body)

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:40:40 EDT
Subject: D90 line drawing wanted

Does anyone have a line drawing of a D90 they could email me. An aquaintance
of mine crafts wooden models (mostly of aircraft) and has been asked to craft
a scale model of a D90. He does not require great detail, idealy a side, front
and rear elevation, but any one of the three would help. If anyone can help
please email me direct.

I have line drawings of a Lightweight if anyone would like them I can email
them to you.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
+ Rolling RR chassis (awaiting the right body)

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:50:03 -0300
Subject: Re: D90 line drawing wanted

MRogers315@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone have a line drawing of a D90 they could email me. An aquaintance
> of mine crafts wooden models (mostly of aircraft) and has been asked to craft
> a scale model of a D90. He does not require great detail, idealy a side, front
> and rear elevation, but any one of the three would help. If anyone can help
> please email me direct.
> I have line drawings of a Lightweight if anyone would like them I can email
> them to you.
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> Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
> + Rolling RR chassis (awaiting the right body)
 send for the Rovers North catalogue it has some marvelous drawings by
Myles Murphy. The man has incredible talent, pity about his personality.
    John

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From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:55:26 +0100
Subject:       Re: Glo plugs

As far as I know, when a diesel starts eating glow plugs it is having 
a timing problem, (don't know to soon or to late ) but do check your 
timing!!!!

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 14:28:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Washed out rag top

>Can anyone advise me on how to re-colour my rag top. It does not leak

The last part of this is the bit you should be most conserned with...."it
does not leak...."
leave it alone, you'll be happy you did.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: Scott Wilson <scott@scratchstudio.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:53:14 +0100
Subject: RE: fuel pump stuf...

 > because you didn't need to remove it in the first place. DUH
 
DUH? I didn't know that I didn't need to take it off until after I got 
it apart and realized how it all went together... the manual showed
everything taken apart, so I took it apart... But anyway... next time
I rebuild the punp, I'll know...

I have another question, though... Those damn valves. I'm about 
to heat up the pump so that I can get the new valves back in
there... I guess that's done by throwing it in an oven... or at least
that's how I'm gonna try it... not sure how hot to get it to get it
to expand enough... but hey... what the hell... flying by the seat
of my pants has worked pretty well so far...

-Scott

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From: Scott Wilson <scott@scratchstudio.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:01:47 +0100
Subject: RE: Sorry to talk about rover stuff, but...

> You do not have to remove the 
> engine side cover.
Yeah... I know this now...

> If you don't know about stud and other such fastners you had better get
> some help with your project.
Well, I've only met a few people here and there, and everyone's nice, but
whenever I ask for some help or other info, I get that newbie syndrome... 
But that's fine... I'm probably the same way as far as computers go... 
There's tons of community among people who know what they are 
doing, but people just getting in to the social circle have a little harder
getting in and proving some worth... (any group dynamics psycologists
here?)

Sorry about the farmer john comment earlier... I suppose there are a few
farmers on this list named john, or just a few farmers, but it you saw what 
this rover looked like on the inside... well let's just say that he took the
"duct tape and baling wire" theory a little far... That stuff is fine if you 
are 
fixing something enough to make it home, but when you get home,
usually you want to fix it right... (maybe that's just me?) And he was
a farmer - so the comment is not toally unfounded =:)

later...

-Scott

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 19:22:24 -0300
Subject: Re: fuel pump stuf...

Scott Wilson wrote:
>  > because you didn't need to remove it in the first place. DUH
> DUH? I didn't know that I didn't need to take it off until after I got
> it apart and realized how it all went together... the manual showed
> everything taken apart, so I took it apart... But anyway... next time
> I rebuild the punp, I'll know...
> I have another question, though... Those damn valves. I'm about

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> of my pants has worked pretty well so far...
> -Scott

usually the valves are snug fit inthe recess that the old ones came
from. To retain them you sort of burr the edge of the hole over in 3
places. A pin punch is the tool of preference. Do remember to get the
valves the right way in!
    John and Muddy

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 19:37:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Border collies and Land-Rovers

Border Collies are simple.  Once they decide what their job in life is, they
pursue it with full abandon.  My family has had several since the early 70s
and if you could get them to choose a beneficial job things were great.  If
they chose a job which was not uniformly percieved as helpful then problems
ensued.  Examples, one dog decided that herding sheep was the proper activity
for BCs, all was well and he became State champion at this activity here in
California.  Another decided that chasing balls was the proper activity and
would leave a sheepherding competition to chase a ball near the course.  The
only LR content is that they would escape from the backyard and sit in
whatever vehicle I was working on in the front yard rather than running away.
Wish I'd had a Land Rover then.

Zack Arbios
67 88" SW Safari
87 RR Perfect Cond
88 RR bent on top. but getting better

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:24:09 +1000
Subject: Australian Shepherds

Hank Rutherford wrote:

> Australian Shepherds (Aussies) are a real breed, bred for herding
>sheep and cattle in the southwestern US. The sheep were know as
>"Australians" hence the name.

Ah that explains it all.  "Australian Shepherd" is an American name.  They
certainly aren't called that in Australia.  "strange colored eyes" - sounds
like the kelpie which is a sheepdog originally bred from a Scottish collie
(according to my Readers Digest Oxford Complete Wordfinder).

Oh, I forgot there is another Aussie dog - the Australian terrier.

Ron

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From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:05:20 -0500
Subject: Zebra from Iceland

Somebody asked for a picture of the zebra-striped Land Rover that belongs
to the student outing club at the University of Iceland. I now have some
JPEG photos of it ready to send upon request. Give me your email address
and I will send it as an attachment.

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