1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 07:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fitting Seat Belts I am fast approaching the seat belt part of my swb IIa restoration so this is a good opportunity to add my two cents worth and to ask some questions. *In my experience with open top cars, it is ill advised to install 3 point belts if there is no roll over protection, i.e. roll bar. A rollover would be deadly. This would apply to open series vehicles and those with soft top rails. This makes the question of what to do with the third mounting point on a softtop vehicle moot. * Rollbars in close proximity to the drivers head can do serious damage to owners skull in a side or oblique rear impact. Of course, a rear impact is damaging regardless due to no headrest. *VW Rabbit lapbelts are a good alternative to the originals and rarely give difficulty, although being submerged in muddy water will nodoubt modify their behavior. The rear belts are retractable lap belts. *Most vehicle events involving high performance antics (no Land-Rover content) require belts to be worn even if they were not originally installed, similar to the requirement for *helmets*. Insurance and concern for participants welfare is a funny thing. *I am considering installing headrest seats and 4 point belts in my truck. The logic is that when soft-topping it, I will use the lap belt only, and when the hardtop is on, or I decide to install a rollbar, the shoulder belts can be used. They can be mounted to the galvanised brace behind the seats. Does anyone have experience doing this in a swb IIa? *Has anyone purchased seats from advertisers in LROI? What is the quality? What company is recommended? Ruthrfrd@borg.com 62 SWB IIA "Gromit" ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 07:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Galvanised Bulkhead The thread on bulkhead galvanising has me wondering, how do I keep the door hinge nut plates from becoming "welded" to the doorposts, preventing hinge adjustment? This is the only thing that prevents me from following an ever growing group experiencing "eternal bulkheadedness". This doesn"t apply to SerIII's as they use a removeable nutplate installed from the outside. Ruthrfrd@borg,com 62 SWB SERIIA "Gromit" ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Jeffrey Jackson" <jcjcj88@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 08:38:15 -0400 Subject: Looking for Neil Sheridan's e-mail address Sorry for the bandwidth, but I've lost Neil Sheridan's address; if anyone has it, thanks in advance for sending it to me off-line. Time to start making plans for Greek Peak. BTW, I've transferred jobs and my new address is jcjcj88@email.msn.com Good to be back on the list. Jeff Jackson Waterford, CT 73 SIII 88 (Camilla) ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Jeffrey Jackson" <jcjcj88@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 08:44:01 -0400 Subject: Smoke gets in your eyes (well, their eyes, actually) Camilla has a tired petrol 2.25 (nearly 200K on the clock) which runs cleanly at speed but emits a puff of oil smoke when accelerating from a stop. Oil psi is OK (45 or so at "cruising speed", 20 at idle). Is this the symptom of a bad exhaust valve? Rgds, Jeff Waterford, CT ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: christopher seaman <gpzrider98@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 06:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?') you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. ---"\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com> wrote: > >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Marsden <Richard> writes: > Richard> Well, I get 60mph no problem - 70mph under the > Richard> right conditions in a 109" with the 2.25l petrol > Richard> engine. You didn't say whether you had petrol or > Richard> diesel... [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)] > -MM > ** 'lro' mailing list information from 'majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net' > >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Marsden <Richard> writes: ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: christopher seaman <gpzrider98@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 06:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re-Breckland LRC 50 th Bronze Green with envy. ---MRogers315@aol.com wrote: > Christopher > I went along on Sunday and it was quite good, plenty of trade stands and an > auction 3pm. Exelent off road course, better in fact than other fun days held > at Bircham. Only downer was that it was rather poorly attended. > Does this make you bronze green with envy or just a little NATO matt. > Mike Rogers > Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid > ** 'lro' mailing list information from 'majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net' > at Bircham. Only downer was that it was rather poorly attended. ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:38:26 -0400 Subject: Clarion Radio I have a Clarion model 9770RT. I filed the insytuction book away in a safe place, so safe in fact that I cannot find it !! Can anyone help me with the color code for the connecting wires ? There are several groups of wires,1) a red, a black and a yellow fused wire. 2 ) a grey, a purple a green and a white 3) a blue/ white. a purple/black a green / black a white / black and a grey black. two grey wires with phone plugs marked r and l which I assume are the speaker connections. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Lawrence Lee <lawrencelee_tc@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 06:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: happy holidays To all American Listers, Best wishes on your Independence Day == Lawrence Lee Blk 22, Sin Ming Road, # 11-216 Singapore 570022 Tel: (65) 456 7815 Mobile: 9 684 3678 Land Rover SerIII 109, 2.6l "Kerbau" A Malay name for Water Buffalo. One that PREFERS to stay in mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:53:05 -0400 Subject: seat belts >Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you fit seatbelts properly in a soft-top like my 109"? -MM Rover part # 395252 and straps 395254 and 55. It is basically a plate with a weld nut to take the belt fixing. It fastens on the top of the seat bulkhead. ( low level as a opposed to higth level for hard tops etc. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: QROVER80@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:49:44 EDT Subject: Re: Clarion Radio I THINK that the wiring codes are as follows. There are several groups of wires,1) a red, a black and a yellow fused Red, to Igniton switched + Black, Radio ground PROBABLY NOT speaker ground BTW if it dosen't allready have one you should put a fuse in this circut too. Fused yellow, Constant + for the pre set memory and clock wire. 2 ) a grey, a purple a green and a white These are your speaker connections front ?? 3) a blue/ white. a purple/black a green / These are your speaker connections rear ?? black a white / black and a grey black Probably speaker grounds front and rear. ?? two grey wires with phone plugs marked r and l which I assume are the speaker connections. Those are pre amp outs for an external amplifier. NOT regular speaker outlets. Don't worry too much about the speaker connections they can be sorted out by trial and error. Sort of like my normal Rover maintence :-) Quintin Aspin Oldest rover 80" at LRNA :-) Hey I got a cool dinky 80" for that so don't laugh. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Lawrence Lee <lawrencelee_tc@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 06:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Can't get into gear If anybody is out there on this festive day, I'd be grateful for any advice. The Rover refuses to get in gear! Changed clutch slave and have on a relatively new (less than 1000km) master pump. Adjusted freeplay to its max, but still I cannot get it into gear with the engine running. Any thoughts, advice warmly welcome. Hoping to go offroad tomorrow :-( Thanks. == Lawrence Lee Blk 22, Sin Ming Road, # 11-216 Singapore 570022 Tel: (65) 456 7815 Mobile: 9 684 3678 Land Rover SerIII 109, 2.6l "Kerbau" A Malay name for Water Buffalo. One that PREFERS to stay in mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:56:39 -0400 Subject: Axle shaft survey I have lost count of the short rear axle shafts that I have broken, must be dozens. I have only broken one long one. I am a skinflint so I only replace the broken ones. Tried to use genuine, not always certain that I got genuine. Also used a lot of pre stressed ones !!! I have broken several front shafts, but only the short ones. Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@SMDC.ORG> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:20:16 -0500 Subject: RE: Can't get into gear It sounds like the flexible hose might be bad. They tend to deteriorate and can act like ball valve. Cwolfe C. R. Wolfe M.D. Emergency Medicine Sun Dog Kennels SMDC Grouse and Woodcock English Setters Duluth, MN Alborn, MN ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:35:17 EDT Subject: Re: Clarion Radio In a message dated 7/4/98 9:37:16 AM, you wrote: > There are several groups of wires,1) a red, a black and a yellow fused >wire. 2 ) a grey, a purple a green and a white 3) a blue/ white. a >purple/black a green / black a white / black and a grey black. two grey >wires with phone plugs marked r and l which I assume are the speaker >connections. My *Guesses* Red, +ive power (switched off key?) Black, -ive Yellow, direct to + for "memory" 2) ?? 3) probably directl wired to speakers, with a center channel or bass channel two grey wires with phono plugs, pre-amp line output (needs to be hooked up to an amp) Maybe if you call Crutchfield they can clarify clarion wiring... they have a wwwsite... --pat ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Micky Cormack" <Micky101@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:50:28 +0100 Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?') >you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. My father's IIA Lightweight used to do 100+mph. 0-60 in about 10 seconds... He sometimes used to act as closing car on local motor rallies, scaring the living daylights of the tail-enders in their Escorts and Chevettes. He might have overtaken them if all 8 cylinders kept working at the same time and the alternator actually alternated... Cheers, Micky (101 in bits) ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:48:46 EDT
Subject: Re: Mysterious, Superfluous Hole - Gauges
In a message dated 03/07/98 15:19:12 BST, you write:
<< but who wants
a clock in a Series vehicle. >>
David,
you use the hour hand to time the 0-60 mph.....
Best Cheers
Frank
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I !__| [_]|_\___
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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:48:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Fitting Seat Belts
In a message dated 04/07/98 12:54:21 BST, you write:
<< Does anyone have experience doing this in a swb IIa?
*Has anyone purchased seats from advertisers in LROI? What is the quality?
What company is recommended?
>>
Trakers are superb quality - but the most expensive. Still yer gets what yer
payds for.....
Best Cheers
Frank
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I !__| [_]|_\___
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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 98 08:35:04 -0700
Subject: slow 2-1/4L engine...but it ran long hard trips
><< but who wants
> a clock in a Series vehicle. >>
>.
>David,
>you use the hour hand to time the 0-60 mph.....
>.
>Best Cheers
>.
>Frank
>.
Golly, that's what I thought the calender was for.
results of my engine tare down for a quick ring & valve job:
top ring broken in #'s 3 & 4
Badly burnt exhaust valve in #2
The machine shop that did the valves & installed the guides did all the
work wrong.
all bad seats, all worn valve guides resulting in all intake and two
additional exhaust valves unusable.
Springs too weak to spring
Oh did I mention multiple head cracks?
Total salvageable from the head = 1 exhaust valve, one set of spring
keepers.
Rocker arm bushings so bad as to be almost nonexistent in places.
Rocker shaft badly scored.
Lower radiator & bypass hoses very soft.
This is the engine that was vandalized by pouring dirt down the oil
filler tube & by the looks of things maybe down the carb just after a
complete rebuild.
I am no longer wondering why I had the slowest car in the Border to
Border trek, or the Red Rock desert trip through Arizona, Utah and Nevada
I just completed.
However I do expect the car to go a little faster on my upcoming border
to border run from California to New York and back. Or is it border to
border to border??
I have the pistons back in with new rings and rod bearings and am
awaiting the arrival of a reconditioned head & rocker arm assembly.
| TeriAnn Wakeman
| twakeman@cruzers.com
| http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman
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| "The Green Rover"
| 1960 109 two door
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]From: MRogers315@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:03:07 EDT Subject: Seatbelts UK Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.Wrote: >The ARC insists upon seat belt use in all competitions regardless of vehicle age. They do indeed Bill but the minimum requirement is still only a single lap strap. Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" wrote: >Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you fit seatbelts properly in a >soft-top like my 109"? I have three point static belts fitted to the hybrid, which is a rag-top one goes one side of the seat, one the other, with the third coming over the bulkhead from a mount tapped into the rear side capping. The central lower mountings pass through a hole in the bulkhead and bolt down throught the floor and a bracket welded on the chassis. The outer lower mountings bolt to a re- inforcing plate on the lower side of the seatbox, this is in turn bolted to the chassis outrigger. When I built the hybrid I had to fabricate the chassis/seatbelt brackets to duplicate those found on the standard Lightweight chassis. Mike Rogers Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:22:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?')
>>>>> "christopher" == christopher seaman <gpzrider98@yahoo.com> writes:
christopher> you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion.
??? OK, you've peaked my interest. Do tell.
-MM
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From: "\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:28:12 -0500
Subject: seat belts
>>>>> "William" == William L Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com> writes:
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you fit seatbelts
>> properly in a
William> soft-top like my 109"? -MM
William> Rover part # 395252 and straps 395254 and 55. It is
William> basically a plate with a weld nut to take the belt
William> fixing. It fastens on the top of the seat bulkhead. ( low
William> level as a opposed to higth level for hard tops etc.
Isn't this just asking for a broken collarbone (or worse)? I've never
put 3-points in the TR-4 for this reason. I've got a rollbar ready to
go in (as soon as the custom diagonals get cut and welded on), and after
that's done I'll have a fairly safe place to mount one. I'm thinking
that a rollbar for the 109 would be a more complicated affair, as the
bed doesn't seem to have the structural strength for even limited
roll-over support. Maybe some sort of slip-joint with appropriate bolts
and holes through the body so that everything can still be taken
apart...
-MM
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]From: Axel Pawlik <axelpawlik@tinet.ie> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:09:39 +0100 Subject: Inner Hub Bearing Stuck Well, one of those days... The leaking brake master led to rebuilding the wheel cylinders, "while I'm at it". Ah, one of the front bleed screws is stuck, better get it going. Hmm, can't get to it properly (109" brakes, bottom screw, steering arm in the way). What the H..., take of the backplate and do it more leiurely. Hmm, the hub doesn't want to come off. So, no I'm stuck with the inner bearing sitting on the axle, not wanting to budge. Turn it does, but the inner surface it runs on will not come off. Now, you mechanical geniuses out there, will I have to run and get an extractor, the three armed thing, to get it off? Have you been there, done what? slighty miffed, :-) Axel ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:51:56 EDT Subject: Language Subject: Language On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Ron Beckett, from down under, wrote: "I've been told that English is a bastardised language that is very hard to learn - ask any Aussie. Everyone will tell you we can't speak it 8-)" English is an erector set language (much like Land Rovers) made up of bits of Old French, Old Saxon German, a stray Celtic word or three and allowed to rust in the rain for a few centuries. Ron is right. First time I heard a bunch of Australians, it took me ten minutes to figure out what language they were speaking. After a few beers, they began to make more sense; by then it was my shout. Of course, after a few, even Dutch starts to make sense. Francois and the other non-native-english-speakers are to be credited for their successful efforts to communicate with us in English (despite English). The perspective from other parts of the world are a valuable part of the LRO digest. Paul Donohue Denver 1965 Land Rover 109 ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: christopher seaman <gpzrider98@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?') Beachy Head is a cliff where people (of a delicate disposition)like to comit suicide. ---"\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com> wrote: > >>>>> "christopher" == christopher seaman <gpzrider98@yahoo.com> writes: > christopher> you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. > ??? OK, you've peaked my interest. Do tell. > -MM > ** 'lro' mailing list information from 'majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net' > christopher> you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Dennis <dennis@i-lab.de>
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 22:57:08 +0200
Subject: Santana Break Cylinder
Hi
For my Santana 109 S III i need a repairkit for the main break cylinder.
It is a servo unit and it has the folowing number on its side: 2125 545
012 29M8
It looks like it was made by autoplas in spain in Pamplona.
If anyone has some informations about the part itself or any ideea where
I can get some more info about these Santana parts please write me.
Thanks
Dennis
Dennis.kuhl@hvr.siemens.de
dennis@i-lab.de
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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:29:24 -0300
Subject: Re: Can't get into gear
Lawrence Lee wrote:
> If anybody is out there on this festive day, I'd be grateful for any
> advice.
> The Rover refuses to get in gear!
> Changed clutch slave and have on a relatively new (less than 1000km)
> master pump. Adjusted freeplay to its max, but still I cannot get it
> into gear with the engine running.
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> Land Rover SerIII 109, 2.6l "Kerbau"
> A Malay name for Water Buffalo. One that PREFERS to stay in mud.
What do you mean by adjusting freeplay to its max? Too much freeplay and
the clutch won't disengage. You should start to feel the spring being
compressed after 1 1/2 inches of pedal travel and have the clutch
completely disengaged with about 2 inches left on the stroke.
John and Muddy
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]From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <rosvall@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:19:02 +0000 Subject: Keonig Clutch..... To all: Anyone ever adjust the clutch in a Keonig winch? Any tips or info would much help. Thanks, Peter Rosvall rosvall@nbnet.nb.ca ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:48:10 -0300
Subject: Re: Smoke gets in your eyes (well, their eyes, actually)
Jeffrey Jackson wrote:
> Camilla has a tired petrol 2.25 (nearly 200K on the clock) which runs
> cleanly at speed but emits a puff of oil smoke when accelerating from a
> stop. Oil psi is OK (45 or so at "cruising speed", 20 at idle).
> Is this the symptom of a bad exhaust valve?
> Rgds,
[ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
> Jeff
> Waterford, CT
no
John and Muddy
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]From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:49:59 -0300 Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?') christopher seaman wrote: > you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. > ---"\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com> wrote: > > >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Marsden <Richard> writes: > > Richard> Well, I get 60mph no problem - 70mph under the > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 26 lines)] > > -MM > > ** 'lro' mailing list information from [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)] > > ** 'lro' mailing list information from > 'majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net' 600 ft even straight down won't get a Land Rover over 100 mph!!! John and Muddy ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 23:52:23 +0200 Subject: Re: Galvanised Bulkhead To prevent the hinge cage nuts from being "welded" to the doorpost when galvanising - remove them first - galvanise, then fit them again. I have just done this - well the new bulkhead came without cage nuts - so i galvanised (metalised / zinc sprayed) then fitted the cage nuts. Adrian Redmond CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 86 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 54 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk Visit our homepages! www.channel6.dk ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Bill Morrow <wmmorrow@sover.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:14:17 -0400
Subject: Land Rovers for Auction on the Web
Well, I guess it had to happend sooner or later. I found a site where
there are 4 ex-military (Belgium) LR's are for sale by auction. Check
them out at:
http://www.auction-sales.com/cgi-bin/getprod.exe?41275
They are located in Atlanta and have had the US DOT modifications for
use in the US. The auction ends on 7/6.
Now, if I could only convince my wife for the need of another LR.
Bill
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]From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:17:06 EDT Subject: Confession/4th of July Bill: Dont worry too much. I dont think a lot a people are all that aware of the irony. Even though our history books demonize the British during that period the British reputation in the US increased greatly during the world wars. Long last the Great Alliance! A few years ago I drove my (former) SIIA in front of a MkII Ferret Armoured Recon car that a local gun dealer had just imported. Looked a bit like a mini invasion by General Howe, circa 1993. No one noticed (or knew what they were seeing other than a couple of neat old trucks) and I got some compliments on my truck too. Cheers, Andy ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 12:26:38 Subject: Re: Land Rovers for Auction on the Web These are 4x2 not 4x4. Upset price is $14,995. Not a bad markup when they are selling in Belgium for 1/4th or less that amount. Not a deal in my mind. At 06:14 PM 7/4/98 -0400, you wrote: >Well, I guess it had to happend sooner or later. I found a site where >there are 4 ex-military (Belgium) LR's are for sale by auction. Check >them out at: > http://www.auction-sales.com/cgi-bin/getprod.exe?41275 >They are located in Atlanta and have had the US DOT modifications for >use in the US. The auction ends on 7/6. [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)] >Now, if I could only convince my wife for the need of another LR. >Bill ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "John C. Hinkle" <defender110@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:40:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Land Rovers for Auction on the Web They have them listed as being LWB, but it looks like a SWB Airportable. Chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:10:19 EDT
Subject: Re: slow 2-1/4L engine...but it ran long hard trips
In a message dated 04/07/98 16:35:42 BST, you write:
<< ><< but who wants
> a clock in a Series vehicle. >>
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>Frank
>>
Would all those of you who have lro-lite please THROW IT AWAY.
I didn't write the above.
At least once a day somebody using lro-lite puts out a fairly stupid ''you
write'' from somebody or other........
As email is supposed (one would think) to assist/help/facilitate the clear and
speedy sending of messages around the world, it might just seem that a system
which does not do that - such as lro-lite - is doing a pretty good
approximation of JUNK.
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:10:31 EDT
Subject: Re: Land Rovers for Auction on the Web
In a message dated 04/07/98 23:16:09 BST, you write:
Well, I guess it had to happend sooner or later. I found a site where
there are 4 ex-military (Belgium) LR's are for sale by auction. Check
them out at:
http://www.auction-sales.com/cgi-bin/getprod.exe?41275
They are located in Atlanta and have had the US DOT modifications for
use in the US. The auction ends on 7/6.
Now, if I could only convince my wife for the need of another LR.
>>
If they are the Belgian-made Minerva models they may well be 2wd - and about
as useful as a chocolate fireguard.......
Best Cheers
Frank
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]From: verksted@juno.com (Tim Slown) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 16:25:07 PDT Subject: It's July 4th, Mr. Whitworth It's July 4th, a big day for slamming the British. Firstly, a bit of history. In the early 19th Century every British factory which needed to bolt something together devised their own fasteners to do it. Of course, this caused all sorts of compatibility problems. So, along came Mr. Whitworth (I forget his first name) who developed a standardized system of coarse threads. 55 degree thread angle and rounded roots and crests. This standardization was Good. Along with his threads came heads sizes for the bolts that were based on the length *along* the side of one flat, rather than across the flats. Hence, there is no simple fractional number for the length across the flats, which is why your American or metric wrenches don't fit. (a few sizes will be close enough to work) The fractional number on your British wrenches refers to the diameter of the bolt; not to the distance across the flats (which ends up being various weird dimensions). Some time later the Brits decided they needed a finer pitch for some applications, so another thread series was introduced (same 55 degrees). They also decided that the heads were too big for the bolts, so for most applications they switched to using the next size smaller heads. Because of this, and to add one more bit of confusion to life, one manufacturer will mark a particular wrench "3/8BS," while a different manufacturer will mark the very same sized wrench "7/16W.". The first thing any beginning British wrencher learns is that their machine has "Whitworth bolts." They think this is interesting, buy a set of "Whitworth wrenches," discover these wrenches fit their fasteners, and believe they now know everything they need to know about British fasteners. Unfortunately, at this point they know only enough to make themselves dangerous. Instead, what they *should* have said to themselves is "WHAT THE §%#!" ? what other weird things have the Brits done to the fasteners on this machine?" The answer to this question is: British Standard Whitworth (BSW) These are the'original', 19th Century, coarse-threaded industrial bolts. Because of their coarse pitch, they are more prone to vibrating loose, so are less used on vehicles. Except for threading into Aluminum (t.ex. crankcase studs), where a coarse thread is less prone to stripping than a fine one. It turns out that, except for 1/2" (where the Brits use 12 tpi, and the Americans 13 tpi) the thread pitches are the same as for American Unified Coarse (UNC). However, the thread *form* is different; Whitworth = 55 degrees; UNC = 60 degrees. In spite of this, mismatched nuts and bolts will mate nicely, so you're often to find UNC bolts or studs where BSW have been. British Standard Fine (BSF) A finer pitch series, analogous to the American Unified Fine (UNF), although -- unlike the case of BSW/UNC -- with none of the pitches in common with UNF. Many manufacturers commonly used a lot of BSF threads. CEI (Cycle Engineers' Institute) or BSC (British Standard Cycle) These are different names commonly used for the same threads. 60 degree thread angle, rather than the 55 degree of BSW and BSF. For sizes from 1/4" through 1/2" by far the most common are 26 tpi, although 24 tpi appear as well. Although the thread form and pitch is different, the head sizes on CEI-threaded fasteners use the same wrenches as BSW/BSF. British Association (BA) 47-1/2 degree thread angle. This is a metric thread system devised by the British for small screws used in components. Not metric like you might expect, but with diameters determined by a factor proportional to a power of the logarithm to the base 10 of the thread pitch in millimeters. (I couldn't possibly be making this up. Only from the English.) You can find lots of BA threads on anything British , but only for fasteners smaller than 1/4". BA fasteners have their own set of wrench sizes. Often, a set of "Whitworth" sockets will include a 0BA and maybe a 2BA--(bigger number = smaller size) socket. British Standard Pipe (BSP) Typical self sealing tapered pipe thread. Not too sure about this, but I think its equal to or very close to the NPT American sizes. UNF and UNC In the 1960's, when even the U.S. was thinking of going metric, some of the British companies decided it was finally time to scrap the old Whitworth-based system, and switch to....yes, you guessed it, American. Since they had lots of money invested in tooling, the switch wasn't made suddenly (or completely), so products from the late '60's and later had a mix of all sorts of thread forms. Typically, engine internals stayed with whatever form it used to have, while simple fasteners (e.g. holding the fenders on) switched to unified "None of the Above". While the above systems account for well over 98% of all threads you'll ever run across on a British product, some manufacturers couldn't restrain themselves from inventing a few oddball sizes of their own. This is why, when dealing with British machines, (especially motorcycles) you should assume nothing. You must have a pitch gauge and calipers. And finally Metric, All this "Whitworth" wierdness reportedly ended in 1975. verkstad@juno.com (not on the list) You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:03:20 +0200 Subject: Brake test lamp circuit These units are standard here in denmark on all series trucks since 1974 Both switches seem to be normally open - closing makes contact If servo pressure drops - the light comes on If one brake circuit fails - the light comes on The switches are wired in series, and seem to be in series with the test lamp. Which would imply... That both switches must be closed for the lamp to light. Which would conversly imply... That a fail on either servo or diff. valve will not make the lamp to light But... If your servo vaccuum pipes leak, the light comes on at low revs Which would imply... That the diff.valve switch must be ON for the servo switch to effect the lamp on Which would imply... That this circut seems to rely on a set of mutually exclusive circumstances... If the test llamp light is on (due to low servo)... then .... removing any one of the two pressure switch connectors will kill the lamp Which would imply... That they are wired in series.... Which doesn't make sense ---- Dont ask me - I have just reinstalled the wiring loom on a new firewall. They are in series, so how do they work? Or do they just satiosfy some obscure vehiocle safety requirement by making a lamp light up? Adrian Redmond CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 86 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 54 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk Visit our homepages! www.channel6.dk ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Elwyn <eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:56:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Speed (Or Rather 'What Speed?') At 18:49 04/07/98 -0300, you wrote: christopher seaman wrote: you could get 100mph+ with a Beachy Head conversion. ---"\"Mr. Mike\" Passaretti" <passaretti@sol.med.ge.com> wrote: >600 ft even straight down won't get a Land Rover over 100 mph!!! > John and Muddy Fit JATO Packs. Then they will. Make a helluva mess though! EY S3 '72 (Dented) Lightweight. "Green Brick" Eyork@ey-eg.demon.co.uk & Http://www.ey-eg.demon.co.uk ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 98 17:01:19 -0700 Subject: Re: slow 2-1/4L engine...but it ran long hard trips ;>>In a message dated 04/07/98 16:35:42 BST, you write: ;> ;><< ><< but who wants ;> > a clock in a Series vehicle. >> ;> [ truncated by lro-lite (was 10 lines)] ;> >Frank ;> >> ;> ;>Would all those of you who have lro-lite please THROW IT AWAY. ;> ;>I didn't write the above. ;>At least once a day somebody using lro-lite puts out a fairly stupid ''you ;>write'' from somebody or other........ Frank This LRO lite thing is a "feature" of the mail list server that reduces the volume of e-mail, You need to talk to the list administrator about disabling it. I agree the auto editor is a REAL PAIN and causes many messages to lose their original meaning. Most of the time I fool the auto editor by putting a symbol in front of the >. But sometimes I forget. Sorry for forgetting this time. TeriAnn Wakeman The Green Rover, rebuilt and Santa Cruz, California and maintained using parts from twakeman@cruzers.com British Pacific 800-554-4133 http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create beauty wherever you go. ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Lawrence Lee <lawrencelee_tc@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Can't get into gear ---john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: < What do you mean by adjusting freeplay to its max? Too much freeplay and the clutch won't disengage. You should start to feel the spring being compressed after 1 1/2 inches of pedal travel and have the clutch completely disengaged with about 2 inches left on the stroke.> Sorry, I meant adjusted freeplay to its min - there was no freeplay in the pedal, but still, the clutch won't disengage. Thought that there was too much freeplay previously, but I was wrong. Perhaps the clutch is rusted and stuck to the flywheel. The last time Rover was driven was 3months back :-( Any thoughts? == Lawrence Lee Blk 22, Sin Ming Road, # 11-216 Singapore 570022 Tel: (65) 456 7815 Mobile: 9 684 3678 Land Rover SerIII 109, 2.6l "Kerbau" A Malay name for Water Buffalo. One that PREFERS to stay in mud. ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980705 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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