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1 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us22Trevor has finally sprung...
2 Francois ADAMS [francois22Re: Hammer Rivets (?)
3 "Saunders.Richard" [Rich12RE: More on rivets
4 "bill.di" [bill.di@mci2025Alternator Alternatives
5 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 13RE: Brand New Range Rovers
6 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 23RE: Brand New Range Rovers
7 Benjamin Smith [bens@psa15Re: Brand New Range Rovers
8 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 33RE: Brand New Range Rovers
9 Adrian Redmond [channel624SIII 88 on the road again
10 Adrian Redmond [channel635Re: Brake test lamp circuit
11 SPYDERS@aol.com 19Re: Re: Hammer Rivets (?)
12 SPYDERS@aol.com 18Re: Hammer Rivets (?)
13 asfco [asfco@banet.net> 11Re: Source for closed end rivets
14 asfco [asfco@banet.net> 19Re: Sorry==the rest of the message
15 "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" 37RE: Hammer Rivets (?)
16 Mark Perry [cmperry@auto10Re: Brand New Range Rovers
17 Brian Cramer [defender@u27Canadian Imports
18 MRogers315@aol.com 25Re: The 90 hp 4 cyl.
19 "Faure, Marin" [Marin.Fa40Re: Brand New Range Rovers / M:F ratio
20 "Ray Burton" [Ray_Burton49Tweaking a Grey Market Range Rover
21 Faye and Peter Ogilvie [24Re: Rivet Numbers
22 Olafur Agust Axelsson [o26exhaust manifold problem
23 David Scheidt [david@inf15Re: Rivet Numbers
24 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 3250th celebration at Greek Peak
25 Tim Harincar [harincar@C74FS: '66 IIa 88 SW (*sniff*)
26 jory bell [jory@mit.edu>341970 2a fs (disassembled)
27 "MA Leger" [ma@wefa.com>25Re: Canadian Imports
28 Ian Harper/Donna-Claire 23Cold start
29 Ian Harper/Donna-Claire 25It won't stop...
30 CBeireis@aol.com 14Re: FS: '66 IIa 88 SW (*sniff*)
31 "duchanin" [duchanin@gir17re: Broken thermostat housing
32 asfco [asfco@banet.net> 23Re: Rivet Numbers ==More data
33 CIrvin1258@aol.com 15Re: I want my mug...


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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 8:24:19 -0400
Subject: Trevor has finally sprung...

I just installed the rear parabolics on the 109. Boy, does it sit up high 
now!
The only caution is that the original u-bolts aren't going to work...too 
little thread. I have some u-bolts from NAPA, which are 1/2 inch and 
required drilling out the bottom plate holes. Also, the parabolics 
compress very little when you drop the weight of the truck on 'em. I 
would consider some longer-travel shocks. I'll be getting to the front 
this weekend.
Also, use tons of copper grease or some other anti-sieze compound on the 
shackle bolts so's you can remove them in the future! Never know...

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Francois ADAMS <francois.adams@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:04:10 +0200
Subject: Re: Hammer Rivets (?)

about rivets ...

You can find pop rivets which are closed at both ends, i used some to
put some aerators on the rear top of the hardtop. They are not letting
water or air come in, and are as easy as traditionnal pop rivets to put.
They can be put on with the same tool than a standard pop rivet.

But I don't know where to fin theim !!!

Saunders.Richard> The Landrover pop rivets are very special as the blind end
is capped off.
Saunders.Richard> This stops water entering down the stalk hole and thus
entering the inside
Saunders.Richard> of the body of your LR and also stops the stub end of the
stalk from
Saunders.Richard> dropping out and making mess etc.

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:31:28 +0100
Subject: RE: More on rivets

There is an advert in Land Rover Owner some month back, or there is a LR
parts man in Owestry UK who can supply them if required.

If you require the address Email me etc.
Richard Saunders
UK

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From: "bill.di" <bill.di@mci2000.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Alternator Alternatives

Thanks to  DW, Paul in Victoria., ajr, BL, and APSG for sending thoughts on the 
compression ratios on my two 2.25 ltr engines ... honestly, my email-sent 
folder says I listed data on all four cylinders for both engines, but looks 
like you all only 
saw three.  Thanks again, as I now have what looks like a good game plan for 
checking things out - will send results later.

It is probably common knowledge here, but alternators may be much cheaper 
through your local auto store.  Including shipping and core exchange, two 
familiar LR parts suppliers list a LUCAS 16ACR 34 Amp alternator for greater 
than $119.  After some 
number tracing, one of our local stores in NM provided a LUCAS the next day for 
less than $80 that factory tested at greater than 40 amps (ordered one for a 
1972 MG Midget).  I could have had the original unit completely rebuilt at a 
local shop for 
even less, but did not want to wait much longer than a day.

Bill in Albuquerque
Living With The Beasts

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:16:05 -0500
Subject: RE: Brand New Range Rovers

Leasing is not that common around here, and the only LR dealer in the
country doesn't lease them. You have to buy them if you want them.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jonathan Lee <jonathan_lee@hrcc.on.ca>
Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com>
Fecha: Jueves 9 de Julio de 1998 07:11 PM
Asunto: Re: Brand New Range Rovers

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:20:54 -0500
Subject: RE: Brand New Range Rovers

And I thought that we had Killer Taxes for cars!!
:-0
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Terje Krogdahl <tekr@nextel.no>
Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com>
Fecha: Viernes 10 de Julio de 1998 02:12 AM
Asunto: Re: Brand New Range Rovers

>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Luis Manuel Gutierrez wrote:
>> trucks, since they are worth something around 100.000 US$ with tax
>If it's any comfort, a 4.6 HSE will set you back almost twice that amount
>here in Norway :-) Definitely including taxes...
>Terje Krogdahl

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)]
>http://www.land.rover.no
>1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol

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From: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:30:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Brand New Range Rovers 

In message <bulk.25283.19980710011011@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:
> > trucks, since they are worth something around 100.000 US$ with tax
> If it's any comfort, a 4.6 HSE will set you back almost twice that amount
> here in Norway :-) Definitely including taxes...

	Closer to $65,000 to $70,000 US before taxes for Range Rover (mkII) 
4.6 HSE.  I don't think our taxes are 50% yet.

Ben

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:49:05 -0500
Subject: RE: Brand New Range Rovers 

I dont know exactly the price for a mkII without the taxes, but the
Costarican tax rate goes around 97-100% over the import price plus the
shipping cost. That is for new or used cars.
If we had well maintained roads I wouldn't complain much, but roads here are
kind of a mess right now. I like to have off-roading off the road, not on
the road!
And to be fair enough with us citizens, next week we will have an increment
of 25% in the cost of petrol and diesel, (a new tax) just to cover the
expense of repairing the roads (or so they say). Petrol will be priced at
US$0.47 for a litre.
Aren't economics great?
:-[

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Benjamin Smith <bens@psasolar.colltech.com>
Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com>
Fecha: Viernes 10 de Julio de 1998 08:35 AM
Asunto: Re: Brand New Range Rovers

In message <bulk.25283.19980710011011@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you write:
trucks, since they are worth something around 100.000 US$ with tax
If it's any comfort, a 4.6 HSE will set you back almost twice that amount
here in Norway :-) Definitely including taxes...

Closer to $65,000 to $70,000 US before taxes for Range Rover (mkII)
4.6 HSE.  I don't think our taxes are 50% yet.
Ben

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:18:06 +0200
Subject: SIII 88 on the road again

My 1979 SIII passed its danish MOT today - after several long nights up
to deadline, we managed to assemble it in time.

So that's another frame up rebuild out of the way - though there is
still the rubber door seals and a few other luxuries to fix!

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:20:30 +0200
Subject: Re: Brake test lamp circuit

Thanks Terje!

At last an "official" diagram of this circuit. (But my diff. valve
switch is completely nylon, I guess one of the wires must ground it?

Terje Krogdahl wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Adrian Redmond wrote:
> > An interesting explanation Terje! But the differential valve switch is
> > nylon, though there is a metal ball at the bottom which marries with the
> Interesting enough to be found on page 70-1 of the SIII Repair Operations
> Manual, Edition 4, part. no AKM3648

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> http://www.land.rover.no
> 1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol - thoroughly dissected and put back together

-- 
Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:01:09 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: Hammer Rivets (?)

In a message dated 7/10/98 9:05:47 AM, you wrote:

>You can find pop rivets which are closed at both ends, i used some to
put some aerators on the rear top of the hardtop. They are not letting
water or air come in, and are as easy as traditionnal pop rivets to put.
They can be put on with the same tool than a standard pop rivet.

>But I don't know where to fin theim !!!

I got mine from Land Rover, but I only did because it was convenient; I'm sure
one could source them elsewhere at a little less cost.

--Pat.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:10:33 EDT
Subject: Re: Hammer Rivets (?)

I now know what hammer rivets are. Sounds like the "buck rivets" we sometimes
used at home. I grew up learning to call them buck rivets for some reason.
Maybe it was the Trademark Name they were commonly sold by in the Philippines.
Over there, on some islands, it doesn't matter what brand your motorbike is,
they call them "hondas" as a generic catch-all. So maybe Buck was the US
company that dominated the Hammer Rivet supply over there. Or maybe it was $1
for a box...

I went and had a look around the 110 today, and all the rivets look like pop-
rivets, but the kind with the sealed end.

--pat.

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:30:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Source for closed end rivets

You can order the closed end rivets from Mcmaster-Carr in New Jersey
phone number 908-329-3200
part numbers as follows:	
AD 64H 
AD 66

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:35:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Sorry==the rest of the message

asfco wrote:
> You can order the closed end rivets from Mcmaster-Carr in New Jersey
> phone number 908-329-3200
> part numbers as follows:
> AD 64H
> AD 66H

each box contains 250 aluminum rivets...they are the same as Rovers
North uses
cant remember what they cost but they were cheap 
you will need 1 box of each to do the rover
Rgds
Steve Bradke

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From: "Luis Manuel Gutierrez" <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:15:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Hammer Rivets (?)

In Costa Rica poeple call "Canfin" to kerosene, and I always wanted to know
why.
Recently I found out that during the 1800's the kerosene that was sold came
in cans, and on the outside of the cans it said something like "can filled
with...", so thats where that name came from.

Sometimes its interesting to find out why some cultures have special names
for common things.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: SPYDERS@aol.com <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Para: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com>
Fecha: Viernes 10 de Julio de 1998 12:13 PM
Asunto: Re: Hammer Rivets (?)

>I now know what hammer rivets are. Sounds like the "buck rivets" we

sometimes
>used at home. I grew up learning to call them buck rivets for some reason.
>Maybe it was the Trademark Name they were commonly sold by in the
Philippines.
>Over there, on some islands, it doesn't matter what brand your motorbike
is,
>they call them "hondas" as a generic catch-all. So maybe Buck was the US
>company that dominated the Hammer Rivet supply over there. Or maybe it was
$1
>for a box...
>I went and had a look around the 110 today, and all the rivets look like

pop-
>rivets, but the kind with the sealed end.
>--pat.

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From: Mark Perry <cmperry@autobahn.mb.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:25:02 +0000
Subject: Re: Brand New Range Rovers

More useless  .02 worth:

Now try counting the number of Discos in which the driver is *not* using a
cell phone.

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From: Brian Cramer <defender@uscom.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:43:28 -0400
Subject: Canadian Imports

Hi All !!

I've bought a 1960 IIa in Ontario, and need some advice as to its
importation into the States. What is involved? Who's done it? Any hassles?
Any advice? What would you do differently now? 

Thanks in advance!!

Cheers,

Brian Cramer

'94 D90 (#1251)									
(888)434-4678 office
'90 RR County									
	(609)665-4451 office fax
'70 IIa Lightweight								
	(609)273-9708 home
'89 Range Rover (For Sale: $10,495 OBO)			(609)458-6671 cellular
'60 II SWB (soon)								
	ICQ #5696173	

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:55:12 EDT
Subject: Re: The 90 hp 4 cyl.

In a message dated 09/07/98 10:59:58 GMT, you write:

<< Displacement of British car engines seems to have had more to do with tax
 structure on the rainy island than on the needs of the export market.
 
 Paul Donohue >>

I do not think tax sructure has ever had anything to do with it (we pay the
same vehicle tax (road fund licence) regardless of displacement). The price of
fuel has encouraged more economical engines, Land Rover have never worried
about that though.

I think it is simply that they always concidered the engines powerful enough
for any purpos on our small island. Also of course had they fitted a more
powerfull engine look at everything else they would have had to re-design to
take the power, brakes, transmision, axles, not to mention our twisty roads!.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybyid

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:12:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Brand New Range Rovers /  M:F ratio

East of Seattle in the upmarket towns of Bellevue, Redmond, Woodinville,
and Issaquah, Discoveries are almost (well, not quite) as common as
Grand Cherokees, Ford Explorers, and Ford Expeditions (the newest
suburban status symbol in Seattle).  It's been my observation that the
majority of the Discoveries are being driven by women.  However, this
may be because the husbands are still working late at the office to pay
for the gigantic house than seems to be a required option on every
Discovery sold in the area.  In all fairness, almost every Expedition I
see is being driven by a woman, too.  Both of my coworkers who bought
Discoveries in the past few years have purchased them for their wives to
use.

The handful of Defenders I see in my area have always been driven by
men.  The Range Rover Classics that I see tend to be driven by men.  I
see more women than men driving new model Range Rovers.  I also see more
young women driving Jeep Wranglers than men.  But perhaps I just don't
notice the ones with men in them.

Almost every Porsche Boxter I've seen recently  (there aren't that many
around here yet) has been driven by a woman, as are the majority of the
BMW Z-3s.

I guess what all this proves is that women have better jobs and more
money than men, and probably better taste, too.  On the other hand, I've
never seen a woman driving a Series Land Rover in this area, so maybe
the "better taste" statement is incorrect...

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: "Ray Burton" <Ray_Burton@usairways.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:21:28 -0400
Subject: Tweaking a Grey Market Range Rover

     I appologize for posting this on the leaf-sprung digest, but I can't
gat any response from anyone on the coil-sprung list and hope that some
series owners, who have both will help me with my "Grey Market" (pre-LRNA)
Range Rover and obtaining parts to bring it back to roadworthy condition
prior to attending Greek Peak.

     Last month, I purchased a 1984 German spec Range Rover.  I am now in
the process of getting it back into good roadworthy condition.  One of the
previous owners had
1. removed all of the pollution control equipment,
2. removed all of the AC equipment, cutting off the hoses at the firewall
and
3. de-tuned the ignition to 10 degrees after TDC.  I believe this may have
done in order to get more power for hauling a trailer.

     I am trying to add an electronic ignition from HP Imports.  They
needed to know which distributor is on the vehicle.  I understand that
there were 3 different distributor set-ups on Range Rovers.
     1. 35D8 with vacuum advance
     2. 35D8 with vacuum retard
     3. 36DYL8
(The distributor on mine is marked "64420642".)
Does anyone know which one is used on an '84 and will the removal of the
pollution control equipment affect it.  Also, has anyone done this
conversion and are they happy with it?

     Does anyone know which AC was installed in '84?   I understand that
they used a variety of AC units over time, including York and AC Delco.

     The swivel ball seals are leaking on both sides, so I thought that
this would be the perfect time to do the Land-Rover upgrade to moly-grease.
Does this vehicle have the larger old swivel balls or the current smaller
balls?  And what is the part number for the complete seal kit for the
swivel balls?

Please respond back to: Ray_Burton@usairways.com

Cheers,

Ray Burton
'64 109 SW
'70 88
'84 RR

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From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:21:17 -1000
Subject: Re: Rivet Numbers

You say one box of each rivet but what are the each???  What size and/or
type of rivet do each of the numbers correspond.

Mahalo for your research but would appreciate if you could clarify the above.

Aloha Peter

At 02:35 PM 7/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>asfco wrote:
>> You can order the closed end rivets from Mcmaster-Carr in New Jersey
>> phone number 908-329-3200
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 6 lines)]
>> AD 64H
>> AD 66H
>each box contains 250 aluminum rivets...they are the same as Rovers
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)]
>Rgds
>Steve Bradke

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From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@rhi.hi.is>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:43:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: exhaust manifold problem

Hi!
I havent looked on the list for weeks so dont know what the current topics are 
- but Im pretty sure it isnt exhaust manifolds which Im having trouble with. 
The thing is that two out of the three bolts that hold the exhaust pipe to the 
manifold broke 
- so I took the piece to a garage and they got the bolts loose and I thougt 
that would fix my noise problem which had been evolving for some time - I 
blaimed the loose bolts straight away - but when they had been replaced by new 
ones the exhaust 
noise was still there as I had done nothing at all! - The manifold came off 
again and I noticed that the face of the exhaust manifold was not completely 
leveled off with the face of the inlet manifold - I was wondering if it is 
supposed to be like 
that or if it is possible that the garage heated the manifold to such extend 
that it has warped.  In few words - I was just wondering what could have 
happened! - Any opinions??

Olafur Agust

olafura@rhi.hi.is

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:50:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Rivet Numbers

On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Faye and Peter Ogilvie wrote:

> You say one box of each rivet but what are the each???  What size and/or
> type of rivet do each of the numbers correspond.

Mcmaster-carr have a web page at http://www.mcmaster.com , which has a
catalog search function.  It depends on Javasript, which I won't run.

David

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:04:52 -0400
Subject: 50th celebration at Greek Peak

Planning for the North American 50th celebration is proceeding apace,
complicated somewhat by you folks not sending in the registration forms.  I
hear these rumors of "a caravan of 40" proceeding up I-81, but I'll wager
that not five of these folks have bothered to send in the paperwork.  A lot
of the arrangements - especially the meals, which you will not be able to
purchase on-site - need to be taken care of in advance.  Important things
like how many kegs and portapotties.  So if you haven't registered, be
prepared to go thirsty and then stand in a very long line....

We are going to cut off pre-registration one week from today, the 17th of
July.  If you haven't mailed your form by then, most likely it won't get
there in time.  Mail it after that date and you'll have to pay (again) at
the gate.  

To download the registration form, go to <www.rover-clubs.org>

Hope to see y'all there!  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Tim Harincar <harincar@Camworks.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:21:38 -0500
Subject: FS: '66 IIa 88 SW (*sniff*)

Hi all,

After much consideration, I've decided to try and see if I can find a
good home for my '66 IIa 88 Station Wagon. Some of the old timers around
here probably remember my Frame Replacement logs, posted every week
while I did a frame over alone in the dead of winter. After being on the
list for 4 years and learning much from everyone here, it's going to be
a sad day to part with it. However, I'm planning to move to a
plushmobile, I've had my eye on a Disco for a while and it will be
really nice to be able to take the whole family on adventures. I not
leaving the fold altogether. 

Ok, here are some stats:

Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle: '66 IIa 88 Station Wagon, serno 31800441
(see
http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/Series/FAQ.S.chassis_numbering.318a.html
for production information)
Color: Poppy Red
Price: $9,000

Details:
- Oll original style repairs, no hacks.

- Perfect frame, no rust. Since replacing it two years ago I've
spotlessly maintained it (replacement was from a southern US '69).

- *Galvanized* Bulkhead. Replaced when I did the frame & painted to
Rover specs

- 90K miles

- Complete documentation, all parts from RN or BP (except for a few
things from England)

- During frame over, replaced all piping, wheel cylinders, clutch
master, clutch & break peddle towers, reservoir; mud shields; shocks
(RS5000), bushings, bumpstops, check straps, U-bolts & rear springs;
floor panel, tunnel cover.

- Zillions of other little things - new battery, Zenith carb, exhaust
manifold, exhaust pipes & hangers, spin-on oil filter adapter, voltage
regulator, generator, many other parts as well. Good tires.

- All the SW goodies (ORIGINAL EQUIP) - trop. roof w/vents, alpine
windows, deluxe (dished) bonnet w/spare, inside trim, rear ambulance
door, sliding rear windows, split jump seats, bulkhead insulation, PTO
throttle (not currently mounted), floor mats, kodiak heater (newer core
- great heat!), ashtray.

- Center seat belt, rear mud flaps

This Rover has been lovingly maintained with the help of this list.
Email with questions. I can also put some photos out for those that
would like...

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@camworks.com
Camworks, St. Paul, MN
http://www.camworks.com
Internet Solutions that Power Business 

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From: jory bell <jory@mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:50:21 -0700
Subject: 1970 2a fs (disassembled)

so i have been going back and forth as to which of my 2 rovers to sell, and
which to keep.

i am thinking i should sell the 1970 2a which is disassembled in my
warehouse in san francisco. it has a n awesome frame. good running gear
(but a dead engine). the body panels are good - i think pretty much without
dents. the body has been taken apart and is also stored inside (it was
going to be a restoration - the panels currently sport a very creative home
done camo pattern). hard top. there was some indication the engine is
reparable without too much hassle, but i can't make warranties since this
was from a preliminary teardown.

it comes with a full length roof rack / ladder, electronic ignition, rear
door mounted spare, wide wheels/tires.

the whole vehicle is rust free, including the very tasty firewall (the
complete lack of rust was one of the things that keep making me think i
should keep it for future restoration, but 5 cars is just too many! and i
haven't been able to actually list the ser III forsale, soo.... :)

this car was a daily driver until the last year when it experienced engine
problems and was taken off the road for repair and a frame up resto - only
got as far as disassembly down to the rolling frame).

i am not sure on price, though i am not desperate to sell. serious
inquiries (and value estimates :) are welcome. thanks.

::jory

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From: "MA Leger" <ma@wefa.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:59:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Canadian Imports

I'm a canadian living for the past 8 months in Philly, I've looked into this
and had to return my Miata to Canada because of issues. I'm in the process
of bringing my Lightweight here to sell it as I just got a D-90... the
market is much better here !

It's easy but you need to get certain conformity forms and US Custom forms,
I can expand on this if you would like. All the info is on the web from
Customs and the NHTSB.

As to importing a car from overseas to Canada, it's a bit complex, but
easier than here... You may also note that parts and labor are cheaper in
Canada... you could import from Europe to Canada fix it up there and then
import the car to the US. I have a good mechanic near montreal (Quebec) for
20$ an hour (that's canadian dollars ! so multiply by 0.7 to put in in US$,
it's really cheap...). It could be possible to arrange for a person in
Canada to import the LR for you and sell it to you from there... at a
price... I could look into that...

Marc-Andre Leger '94 D-90

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From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:22:06 +0000
Subject: Cold start

Can someone explain the difference between the Solex cold start
mechanism (which I'm not familiar with) and the choke on a Zenith (which
I am)?  I'm rebuilding the Solex on my S1 and have yet to get it
running.   

Should I treat them as identical? ie pull out for starting, in for
running, or does it work differently....

Any help would be appreciated

Cheers, Ian
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:27:44 +0000
Subject: It won't stop...

One further thing...

I've just got the battery, starter switch and the ignition system
connected, so presumably I should be able to get the solex running.   It
actually did today for about 20 secs (very smooth) but as soon as I
tried to change the cold start lever, or add some gas it would stall.  
Any ideas?

Cheers, Ian

PS Since it was actually running today, I came across another
problem....HOW DO YOU SHUT IT OFF?  There's no key in the circuit, just
the starter button, so how do you get it to stop????
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: CBeireis@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:29:09 EDT
Subject: Re: FS: '66 IIa 88 SW (*sniff*)

Where at in Minneapolis, I have relatives that live in Wayzata, and Edina-I
could possibly persuade one of them to take a look if thats at all possible.
Tahnks and sorry to hear of your parting.

Chris Beireis
'88 RR
'80 IH Scout II Turbodiesel
'72 jag XJ6 Series 1

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From: "duchanin" <duchanin@girdwood.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:21:16 -0800
Subject: re: Broken thermostat housing
	charset="iso-8859-1"

If you have a series II (not IIa) 2.25 engine, have the head cleaned and =
magnafluxed. Chances are that you will find numerous cracks. If so, get =
a lla cylinder head. It'll fit on the ll block. Better yet, get a lla =
engine.I have a 1961 with a series ll engine. The head had about 10 =
cracks. I'm rebuilding a lla engine to install. Let me know if you need =
a source. I know where there are several available. Jim Duchanin

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:15:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Rivet Numbers ==More data

These are the specs. right off the box from Mcmaster-Carr

pop pack 250
AD64H 200 aluminum
grip range .126-.250  hole size  .192-.196

Pop Pack 250
RD66H  200
grip range .251-.375  hole size .192-.196

you will need a box of each if you are replacing the trim and are not
using hammer rivets

These are the same closed aluminum rivets with steel shank sold by R/n
hope this helps
Rgds
Steve Bradke

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:42:27 EDT
Subject: Re: I want my mug...

...Almost forgot...

Whilst on the subject of "skin mags", there was the March(?) issue of
Penthouse, in which the cartoon at the back featured a  Series III! Can't
remember if it was a SWB/LWB, but I believe it was a SWB. (never could fint it
on a newsstand)

Charles
P.S...This was in reply to Pat's post, on the August Playboy. (btw)

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