1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: "Giles Warham" <giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:02:21 +0100 Subject: Re: Overdrive advice pls I have an overdrive on my S3 109 - It was very well worn when I got it, and I haven't re-built it yet - but apart from the wining sound at certain speeds it is excellent. My LR is fitted with standard 750x16 tyres Superwinch (originally Fairey) in Tavistock (near where I live) are excellent about providing O/D spares. They will send you a parts diagram, and supply any parts you need. I will be re-building my O/D in the next couple of years. Re: if its worth it - Here in Devon the hills tend to mean that my O/D doesn't get a large amount of use - but it can be used in such a way to assist getting up some hills - e.g. 3rd gear Overdrive (up to 50 mph without too much effort). Its not recommended to drive it hard in less than 3rd gear - but it can be done. If not abused, it should last more than 40K miles - I would have thought it would last as long as the rest of the gearbox really. Hope that helps... Giles... ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Lodelane@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 07:36:50 EDT Subject: FS 1966 88 FFR Posting for a non-net friend. 1966 Ex-MOD 88 24V FFR. In need of TLC. Has standard hardtop as well as canvas top. Needs right door post and footwell as well as some general maintenance. Good daily driver. Located in Richmond, VA. $3500.00 USD E-mail me direct please. Larry Smith Chester, VA ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Michael Leys" <mike_rover@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:47:58 PDT Subject: Glo plugs G'day 1. My 1979 2.25 diesel engine (in a 1951 80 inch) has started eating glo plugs when driven any distance. Presumably things are getting too hot in the wrong places possibly because of a mixture/injector problem. 2. The transmission has developed a growl under no load conditions. Any ideas? Thanks Michael ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:18:36 +0100 Subject: On the road again! The last six months of evenings and weekends spent in the garage have all been worthwhile. The Safari passed its MOT first time. After driving on the road for the last couple of days, the most amazing aspect is the improvement in ride due to new springs and dampers all round. It now sort of rolls over the speed humps on the roads round the Uni instead of jumping and clanging, and I no longer notice every little matchstick I drive over in the road. The seats are now leather ones out of an XJ6 Jaguar but there is still a lot of work to be done inside to do them justice. Thanks to everyone on the list for helping to maintain my enthusiasm during this time. Mick Forster 1972 109" Safari 2.25 petrol 1963 88" IIA 2.25 petrol Very sad Metro :-( http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html http://members.aol.com/Tony4star/ http://stox49.soc.staffs.ac.uk/www49/landys/LWBrst/LWBrst.html (Details will appear as time allows, should be more of that now!) ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:07:33 +0000 Subject: Re: On the road again! >lot of work to be done inside to do them justice. <Gasp!!> NOT a wooden dashboard Mick.......??? Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JKwas61947@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:20:50 EDT Subject: Re: Side of the road I've always wondered why single seat race cars have the gear shift on the right, even British racecars.....hmmmm ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:25:35 +0100 Subject: Re: Side of the road 'cos the best race drivers are left-handed?? Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) JKwas61947@aol.com on 07/30/98 02:20:50 PM Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC) Subject: Re: Side of the road I've always wondered why single seat race cars have the gear shift on the right, even British racecars.....hmmmm ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:34:24 +0100
Subject: So long - and thanks for all the fish
Well, okay, I still don't have the Visa in my hand, but it looks like my
move will be less than two weeks away,
so I'm closing listservers down and the like...
Its been grand in the list, and well, if anyone in the Houston-ish area
needs a hand with their Series truck
- gearbox pulling, beer drinking, etc, I'm sure I could be persuaded to
give a hand! :-)
Or any trips in Texas, I'm sure I could come along as ballast, official
'Net photographer, or something, or perhaps learn how off-roading is really
done...
Don't have any phone numbers yet - and they're going to change within 6
weeks of me arriving anyway,
but I can be got on:
redbaron@cix.co.uk ('home')
richard_marsden@veritasdgc.com - official global external
address
marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk - should forward
(Veritas are located on Kirby - West Texas, just within the Loop, if that
means anything to anyone)
The truck is going to stay up at my parents, so if my father has any
problems, I'll point him towards the lists (my guess is he'd go for CIX,
followed by the UK list).
So, I resign the list (boohoo) sometime tomorrow, and probably hang on to
the UK list until next week...
Fairwell!
Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR that's going to earn its keep, shifting my
belongings around the England in the
next week)
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][digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ] From: "Peter Howard" <rover@mackay.net.au> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:55:55 +1000 Subject: Re: Volts wagon charset="iso-8859-1" In a message of 29 July, Bill of Albuquerque wondered if his = "overheating" problem and lying fuel gauge could be traced to a faulty = instrument voltage regulator. I agree with other correspondents that = regulator could be faulty and concur with method of checking that volts = at regulator output are 10. I'd like to point out though that there = isn't any silicon in those little Smiths instrument regulators. They = contain a bimetallic strip with a heating coil wound round it. Coil = heats, strip bends, contact points open, current stops flowing, coil and = strip cool, points close, coil heats, strip bends and so on many times a = second. And the result of this furious activity is that the average = voltage at the output is 10 volts. Wonderful pre solid state era = electrical engineering, though some would use adjectives other than = wonderful. When I discovered that the Smiths regulator in my rebuild = project was shot, I baulked at paying $A45 for a new example of these = little masterpieces. Instead, I paid $8.50 for a kit form variable = voltage regulator put out by an Australian electronics hobby chain and = assembled it in a small plastic "zippy box". These are made for = powering small electronic projects and use a common type of variable = three terminal voltage regulator chip. Preset it to 10 volts, mounted = box behind instrument panel using Velcro and contact cement and have had = no trouble since. Some say that the Smiths bimetal strip device has = inherent compensation for varying ambient temperatures and that the = voltage out of a simple electronic regulator will drift as the = temperature changes. However I haven't noticed this myself though I = tried an experiment with a heat gun. The problem of regulator drifting = higher than 10 volts is that the instruments attached will then read = higher which is exactly what Bill has been complaining of. If anyones = interested in the name of the hobby store chain and the part number of = the kit, e-mail me direct. Regards to all, Peter H rover@mackay.net.au QLD Australia. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDBC15.972EBE40 [ Original post was HTML ] [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: text/html; ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Stude, Herman L." <hermans@krts.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:50:58 -0500 Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish Richard Marsden wrote: > (Veritas are located on Kirby - West Texas, just within the Loop, if that > means anything to anyone) Would that be Veritas DGC, Inc. on Kirby Drive. That would be in Houston just North of South Loop 610. Emaill me directly. I'm in Houston and need to drink beer and talk rovers. Best, Herman ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:55:40 +0100
Subject: Re: Volts wagon
I thought 3 pin regulators had good thermal compensation.
Far superior to the accuracy of the gauges & senders, anyway!!!!
Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR, with a 7812 + 2x 10v Zeners for the same
effect)
"Peter Howard" <rover@mackay.net.au> on 07/30/98 02:55:55 PM
Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com
cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)
Subject: Re: Volts wagon
In a message of 29 July, Bill of Albuquerque wondered if his =
"overheating" problem and lying fuel gauge could be traced to a faulty =
instrument voltage regulator. I agree with other correspondents that =
regulator could be faulty and concur with method of checking that volts =
at regulator output are 10. I'd like to point out though that there =
isn't any silicon in those little Smiths instrument regulators. They =
contain a bimetallic strip with a heating coil wound round it. Coil =
heats, strip bends, contact points open, current stops flowing, coil and =
strip cool, points close, coil heats, strip bends and so on many times a =
second. And the result of this furious activity is that the average =
voltage at the output is 10 volts. Wonderful pre solid state era =
electrical engineering, though some would use adjectives other than =
wonderful. When I discovered that the Smiths regulator in my rebuild =
project was shot, I baulked at paying $A45 for a new example of these =
little masterpieces. Instead, I paid $8.50 for a kit form variable =
voltage regulator put out by an Australian electronics hobby chain and =
assembled it in a small plastic "zippy box". These are made for =
powering small electronic projects and use a common type of variable =
three terminal voltage regulator chip. Preset it to 10 volts, mounted =
box behind instrument panel using Velcro and contact cement and have had =
no trouble since. Some say that the Smiths bimetal strip device has =
inherent compensation for varying ambient temperatures and that the =
voltage out of a simple electronic regulator will drift as the =
temperature changes. However I haven't noticed this myself though I =
tried an experiment with a heat gun. The problem of regulator drifting =
higher than 10 volts is that the instruments attached will then read =
higher which is exactly what Bill has been complaining of. If anyones =
interested in the name of the hobby store chain and the part number of =
the kit, e-mail me direct.
Regards to all,
Peter H
rover@mackay.net.au
QLD
Australia.
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]From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:03:09 +0100 Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish Ooops, I meant "West Houston", and not "West Texas", of course!! :-) Yep, that's the one. Very near the Southwest Freeway. Yep okay, I'll email you when I get over there .... Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) "Stude, Herman L." <hermans@krts.com> on 07/30/98 02:50:58 PM Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC) Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish Richard Marsden wrote: > (Veritas are located on Kirby - West Texas, just within the Loop, if that > means anything to anyone) Would that be Veritas DGC, Inc. on Kirby Drive. That would be in Houston just North of South Loop 610. Emaill me directly. I'm in Houston and need to drink beer and talk rovers. Best, Herman ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:11:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Side of the road Richard Marsden wrote: > 'cos the best race drivers are left-handed?? > Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) > JKwas61947@aol.com on 07/30/98 02:20:50 PM > Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)] > I've always wondered why single seat race cars have the gear shift on the > right, even British racecars.....hmmmm Whoa! Now there's a scary thought... Given that left-handed people are right-brain dominant, that would mean that guys driving real fast do so better when thinking abstract thoughts??? Regards Paul Oxley http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za http://Adventures.co.za http://AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:26:10 -0500 Subject: RE: don't nick that tyre (Tire) Ron, I stand corrected, As it seems they are not called shepards, they are called cattledogs, and to be more specific, its a Blue Heeler. I have a scanner, what I dont have is a picture of the dog. :-( You're right about cats. They are takers, as a pet they dont give you anything back. Dogs are your friends. Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A. E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr Tel: (506) 296 2743 Fax: (506) 296 2744 -----Mensaje original----- De: The Becketts <hillman@bigpond.com> Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com> Fecha: Jueves 30 de Julio de 1998 12:30 AM Asunto: don't nick that tyre (Tire) >Luis Manuel Gutierrez wrote: >>The problem I have with dogs is that I cant get them into a car. >>The last two I have had would prefer to get hit by one rather >>than coming into it. a sweet Belgian Shepard and a paranoic >>Australian Shepard) >I can't keep my Labrador out. He's a pain in the bum when I'm trying to >work in the back - he wants to help. [ truncated by list-digester (was 27 lines)] >the list. >Ron ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:23:38 +0200 Subject: Re: Side of the road Paul Oxley wrote: > Richard Marsden wrote: > > 'cos the best race drivers are left-handed?? > > Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 23 lines)] > Whoa! Now there's a scary thought... > Given that left-handed people are right-brain dominant, that would mean [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)] > http://Adventures.co.za > http://AfricanAdrenalin.com Or maybe it has to do with the interconnectedness of all things, Richard? Regards Paul Oxley http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za http://Adventures.co.za http://AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:33:49 -0500 Subject: RE: Side of the road > I've always wondered why single seat race cars have the gear shift on the >right, even British racecars.....hmmmm As they say, inside every problem there is the seed of the solution. Any clue? Maybe the British, deep inside, are also "right". :-) Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A. E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr Tel: (506) 296 2743 Fax: (506) 296 2744 ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Duchanin&Greene" <P1301@mail.aai.arco.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:56:44 -0900 Subject: re: crank seal Check out Alan Richer's article in Ottowa Valley Land Rover club's website. You might be able to do it with a right angle drill but you also have to tap in new threads. I did mine with the engine out. ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:21:39 -0700 Subject: Driving - Jousting - Sides Shifting - the right hand was chosen for shifting because the bulk of the race car drivers were right handed - shifting required more coordination than the hand on the wheel. The pedals are also set up on vehicles based on right footedness - from the pedal used most often on the furthest right to the one used least often on the left. Dash controls are similar - the wheel is more important than the signals, that is why the signal lever is on the left (some French cars are the exception - go figure). Someone out there - If I remember history correct, the right hand drive in England was based on the side of the lane that people had been walking since medieval times. People walked and rode on the right side of the lane so that their shield would be closest to the other person. You can also see this in jousting - the riders ride on the right so that they are shield to shield and hold the jousting lance in their right arm. The right sidedness of the lanes was in strong effect even when the invention of the automobile came along. Horses and farm wagons were on the right when the lanes were wide enough. What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even relatively modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside. Call me paranoid, but in an emergency, the outside doors of a public building should have to open outwards (the do in the US and Canada, by law) The British had long taken advantage of this right sidedness, using it in military tactics, combat formations, in addition to driving. Of interest, most all the original colonies were also right handed in their driving - with notable exception of Canada - had nothing to do with the US, everything to do with the French. This is also the reason why the scarbard of 'real' swords is on the left - shield protects hand while drawing cross body. History, is how we got from there to here, with some sense of order. Cheers David Full-time father of a 3.5 year old 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch - our home wahooadv@earthlink.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:28:35 +0100 Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides !Someone out there - If I remember history correct, the right hand drive in !England was based on the side of the lane that people had been walking since !medieval times. People walked and rode on the right side of the lane so that !their shield would be closest to the other person. You can also see this in !jousting - the riders ride on the right so that they are shield to shield !and hold the jousting lance in their right arm. !The right sidedness of the lanes was in strong effect even when the !invention of the automobile came along. Horses and farm wagons were on the !right when the lanes were wide enough. Except we drive on the left!! Yes, I heard it was to with knights. !What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even relatively !modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside. Call me paranoid, but !in an emergency, the outside doors of a public building should have to open !outwards (the do in the US and Canada, by law) Since at least 1980, building regulations in the UK require new buildings to have doors to be outward, and away from the kitchen,etc. Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:49:27 +0000 Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides Shifting - the right hand was chosen for shifting because the bulk of the >race car drivers were right handed - shifting required more coordination >than the hand on the wheel. F1 cars have the gears on the steering wheel.Aircraft have RH sidesticks now.Nothing to do with which side you drive on,just that most people are right handed. The pedals are also set up on vehicles based on >right footedness - from the pedal used most often on the furthest right to >the one used least often on the left. This is fairly recent.I can remember my father borrowing a 30's Morris 10/4 with the throttle pedal in the middle.The vintage Bentley was the same. Dash controls are similar - the wheel >is more important than the signals, that is why the signal lever is on the >left (some French cars are the exception - go figure).So is the S11A Land Rover.Mine has the signal lever on the right of the column. >is more important than the signals, that is why the signal lever is on the People walked and rode on the right side of the lane so that >their shield would be closest to the other person. Surely you mean the LHS of the lane? This kept the sword arm of a right handed person free if attacked.And this being so,horses were mounted from the left,off the sidewalk/pavement.Bit awkward getting on a horse from the other side,with your scabbard getting in the way. Could be painful..... What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even relatively >modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside. The University building I'm in right now has its outer doors opening outwards.I suppose you could say that if the door is a solid one,with no glass in it,incomers would perhaps get smacked in the chops every time anyone came out of it.Mind you,the reverse would also be true.Its not universal,by any means. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:08:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides
David wrote:
>>> What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even relatively
modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside. Call me paranoid, but
in an emergency, the outside doors of a public building should have to open
outwards (the do in the US and Canada, by law) >>>
It deppendus upon what the purpose of a door is. Doors opening
outwards is great for safety, but is poor for barracading. Inwardly opening
doors are easy to barrade and defend. For how many centuries was this feature
important in Europe?
Also look at your standard spiral staircase -- the proper ones
spiral clockwise while going up. This is beacuse they are defensive in
nature. The clockwise spin pins the attackers sword arm against the
central pillor while the defender has a free sword arm to wack the guy
below.
Ben
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-Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie
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]From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:13:42 +0100 Subject: Crankcase Pressure I have got a slight knocking sound from my Diesel swb s3, The local Landie place suggest that it is not firing correctly on one cylinder. the have suggested tappets, injectors or compression. The first two have been checked but I have no way of doing a compression test. My Diesel Engine book states an alternative test to measure blow-by and that is crank case pressure, the theory is that any loss of compression in the cylinders will give rise to a higher crankcase pressure. This can be measured using a manometer. Does any one know the correct readings for a heathy engine? Martin Lough Frank W. Murphy Ltd Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext. 245) Fax: +44 1722 410088 Email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk Visit our website at: http://www.fwmurphy.co.uk ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Joel Baskin <joebas@symix.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:32:55 -0400 Subject: RE: Driving - Jousting - Sides Hello, Theories of Right-Hand Steering 101 If I have this straight, cars drive on the right hand side of the road because knights' shields were on the left side (against oncoming traffic)? So the driver needs to sit on the left to see oncoming traffic, and the stick shift nicely goes right above the transmission. What happened in Britain? Maybe, original stick shifts, the really huge ones you see on ancient cars for increased leverage, were so big they came up the right side of the chassis, which were one seaters anyway. Right arm was stronger. To put a second person in meant they sat on the left side. The driver, being on the right, needed to drive on the left-hand side of the road to see oncoming traffic. Voila! Does this make sense yet or do I need more beer? (or ale, warm or cold, make it strong!) About doors: Doors that open out may be easier to defend because the oncoming attacker has to stop to open the door. Also, you see recessed doorways in shops so that the opening door doesn't hit passers-by. Joel Baskin (no, I didn't break the server) 1966 SIIa ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:52:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Side of the road
In a message dated 30/07/98 10:06:51 BST, you write:
<< All of which are exceeded by the number who drive down the middle...:-) >>
On Malta there was a song which had a line about 'driving in the shade' which
went a long way to explaining things.....
Best Cheers
Frank
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]From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:09:12 -0700 Subject: Sides Thank you for reminding me about the doors and the staircases - I remember them now - do you know why the doors were short and there was often a 'tunnel' on the inside of the door then opened into the room? Sword swinging Naively, I thought I might clarify things with the shield info........Do postal vehicles in Britain have left hand drive :-) Cheers David Full-time father of a 3.5 year old 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch - our home wahooadv@earthlink.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Michael Johnson" <johnsonm@borg.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:10:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides -What I would like to know is why doors on public buildings, even relatively -modern ones all through Britain, open to the inside. Call me paranoid, but -in an emergency, the outside doors of a public building should have to open -outwards (the do in the US and Canada, by law) I was visiting some folks in the town of Tunstel ?sp? Suffolk UK, when I opened the door (inward) and stepped out I was almost hit by a car. It was no more than 2ft away from the brickfront building... I wonder if thats where Dutch Kitchen doors got started.... Mike Johnson 74 SIII 88 (Chester) 96 Disco ( Her's ) http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:49:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides
So why was it that the first Land Rover had the steering wheel in the
center
was Mr Maurice Wilks half British & half French ?
what did he do when exiting the vehicle?
climb out over the windscreen?
exit right or left depending on traffic?
Rgds
Steve Bradke 68 lla 88
96 Discovery
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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:59:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides
Steve Bradke asked:
> So why was it that the first Land Rover had the steering wheel in the
> center
> was Mr Maurice Wilks half British & half French ?
I've heard two explinations:
1. Rover didn't want to make LHD and RHD versions as first and thought that
a center sterr could be sold in all markets.
2. They were originally thinking of the LR as more of tractor. Center steer
was thought to be easier when using your Land-Rover when plowing.
Needless to say, by the time HUE 166 (pre-production chassis #1)
came out they had scrapped the idea of centre steer.
Ben
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-Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie
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]From: asfco <asfco@banet.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:35:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides Benjamin Smith wrote: > 1. Rover didn't want to make LHD and RHD versions as first and thought that > a center sterr could be sold in all markets. > 2. They were originally thinking of the LR as more of tractor. Center steer > was thought to be easier when using your Land-Rover when plowing. > Needless to say, by the time HUE 166 (pre-production chassis #1) [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] > Ben >I have heard of these things as well... I just wanted to know how he chose to exit the Land Rover Rgds Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: RE: Driving - Jousting - Sides -----Mensaje original----- De: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com> Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com> Fecha: Jueves 30 de Julio de 1998 12:01 PM Asunto: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides >Steve Bradke asked: >> So why was it that the first Land Rover had the steering wheel in the >> center >> was Mr Maurice Wilks half British & half French ? Must have been simply a legacy from the early j**ps. Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A. E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr Tel: (506) 296 2743 Fax: (506) 296 2744 ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:21:31 EDT Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides Interesting, but perhaps 2% maximum of the early British population had shields at all so I guess this side of the road thing is another case of the rich opressing the serfs. But relative to doors opening out for exit, only occupant loads of greater than fifty need open in the direction of exit travel. This gets complicated fast, but it does keep me in beans. Zack Arbios ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:35:58 EDT Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides Maurice Wilks was in the throes of Tractor Appreciation and greedily underestimated the need for farmers to sit in the same vehicle at the end of the day that they had spent all day plowing in. As cheap as farmers need ot be based on an industrial versus agrarian economic reality, shortly after their economic status rises above starvation (not common) they immediately go for the luxury of getting into a pickup of some description and travel to where they can drink warmish or coldish beer. Noting that fact he then provided wheels on alternate sides, for whichever the client wanted to buy. Serve the client, the original LR concept, now altered by many dealerships. Zack Arbios ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:33:16 EDT
Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish
Richard,
stay on this list, there's some of us Limeys take a look. Tell us your
adventures..
have a safe journey...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:33:21 EDT
Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides
In a message dated 30/07/98 17:41:06 BST, you write:
<< Does this make sense yet or do I need more beer? >>
doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, of COURSE you need more beer. You are
awake after all.
Best Cheers
Frank
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]From: JKwas61947@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:53:34 EDT Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides "F1 cars have the gear change on the steering wheel..." Is it coincidence that this started back when Senna was King? He drove staight down the middle (never mind what might be in the way) Following this analogy a little further, Damon Hill must have gear shift levers all over the damn car... ROVER CONTENT: I drove my Rover to the Canada F1 in Montreal ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:51:55 -0500 Subject: RE: So long - and thanks for all the fish Have a safe trip, and come back soon! That is the cliché phrase, but it had to be said. I'm sure you will quickly find your way back to the list. It grows in you like a habit. We'll be waiting. :-) Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A. E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr Tel: (506) 296 2743 Fax: (506) 296 2744 -----Mensaje original----- De: Richard Marsden <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com> Fecha: Jueves 30 de Julio de 1998 07:33 AM Asunto: So long - and thanks for all the fish >Well, okay, I still don't have the Visa in my hand, but it looks like my >move will be less than two weeks away, >so I'm closing listservers down and the like... >Its been grand in the list, and well, if anyone in the Houston-ish area >needs a hand with their Series truck >- gearbox pulling, beer drinking, etc, I'm sure I could be persuaded to [ truncated by list-digester (was 43 lines)] >belongings around the England in the >next week) ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Searle,Philip" <philip.searle@abbott.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:06:43 -0500 Subject: Re: LR parts and Bike Boxes. >I'm assuming that my to be purchased, new rear lift window frame will pack and travel just fine in an airline provided bicycle box with a little foam. Anyone have experience to the contrary -- or other travel/packaging suggestions for "awkward" sized, must have LR parts? Bike boxes are wonderful: I used two to package a Series bonnet that I bought back from Reno to Chicago. The Delta ticket agent didn't even blink and it didn't cost me anything either. I should have gone for the tropical roof too. Can't help you with the international travel advice,...no yet anyway. Visiting home (UK) this October and on that trip I'll aim for a Turner head, radiator, propshafts. The list is growing... Regards Phil Searle Grayslake, IL ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:07:59 EDT
Subject: Re: Driving - Jousting - Sides
In a message dated 30/07/98 18:51:03 BST, you write:
So why was it that the first Land Rover had the steering wheel in the
center
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it was supposed to be an agricultural vehicle, like a tractor.
Incidently, Tom 'Mr Land Rover' Barton told us why they didn't keep it on for
the production vehicles.... 'first road test we nearly got wiped
out'.............
Best Cheers
Frank
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]From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Scale Model Alert!! Ser.III-109 Just came back from Toy's-R-Us, looking to buy one thing but ending up with another... Found a Series III 109 5-door scale model by Heller, a French manufacturer, in the model paint section(!). This is probably because it comes complete with 4 jars of non-toxic paint, a brush, and tube of glue, all prominently displayed in clear plastic casing. The top says "Rapid Kit", and it was hanging together with several other similar packaged model kits such as a Citroen 2CV and other obscure vehicles. With some work on the front fenders and grille, this could even become a II or IIA. Price is $9.99, Scale 1/43, 29 pieces, Skill Level II (12+ years) which should cover MOST people on this list ;) -Michael Carradine Tel/Fax US 925-988-0900 www.landrover.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: IBEdwardp@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:05:39 EDT Subject: Re: paint/zebra - Ancient sighting In the mid-70's, I attended a presentation by a man whose name I believe was Palmer who marketed a large animal imobilization system he called the "Palmer Air Gun". It consisted of CO2 dart guns to chemically immobilize everything from rhinos to black bears. His promotional film which was as I recall made somewhere near Atlanta, Georgia, featured a fleet of zebra painted series Land-Rovers. Anyone ever heard of this guy and what became of him (or his Land-Rovers)? ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman Wing) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:35:11 -0400 Subject: Fenders! I am looking for either a right hand IIA fender(no headlight), or 2 later fenders. They don't have to be perfect, but I'd like them to be good enough to paint without a lot of repair work. I've tried the usual sources for used. Anyone have some lying around? Thanks, Braman ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman Wing) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:35:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Tweaking the 2.25 petrol >I have to put in the genuine camshaft again! Depends on the cam you have. It is possible that it does not give too much low end away, I don't know the specs on the various cams. >...Automotives peformance silencer, or another big bore? >Who supplies "headers" I had in fact 2 cracked outlet manifolds till now. I have a vague recollection that Pierce Manifolds in california makes them, but I'm not sure... >>Compression Ratio >>Raising the compression ratio will increase the torque across the entire >>rev range. >I prefer to stay with Turners 8:1 head due to the poor fuel quality in North >Africa. Sounds wise. >Probably Automotives kit keeping the genuine cam is what I need. >But I don' like the K&N airfilter because I probably would have to clean it >every day in the desert. Now I am using the std 2.5 Filter with a >Centrifugal MAN prefilter. You just have to poor out its sedimentation bowl >to clean the filter. >Does it make sense to use SUs with the standard inlet manifold? >Automotiv offers a 13/4" SU HS or HIF together with longer runners. I would definitely go with an SU carb. The kit sounds like it would work well, and although the SU may not add a lot of torque, it will feel like it due to the better throttle response. I haven't used a Zenith, so I don't know how they are, but in my experience, a variable venturi carb like the SU will beat any "normal" carb hands down. I ran some rough numbers today and it looks like with 3" manifold runners(stock) the tuning peak is between 4000 and 5000 rpm. You can only get so close with modelling, to get more precise than a thousand rpm or so, you'd have to dyno it. But it looks like the peak is well outside the normal rev range of the engine. Again, with FI, 1-2 foot runners would provide a big low end power boost, but probably not with a carburettor. So the longer runners of the Automotive manifold probably don't help significantly. They might be just long enough to give a boost in the 3-4000 range which would help them a lot in the peak power department. Cheers, Braman 1966 IIA 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CAPTPAYNE@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:41:19 EDT Subject: Re: bouncing mail yes, it is very annoying Don ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:21:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Tweaking the 2.25 petrol Braman Wing wrote: > >Who supplies "headers" I had in fact 2 cracked outlet manifolds till now. > I have a vague recollection that Pierce Manifolds in california makes them, > but I'm not sure... That's correct last I checked (3 years ago). I have a second hand set. Theydo hang a bit lower than the stock exhaust (an inch or two?), and so are a bit more prone to damage. > >But I don' like the K&N airfilter because I probably would have to clean it I will shortly be installing the ACM kit with the K&N but I'd seriously caution againstusing the K&N in dusty conditions unless you're going to clean in on a very frequent basis. Even then I'd be very uncomfortable (I just don't see how one can get better flow AND better filtration... seems counter productive). > I haven't used a Zenith, so I don't > know how they are, but in my experience, a variable venturi carb like the > SU will beat any "normal" carb hands down. The Zenith is OK when its working but it usually doesn't work very welldue to assorted leakages from poor body castings. I'm currently running a Zenith (from new) and while it gets me from place to place I don't really like it that much (the price was right though :) ). I'm looking forward to the SU. cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen David, >I have to ask you in all seriousness, were you following a LR? No. Not too many people on the road that night at all. >What year is your LR Peter? Its a 1965 Ex-MoD, RHD, Bronze Green, IIA 88. Now with new deer damage on the left wing and door - 50mphs! Ouch, I hope it was over quick for the deer! I'm really going to need that painting system soon! - I'm headed towards a TIP conversion gun BTW, since I am dead poor now! This will let me rent a compressor untill I can afford it - I bought a sandblaster kit from TIP for my corrosion repair - will need the compressor there too. I'll get back to you at some point next week about the timing. Briefly, I don't have a pointer, or a timing light. Some ar$e-ole put the "timing gear on backwards" Now I have to reverse all the wires 180 degrees!!! Can you believe that!! Cheers - talk to you later - I've got to get ready for GP - Peter Peter M. Kaskan Uris Hall 231 Office / 607-255-3382 Dept. Of Psychology Lab / 607-255-6396 Cornell University e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: jimfoo@uswest.net Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:59:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Tweaking 2.25 I just bought a header from Clifford Performance Products, also in California. the cost was $199 +s&h. Their phone is (714)7343310 although I think the area code was changed. Address is: PO Box 2620 2330 Pomona-Rincon Road Corona, CA 91720 Jim Hall Chilly Willy 1966 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:25:12 +0100
Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish
Well, it is unlikely I'll have a Rover over there, so its possible I won't
be around until I get back in 2yrs time!!!
See y'all!
Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR currently earning its keep)
Frankelson@aol.com on 07/30/98 11:33:16 PM
Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com
cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)
Subject: Re: So long - and thanks for all the fish
Richard,
stay on this list, there's some of us Limeys take a look. Tell us your
adventures..
have a safe journey...
Best Cheers
Frank
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