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1 Martin Lough [martin@fwm16Touble is, I now need a 1/4" male to 1/8 male BSP
2 Peter Goundry [peterg@ai29Re: MOD Land Rover markings, beer, and customs
3 RoverNut@aol.com 13Re: monocoque designs
4 RoverNut@aol.com 22Re: paint/zebra
5 RoverNut@aol.com 16Re: dime store puns
6 RoverNut@aol.com 17Re: meek
7 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l9Re: meek
8 RoverNut@aol.com 16Re:
9 RoverNut@aol.com 19Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
10 Jett.Hogger@prodigy.com 12Need Paint Code
11 RoverNut@aol.com 27Hello? Taste? I know you're in there! (no LR content)
12 Leger Marc-Andre [ma.leg28RE: paint/zebra
13 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 24RE: paint/zebra
14 nlamon@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.5O.K...Then what'a "coiless Rifle"...?
15 kerryscott@usa.net 11Inheritance
16 Leger Marc-Andre [ma.leg57RE: 1970 land rover -whats it worth?
17 John [jhong@flex.com> 24MOD Land Rover markings
18 Christian Neuhaus [chnw@6[not specified]
19 Christian Neuhaus [chnw@6[not specified]
20 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1156Uh Oh!!? (was Pulled my head off...)
21 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M12Re: Inheritance
22 "bill.di" [bill.di@mci2041Re: Volts wagon
23 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l30Re: Volts wagon
24 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l16Re: Volts wagon (one last bit)
25 Zaxcoinc@aol.com 22Re: Uh Oh!!? (was Pulled my head off...)
26 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1127Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop
27 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1118oil (?) spray on windscreen
28 JKwas61947@aol.com 17Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
29 Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet24Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
30 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1115Re: Uh Oh!!? (was Pulled my head off...)
31 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml12RE: oil (?) spray on windscreen
32 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1124Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
33 Frankelson@aol.com 26Re: MOD Land Rover markings, beer, and customs
34 "David and Cynthia Walke22Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
35 JKwas61947@aol.com 16Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
36 BBUTCH3@aol.com 7Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
37 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml30Frame Work
38 JKwas61947@aol.com 16Re: Frame Work
39 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml25RE: Frame Work
40 Tom Coron [tcoron@nswc.n16Los Gatos Sighting
41 "Christopher H. Dow" [do29Re: Los Gatos Sighting
42 Benjamin Smith [bens@psa22Re: Los Gatos Sighting
43 "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@32Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen
44 "Spencer K. C. Norcross"27RE: Frame Work
45 "M. Tompkins" [mmglass@i22Re: Need Paint Code
46 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o12Re[2]: oil (?) spray on windscreen
47 john cranfield [john.cra23Re: Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop
48 Jarvis64@aol.com 11Re: Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop
49 William Dan Terry [wterr28For Sale: Series Parts
50 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire20Re: MOD Land Rover markings
51 "The Becketts" [hillman@28don't nick that tyre (Tire)
52 "The Becketts" [hillman@18Side of the road
53 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M12Re: Side of the road


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From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:02:19 +0100
Subject: Touble is, I now need a 1/4" male to 1/8 male BSP

Swaglok have a product to do this I guess your local office would be 
contactable throught the web site www.swagelok.com

Martin Lough
Frank W. Murphy Ltd
Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext. 245)
Fax: +44 1722 410088
Email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk

Visit our website at: http://www.fwmurphy.co.uk

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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:57:25 -0400
Subject: Re: MOD Land Rover markings, beer, and customs

It's actually called a 'bridging plate'

As far as I am concerned, Beer & Ale is interchangeable. When I say 
'let's go for a beer' it is with the intention of heading for the 
nearest pub to get a drink, nothing more, nothing less

When we flew out of B,ham last week, we had all kinds of Land Rover 
parts with us. I had a skid plate, snorkel, lamp guards, and other 
sundries. We were directed to the oversize baggage are where the bags 
etc. were x-rayed. It was actually quite fascinating when I was called 
to the monitor to explain what things were. There was no hassle, 
nothing was opened, and we proceeded on our way. The US end was just 
as pleasant. The only things that were examined were the canned 
foodstuffs I brought with me. They proved to be acceptable and I 
proceeded to the cashier to pay the $30.00 duty on the automotive 
parts. I find that if you declare everything then there is usually no 
hassle with customs although last trip US customs did confiscate 3 
pork pies I had with me.

Cheers for now, see you all at Greek Peak

Peter Goundry
67 GS109" IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:04:17 EDT
Subject: Re: monocoque designs

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:02:08 EDT, you write:

<< unibody just does not hold up well to the stresses applied to the
 sheetmetal joints and suffers failure much sooner than the standard body >>

Anybody ELSE fear for the freelander yet???
Alex Maiolo

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:11:11 EDT
Subject: Re: paint/zebra

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:02:08 EDT, you write:

<< In regard to laying down the base color, do you go to a typical auto
 painter, even though the parts are aluminum?
  >>
 It shouldn't matter. Aluminum takes standard paint just fine. I shot mine in
acrylic enamel which is easiest to shoot, but has a slight tendency to "orange
peal" a bit. 

Without care paint on aluminum tends to wear off sooner that paint on steel,
any series truck will prove that theory, but other than an optional self-
etching primer, which I skipped when I painted mine for cost reasons, no
special prepping is necessary.
Of course, you could buy one that's already white....

Alex Maiolo

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:13:57 EDT
Subject: Re: dime store puns

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:03:04 EDT, you write:

<< I just KNEW there'd be one who couldn't see it...............
 
 re:coilling in horror.
 
 re: creational vehicles........
  >>
Thanks for gettin' my back...
-Alex Maiolo

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:18:16 EDT
Subject: Re: meek

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:03:04 EDT, you write:

<< Perhaps the meek shall inherit the
 earth........  >>
  God, and all this time I thought it was the "Greeks." The "Geeks" perhaps?
That's the kind of hearing loss one sustains driving a Series truck I guess.

BTW, no Monty Python threads, lads, we owe it to the insufferability police to
lay low.

Alex Maiolo

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:23:13 -0400
Subject: Re: meek

"The meek shall inherit the Earth - plots of it six feet by three....."

                    Robert A. Heinlein

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:32:15 EDT
Subject: Re:

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:03:04 EDT, you write:

<< 'hey, a Land Rover
 fuel pump', now that geezer knows his Land Rover bits, recognising it in xray
 form....... >>
 That's absolutely incredible!
I suppose his sleeping habits have been terribly disturbed ever since someone
put that stupid pea under his mattress.

Alex Maiolo

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:40:52 EDT
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

In a message dated 98-07-29 07:03:20 EDT, you write:

<<  I'll be the one in the blue Rover with
 the tire on the Bonnet.
      
 John Kwasnik
 Sherburne NY >>

 If that's the case, your name isn't John, it's Peter and you live in Durham
NC. Er, wait a sec, NOPE  it's Alan and you live in Connecticut. Hmmmmmm....
There couln't be more than ONE, could there???

Alex Maiolo

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From: Jett.Hogger@prodigy.com (MR JOHN M ROSSI)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:50:12, -0500
Subject: Need Paint Code

Hello.  Did by any chance did you mean "Iris Blue"  PPG: 12235,  
Dupont: 8184
John  Flintstone, ga.

____
John  Rossi

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:54:08 EDT
Subject: Hello? Taste? I know you're in there! (no LR content)

<< << When I was in Edinburgh earlier this year, I stopped  by a bar close to
  the University.
  I ordered a pint of local brew, but then I noticed that 3/4 of the kids
  had bottles of Bud infront of them.
  Go figger.. >>
 
 Dumbasses could've been sucking down Belhaven... 
 
  In the US, we have the biggest selection of fresh vegetables and foodstuffs
 that are so specialized we can accomodate any palate known to man.
 Yet most people still prefer MacDonalds.
 If it's true that "we want what we can't have, " I suppose the inverse must
be
 the case as well.
 
 Alex "no CO2 for me, thanks" Maiolo
 
  

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From: Leger Marc-Andre <ma.leger@wefa.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:52:30 -0400
Subject: RE: paint/zebra

It's already white !

(I posted the original Zebra / Mutual of Omaha question). I did have
some concerns about the comments on the potential resale value of the
D90 and have not yet decided what to do about it !

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:55:17 -0500
Subject: RE: paint/zebra

 I did have
>some concerns about the comments on the potential resale value of the
>D90 and have not yet decided what to do about it !

It's not a matter of "what to do about it", it's just a matter of if you do
it or you don't. If you like ridding on a Zebra, go ahead, forget the rest
and enjoy the ride. Solve problems as you reach them, if you reach them, and
not before they exist.

On my personal opinion, I wouldn't, but it's your truck, not mine.

Good luck.

Lic. LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ CHACON
Jose Cartellone Construcciones Civiles S.A.
E-mail: lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
Tel: (506) 296 2743
Fax: (506) 296 2744

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From: nlamon@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:18 -0500
Subject: O.K...Then what'a "coiless Rifle"...?

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From: kerryscott@usa.net
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:43:03
Subject: Inheritance

The way I heard it was: "the meek shall inherit the earth, but not its mineral 
rights".

Kerry
1970 IIA 88" named Gemsbok

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From: Leger Marc-Andre <ma.leger@wefa.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:51:08 -0400
Subject: RE: 1970 land rover -whats it worth?

In reference to this answer, I have an additional question: I have a
SIIa 1/2 ton Lightweight utility truck Right Hand Drive, according to
info found on the web there where only 1893 made with an A suffix, and
mine has a B suffix (
http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/Series/FAQ.S.Chassis_Numbers.alpha.html),
another source (Paul Hazell
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/LW/index.html ) does
seem to confirm the information and data I have.

So I guess what I have what is a somewhat rare model... It was restored.
The previous owner did some restoration work many years ago and,
according to his sister and her husband (as he has died). The work done
including an engine rebuild and frame replacement. He then, apparently,
used it for prospecting in the Canadian north. The truck looked really
good when I got it a year ago.

I just had all body pannels removed and stripped down to the metal, then
repainted, as well as all seals replaced, all the rubbers redone, new
windows and most non-alu body parts replaced. It's looks new now... but
this was not cheap... and I'm not counting my time or my brothers
time... My intention was to keep this as my weekend toy... but thing
changed...

So the long and short of it is , I just moved to the USA in November, I
decided I needed a new vehicule and got a D90. I would like to keep the
Lightweight... but I'n not that rich... so I want to sell it. 

How much is it worth ?

I checked out LRX and other sources and came up with the figure
17,500$... Am I crazy ? perhaps, you tell me (boy am I asking for it !)
I would be loosing money if I sold it for less than 13000$ !

Thanks 

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From: John <jhong@flex.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:45:15 -0700
Subject: MOD Land Rover markings

I am pretty sure the 101 club folks referred to these yellow circles as
"bridge discs" and the club store stocks these for sale.

Personally, I'd be too tempted to turn these into smiley faces as might
passersby...um...err...   :)

Oh and here is my amended golden rule:

"Take her easy but rev her hard every now and then or her bottom end will
get all sludgy and blow out and disappoint you! Unless of course, you are
into that!"

See yah all at Geek Peek!

John "beware the pierre" Hong

Navel Inspector
specializing in topside bumpers and trim bottoms.

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From: Christian Neuhaus <chnw@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:11:44 -0500

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From: Christian Neuhaus <chnw@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:13:34 -0500

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Uh Oh!!?  (was Pulled my head off...)

Hi All - Dave said...

>I was having a problem ...  had a sucking of the exhaust pipe when you put
>your hand or a piece of paper over it.

	Can someone tell me what this is like in more detail. Is it a
random thing or does it happen every fourth combustion? This has made me
wonder about my exaust (please no wise a$$ cracks here (no pun intended)  :
)   )     Anyway, mine seems to fail to fire every once in a while, but is
ok when not at idle. I think this may be more of a throttle body problem.

	I've got a 7:1 head, 2.25 petrol (un-converted). I just checked the
compression, 2, 3, and 4 were 125psi And 1 was 124. I added a little oil,
and from what I remember, one of them went to 140 or something two others
went up some but not to 140, and one went down (I did this one three times)
Is that possible?! Should they be close after oil in a good condition
engine?

>Vacuum gauge confirmed a bad valve ... Dang unleaded gas!

	How do you use a vacuum guage - on the intake manifold? Will the
pressure fluxuate is there is a bad valve? Anyone want to do this w/me at
GP (I don't have a guage yet)?

	I use unleaded gas w/ a lead substitute. I think I may have been
using too much because my plugs fell under the haynes pictures of carbon
deposits (too rich?) and exsessive use of upper cylinder lube / worn valve
guides. I also lose 1 qt per 100 miles,  get smoke on start-up, but fail to
see any smoke in daylight.  At night up a hill, the lights behind me reveal
some smoke out the pipe. At idle w/ the oil breather off there is smoke
coming up from the crankcase.

****	Oh, one more thing I was worried about - while I had the sump off,
I was looking at the piston rods. They move back and fourth a mm or two on
the crank!!! Is there supposed to be play here?! I guess I should have
measured it but....

Any thoughts on my engine?

Thanks in Advance - Peter

I'll be at GP sometime Thursday Eve.   (1965 IIA SWB Ex-MoD, Bronze Green
HT - YYB512S)

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:15:37 +0000
Subject: Re: Inheritance

>The way I heard it was: "the meek shall inherit the earth, but not its
>mineral rights".

The meek I mean will be *part* of the mineral rights.....

Mike Rooth

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From: "bill.di" <bill.di@mci2000.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Volts wagon

>In a message dated 98-07-28 07:03:45 EDT:

>> Driving along, eying the redlined temp guage with trepidation, I came to me
 in a flash.  Where to gas and water meet?  The instrument voltage
 stabilizer!  Eureka!  Problem solved.

>> Best 8 bucks I ever spent! I couldn't understand why my "empty" gas tank
would only take 5 bucks worth of gas! Same problem...
Alex Maiolo

Hhhmnmm ...  could my temperature gauge and fuel gauge indication "problems" be 
related too?

As I boringly mentioned before, I have been having a "problem" with overheating 
with the Series III.  After putting in a new pre-tested thermostat, I had the 
radiator rodded as well.  BUT, the needle still climbs into the red after about 
10 minutes 
at 55 mph.  On that test run, a second "problem" cropped up in that the vehicle 
intermittently lost power under acceleration and ultimately quit running; the 
cause was an empty gas tank -- while the fuel gauge showed above a quarter 
tank!!

Can someone enlighten my feeble mind as to how the instrument voltage 
stabilizer works and can go bad?  Perhaps then I might deduce whether this 
might be related to my ill-indicating gauges.  The last time the Temp gauge 
went into the red, it was 
unusual in that I was taking it easy on the accelerator.

Bill in Albuquerque

P.S. Don't worry about being easy on me.   I know that the thermostat was 
needed since there was not one previously installed - probably to remedy the 
"overheating problem"  ... and my radiator had a few previously existing small 
leaks that were 
closed up by the shop.

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:45:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Volts wagon

Re: Voltage stabilizer:

OK, there are two different types of gauges on Rovers. if yours is an early
IIa (dunno off hand...did you mention it?) then the gauges work straight
off 12 volts - no stabilizer.

If a later IIa or II (does the fuel gauge climb slowly when the car is
turned on? If so, then you have this type), then there's a little block
that turns the 12 volt feed to the gaues into a 10-volt regulated level.
With this, differences in charging rates and battery health don't affect
the gauge readings, which does happen with an unregulated system.

There;s an easy way to tell if yours has gone the way of all silicon -
meter the voltage from the white with green lead on the back of the gauge
to ground. If it's 10 volts (or close +- .5 volt) then the regulator is
working. If it's 12-14 volts, the regulator is hosed or disconnected.

Judging by your symptoms i would suspect the regulator is toast - the fuel
gauge bit is a BIG hint.

                         ajr

P.S>: How do I know which wire? Had the prints for a S.III here in my
office....8*)

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:50:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Volts wagon (one last bit)

The voltage regulator is the little square block with 2 wires on it at the
very back of the instrument panel cluster opening. It should test as
follows:

Green wire - Car voltage  - 12+volts with the engine off and the key on
White/green wire - regulated +10 volts

Both of these are measured to case ground.

                    ajr

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:03:38 EDT
Subject: Re: Uh Oh!!?  (was Pulled my head off...)

Sounds to me like you have classic symptoms of engine wear.  The "play" you
mentioned is extreme if it is around a mm.  typical is around .003", you check
by using a crushable material called plastigage available at parts houses.  If
however you only had some clicking when you pulled side to side on the rod
(left and right not ahead and behind) you probably are OK.  BIg play ahead and
behind is not a problem, as this is not so critical a measure.  The rod is
oiled under pressure from the middle and the oil flings out fore and aft of
the rod bearing.

Coupled with oil deposits perhaps your rings went in at the same time as the
rod bearings?

Good luck, try talking to some old guys about your motor, Model "A" vintage,
they really did learn in a school which is off application to old rovers.

Zack

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:08:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop

Hi all -
	I think I have finally traced the source of a loud clunk at the end
of my slowing down in my IIA.
	My front springs are really worn, and my clutch won't shift right
unless the pushrod it at its 'maximum length'.
	Thus when I slow the weight of the rover compresses the springs,
and when the clutch is depressed, the bottom hits the front propshaft -
creating a disturbing clunk/clunk/clunk, along with that feeling from the
clutch pedal.
	Anyone ever experience this? Sound plausible? My front diff
'blocks' are only about two inches from the frame bumpers at rest. The
bottom of the pushrod assembly is only about 1 inch from the propshaft.

Thanks in advance - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:11:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: oil (?) spray on windscreen

I've been getting a fine speckeling of oil-ey type stuff on my windscreen,
wingtops, and hood - anybody know where this might be coming from - sounds
weird to me. The first time I noticed was after I came back from MA, a 300
mile trip. I cleaned all that off, and two weeks later after being around
town, its back! What is this? - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:18:30 EDT
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

Peter,
    Look at your fan blades.  Do they look like they've been throwing oil?
Could be a leak up near the front cover being sprayed all over by the fan.
The only other place would be from the oil bath air cleaner.  These commonly
rust out on the bottoms.  It may be dripping into an upfraft somewhere.  Any
new spots under the car when parked?
     You're not sure if it's oil?  Drain the radiator and refill with H2O and
go for a drive.  Do the spots look different?  If yes, it's a leaky rad. or
hose.

John 

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From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:38:55 -0700
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

Peter M. Kaskan wrote:

> I've been getting a fine speckeling of oil-ey type stuff on my windscreen

> What is this? - Peter

Off hand I'd guess you've been convoying behind a Seriees rig :)

More seriously, I'd say you've got an engine bay leak that's getting blown up.

The underside of the hood MIGHT show a pattern indicating where's its coming
from.
Check the body work too for spray patterns; that might help in tracking it
down.

cheers

Jeremy

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:35:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Uh Oh!!?  (was Pulled my head off...)

Thanks for the reply Zach - The play I felt was along the same axis as the
crank - fore and aft - I guess that's OK - good - Cheers - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:42:34 -0700
Subject: RE: oil (?) spray on windscreen

On really worn engines with a lot of piston blow-by, any crank case
breather hoses, and even the oil filler tube can puke, sorry - throw up
a lot of oil.  This can then be thrown around the engine bay by the
cooling fan or just highway speed wind...

Paul in Victoria.

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:47:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

John, Thanks for getting back  -
	You point of looking at the fan blades made me think of something I
have recently detected (and forgot about) - a leaking front crank seal!!
Dooohhh!! I'll check the fan next.
	I've heard this was originally riveted in, and needs to be drilled
out, which needs the radiator removed - Is this true?? Will a right angle
drill fit? How can I tell if it is still riveted, before I start this job?
I guess I'll be removing that damn crank- bolt sometime in the future!!
Anybody want to help this weekend at GP??   :  )

Cheers - Peter

Peter M. Kaskan				Uris Hall 231
Office / 607-255-3382			Dept. Of Psychology
Lab /  607-255-6396			Cornell University
e-mail / pmk11@cornell.edu
http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:59:25 EDT
Subject: Re: MOD Land Rover markings, beer, and customs

In a message dated 29/07/98 12:55:25 BST, you write:

<< last trip US customs did confiscate 3 
 pork pies I had with me. >>

Peter,
you're doing it again, I'd kill for a pork pie although I'm told it would then
kill me.......

cholesterol rules!!!!

(bet they ate 'em)

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:47:10 -0700
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

I have to ask you in all seriousness, were you following a LR?

A D90 followed me for 600 miles and had the same thing - I have no spray on
my rear...BUT, I guess I have enough drips for the long distance following
vehicle.

I felt bad enough I wanted to wash his pristine white D90.

What year is your LR Peter?

Cheers
David
Full-time father of a 3.5 year old
1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD"
S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch - our home
wahooadv@earthlink.net

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:08:00 EDT
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

Peter,
    I'm not sure about the rivets, but I'll have my tools with me at Greek
Peak!  

"Will work for beer"

John 

I'll be in the blue Rover  WITH FRESHLY PAINTED WHEELS!
      

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From: BBUTCH3@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:27:13 EDT
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

unsubscribe please

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:29:45 -0700
Subject: Frame Work

Well, my poor little '61 SWB is looking as denuded as ever.  Monday
night I drove it up to Blain Worth Auto Restorations, in the highlands
near Victoria to have the rear crossmember replaced and some repairs to
a bent and rusted front chassis horn.  Blain is pretty cool, he has no
problems with letting me dismantle the beast at his shop in preparation
for the frame work - even let's me use his air tools.  Man, that impact
wrench turned a three hour mess of rusted bolts on the old crossmember
into half an hour's work!  Anyway, the rear tub, seat box, floor, doors,
front wings, bonnet (hood) and radiator (breakfast) panel are now all
off again.
Blain wants to pressure wash the inside of the frame and spray that rust
converter you've all been talking about  (POR-15?) inside all the rails.
Depending on how much all this costs, I think that I'll have him respray
all the body panels while they're off.

Hopefully, with all this free time I have now that the Rover's at summer
camp, I'll be able to update my web page.  If anyone wants some specific
pictures or descriptions of the cross member replacement process, please
let me know and I'll try and add them to the page.  

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC  Canada
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:57:13 EDT
Subject: Re: Frame Work

Paul,
   I'd discourage you from painting the bodywork.  Every scratch and ding
should tell a story, bring back memories...

A Land Rover is like a rugged gentleman who becomes more handsome with some
weathering of the skin, while a sports car needs constant attention to look
attractive (kind of like Jane Fonda).  Land Rovers sure ain't no sports car.

John Kwasnik
Sherburne

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:22:50 -0700
Subject: RE: Frame Work

	John writes: Paul,
	   I'd discourage you from painting the bodywork.  Every scratch
and ding
	should tell a story, bring back memories...

I hear you!

BUT  my Landie has been around almost 40 years.  It's got more that it's
share of dings, scratches & blemishes, and past re-sprays, not to
mention a few brand new panels in their original factory black primer.
All those scratches and dings are someone else's memory.  I want to
start from scratch (pun), cart blanch, a clean slate, so that every
scratch and dent in her is mine.  She may be clean and shiny when I'm
done but that won't stop me from using her like she was designed to be
used.

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC  

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From: Tom Coron <tcoron@nswc.navy.mil>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:55:12 -0400
Subject: Los Gatos Sighting

OK, so it's a second hand sighting. My daughter who lives in the San Jose area
says there's a house on University Ave in Los Gatos with 4 OLD LAND ROVERS in
the driveway and on the street.

Anyone on this list? If so, I'll be dropping by next month for a look, when we
make our next trip out there.

Tom Coron
King George, Va
'66' IIA SWB RHD

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From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:49:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Los Gatos Sighting

Tom Coron wrote:
> OK, so it's a second hand sighting. My daughter who lives in the San Jose area
> says there's a house on University Ave in Los Gatos with 4 OLD LAND ROVERS in
> the driveway and on the street.

That's the infamous Nick Baggarly.  I recently had a conversation with
someone who thought he was a Rover mechanic (which he is, but only works
on his own!).  His stable includes:

3 Dormobiles
1 SIIA 88"
1 '93 NAS 110
and recently he sold a classic Range Rover.

Of course, I'm not one to cast stones give the current contents of my
stable.

> Anyone on this list? If so, I'll be dropping by next month for a look, when we
> make our next trip out there.

He's on the Mendo (left coast land rover) list.  

C

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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:59:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Los Gatos Sighting 

In message <bulk.24211.19980729114851@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:
> OK, so it's a second hand sighting. My daughter who lives in the San Jose are
> says there's a house on University Ave in Los Gatos with 4 OLD LAND ROVERS in
> the driveway and on the street.

	And at least 3 are Dormolbiles.  And did she miss the D110 as well?
In the case he is not on LRO (he is on mendo_recce) that would probably be Nick
Baggarly's house.

Ben
--
Benjamin Smith                   "If I were running such a contest, I would
Collective Technologies          specifically eliminate any entries from Ben 
    (a pencom company)           involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere. 
Land-  : '72 Series III 88"      He'd drive it up the Amazon Basin for a half
 -Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd     can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie

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From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:06:23 -0400
Subject: Re: oil (?) spray on windscreen

Peter Kaskan writes:
>I guess I'll be removing that damn crank- bolt sometime in the future!!
>Anybody want to help this weekend at GP??   :  )

Assuming you're referring to the starter dawg, I sure hope yours comes off
easier than the one installed on my Turner. Three days after I got FINSUP
back from having the new engine installed I was mounting the capstan winch
and needed to swap starter dawgs. Tried all the "field" techniques for
removing the thing--no go.  What finally worked was using a 3/4" pneumatic
impact drive. Well, it worked *after* we upgraded the airline to 1/2" I.D.
and cranked the compressor up to 200psi. Jared ("101" Silbersher) figures
it was damn close to 2000 ft/lbs of tourque needed to remove the thing.

Throw a pipe extension across the frame and use the starter motor indeed. ;-)

See some of you at the Peak...RoverOn!

jab

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
	Guidance Counselor said your scores are anti-heroic.
	Computer recommends hard-drinking calypso poet.
	--Jimmy Buffett, If It All Falls Down (by Matt Betton)

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From: "Spencer K. C. Norcross" <snorcross@spectator.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:30:32 -0400
Subject: RE: Frame Work

Paul Quinn wrote...

>BUT  my Landie has been around almost 40 years.  It's got  
>more that it's share of dings, scratches & blemishes, and past 
>re-sprays, not to mention a few brand new panels in their 
>original factory black primer.  

are we still talking about Jane Fonda? :)

see lots of y'all friday night.

rgds,
spenny
Arlington, VA

1969 SWB, The Wayback Machine
1965 Ex-MOD LWB, Kimayo <- Just add bolts  :-0
Land Rover - 4WD of choice for the Information Superhighway

Q. Why do they call it a kilt?
A. Because a lot of people got kilt when they called it a skirt.

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From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:51:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Need Paint Code

No I am pretty sure "Arles Blue" is the correct description.
It is a blue used during the 80's on UK Defenders.
You can see a picture of my LR at the following URL.
Although not a very good picture to match paint color.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8365/lr1.jpg

Thanks Anyway
Mike

MR JOHN M ROSSI wrote:

> Hello.  Did by any chance did you mean "Iris Blue"  PPG: 12235,
> Dupont: 8184
> John  Flintstone, ga.
> ____
> John  Rossi

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 98 16:59:26 EST
Subject: Re[2]: oil (?) spray on windscreen

>>Throw a pipe extension across the frame and use the starter motor indeed. ;-)

doesn't that void the warranty on new turners?

see ya 
dave

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:37:39 -0300
Subject: Re: Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop

Peter M. Kaskan wrote:
> Hi all -
>         I think I have finally traced the source of a loud clunk at the end
> of my slowing down in my IIA.
>         My front springs are really worn, and my clutch won't shift right
> unless the pushrod it at its 'maximum length'.
>         Thus when I slow the weight of the rover compresses the springs,
> and when the clutch is depressed, the bottom hits the front propshaft -
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> http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/graduates/people/PeterM.Kaskan.htm
> http://comp9.psych.cornell.edu/psychology/finlay/finlaylab.html

Peter check the condition of the two pins that go through the tube on
the shaft that the push rod moves. It is common for these pins to wear
which takes up much of the pushrod travel and if the holes in the tube
are worn also it could be as much as 1/4 of a turn.
       John and Muddy

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:19:13 EDT
Subject: Re:  Clutch Slave Pushrod/Front Prop

Peter,
Get her going, put her in neutral, let clutch pedal up, then stop.  Any noise?
If not, I'd say you've found it.

Bill Rice

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From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:10:34 -0600
Subject: For Sale: Series Parts

- Civ fuel tank, used, $50
- filler neck and body fitting, used, gasket, new, $20 
- fuel cap, used, $15
- locking hasp, new, $5
- filler hose, new, $15
- used seat backs from IIA, foam good in both, one with a small tear in
side, other with
breaks in seams between center parts and sides, foam good, make offer.
- IIA splash guards, 1 used $7, 1 new $20
- IIA press in wheel studs w/ 15/16 flat-side nuts, new, 2, $4 each
- IIA high gear wheel (I believe - part removed when OD installed) and
gearbox endplate w/ bearings, useful if OD fails and need to keep going,
possibly used, excellent condition, all edges are crisp, $45
- IIA upper right front door hinge, used w/ new bolt, spring, bronze
bush, locker and nut, $5
- nutplate for door latches, 2, new, $2 each

wterry@netpubstinl.com in Fort Collins, CO, USA

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:50:57 -0400
Subject: Re: MOD Land Rover markings

Ben it is called a bridge plate!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin Smith wrote:

> In message <bulk.18977.19980728153514@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:
> >    A couple quick questions for the group. On many pictures of
> > MOD Rovers, I see a flat yellow plate about 10" in diam attached
> > to the front. Whatzit fer? Where can I get one?
>         It tells how many tons your 101 weighs including a full payload.
> This is so that a PFC can sit at a bridge, know that only vehicles less than
> less than, say 5 tons, are safe on the bridge, and can easily differentiate
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)]
> Land-  : '72 Series III 88"      He'd drive it up the Amazon Basin for a half
>  -Rover: '94 Discovery 5-Spd     can of Jolt and a stale cookie." --K. Archie

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:39:31 +1000
Subject: don't nick that tyre (Tire)

Luis Manuel Gutierrez wrote:

>The problem I have with dogs is that I cant get them into a car.
>The last two I have had would prefer to get hit by one rather
>than coming into it. a sweet Belgian Shepard and a paranoic
>Australian Shepard)

I can't keep my Labrador out.  He's a pain in the bum when I'm trying to
work in the back - he wants to help.

What is an "Australian Shepherd" ? I've never heard of one.  It must be a
name that is only used overseas - not in Australia.  What colour is it?
Blue with darker spots?  That's a blue cattledog.   If it's a medium brown
all over, it's a kelpie.  They're the only Australian dogs that I know of
(apart from the dingo).  But then, I don't know much about dogs except they
are better than cats.  (the only good cat is a dead cat.  We have a lot of
problems in Australia with feral cats killing native fauna).

If you have a scanner and a photo, email a picture directly to me - not to
the list.

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:44:35 +1000
Subject: Side of the road

<<<<<Its a strange country I'm moving to in the next month!<<<

Alex Maiolo wrote:

>Strange or not, at least we drive on correct damn side of the
> road! (hahahahaha, just kidding!)

Nah!!  In terms of number of countries who drive on the right (but not
necessarily the correct) side of the road, it is far outweighed by the
number who drive on the left (and correct) side of the road.  8-)

Ron

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:04:50 +0000
Subject: Re: Side of the road

number who drive on the left (and correct) side of the road.  8-)
>Ron

All of which are exceeded by the number who drive down the middle...:-)

Mike Rooth

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