1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:43:58 EDT Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest In a message dated 98-07-24 07:05:15 EDT, you write: moment - the pound is too darned high, that they'd make a loss on it. >> Perhaps, but the main reason from what I'm given to understand is that Defenders don't crumple, and there is no good way of putting in an airbag. Alex Maiolo ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:45:54 EDT Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest In a message dated 98-07-24 07:05:15 EDT, you write: << Wouldn't have been The Carnivore on the outskirts of Nairobi, didn't go there, but heard about it. I was cruising about in an SIII diesel 88. >> *DING* right answer! Gringo central, man, but really cool. Alex Maiolo ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:57:37 EDT Subject: Re: wind-bags In a message dated 98-07-24 07:07:23 EDT, you write: << I've only been into Land Rovers for the past 5 years, I would venture to say that there haven't really been enough accidents involving them to make side airbags mandatory in this type of vehicle. >> Yeah, I agree, but that may have much more to do with odds. I mean, there are only a handfull of them in the US, so your chances of dying in a Defender are about the same as dying in a bizarre gardening accident. But, as much as I believe THE MAN is always keepin' his foot on our forehead, a defender can't be an exception if the law says cars have to have air-bags. Whether one agrees with the law or not is a different discussion for a different time, but if it's a law, I guess it has to be consistant. Too bad, because I'd love to own a 110 again. My wife had her life saved by one so I'm pretty much pro air-bag. I reckon it would be nice to have a choice as to whether or not you want one, but just like the seat belt law, I think it's designed to keep the person causing the accident from getting sued for wrongful death when an airbag could have saved a life. They say the bags kill about 17 people a year; usually error involving a child and a lack of common sense on a parent's part, but last year they figured 3200 lives were saved. Who knows. Alex Maiolo <-------tool of the MAN Alex Maiolo ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Axel Pawlik <axelpawlik@tinet.ie> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:54:18 +0100 Subject: RE:Re: "withdraw the stub axle"... hah! At 11:39 24.07.98 +0100, you wrote: >I am just asking but I have two bearings in the hub not one!!!! yes. The first one came out easy, with the rest of the hub. The seconde, inner, bearing was mated to the stub axle. A bit of prying while in the vice got it loose without problems. The "bigger than stub axle splines" must have been deformed by something. A tiny bit of filing rectified that problem. cheers, Axel ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:01:38 EDT Subject: Re: carnivore In a message dated 98-07-24 07:07:23 EDT, you write: << The location is a bit interesting. The back door of the Carnivore opens onto the Nairobi Game Park. >> Or as the restauranteur calls it, "da live meat locka." Talk about opportunity.... Alex Maiolo ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:08:18 EDT Subject: Re: In a message dated 98-07-24 07:16:34 EDT, you write: << As for the OD stressing the gearbox, usually the argument is the otherway around. Most people think that the Fairy OD is too weak. Ben >> That's what I'm given to understand. The Santana Toro model is beefier since it doesn't use needle-bearings, and it holds twice the oil so it runs cooler. A better design, but similar to the Beta/VHS arguement, the better design doesn't always win. If you can find a Santana, and I wish you luck, buddy, get it and don't think twice, otherwise add "climbing" gear oil, at a ratio of up to 20% in the Fairey and it will run cooler and stay lubed a little better. Personally, I like the stuff they sell at NAPA. You know, the stuff that climbs up the spinning cogs you play with while you wait an hour to be served... That's some great goo. Alex Maiolo Hillsborough NC ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden" <rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:12:51 +0100 Subject: Re: wind-bags accident from getting sued for wrongful death when an airbag could have saved a life. They say the bags kill about 17 people a year; usually error involving a child and a lack of common sense on a parent's part, but last year they figured 3200 lives were saved. Who knows. ------- Ah the old US airbag chestnut. Most if not all of the US airbag kid fatalities are because US airbags are more powerful than European ones. The reason why? They have to deal with an adult who doesn't have a seat belt on! Wouldn't it be simpler to make seat belts mandatory, then airbags can have a more "sensible" power/size? Its a strange country I'm moving to in the next month! But then, the new UK/EU driving license has just been launched - now that's a good idea which the US has had for ages (credit card sized and with a photo). Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Scott Wilson <scott@scratchstudio.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:40:57 -0400 Subject: RE: wind-bags and gas tanks > But, as much as I believe THE MAN is always keepin' his foot on our forehead, > a defender can't be an exception if the law says cars have to have air-bags. > Whether one agrees with the law or not is a different discussion for a > different time, but if it's a law, I guess it has to be consistant. The only this is that to me, the Defender represents a different type of car than say, a Volvo... It's almost a professional vs consumer argument... DAT machines have to have SCMS, but if you buy a "pro" model instead of a "consumer" model then it doesn't have SCMS... Am I making any sense or should I shut up? I'll shut up... I haven't had any coffee yet this morning. Oh yeah... I do have a question... I'm replacing the gas tank sometime this weekend, and I don't have a shop manual yet... that won't get here until monday or so... My question is this... the horrible plastic gas tank that is in there now is resting on what seems to be a thick metal base that is made of thick wire mesh... IS this there to protect the plastic one, or is it there to protect ALL the gas tanks? thanks... -Scott ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Kevin Whitmarsh <kevin.whitmarsh@which.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:43:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Freelander and defenders to US(cars...) CIrvin1258@aol.com wrote: > I was talking with a Customs agent/friend of mine at work today, and she > mentioned that either KLM, or Lufthansa (possibly both - she thinks), just > brought some NEW Rover cars into the U.S. for testing. She didn't know what > models they were, but that they resembled a Lexus/Infiniti type of sedan, and > that the emblems were all covered, as were other parts of the cars. > She said, that they are going to Arizona for testing (where Rover does nearly > all their hot weather tests - as do other European manufacturers), and U.S. [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)] > Looks like the ball is rolling... > Charles Probably the new Rover R40 saloon car, replacment for the current Rover 600 and 800 car ranges. R40 due out at end of year, some details on the rover group web site. cheers Kevin Whitmarsh Basingstoke, UK 4-wheels 1985 110 County V8 1995 BMW 318IS Coupe 2-wheels 1993 Orange Elite with 'XT,Hope,Middleburn etc. http://homepages.which.net/~kevin.whitmarsh/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:35:17 -0400 Subject: Billing <Neil wrote: Well, I bloody enjoyed it! Anyone else go, there's absolutely no Billing talk here recently........> The first American contingent arrived back Wednesday and we really haven't got round to talking about it yet. As mentioned on a previous list, both R.O.V.E.R.S and West Connecticut Rover Club (WCRC) had parties attending Billings. Pictures should be up on the club sites shortly and articles will be appearing in the club's news sheets. I am sure that all of the members photographs will be on display at Greek Peak and that we will all be talking about our adventures/misadventures. Cheers for now, Peter J Goundry 67 GS109" IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127 ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Kenner, Dixon" <Dixon.Kenner@ms.rc.x400.gc.ca> Date: 24 Jul 1998 10:29:00 -0400 Subject: Rover cars in the USA CIrvin1258@aol.com writes: >I was talking with a Customs agent/friend of mine at work today, and she >mentioned that either KLM, or Lufthansa (possibly both - she thinks), just >brought some NEW Rover cars into the U.S. for testing. She didn't know what >models they were, The new Mini is already over in the USA for a couple of displays (one in SF that I heard about) and testing. (Testing? Let's see how it compares to a Mk II or III 1275 'S... That would be interesting... :-)) Rgds, ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Bradley Alan <alan@cs.bc.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Landy Sighting on the web On IBM's Employment Web Page, they have a Safari motif and a sketch of a beautiful Series (IIA or III). --Brad ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:27:30 EDT Subject: Re: Diesel Tank Repair The usual cautions for welding any closed vessel which has AT ANY TIME contained hydrocarbons/combustible/flammables. You can blow up. it is that simple. I'll bet that the cost of a new tank is not as bad as you think. That said, for irreplaceable tanks (Luscombe 1948 Aluminum Hand welded tank for Aircraft) we welded the tank after draining, cleaning, ventilating well we placed a continuous flow of nitrogen into the tank from a high pressure cylinder via some tape and a regulator. regulator to send the flow at a slow rate, and the tape to close up most but not all of the holes. the project worked and we did not explode. The welder was an deeply experienced aircraft welder and ahd done this procedure many times prior. Zack Arbios Sacramento, CA USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:11:37 -0700 Subject: RE: wind-bags / Safety Standards Do the air bag / crumple zone collision standards in the US also apply to light trucks? i.e. does your bog standard Ford F150 with ladder frame chassis have to meet the same standards as a Ford Taurus? Following that line of thought, is a Defender classed as a car or light truck down there? Paul Quin Victoria, BC Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:25:45 -0700 Subject: How fast should I go (was overdrive question) From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:16:56 -0500 Subject: How fast should I go (was overdrive question) >My Series III currently has 32" tyres. Without the OD I have a self imposed top speed of about 62 mph. At that speed I'm turning about 4000 rpm (or at least it seems that way to me). As highway speeds in general increase, there is a real temptation to keep up with the flow of traffic. But keep in mind that the 2.25 Land Rover engine was designed in an era where 50mph was considered fast. Not only that, but the basic engine design is a diesel; they redesigned the necessary components to turn it into a petrol engine to eliminate a second engine assembly line (it had been producing a car engine that was also used in the Land Rover, but the car went out of production). So the basic design is extremely strong, which is good, but it's for a relatively slow-turning engine. The redline of the 2.25 petrol engine is 4,250 rpm. If you drive with the engine turning consistently at 4,000 rpm, you are only 250 rpm away from its maximum rpm. Needless to say, this is not the best way to prolong the life of the engine. If you own a car of some sort that has a tachometer and a redline of, say, 6,000 rpm, put it in a gear where you can drive for awhile at 5,500 rpm without exceeding the speed limit. Listen to what the engine sounds like and decide if that's what you would like to do to the engine for an extended period of time. That's what you're doing to the Land Rover 2.25 engine if you drive continuously at 4,000 rpm. And keep in mind that the Land Rover engine was made using 1950's technology and metallurgy, not modern technology and materials. I don't want to imply that the engine in a Series Land Rover will fail immediately if driven consistently at 4,000 rpm. But it's life will definitely be shortened. Regardless of how often you change the oil, and how easy you are on an engine, the pistons are only going to go up and down so many times. Like all things mechanical, the parts will eventually wear out. The harder the engine has to work, and the faster it has to turn, the sooner the parts will wear out. The floatplanes I fly are fitted with Pratt & Whitney R-985 air-cooled, radial engines that develop a maximum of 450 hp at takeoff. By FAA regulation, they have to be completely overhauled every 1,600 hours no matter how well they may be running at the time. The difference in wear in an engine that's been run in cruise at 1,700 rpm during that period and one that's been run at 1,900 rpm is significant and obvious. Since buying my Series III new in 1973, I have made it a practice to never take the engine over 3,000 rpm except when absolutely needed, such as when merging onto a highway or whatever. With the overdrive and the tires I have fitted, 3,000 rpm gives me a speed of about 55 mph. Sure, everyone passes me if I'm on the highway, but that's what happens when you drive a 1950's-era, 68hp, utility vehicle in 1998. The guys out driving their restored Model A's on Sundays aren't going any faster. If you drive a car with an automatic transmission that also happens to be fitted with a tachometer, take a look at how fast the engine is turning at highway cruise speeds. The small-displacement V-8 in my Range Rover turns about 2,500 rpm at 60+ mph. But the redline of the engine is a over 5,000 rpm. In 5th gear, the engine in my BMW 633csi is turning about 2,200 rpm at 60 mph, although the redline of the engine is a bit over 6,000 rpm. Both the Range Rover and the BMW have engines that are considerably more modern than the lump that's in a Series Land Rover, yet their cruise rpm is way below their maximum rpm. Yes, I know both engines are considerably more powerful than the 2.25 engine so can do much more work at a lower rpm, but we're not talking about relative power ratings here, but simply engine wear. I occasionally see Series Land Rovers on the highways in the Seattle area. Sometimes they are being driven at the speeds for which they were designed. But often they are out in the faster lanes, and as they pass me, or I pass them, I can hear their engines screaming away as the driver tries to keep up with the flow of traffic. He probably can't hear it given the howl of the all the transmission components under the floor, but from outside the vehicle it's obvious the engine's being thrashed close to its maximum. The Series Land Rover and the 2.25 engine were designed in an era of low road speeds. Drive it accordingly, and both will last a long, long time. Drive it at today's speeds, and you're taxing every component in the driveline, particularly the engine and transmission. The additional heat, pressure, vibration, etc. will all take their toll, and you'll inevitably experience more problems. A lot of people buy a Series Land Rover today and think they're getting a relatively modern 4wd that happens to look cool. They drive it as they would a more modern vehicle and then wonder why they're having all sorts of problems. The reality is that by today's standards, the Series Land Rover is an ancient machine, and is a far cry from the 4wd made today. But of the five vehicles my wife and I own, my 1973 Series III has the highest "dispatch reliability," to use an airline term. In 25 years it has never once quit on the road, and the only times it has failed to start is when the battery wore out, and then I started it on the hand crank. On the other hand, it has required much more ongoing maintenance than my other vehicles. But I attribute it's impressive reliability to the fact that we drive it today the way it was intended it to be driven in the UK 25 years ago. Slow. __________________ C. Marin Faure faurecm@halcyon.com marin.faure@boeing.com (original owner) 1973 Land Rover Series III-88 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:31:56 EDT Subject: Re: wind-bags ...What I'd REALLY like to know, is wether or not the J**P W******R has them too! If so, HOW did they make them fit in the doors? Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:50:43 EDT Subject: Re: Rover cars in the USA <<Testing? Let's see how it compares to a Mk II or a 1275S...>> Actually, they test them to see how they hold up in very hot climates, then, they have the Feds come out, and look the car over to make sure that it complies to U.S. regs for importation.....then unfortunately, they start crash-testing (yep - they wipe 'em out)! I've had the privelege of driving some pretty neat stuff at LAX - most of which probably never survived testing. (volvo 850s, DB-7s Peugeot 306s Vauxhall Vectras,...and a 1989 Nissan 300ZXGTP car (Group C in Europe) to name a few) Except for the race car, they usually import upto 30 cars at a time for various tests. About 3 years ago, Land Rover was experimenting with a 6-speed gearbox, but I don't know what ever happened with it (heard this from a LR tech who called my office from Arizona, looking for a package), but I know that since they didn't return the 'boxes to the U.K., they were scrapped here (manufacturers do that with projects they're working on, either if they aren't up to snuff, or if they don't want people getting their hands on them yet). Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Philippas <aurora@bam.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:26:45 -0400 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest I am looking for a 1993 Defender 110 hard top/softtop if this car actually exists. I was told they made a few for North America. Any replies would be appreciated Paul owner-lro-digest@playground.sun.com wrote: > Land-Rover-Owner List & Land Rover Owner Daily Digest List > are proudly sponsored by the > Empire Rover Owners Society > "Serving the Great State of New York, the Empire State, > and former British Colonials, everywhere !" > Tired of Too Much E-mail ? -- Go Wired ! read this digest daily at [ truncated by list-digester (was 739 lines)] > Charles > ------------------------------ [digester: Removing section of: > [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; ] ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Keith Addison <gruno@att.net.hk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:51:38 +0800 (HKT) Subject: Re: Iffy prop-shaft >Keith Addison wrote: >>There's no rotational play at all on my >> lightweight. >Jambo Keith, >There certainly should be! Rotational play, that is. You should have a >certain degree of "backlash" setting in your diffs and gearbox. >Regards [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)] >Regards >Paul Oxley Hi Paul 109: Great! Lightweight: Damn! Either way, thanks very much for your help. Timely too - the lady bought the 109 today and seems exceeding happy. (Btw, I'm eating shame because I've forgotten what "Jambo" means, too long away from SA.) All best Keith Addison Lantau Island Hong Kong 1973 Series III Lightweight ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:01:02 -0400
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I'm looking for pictures of Land Rover in Zebra paint similar to the
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site or source of information ?
I've been all over the net, without luck.
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]From: TBache9248@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:00:01 EDT Subject: U.K. Trip Hi All, Apologies about the cross post, only using one gun today. Just came back from the U.K. R.O.V.E.R.S./WCRC got together and attended both Billing and did a factory tour. here is a quick synopsis: Sat-Billing show was enormous!! Thousands of Land Rovers of every description filled the event grounds , parking and camping areas. you would swear every L-R in the U.K. was there. Trade stands were well attended, many installing tires on the spot. Only saw Craddocks doing this last time. Nice displays by many clubs, met with Bob Morrison briefly. Picked up items I had made prior arrangements for. Monday went to Warwick 4X4, clean shop, saw LHD 88" being built for an American at Oxford U. It was stuffed with a 3.5, they have a way to mount it without cutting the bulk head. A new Mazda 3.5 put into a LWB RR, etc. this Mazda engine is supposedly rated a 150HP+! 20 people from WCRC, ROVERS and Solihull Society toured SVO Tuesday , met up with Rob Myers, saw the Callaway RR's being prepped, lots of Autobiography RR's, and some specialist applications. A 99 Discovery "mule" was in the car park. In the afternoon we toured the factory, saw TempestV-8 engines and the new computerized V-8 manufacturing equipment tells me they have a long future for the venerable Buick. Further on they had 5 cyl storm engines built up for the line restart on 1999 Disvcovery and the "new" Defender!!??!! Therfore because of the change over they only showed us the Freelander line. Very little automation here, perhaps only in the body assembly and paint departments. They have a special area where a fellow builds new "old"engines like the 2.25, 2.5 petrol, etc.. you can still order a brand new 2.25 if you are so inclined. Only Company in the world still making new/old stuff. Strangly enough, they also still build 3.5 carb'ed engines for some markets and also for TVR. They build the 2.0 diesel for Honda here as well. Our B&B was 4 miles from Gaydon/Rover Research center. A fellow staying there is in charge of a vehicle transport co. If I had been home one day, I could have been there when they moved all the Camel vehicles. Wed in the county park next door, they had the 50/50 Challenge Freelanders there for a photo shoot for the press release. Paul Entwistle now works for L-R in the P-R Dept. We had to buy a raffle ticket to obtain permission to photo the group! Freelanders are plentiful on the road already-must be selling well. Food is not a specialty of the British-by the way most everywhere it was less than impressive. Photos will be up on the club sites soon and will post a note soon so others can have a look. Going again in 2000, start saving your money now! Tom Bache Avondale, PA ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: BEN_NIBALI@denso-diam.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:51:30 -0400 Subject: Leaf Springs Charles LeBlanc wrote: <I am also in the process of replacing the leaf springs on my 88. I have <removed all of the nuts and all the bolts turn (some with a bit of <persuasion). Some are quit clearly threaded through the shackles, others <I am not so sure. Are the bolts in the front horn assembly threaded to <anything but the nuts? Can they be pulled, knocked, persuaded out? I just went through this last week. Your 88" bugeye should be set up just like my '65 88". Shakles are tapped- must unscrew the bolts in the rear after removing the nuts. I made the mistake of trying to drive those bolts out- I don't recommend it. And definitely don't grind the heads off trying to pound them out the other way. I've been there, too. The front (of the rear springs) is a different story- frame plates are not tapped. Once the nuts are off, the bolts should just pull through. This won't happen of course, because over the years those bolts have rusted to the inside sleeve of the bushing. I had to sacrifice my bolts in order to remove my springs- had to cut through them on either side of the bushing. Real pain in the *ss unless you have a Sawzall. I'm not sure about the front springs- mine haven't yet swollen up so badly from rust that the leaves actually crack in two like the rear springs did. If you can turn your bolts, you can probably drive them out, but in the process might compress the bolt to the point where you have actually changed the thread pitch, and won't be able to get the nut back on. Be gentle. Good luck, Ben ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:50:04 -0500 Subject: Re: How fast should I go (was overdrive question) C. Marin Faure wrote: > The redline of the 2.25 petrol engine is 4,250 rpm. If you drive with > the engine turning consistently at 4,000 rpm, you are only 250 rpm away > from its maximum rpm. Needless to say, this is not the best way to > prolong the life of the engine. I was guessing asto the rpms since I don't have a tach. I'm fairly sure that it is greater than 3000 and I was guessing 4000 at 62mph. > Sure everyone passes me if I'm on the highway, but that's what happens when > you drive a 1950's-era, 68hp, utility vehicle in 1998. Everyone has their own time constraints. At least once a month I take the Series, drive 250 to 500 miles, pull into the campsite at well after midnight friday night, drive all day Saturday day and Sunday, and then drive the 250 to 500 miles home, pulling in again well after midnight and then getting to work monday morning. The difference between 55 mph and 65 mph can mean up to an hour less driven each way. And many times has been the difference between getting to camp before I fell asleep at the wheel. Or it the difference between taking 3.5 days to cross the US by Rover instead of 4.5 days. Some can take the extra day. In the 8 times I made the trip by Series, I have not had that luxury of time. If this means that my 2.25 wears out at 150,000 miles instead of 200,000, so be it. So far the bottom end has 102,000 miles on it since the last rebuild without any problems. Ben ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Joel Baskin <joebas@symix.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:12:40 -0400 Subject: RE: Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom Hi there, Don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for, but here's what ours looks like. Please let me know if and what you do with the picture. <<zeerover.jpg>> And here's another one we've seen. <<zebraRoverNat.jpg>> If you get other pictures, surely forward them over! Joel Baskin 1966 IIa SWB X-deleted- [Attachment zeerover.jpg removed, was 994 lines.] X-deleted- [Attachment zebraRoverNat.jpg removed, was 309 lines.] ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Norman Lewis <norm@kpco.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:54:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Chassis numbers So what about suffix H?? Very late Ser IIa's had suffix H serial chassis numbers, but its not on your list. Are you sure about the suffix F, as I seem to recall that F was skipped? Also, there seems to be some misconception among some list members regarding fenders and headlights. Late IIa Land-Rovers had front fenders which were essentially identical to those on Ser III, so if you have a suffix G or H Ser IIa with headlights in the fenders, this is correct for the period. It's not likely a case of the fenders having been changed. Now if it's an older suffix, most likely they have been changed. Norm Lewis ________________________________________________- > From: "Kenner, Dixon" <Dixon.Kenner@ms.rc.x400.gc.ca> > Date: 23 Jul 1998 11:38:00 -0400 > Subject: chassis numbers > Suffixes in Chassis Serial numbers > A 10/61 to 3/63 > B 3/63 to 6/65 > C 4/66 to 4/67 > D 4/67 to 3/68 > E 3/68 to 3/69 > F 3/69 to 4/69 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)] > Axles I have A, B and F. Dunno about CDE. > ------------------------------ ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CAPTPAYNE@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:00:23 EDT Subject: Re: Would you be angry if... Yes, I would be angry. Ask the service manager why it was replaced, then go from there. Don 94D90 #1331 ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:12:12 -0400 Subject: (no subject) unsubscribe lro-digest ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:45:30 EDT Subject: David Ashcroft's transfer case conversion kit? Are their any opinions on the Ashcroft conversion kit? This allows a 32% increase in the high range. The price is comparable to having an overdrive and the cost is a little less. Installtion is probably harder than the o/d. Their site is http://www.autoconv.com/transfer.htm#series Seems like an excellent idea. The vehicle I intend to use this on is a '63 Dormobile. The motor is the original 2.25 but that may give way to an Iron Duke and I'd like to retain the strenght of the IIA transmission. I'll be at Greek Peak. As luck would have it, I have a meeting in Schenectady on the 30th. The timing couldn't have been better! If anyone has a free seat, let me know. As Ben Smith and TeriAnn will attest, I'm a BUFF (big ugly fat .... fellow). I'll be in a rental car so do laugh too much! I'm especially looking forward to some of the eastern folks who have only been known across the 'net for the last 4 years! Cheers, Gerry Elam PHX AZ USA '73 Series III "Tigger" (daily driver until it hits 110 F / 43 C) '64 Series IIA Dormobile "Humpty Dumpty" (currently in pieces) '95 Disco "Great White" ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:57:22 -0400 subscribe lro ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "bill.di" <bill.di@mci2000.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: PSP Matting Art sent: >Bill Di sent the web site for the PSP matting--MANY THANKS!!! You're certainly welcome! Note that I have not yet tried something like this, so others may have unique thoughts on their use. But they sure look like the could be worthwhile on some relatively flat and sometimes puddly roads we run near El Malpais National Monument. When I spoke with Sherry at Calumet, she volunteered that they would pick out the least rusty ones to send. So it sounds like they may have a few in pretty rough condition. When ordering, it may be worth asking what kind of shape the pieces are in that they are sending. They should at least be able to function as advertised - moving motorhomes on soft ground. Bill in Albuquerque ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:35:35 EDT Subject: Series III question, oil seal, front hub area I've been losing oil out of one side of the front hubs. I originally thought it was the swivel seal and ordered a couple in anticipation of changing it tomorrow. After letting it sit for the last two days, I noticed that the oil leak was perhaps a little more inward than it might be from the big oil seal on back of the swivel housing. Looking at several different manuals, it appears that another seal in the general area is the oil seal in the axle tube. It appears this seal is to keep oil from the diff out of the swivel and I assume it works the other way around too. Two questions: does this sound feasible? Is this the same seal as used in the rear hub? I have a Series IIA parts book and it is the same part number. I assume that the Series III is no different. Right? (Opps..... three questions!) Any assistance is greatly appreciated! Gerry Elam PHX AZ '73 Series III 88" soft-top, Tigger '63 Dormobile, HD (Humpty Dumpty/Home Depot/HeavyDuty/Hard...nevermind) '95 Discovery, Great White ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:43:30 EDT Subject: stupid remarks "The price is comparable to having an overdrive and the cost is a little less. " I'm not sure what I meant to say .... too many hours at work this week. The cost is less than what most vendors sell the o/d for but the installation would be more difficult. By the time you add shipping to the US, the cost is beginning to approach that of the o/d. Sorry for the confusion! Gerry "it's been a long week" Elam ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: MRogers315@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:11:59 EDT Subject: Re: Freelander in the US? >Nothing personal - the Freelander should look nice beside the Disco >Did you buy the Disco based on engine knowledge? >I think they will be here in 2001 - engine TBA. It will be a slightly lengthened version of the Freelander than we have here in the UK in order to accomodate the KV6 engine currently being used in the MG. This engine is currently being built by Cosworth, but some doubt surrounds the future of this arrangement now that it is rumored BMW will stop providing engines for Rolls Royce (now owned by VW / Audi who also own Cosworth). Does that make sense? I have re-worded it twice and it still confuse me!! Mike Rogers Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid + Rolling RR chassis (awaiting the right body) ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "A Big Viking" <aviking1@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:03:00 PDT Subject: CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE!!! To all the subscribers of land-rover-owner but most of all the people that keep it running! I wanted to take the time and write you a sincere "THANK YOU!" note and congratulate you on a job well done! Collecting automotive blueprints is one of my hobbies and it has cost me many years to come to the current count of 329 different prints, which makes it one of the most important collections in the world in private hands. Since one month and 4 days I have a website which displays this collection. Setting up this website has cost me litterally 100's of hours working on my computer, all done in my leisure time. People who have taken the effort of setting up a website themselves will know what I mean and I don't mean those people that have just a homepage showing a picture of the wife, the dog and a car! When I do have doubles available of most of the prints, I do announce that these can be made available which, to most owners of such a car, is a nice addition to their own collection of automobilia. Since it is financially impossible for me to have previews made of all 329 prints at once, I have to do this in batches and take it by popular demand. In total, one must reackon that before a preview is actually loaded, it has cost me ca. USD 100.00 to get it there. Just multiply by 329 and you get the picture... Now, half the fun of a website is seeing traffic and getting comments from visitors, either positive, constructive or negative. People can e-mail me when they have a sincere interest in seeing a preview of one of the prints that is not yet uploaded and I ty to get at least 10 new prints uploaded every week. When I have a new preview of a particular car drawing ready , I notify the person that had requested that preview that it is actually uploaded. I also notify the mailings lists that have a particular interest in that car... after all we share a common interest, the people on the mailing list in the car, and I in the print. Simple, right? Do you feel what I am getting at? YES, I did announce on your freaking mailing list that the preview of the Land Rover 88 is now uploaded and that the doubles that I have were available and YES, I encouraged you to take a look at the website! Well, thanks guys! Some guttless monster from your mailing list that did not even have the courage to reveal itself , complained to my e-mail provider that this was unsollicited e-mail and managed to get my e-mail account closed. I would like to say a sincere thank you for this completely unneccessay action. Do you have any idea of the consequences? Do you have any idea what this means in man-hours that I have to put in to get a new account established and changing the e-mail links on over 100 webpages of my site? It is common knowledge that each car, or even car model, draws it's own "public". In my homecoutry, the Opel Manta and Volkswagen Corrado have a reputation for drawing a rather dumb public. Should I base my general judgement on Land Rover Owners on how this mailing list has treated me? Does this mean that the average Land Rover Owner is an equally dumb, non-thinking, short-sighted opening in the lower-body? In a few minutes time, I will have the joy to take out the remaining Land Rover prints, taking care to leave one each in my collection of course, and thoroughly enjoy seeing them going up in flames! So guys, if you would have liked it to have one of these prints framed on the wall of your study, forget it! I hope that you are all very proud of yourselves and can brag about what you as a bunch of owners have accomplished! I am explicitely asking all of you NOT to respond to this message so that when I do get messages in that refer to this, they will be refered to your provider with a complaint for sending unsollicited e-mail. No regards whatsoever. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980725 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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