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From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:59:10 GMT
Subject: Looking for Martin Ba.........??

Sorry to bother the list with this. 

I'm looking for a Martin Ba (something) who replied to me yesterday
concerning my 88". I accidently deleted his message. Can you e-mail me
again, please?

Thanks, 
Michel Bertrand
						______
Rock Forest, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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From: Martin Lough <martin@fwmurphy.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:47:20 +0100
Subject: FW: Engine noises

Thank you Bill <wleacock@pipeline.com> for your response

I feel you are on to something here. Because even before I took the local 
dealers advice and dismantled the engine my gut feeling was that it was 
something to do with combustion, the reason being was the noise was 
accompanied by bluish smoke.
 I have, as part of a general look round, carried out there test suggested. 
It is detailed in the Haynes Manual. The book said that there should be a 
noticeable drop in RPM with each one you loosen, which there was. I did 
find that one of the unions to the distributor pump was loose at this time 
and loosing a fair amount of fuel, come to think of it that is about the 
time the noise started after I tightened the union. I never did the test 
when the knocking noise was present. Yes this seems fairly convincing that 
it is related as the knocking is not  wholly related to power, it some 
times came and went while not under power and sometimes it even disappeared 
as I accelerated I .
I have today received all the parts from http://lr.merseyworld.com/ for a 
fraction of the local LR dealers price.
I will rebuild this week end and carry out the test, assuming I get it 
started.
One more appeal if there is any I should be checking before it goes back 
together LET ME KNOW.
and Bill any more thoughts would be welcome

Cheers

Martin Lough
Frank W Murphy Ltd. U.K.
Tel: +44 1722 410055 (Ext 245)
Fax: +44 1722 410088
email: martin@fwmurphy.co.uk
WEB FWMURPHY.CO.UK

martin@fwmurphy.co.uk

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From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:07:19 -0400
Subject: Buggyeyed

I'd settle for just a few minutes alone among the bits and pieces!

>From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 98 14:28:39 EST
>Subject: Re[2]: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

>ahh...the truth comes out...
>he's just got "rover envy"
>:)
>daveb

>land rover to be. If I was hypnotized and asked to draw a LR, what would come
>out is probably a 3-door LWB IIa with full (patched) soft top, bonnet mounted
>spare, worn tires (7.50x16) and slightly rearward sagging springs... body
>obviously not in concours condition, probably green, faded galvanized bits and
>a dog in the passenger seat (a canine one)...

And the headlights safely tucked away in the center!

David Russell
David_R@mindspring.com
MRM Inc.
hdqt@mrminc.com
Kensington, MD USA
http://www.mrminc.com

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From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:07:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Billing '98

Yes, my patient and tolerant wife and I will be there around the 17th.

>From: "Micky Cormack" <Micky101@email.msn.com>
>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:54:24 +0100
>Subject: Billing '98
>Are any of you lot from the wrong side of the Atlantic going to Billing this
>year?
>Micky
>(101 in bits)

David Russell
David_R@mindspring.com
MRM Inc.
hdqt@mrminc.com
Kensington, MD USA
http://www.mrminc.com

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From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:57:38 -0400
Subject: Re: 2.5 v6 -Humour

At 19:22 98-06-18 +1200, Tom Dixon  wrote:

snip-
 I know nothing about Ford motors. Do these
>motors have a good or bad history? 
snip-

FORD: Fix Or Repair Daily, or then again, Found On the Road Dead...

-:) 

Salutations, 

Michel Bertrand
						______
Rock Forest, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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From: "Clark, Patrick D." <Clark_PD@pillsburylaw.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:19:43 -0700
Subject: re: FORD:

Since you went there first:

F**ked Over Re-build Dodge........

I know nothing about Ford motors. Do these
>motors have a good or bad history? 
snip-

 Fix Or Repair Daily, or then again, Found On the Road Dead...

-:) 

Salutations, 

Michel Bertrand

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:20:49 +0000
Subject: Re: 2.5 v6 -Humour

>FORD: Fix Or Repair Daily, or then again, Found On the Road Dead...

How about: "Speed kills.Buy a Ford and live forever."
Or: "Four wheels and a board,you've got a Ford."
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Micky Cormack" <Micky101@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:14:38 +0100
Subject: Re: Billing '98

Guess I should have made myself a bit clearer on the subject...

Thought it might be a nice idea if, in the spirit of friendship etc etc etc
members of the LRO actually got to meet each other person to person

Jist of enquiry was is anyone on the far side of the Atlantic (i.e. the good
ole U. S. of A, Canada and the like) making the trip over to Billing this
year?

If you are, I'll be in a white Defender in the corner of Swan's Field.
Probably.

Either that or rummaging through skips for 101 bits...

Cheers,

Micky
(101 in bits)

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From: Carl Petter Swensson <cepe@online.no>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:26:47 +0200
Subject: LR owner newbie trailing blue smoke in Norway

I just bought a '79 SIII diesel LR (4 doors). I has presumably pretty
low milage, but has been in store for a while (some years). So far
everything looks (and feels) good with the exception of the engine
giving off light grey/blue smoke and consuming some oil. I assume the
two are connected in soome way. More smoke when cold and/or light load
on the engine. Less smoke when warm/heavy load. 

What would be the primary suspect to the smoke/oil problem? Worn piston
rings, valve stem seals ("ventilpakninger" for my fellow Norwegians) or
any other oil leak in the engine?

Regards,

Carl
-- 
Carl P. Swensson	internet: cepe@online.no	
			telephone: +47-928 937 40
I speak for myself. I will tell you when I speak for someone else

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:54:57 EDT
Subject: Re: Rolled series vehicle

In a message dated 19/06/98 09:36:43 BST, you write:

<< So I now have a nasty dent in
 the rear bodywork - pushed UP from underneath - not a normal impact dent -
 any suggestions on straightening her out would be greatly awaited!!! (?)
  >>

Neil,
my suggestion, leave it there - think of the use as a conversation piece and
how strangers will try to figure out how it got like that......

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: Frankelson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:55:19 EDT
Subject: Re: Billing '98

In a message dated 19/06/98 17:48:46 BST, you write:

<<  I'll be in a white Defender in the corner of Swan's Field. >>

Come on Micky,
 narrow it down a bit, Would this white Defender have round black wheels on
it?
last year a friend brought his mother-in-law to Billing (?) and she told us
she had seen someone she knew and we were to look out for him 'in a Green Land
Rover' I suppose you did better, you did identify the model :-)>

I'll be leaning on the green 110 outside the LRO tent most of the time

Best Cheers

Frank
             +--+--+--+   	        
            I !__|  [_]|_\___   
            I ____|”_|"__|_ | /   B791 PKV - Bronze Green 110
            "(o)======(o)"

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:56:49 -0300
Subject: Re: LR owner newbie trailing blue smoke in Norway

Carl if you Rover has been in storage for several years the ring
probably are a little sticky and not sealing well however with luck they
will improve as you drive. So don't panic about a little smoke for
several hundred kilometers. It will improve quicker if driven quite hard
for a while.
    John and Muddy 

Carl Petter Swensson wrote:
> I just bought a '79 SIII diesel LR (4 doors). I has presumably pretty
> low milage, but has been in store for a while (some years). So far
> everything looks (and feels) good with the exception of the engine
> giving off light grey/blue smoke and consuming some oil. I assume the
> two are connected in soome way. More smoke when cold and/or light load
> on the engine. Less smoke when warm/heavy load.
> What would be the primary suspect to the smoke/oil problem? Worn piston
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>                         telephone: +47-928 937 40
> I speak for myself. I will tell you when I speak for someone else

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 08:57:05 +1000
Subject: engine noise

Art Bitterman wrote:
>Bill Leacock was talking a bout Diesel engine noises and
>mentioned "premature injection"
>Would Viagra help here?

Sorry, no it probably wouldn't Art.  If I remember thoes days from my youth,
I had a problem with premature injection but certainly didn't need Viagra!

My wife reckon I need  bromide.  I asked if that was silver bromide so we
could see what developed but she disagreed, also saying we didn't need any
hardener.

I asked about enlargements but she says she prefers the smaller formats.

Err, we were talking photography - weren't we.?

Ron

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:24:44 +1000
Subject: manuel

Mike Johnson wrote:
>Having 2200+ hrs in an EC-130H (thats an airplane) I always refer 
>to the manual as the "dash one".  i.e.  EC130H-1  or SIII-1

Jeez, I allus thought a Dash-1 was a cheap version of the Dash-8

Ron

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:38:15 +0200
Subject: Re: 2.5 v6 -Humour

or even -

Keep death off the road - drive on the pavement!

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:44:42 +0200
Subject: Re: Out of Office AutoReply: 2.5 v6 -Humour

Messagwe received

thanks!

Clark, Patrick D. wrote:
> I'll be attending a conference in Long Beach, CA Sunday, June 21 -
> Thursday, June 25.  I'm back in the office Friday, June 26.

-- 
Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:55:47 EDT
Subject: Need help w/110 problem...

Would anyone who has had the rusting on their 110 cured please e-mail
(directly so as not to waste others' time) me with any answers to the
following questions. LRNA says it has never done such a procedure, and doesn't
know what I am asking. Gee, no surprise there. (I am asking for the cappings
to be replaced)

What is your xxx/500 #?

Who is your dealer? 

Contact person there who handled your request?

What did they fix? (and do you know who actually did the work?)

Did they balk at all?

Can I call you on the phone to ask how you got it done?

Thanks,

--pat.
<spyders@aol.com>

ps: I know right off that some people are going to scoff, laugh, whatever,
etc., that this is a leafer list, that you wouldn't have paid over X for a car
with rusting bodycapppings, etc., but I know there are some 110 owners lurking
in our midst, and it is to them that I address these questions, they may e-
mail me directly. 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:01:59 -0400
Subject: beware Empire Staters

Tonight the Purple Peril took to the roads for the first time in over a
decade. Twenty months after my daughter and I started with a pile of scrap
we now have  ?     a bigger pile of scrap !! in the form of a 59 ser 2 88.
Watch out, it could be my daughter driving .....   ( I am glad she does not
read the list )
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:08:10 EDT
Subject: Re:  Out of Office AutoReply: aaaargh! *not again!*

In a message dated 6/19/98 9:57:47 PM, you wrote:

>I'll be attending a conference in Long Beach, CA Sunday, June 21 -
>Thursday, June 25.  I'm back in the office Friday, June 26.  

Aaarghhh... We are all getting these responses for every single item of mail
we send to the lro list. We're drowning. Beware, someone may torpedo your
subscription to the list <hint, hint, whoever can do that>

--pat.

ps: Adrian, I didn't know what you were talikng about, but now I do. 

(Remember <asanna@saco...>? Just kidding Tony, we'll let you live it down one
day...)

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From: PScales <pscales@blvl.igs.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:17:38
Subject: *New* 1966 Series II sighted

After work today, I pulled onto the highway behind a seemingly brand-new
1966 Series II SWB.  I flagged down the owner, and he parked next to my
1959 SWB.  John Stoneham has worked on his frame-off for years, finally got
it finished, and today it passed the provincial safety certification
(without a hitch!) so he and the missus were driving around.

Kinda makes a person feel that it *can* be done.  Almost a 100-point Landie!

P.S.: I told John about the OVLR party, but he is prudently staying within
a 20 km radius of his toolshed until he is sure the SWB isn't going to let
him down.

Peter
Trenton, Ontario

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:11:54 EDT
Subject: Re: Need help w/110 problem...

I just got mine back....8K worth of work including capping done....I asked for
a rust inspection and they called me and said will take 6 weeks and it
certainly did...You should just be able to go to any dealer.
Greg

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From: "Tom Dixon" <tomd@clear.net.nz>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:15:00 +1200
Subject: English address required

Hello List readers. 
I am after the postal or better still e-mail address of "Shire four by
four" all I have is a phone number, which is 01295 812080 this may help
those in England as to knowing what part of the country they are in. Thanks
as normal it is all truly appreciated.
Tom Dixon
ZL2UPG
Series 3
tomd@clear.net.nz
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