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From: MARCINKO3@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:15:36 EDT
Subject: Re: Group of LR's??

Call me crazy, but I have always called a group of Rovers an Armada. (Hence
the name)

Rover on...

Steve 
Armada Off-Road LLC

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:03:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Hoisting the guts

In a message dated 7/17/98 10:43:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
car4doc@concentric.net writes:

<< Hi All,
  Well I am sure I should know this but I will ask for advise anyway.  I
 am doing a frame over on a 109 regular.(Dad's Toy)  The new frame is
 rolling & I want to lift the old engine & trans in to the new frame from
 the old frame.  I have new mounts ready & now I wonder if I can or
 should lift the engine & trans as a unit.    Any one done this? >>

BTDT twice.  Works quite well with at tractor front end loader.  NB: The
transmission will tend to cause the whole unit to rotate downward so I wrap a
separate strap from the back of the transmssion (around the transmission
brake) to the bucket (or hoist) to counteract this.

Nate

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From: RWilli4013@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:06:44 EDT
Subject: Unsubscribe lro

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From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:20:57 -0700
Subject: Re: Solex Spindle Size

Paul Quin wrote:
> Does anybody know the exact size (diameter) of the throttle spindle on a
> Solex?.

Paul: Just measured a new shaft.  .3135"
      Fluctuated at the center of shaft, probably due to the cut out for 
the plate.

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:24:50 -0700
Subject: Re: A Leak of Rovers.

Russ Wilson wrote:

> LRO or Playboy.  I'm stuck with the LRO myself..
You know too much about me!

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:43:42 +0000
Subject: Solex Questions

OK the fumes must have gotten to me.....Of course I mean SOLEX not
Weber!  I'll rephrase the question again....

The PO had put a bolt in the top of the carb where the correction jet
goes, so it idled beautifully (with Full choke) but did little
else....stalled when I put the gas to her....  I took it out and put a
jet in, now it runs rrrrrich (with no choke)  lotsa smoke in the garage,
lost the back wall at one point!

Question is...what size jet goes in the correction tube?  I have a 240,
170 and a 160.

Cheers, Ian

-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:37:32 +1000
Subject: Greek Peak

Charles Wolf wrote:
>Unfortuanately, I will not be able to attend Greek Peak.
>I spent my formulative years bombing down those hills
>and talking about girls on the way up the chairlift.

You learned to ski young Charles - whilst still on formula.  That's the best
way to chat up girls, they just love babies.  8-)

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:34:12 +1000
Subject: Not just Freelanders

Douglas Boehme wrote:

>A 110?  Dream big!  I'm shooting for a 300Tdi 130!
>If it does become available, I'll be trading in my D90
> without a second thought.

Doug, they don't turn around corners on trails as well as a D90.
They are cramped in the back (both 110 and 130)

BUT I want one.  And I want a Series.  Don't ask me why.  The Rangie is far
more practical than any of them. My 2¢ worth

Regards,
Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'86 Range Rover 4.8L auto  "The Last Aquila"
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
check my web site at www.users.bigpond.com/hillman

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:30:24 +1000
Subject: Frank Elson

Has anyone heard from Frank lately?  He was pretty regular on the lists
until very recently.

I hope he hasn't had another heart attack.

Ron

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:13:29 -0400
Subject: 3 - 4 tube radiator

 Bill    -
At 60 mph you should not notice any difference in the rad cooling. between a
2 and a 3. In any wevent both typoes are significantly larger than the rad
that was fitted to the original car. One significant difference however is
in the type of radiator construction. The LR radiator is known as a  G.O.T.
Construction  ( gill over tube ) this type of rad is typically used in off
highway vehicles because there is more clearance between the gills ( the
copper plates through which the tubes pass ) and they are less likely to
clog with debris. The heat exchange performance is inferior to CT type which
was fitted to your donor car. These can be identified by the corrugated fins
between the tubes. This type typically has fine louvres in the fins which
can clog very easily and reduce performance. However in clean condition the
heat exchange performance is superior to the old LR type.

 Did the engine run cool prior to the rad change, or is it  the ambient
temperature change. 
What methd are you using to determine what the coolant temperature is ?
Vehicle temp gauges are notoriously inacurate. 
 What temp setting thermostat are you using. 
There is nothing wrong with running 210 deg F  water, at pressure the
boiling point is raised. ( Thi assumes you have a tight system with a good
pressure cap. ) 

 When you changed the rad did you change all the cowl arangement also, this
would be useful at low speeds. At high speeds the engine fan is less
effective than the speed effects.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:16:38 -0400
Subject: OIl press gauge

Sandy writes
Touble is, I now need a 1/4" male
BST to 1/8" male BST union to hook it up...at *that* is unavailable on this
continent....

 You  will find that a National Pipe thread fitting will fit. At these sizes
the pitch is the same, only the thread angle is different.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Elwyn York <eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 14:21:48 +0100
Subject: Wheels and stuff

Hi Folks

OK. Its a nice sunny warm saturday. I figured it would be OK to swap the
750r16 off-road noisy tyres for on-road biased tyres.  A freind gave me 5
205r16 with colway remoulds, the onroad type...

We also have a shed on its side, so had most of the tyres and wheels
holding it in its position, half up.

Once in the garden i found my 5 rims & tyres had gone down to 2. that is,
the ones not holding the shed up!

So. Some kind neighbour has helped themselves to 3 rims and tyres.... if i
find out who did it i will put the hi-lift it good use... Oh well. Just
have to stick to the Deestones. Bugger, aint it!!!

Cheers
EY
S3 '72 (Dented) Lightweight. "Green Brick"
Eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk & Http://www.ey-eg.demon.co.uk

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From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 06:53:59 -0700
Subject: switch on cable

>From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:40:06 -0500
>Subject: Name that switch/relay!

So what is the wiring relay/ switch which is directly above the starter
switch solenoid and directly below the fuse box?  It has three wires on
it connecting to two points.  It is attached to the firewall by a
bracket and appears to use to have some form of cable (old heater adjust
maybe?) underneath it but on the same bracket.

cwolfe

Hi Charles,
It sounds like the switch that is originally on the Choke cable to light
the cold start light when the engine warms as a reminder to push in the choke.

Bob B

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From: Dave Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:21:41 -0700
Subject: (no subject)

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From: JKwas61947@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:56:40 EDT
Subject: Transmission Breathers

Recently I've noticed a film of 90wt coating my back window.  It looks like
it's being pushed out the back of the transfer case.  I'm thinking that the
pressure's rising inside and forcing it out.

My question:  Where are the breathers on the tranny and transfer cases?  I've
looked and can't find them.  If they don't have breathers as stock, how do I
fit them?

Thanks

John Kwasnik
Sherburne NY

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@email.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:56:55 +0100
Subject: Re: Not just Freelanders

Hi Guys,

Just got back from Billing (it's about 2 mins from my house.....sigh!), what
a lot of VERY nice vehicles, except that ABORTION of a Land Rover - the
bloody Freelander.

I own an Explorer, okay, it's a big estate car - FINE. I like it, it's built
on a chassis, it can some rough handling, it's easily bellied, but it cr*ps
on boy racers. One 4 Litre V6 over here = 10 Vauxhal (Opel/GM) Nova/Corsas
okay! - BUT I KNOW IT CANNOT TOUCH A LANDY OFFROAD WITHOUT SERIOUS MODS.

At Billing Land Rover are 'selling' the FreeLander as an Off road vehicle -
GET REAL.

CRAP CRAP CRAPPITY CRAP

IT IS A TOY. A JACKED UP ROVER MAESTRO (did you get those in the US? -
British rust buckets) - Forget it, buy a Vitara or a Rav 4 if you want a
'hairdresser mobile' (as we call them over here) - at least they are sold as
pavement cars.

My 2 cents worth (is that 3/4 of a pence?)

Neil

Mines been beers with twigs in for some hours.........

P.S. Robin is for sale - some severe welding is in order..........Noi MOT
for this baby in the UK for a while!

1974 Series III - 'Robin' - SHJ 299M
1998 Ford Explorer - 'What Boy Racer? Where? I Can't see him!?' - NIB 4318
1998 Daewoo Lanos - 'Well, the wife has to take the kids to nursery in
something!'

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From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:45:21
Subject: Breathers

>I wouldn't bother spending $10 on new breathers that aren't even raised.
Just
>get 1/4" pipe fittings w/ the 1/8 NPT thread on the other end, some clear
1/4"
>hose from Home Depot (or fuel line, which costs more and you can't see
>contamination bubbling up in), and some 1/4 " in-line fuel filters and make
>your own raised breathers for about the same cost.  No water will get in if
>the end of the tube's not in the water.
>Plus this allows the axle to suck air in when rapidly cooled (immersed in a
>pond, for instance), which isn't a problem for most of Summit's customers,

but
>which is for us.  If the axle can't suck air in as it cools, it will
develop a
>vacuum inside and possibly suck water in through your hub or pinion seals.
>So go w/ the raised breather.
>your own raised breathers for about the same cost.  No water will get in if
>the end of the tube's not in the water.

You can also use the flexable brake hose, they screw into the breather hole
in the axle. The other end can then be raised and positioned where ever you
want to put it.

Jim Wolf

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 17:33:43 EDT
Subject: Re-A Cloud?? of Rovers.

How's about a Rattle of Rovers:-)

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
+ a rolling RR chassis awaiting the right body!

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From: "bill.di" <bill.di@mci2000.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Overheating

Have seen a few notes about overheating, so here's my problem if anyone has any 
offerings.

It's a 109" LR with 2.25 ltr 4 cylinder that overheats at highway speeds (~60 
mph) after about 15 minutes or so of pulling up a slight incline.  The needle 
gets into the red and, after shutting down, it won't start for awhile (~45 
minutes in  90 
degree weather) - turns over but none-to-little firing.  The overheating has 
also happened in the dead of winter, with of course a faster cool down time to 
next startup.  The radiator is probably series IIA, if that matters.  In the 
winter, I 
thought the problem was freezing coollant in the radiator tubes, but have since 
confirmed that the coollant is at a 50-50 mixture.  After it overheated the 
last time, we were fine as long as speeds were at or below 50 mph.

I recently opened it up to inspect the thermostat ... and there was none!  I 
suspect someone had previously removed it in an attempt to alleviate the 
overheating problem.  Both the radiator cowling and fan shroud are in place.

Being new to Land Rovers, I'm a little hesitant to finger the radiator as the 
culprit ... but that's what I suspect.  Ignition timing is okay.  I guess I 
could also have a significant blockage somewhere in the engine's cooling 
channels.  Am also 
wondering if it could be bad cylinder rings -> excessive blow-by of exhaust 
gases -> excessive heat up of cylinder wall -> overheating of coolant (you 
might recall some compression ratios I put out awhile ago, which were 113, 113, 
117, & 116).

Any and all offerings are welcome!

Bill in Albuquerque

P.S.  I suspect that the 45 minute delay to restart is because of vapor lock, 
or boiling in the carburetor fuel bowl as someone thoughtfully mentioned awhile 
ago.

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 17:58:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Frank Elson

In message <bulk.13109.19980718054703@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, The Becketts
<hillman@bigpond.com> writes
>Has anyone heard from Frank lately?  He was pretty regular on the lists
>until very recently.
>I hope he hasn't had another heart attack.
>Ron

He went to Billing at the beginning of the week he did tell us.

-- 
andy Smith

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From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:02:06 -0400
Subject: Differentials

Hi
  Can anyone tell me if the front and rear differentials are interchangeable?
  I'm referring to the unit as a whole; from the front of the driving flange to
where the bevel pinion housing mates to the axle case, and everything in
between.

Thanks in advance.
Dan.
'61 SII 88 HT.

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From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:31:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Freelander and defenders to US

From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 02:39:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Freelander and defenders to US

>I doubt very much, that Defender would be drastically changed from what it is
now, simply because of military contracts: to completely change their design
just for one market (not to mention, the risk of not doing very well), and
possibly lose military contracts, could be disasterous!

As I mentioned in a previous post, Land Rover has been contemplating the
redesign of the Defender for quite awhile.  But I don't think this
re-design concept is in response to the requirements of the US market.  As
I said, the Defender is extremely expensive to produce.  It's a
bolt-together vehicle, which means someone has to do all the bolting.  It's
not a vehicle that lends itself to automated assembly.  Land Rover got a
big military contract with the Wolf long-wheelbase Defenders.  However, I
suspect any redesigned version of the Defender would stand on its own
merits, and so would not jeopardize the company's ability to compete for
further military contracts.  In fact, a re-designed vehicle, especially one
that was cheaper to produce, could put Land Rover in an even more favorable
position to win military contracts.  If in the process they can stick in
airbags and side impact protection to meet US specs, fine.  But I doubt
that any major redesign effort will be spurred by a desire to once again
import the Defender to the US; it will be motivated by the need to make the
darn thing cheaper to produce.

Compared with their UK and worldwide markets, the US market for Land Rovers
is very small despite the large numbers of them that are seen in cities
with a wealthy component of residents.  There are so many competing
vehicles in the US in the form of home-grown pickups and sport utilities
that Land Rovers are simply not a cost-effective choice for someone who
wants a vehicle to use on the job.  In overseas markets, where often
virtually every vehicle must be imported, Land Rovers, particularly the
utility versions, are a viable choice for someone who wants to cart around
a load of plywood or plumbing fixtures.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
   Seattle, WA

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