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1 Charles Wolfe [cwolfe@d.25Re: Double clutching
2 Charles Wolfe [cwolfe@d.23Yikes!!! SO SORRY!!!
3 asfco [asfco@banet.net> 12Re: GB50LR operating this weekend....
4 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l11Re: GB50LR operating this weekend....
5 LEBLANC_CJ 17RE: COLD GALVANIZING
6 Martin Lough [martin@fwm24How do I undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises
7 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l20Re: How do I undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises
8 NADdMD@aol.com 19Re: How do I undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises
9 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l18Re: shop manuel 91 RR
10 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o24Re: I think I found my build order sheet...
11 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd21Re: I think I found my build order sheet...
12 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o14Re: How do I undo the dog nut
13 russw@lycosmail.com 26Re: felony theft or just good business practice?
14 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 26Undo that dog
15 "LEPRINCE Didier" [lepri32Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)
16 SPYDERS@aol.com 19Re: Re: I think I found my build order sheet...
17 Bas [9318860@law-fs3.lei26Fwd: amp.meter shaking
18 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema28BP's deal of the day - 6/24/98 -comercial content
19 Adrian Redmond [channel622Re: LRO
20 "Richard Clarke"[Richard14grease in front swivel housings
21 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l18Re: Fwd: amp.meter shaking
22 Frankelson@aol.com 22Re: Undo that dog
23 Frankelson@aol.com 23Re: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)
24 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml25RE: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)
25 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l19Re: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)
26 "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@sy14Looking For.........
27 "Wolfe, Charles" [CWolfe17109 IIA rear brake adjusters
28 Brett Storey [brstore@ib105OVLR B-day - the story continues
29 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema28Re: 109 IIA rear brake adjusters
30 Ari Myllyla [Ari.Myllyla13LockRight locker for LR Salisbury axle?
31 Martin Lough [martin@fwm22Timing chain Refitting
32 Martin Lough [martin@fwm17Land rover Shopping
33 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l12Re: 109 IIA rear brake adjusters


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From: Charles Wolfe <cwolfe@d.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:23:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Double clutching

One thing I have found.  To help putting in first or reverse from dead stop 
without any gears clanging .
. . Depress clutch, slip into third then either first or reverse. No double 
clutch needed.  It works, why
I don't know.

cwolfe

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From: Charles Wolfe <cwolfe@d.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:48:15 -0500
Subject: Yikes!!! SO SORRY!!!

I have just awarded myself the "major jerk award" for not realizing that I 
replied to the digest and
included the digest message in my reply.  A thousand apologies.  I have had 
some major computer glitch
this week that make any rover repair seem like a walk in the park.  After major 
loading, deleting and
reloading, my browser software had the default configuration and I was not 
aware that I was includeing
message.

Cwolfe
Sun Dog Kennels
Alborn, MN

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:06:04 -0400
Subject: Re: GB50LR operating this weekend....

Matt Wilson wrote of a special event Ham station in the UK....

Good idea here for the upcoming rally in Cortland, NY as well.../ any
interest ???
73
de WA2GMC

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:08:08 -0400
Subject: Re: GB50LR operating this weekend....

Re: Special event station:

More to the point, does anyone have anything other than 2m/440 in a Rover?

                    aj"Not me!"r

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From: LEBLANC_CJ 
</DD.XMRROUTE=Leblanc#l#u#r#Cj#l#a#r#AM#l#a#r#I22005/@csc-scc.x400.gc.ca>
Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:21:58 +0000
Subject: RE: COLD GALVANIZING

Thanks for all the responses on cold galvanizing.  The verdict is in,
hot dipping is the way to go.  I'll still be dropping in on buddy, I'm
kind of curious.  My e-mail address is scary but it's free.  You might
want to try CHARLES.LEBLANC@ATL.csc-scc.csc-scc.X400.gc.ca still scary,
still free but shorter. 

Thanks again

Charles
69 88

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From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:58:15 +0100
Subject: How do I  undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises

Thank you to all with advice on the above. I have now undone the dog nut 
and brut force was the winning method. I have also located the source of 
the clanking noise. The chain guide had been completely ripped apart by the 
timing chain, the securing bolts are no where to be found.

I have purchased new a chain, sprockets,  the guide and gasket.

As the old chain and sprockets look OK  I wonder what caused the guide to 
come off. Any Ideas

Martin Lough
Frank W Murphy Ltd. U.K.
Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext 245)
Fax: +44 1722 410088
email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk
Visit Our Website at http://www.fwmurphy.co.uk

martin@fwmurphy.co.uk

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:58:31 -0400
Subject: Re: How do I undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises

Re: Buggered chain guide:

Sounds like the tensioner may not be doing its job real well - if the chain
is loose enough to flap, it could easily destroy the pad, or knock it
loose.

Make sure the detent is working right, and that the sliding bit of the
tensioner is OK and doing its job. ALso, make sure the valving is OK in the
tensioner base, and is not clogged - same goes for the block port that is
feeding oil to it.

Did the pad have the proper lock tabs on the bolts?

                    ajr

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:04:28 EDT
Subject: Re: How do I  undo the dog nut/ Engine Noises

In a message dated 6/24/98 9:58:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
martin@fwmurphy.co.uk writes:

<< Thank you to all with advice on the above. I have now undone the dog nut 
 and brut force was the winning method. >>

Do tell, what brute force method did you employ?  Spanner on frame with
starter assist, long pipe with pounding (body or sledge hammer) or power tool
of some sort?

Just curious

Nate

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:22:50 -0500
Subject: Re: shop manuel 91 RR

Sorry, I dont work in a "shop"
Cant help you with the Rangie.
Try a Manual.

At 07:38 PM 6/23/98 +0000, you wrote:
> have been e-mailed about finding a shop manuel for a 1991 Range Rover. I
>though. I digress, George has asked about finding this manuel if anyone can

LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ
Departamento Legal - JCCCSA
lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
lgutierr@hotmail.com

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 10:35:46 EST
Subject: Re: I think I found my build order sheet...

I was so exited! I was poking around the car this morning, and I saw this 
crumpled up sheet of pink paper, so I contorted my arm and strained to pull it 
out.

The factory line build order! Wooohoooo, there are all the specs and 
instructions... wow! How did it get where it did? Gee, those blokes at 
Solihull must be too lazy to find a trashcan near the assembly line...

pat wrote:

>>Colour:    456  White-Alpine/Savarin     (what's Savarin?)

Was a brand of canned coffee that I remember mom having around when I was a wee 
lad.

What color is the interior?

DaveB

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:02:09 +0100
Subject: Re: I think I found my build order sheet...

 >I was so exited! I was poking around the car this morning, and I saw this
 >crumpled up sheet of pink paper, so I contorted my arm and strained to
pull
 >it out.
 >The factory line build order! Wooohoooo, there are all the specs and
 >instructions... wow! How did it get where it did? Gee, those blokes at
 >Solihull must be too lazy to find a trashcan near the assembly line...

Probably like the the BR/Railtrack stations: Can't have bins, 'cos the IRA
(,etc) like to blow them up for fun...

I doubt they'd realise it, but disrupting the Land Rover production line
might be comparable to hitting the British Army's "Ruhr Valley"

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 11:57:33 EST
Subject: Re: How do I undo the dog nut

>The pulley dog nut on my 88 SWB will not undo I have a "Snap-On" 5 foot 
>quarter inch drive on one and eleven sixteenth socket on the nut...snip
> I given all my strength  to undo the nut but the it will not move. Any 
>suggestions or any one experienced the same problem

you did undo the locktab, eh?

daveb

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From: russw@lycosmail.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:34:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: felony theft or just good business practice?

>  charge for replacing two swivel ball seals, in writing
>  parts   $140
>  labor   $820 >>
> Sounds like a scam. 
A scam?  Sounds more like a prison rape to me!!!  What are they charging, 
$200/hr for labor??  You should know what the posted labor rate is at the 
dealer, then if you get a bill like this you should go directly to your local 
attorney..

 Might be worth having a States Attorney look into ther
They would probably be very interested in an $820 labor bill for a job that 
should take 3hrs tops.

I know that folks from LRNA snoop around here from time to time I'd just love 
to hear what they have to say about this....    you out there LRNA???   Maybe a 
direct E-Mail to them with a request for a written explination is in order.

 

Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:20:52 -0400
Subject: Undo that dog

"William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com> wrote:

>Martin, if you cant undo the crankshaft nut you have a couple of choices, a
>torque multiplier or a slugging spanner ( wrench for the USA ) i.e, a
>spanner that can be struck by a hammer.

Indeed, I've found that a good "shock" to the dog beats the steady pressure
bar.  When I fitted a capstan winch, I put an appropriate six-point wrench
on it and whacked it with the 3 pound lump hammer.  First shot, it came
undone.  (The fact that I had hosed it with penetrating oil for a week
prior might have helped, tho')  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "LEPRINCE Didier" <leprince@outremer.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:50:20 -0400
Subject: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)

The cold measure temperature (W) is -17,8° Celsius = 0° Fahrenheit
The warm (normal) measure temperature is 98,9° Celsius = 210° Fahrenheit
For the swiwels, it depends the temperature they will reach.
If you want to take the best profit of your multigrade 80 W 140 oil, you
have to reach the 210° Fahrenheit temperature !. The best way to get that
is to put no oil  at all ...... -:)

More seriously I think a heavy monograde is better for that.

Ci après quelques sites interessants
. Bibliographie
Propulsion et moteur marin J.L. PALLAS E.T.A.I.
Huiles et Lubrifiants : comment choisir son huile
Loisirs nautiques H.S. : moteurs marins
http://www.yondar.com/yondar/course.htm
http://www.aeroad.com/carfix/2page3.htm
http://www/vtr.org/maintain/oil-synthetics.htm
http://www/vtr.org/maintain/oil-overview.htm
http://www.geocities.com../MotorCity/2195/engineoil_bible.htm
http://www.geocities.com../MotorCity/2195/snakeoil.htm
http://www.softcom.com.au/4WD/A.hints/Oil.htm
http://www.stretcher.com/stories/970609d.htm
http://www.stretcher.com/stories/961209c.htm
http://www.directcon.net/mmason/oil.htm

D LEPRINCE

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:06:28 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: I think I found my build order sheet...

In a message dated 6/24/98 10:44:34 AM, you wrote:

>>>Colour:    456  White-Alpine/Savarin     (what's Savarin?)
>Was a brand of canned coffee that I remember mom having around when I was a
wee
lad.

>What color is the interior?

The interior is cloth, LR calls it Moorland (as seen in BLRS ads in LROI)...
maybe Savarin was the guy who painted it since Jones was out sick...

--pat.

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From: Bas <9318860@law-fs3.leidenuniv.nl>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:22:11 +0200
Subject: Fwd: amp.meter shaking

This is a forwarded message
From: Jos de Vries <vriesde7@dutccis.ct.tudelft.nl

Hi all,

my current meter (Ampere) is shaking violently while the engine is 
running for a week now. It's stable on preheating my diesel engine
I have found no explanation in Hayes, so the next questions to the 
list:

- wat is going on, is the meter broken or some coil ?
- is it harmfull for the battery ? 
- what to do about it ?

regards,
Jos de Vries

109 D '71 SW SANTANA
88 '75 ex-MOD

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 13:28:02 -0700
Subject: BP's deal of the day - 6/24/98 -comercial content

This has commercial content. 

 If you do not want to read it. please delete now

I just checked out British Pacific's deal of the day.  They have 2 new 
Rover rear axle shafts plus the fixings for US $80.

Since these things do crystallize and can leave people in a world of hurt 
if they break in the field I thought I would pass this on.

I get nothing out of this.  I just thought it seemed inexpensive for US 
sourced new axles so I would pass it on in case someone was thinking of 
picking up a set as spares or to replace their old ones before they broke.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:08:07 +0200
Subject: Re: LRO

Does anyone know how to subscribe to LRO in Denmark? Is it worth the
read - how much series coverage is there? Or is it mainly promo articles
for the Coilers, Discos and Freeloaders?

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: "Richard Clarke"<Richard.Clarke@nre.vic.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:31:07 +1000
Subject: grease in front swivel housings

as soon as there is any sign of leakage through the front swivel seals I
have always replaced the grease with a 50-50 grease/90wt mixture

it doesn't leak out but stays sloppy enough to not just stick to the inside
of the outer edge when the axle spins (like pure grease does) and thus
keeps the uni or cv lubricated

CVs came in with the stage one (constant 4wd)

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:29:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Fwd: amp.meter shaking

I think the brushes in the generator might be going bad - this can make the
alternator work partly, or not work at all.

The reason it acts steady when the glow plugs are on is that they are
pulling electricity from the battery - this is an even strain, so the meter
moves smoothly. If the generator or its regulator is going bad the needle
may shake, or not move at all.

Have your friend have the generator tested at a garage - they can tell if
it is OK.

                         Alan

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:01:41 EDT
Subject: Re: Undo that dog

two of you wrote:
>>a slugging spanner ( wrench for the USA ) i.e, a
>spanner that can be struck by a hammer.
Indeed, I've found that a good "shock" to the dog beats the steady pressure
bar.  When I fitted a capstan winch, I put an appropriate six-point wrench
on it and whacked it with the 3 pound lump hammer. <<

Hence the expression in the UK (hi Bill) 'cracking off' a really tight nut.

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:01:57 EDT
Subject: Re: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)

In a message dated 24/06/98 18:56:32 BST, you write:

<< For the swiwels, it depends the temperature they will reach.
 If you want to take the best profit of your multigrade 80 W 140 oil, you
 have to reach the 210° Fahrenheit temperature !.  >>

Erm... I was sure that I was taught that automotive oil 'breaks down' or
ceases to be of any use at something really low like 100 degree C......
Have I thought wrong all these years?

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:11:49 -0700
Subject: RE: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)

Frank writes:
	<< For the swiwels, it depends the temperature they will reach.
	 If you want to take the best profit of your multigrade 80 W 140
oil, you
	 have to reach the 210° Fahrenheit temperature !.  >>

	Erm... I was sure that I was taught that automotive oil 'breaks
down' or
	ceases to be of any use at something really low like 100 degree
C......
	Have I thought wrong all these years?

	Best Cheers

	Frank

Well, 100 deg. C = 212 deg. F  so he's still safe...but not by much!

Paul in Victoria.

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:24:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Oil weight & thickness (viscosity)

>Erm... I was sure that I was taught that automotive oil 'breaks down' or
>ceases to be of any use at something really low like 100 degree C......
>Have I thought wrong all these years?

No, Frank, your not wrong, 
but we wont tell anyone!

:-)

LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ
Departamento Legal - JCCCSA
lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
lgutierr@hotmail.com

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From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:33:24 -0700
Subject: Looking For.........

Trying to get Ed Bear on the phone, to no avail. His phone # is 
disconnected ( 1-207-243-2943 ) Anyone got a new #?  How 'bout an e-mail 
address??
  
Thanks muchly!!

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:34:13 -0500
Subject: 109 IIA rear brake adjusters

Well, I found out why my brakes suck.  The rear brakes weren't adjusted
well.  Went to adjust them and it seem that they can't adjust.

The cammed adjuster looks OK but it lies right against the brake back
plate without any sort of spacer.  So when the adjuster turns it does
not make contact with the peg on the shoe.

Is there supposed to bew a spacer between the cammed adjuster?  How much
distance should there be between the adjuster cam and the backing plate?

cwolfe 

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From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:33:21 -0400
Subject: OVLR B-day - the story continues

More fun in the sun.

The weekend was far from over after the morning auction, where J. Berg's
synopsis left
off. Tom Tollefson and Team Daphne out of Toronto were keen to do the
heavy
off-roading so passed the word after the auction that departure was
eminent. Our ranks
quickly swelled and ten or so Land Rovers (and one honkin Unimog) set
off down the
road for the hydro line.

Upon arrival Ben Smith took the lead, crossed a shallow stream, and
slowly began
picking his way between and over the rocks as he climbed up the first
hill. No real
drama here and everyone easily followed. A hundred metres or so farther
on and
we came to a rather steep decent into a gully with a short steep climb
out the other
side. This was followed be a nice mucky boggy section. Tom went first in
his 101,
handling the gully with ease but became mired in the bog. He easily
extracted himself
then  continued on across a dry section and into another boggy bit. With
a full head
of steam, he drove right through this one and then climbed to higher
ground.

I followed in my 88 and when I reached the first bog, I stayed farther
right, up against
the trees, and easily made it through. I was so happy with my
accomplishment that I
totally forgot about the second bog and putt putted to a stop right in
the middle of it,
stuck fast. Tom winched me out and I continued on. Ben came through next
and shot
straight through. He was followed by Dave Bobeck. Unfortunately, Dave's
88 slipped
into Tom's ruts and that was it for him and the winch was called into
service once again.

As the rest followed, most getting through without help, Ben and Mark
Newman pushed
on finding the trail ahead. One by one we each followed, up and down a
couple more
hills till we reached the next bog. This one was going to be a lot
tougher to get across
and was the spot where the group had to give up two years ago.

The area was very muddy and the grass growing in the bog was about three
feet high.
When I got there, Ben was already mired in the mud and Mark was winching
him back
out. I was fairly sure we wouldn't be getting through here this year
either. Tom arrived,
had a quick look at Ben's tracks, jumped back in the 101, and gunned
into the  mess.
He got twice as far as Ben but hung up on a buried log.

He was going to winch himself forward but realized we would be here till
late in the
evening trying to get everyone through (there was still one more major
bog to cross
before reaching the road) and most of us still had long drives home, so
we decided to
admit defeat again this year and turn back. Ben positioned himself to
pull Tom out but
his winched packed up on him and Mark had to stand in.

Our convoy now reversed itself and retraced our tracks back. Everyone
was getting
through the sticky bits with out problem, including Quintin Aspin and
Andrew Finlayson
in their Series I's who made it look so easy. I followed Bill Rice in
his 109 through and
naturally got myself stuck. Doh! As Dave Lowe, in his Lightweight, was
pulling me back
out, I looked ahead up the hill and saw Bill's 109 flopped over on it's
side. It was the
ol' left rear tire goes up a bump as the right front drops into a hole
deal, but with the help
of ten or so hardy souls, the vehicle was righted again within seconds
and there appeared
to be no damage. It all happened so fast I don't think anyone even got
pictures.

While some continued to play on the rocks for a while, the rest of us
headed back to camp
to pack up. When we got back we found Christine Rose and her gang had a
fine lunch of
roast beast sandwiches waiting for us, a most welcome surprise.

It was a great weekend and we all had a great time. Thanks to all at
OVLR for all the
effort making this the most excellent Birthday Party. See ya all next
year.

Brett

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 21:57:43 -0700
Subject: Re: 109 IIA rear brake adjusters

>Well, I found out why my brakes suck.  The rear brakes weren't adjusted
>well.  Went to adjust them and it seem that they can't adjust.
'
>The cammed adjuster looks OK but it lies right against the brake back
>plate without any sort of spacer.  So when the adjuster turns it does
>not make contact with the peg on the shoe.
'

The snail sticks out a little ways from the back plate  It is at the end 
of a short post.  I do not have a dimension, but it is not against the 
backplate.

Any chance that they have been pushed down the post?

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Ari Myllyla <Ari.Myllyla@stone.fi>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:11:46 +0300
Subject: LockRight locker for LR Salisbury axle?

Does anyone know is LockRight locker available for Land-Rover 109"
Salisbury diff (4.7:1) .  And if it is where to get one from UK? Any good
URL's?

Ari Myllylä

e-mail:arim@stone.fi

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From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:31:32 +0100
Subject: Timing chain Refitting 

The Haynes manual makes this sound a real doddle, but it isn't. The fey on 
the side of the crankshaft is causing me problems. I am trying to fit a new 
sprocket but the fit is very  tight so I have tried heating the cog which 
allowed me to put the cog on the shaft but as soon as I had the cog being 
cooled by the shaft would not go any further. Using a piece of large radius 
pipe I have hammered it further down. But now the first key on the 
crankshaft is popping out. Any suggestions on a better method of reassemble

Martin Lough
Frank W Murphy Ltd. U.K.
Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext 245)
Fax: +44 1722 410088
email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk
Visit Our Website at http://www.fwmurphy.co.uk

martin@fwmurphy.co.uk

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From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:43 +0100
Subject: Land rover Shopping

I have purchased all my parts from http://lr.merseyworld.com/  they send 
everything overnight and they are dead cheap

Martin Lough
Frank W Murphy Ltd. U.K.
Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext 245)
Fax: +44 1722 410088
email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk
Visit Our Website at http://www.fwmurphy.co.uk

martin@fwmurphy.co.uk

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:38:54 -0400
Subject: Re: 109 IIA rear brake adjusters

If the pins aren't touching then you most likely have the shoes on the
wrong sides (front to back).

The shoes are handed - and oftentimes folk get them mixed up.

                              ajr

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