1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: "Mark Talbot" <rangerover@top.monad.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:04:01 -0400 Subject: off road August 23rd Hello all. I would like to offer all fellow LR owners the chance to come try the power lines in NH. Over the past few months I have gone down the entire length of the lines. Mostly driving. some walking !These trails are very exciting. approx. 10 miles of challenging trails that will test every LR owner. There are hill climbs, water crossings, rocks and boulders litter the trails. Because these trails are not easy and require more on your LR than stock tyres to complete the entire length. I'm going to break them into sections to get as many through as possible. In that vein, So what I'm planning on doing is this ........... On Saturday August 22nd, I will lead a group of LR who don't have winches or more aggressive tyres. These vehicles MUST have a recovery point. We will do some of the easier sections as well as some of the trail sin the woods. On Sunday August 23rd, I can take the hardened LRs through the entire length of the power lines. These vehicles should be well equipped to handle this terrain. Now, I can hear some of the more standard equipped owners asking why they could not come on the Sunday trip. Well let me know and we can get you to ride in one of these vehicles. If you wish to do both trips, then camping is available either in my field or down at the local campsite about 1/2 mile away. So let me know... ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Peter Monk" <monk@calypso.math.udel.edu>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 11:05:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Gaiters
A recent LROI commented that the manual says to have the stitching facing
forwards, but suggested ignoring this and advised having the seam at the
back. I recently purchased a 30yr old IIa with gaiters. When I
removed the gaiters they had a lot of sand in them! But it was oily
sand and didn't seem to have harmed the swivel balls. So I vote
for gaiters - but suggest cleaning them out now and again.
Peter
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]From: trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:49:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Miami Beach - Blue Diamond Apt. Beachfront . Info From: Tom Rowe@CDR on 06-13-98 10:49 AM cc: Subject: Re: Miami Beach - Blue Diamond Apt. Beachfront . Info For those who may be unaware, fax spamming is against the law in the US. A polite request to Postmaster@the.domain.name with the pertinant info is always the best method to start with. If that doesn't stop it, Bill can always block them. Tom Rowe Network Systems Administrator WI Center for Dairy Research Madison, WI 608-265-6194 Fax: 608-262-1578 trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:37:46 -0500 Subject: re: Perkins Diesels From: Tom Rowe@CDR on 06-13-98 10:37 AM cc: Subject: re: Perkins Diesels snip >for 90's and Range Rovers due to it's relatively high revs. a 4. 203, a >tractor / industrial engine, max revs 2600, needs gearing up to use the snip Perkins also had a vehicular 4203 which had higher revs, but still not high, around 3000 I think (I don't have manual handy). I have one of them in my basement. > Perkins make excellent diesel engines, but they require some modifications >to fit. The high torque versions wreck trannies and axles if not driven >carefully. >Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. Some of the conversion outfits actually marketed a trany kit to fit the engines to SIII, it basicly converted the SIII trany to the SII type that had all the gears seperate from the shafts. Tom Rowe Network Systems Administrator WI Center for Dairy Research Madison, WI 608-265-6194 Fax: 608-262-1578 trowe@cdr.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:03:08 +0100 Subject: RE: Perkins Diesels ^^Perkins also had a vehicular 4203 which had higher revs, but still not ^^high, around 3000 I think (I don't have manual handy). I have one of them ^^in my basement. 2800 revs ^^> Perkins make excellent diesel engines, but they require some ^^modifications ^^>to fit. The high torque versions wreck trannies and axles if not driven ^^>carefully. ^^>Bill Leacock ( Limey in exile ) NY USA. ^^Some of the conversion outfits actually marketed a trany kit to fit the ^^engines to SIII, it basicly converted the SIII trany to the SII type that ^^had all the gears seperate from the shafts. To most peoples amazement I had a 4.236 (3.9 ltr) in my SIII 88" for several years. It did 60K+ miles, trialled, towed and I did not break anything! SIIA gearbox + overdrive (on 750s about 60mph flat out....), Salisbury rear, 11" fronts + dual servo, diesel front springs swapped over from left to right so it sat level, LWB 8+2 rears. It had a full internal roll cage and handled well, about a 50/50 front/rear weight split although the engine is a bit heavy! Still run the engine in my 110 now. john ______________________ John McMaster john@chiaroscuro.co.uk green/purple 110/Massey Ferguson ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:17:51 EDT Subject: Gearbox rebuild question Hi all, I'm rebuilding a IIa gearbox. With the overhauled mainshaft in place and the overhauled layshaft in place, I can only get the shafts to rotate when 1st gear and reverse idler gears are disengaged. (selector shafts not in place yet). Is this normal or do I have a problem with the reassembly of on of the shafts? I've had the bellhousing on and off several times now and I'm getting a little tired of this. Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:06:04 EDT Subject: Looking for Dormobiles..... who is going to Billings? Is there a definitive number of Land Rover Dormobiles produced by Martin Walter ? John Hess gave me a couple of photos from his collection. One is of Barbara Toy receiving her two-door (!) Dormie in front of Martin Walter's. The other is a publicity shot of six identical Dormobiles on an expedition from London- Bombay-Colombo. John said that they were also consecutive tags starting with 652-RKL. Keep your eyes on the lookout for a Dormobile being shipped from Maine to PHX. Last I heard, it was in Maryland loading up more vehicles with stops planned in Texas. This one will be on the rear upper position of the carrier. If you see it, send me a note. One more request: if you come across a Dormobile, make a note the serial numbers and send it to me. If I read John Hess' information correctly, there should be the normal LR serial number AND a Martin Walter serial number rivetted inside the vehicle on the dashbaord. John says that most of the Martin Walter numbers end in 626. If someone who attends Billings wants to record the Dormies there, I'd be happy to exchange a Arizona LR Rally dash plaque and some other LR item (t- shirt?) for the numbers and your assistance. E-mail me off-line and we'll set it up. Thanks! Gerry Elam PHX AZ ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Francois ADAMS <francois.adams@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:55:47 +0200 Subject: Re: Gaiters Hello I don't understand exactly what gaiters are. Is it a sort of "bag" to put on the balls of the front hub to protect them ? If yes, is it efficient, in what material are they built, and is it a genuine land rover part ?? Thanks On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 11:05:38 -0400 "Peter Monk" <monk@calypso.math.udel.edu> wrote: Peter> Peter> A recent LROI commented that the manual says to have the stitching facing Peter> forwards, but suggested ignoring this and advised having the seam at the Peter> back. I recently purchased a 30yr old IIa with gaiters. When I Peter> removed the gaiters they had a lot of sand in them! But it was oily Peter> sand and didn't seem to have harmed the swivel balls. So I vote Peter> for gaiters - but suggest cleaning them out now and again. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Francois ADAMS <francois.adams@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:57:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Looking for Dormobiles..... who is going to Billings? What is a dormobile ? Any picture of it on the web ? (I understood something like a camping car, am I totally stupid :-) ??? ) On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:06:04 EDT GElam30092@aol.com wrote: GElam30092> GElam30092> Is there a definitive number of Land Rover Dormobiles produced by Martin GElam30092> Walter ? ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Francois ADAMS <francois.adams@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:59:45 +0200 Subject: Language & translation (no real LR content) By the way, altavista is a very bad translator, or you do not speak english, or i do not understand altavista's french :-) http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? Bye ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for Dormobiles..... who is going to Billings? http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/Dormobiles.htm I don't think you're stupid. C Francois ADAMS wrote: > What is a dormobile ? Any picture of it on the web ? (I understood > something like a camping car, am I totally stupid :-) ??? ) > On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:06:04 EDT > GElam30092@aol.com wrote: > GElam30092> > GElam30092> Is there a definitive number of Land Rover Dormobiles produced by Martin [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)] > GElam30092> Is there a definitive number of Land Rover Dormobiles produced by Martin > GElam30092> Walter ? ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Francois ADAMS <francois.adams@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:07:58 +0200 Subject: Re: Looking for Dormobiles..... who is going to Billings? On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:03:19 -0700 "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> wrote: Christopher> Christopher> http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html Christopher> http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/Dormobiles.htm Christopher> Christopher> I don't think you're stupid. Thank you for the adresses (and diagnostic :-) ) Christopher> Christopher> C Christopher> ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:09:29 EDT Subject: Re: Gaiters In a message dated 6/13/98 4:59:05 PM, you wrote: >I don't understand exactly what gaiters are. >Is it a sort of "bag" to put on the balls of the front hub to protect them ? More of a "wrap" than a bag, but yes, gaiters cover the swivel balls. >If yes, is it efficient, Depends who you talk to; some like them, some think they're useless, and others think they are a bad thing... >in what material are they built, Sheepskin, they say, but could be leather... Anyone? >and is it a genuine land >rover part ? Could be. LR makes them as do others. I've even seen *rubber* ones that are put on when the swivels are off... --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:22:47 EDT Subject: Re: Looking for Dormobiles..... In a message dated 6/13/98 5:00:11 PM, you wrote: >What is a dormobile ? Any picture of it on the web ? (I understood >something like a camping car, am I totally stupid :-) ??? ) >. Dormobiles are just any car or truck you sleep in while travelling, usually applied to LWB LRs that have had the seats taken out and a cot in the back... some have a cabinet or two, maybe a hanging locker, ARB locker or foot locker, (depending on the year)... ;-) (ok, dormie owners, time to crack a smile, here... turn down the flamethrowers) >. Don't confuse it with the Door-Mobile, which is a Land-Rover-inspired Calder sculpture, slowly rotating in suspension in a shed somewhere near Solihull... >. Humor aside, actually the real Dormobile is a specific camper-conversion performed on LWB Series Land-Rovers by a company in the UK. Kinda like the LR version of VW's Westfalia bus... There are bound to be people on the list with pics on their sites. >. --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:23:37 EDT Subject: Re: Impending journey Hi all, a friend of mine will be working in Martinsville, Virginia, in September for around six weeks. Anybody out there want to make contact with a Brit for a bit of four-wheeling - or just talk about fourwheelers? er.... he's a T*y*t* FJ4* owner (although he's got nothing (much) against Land Rovers, we go out together in my 110) so anyone know the local Toyota chapter in that area as well? TIA best cheers Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:41:24 EDT Subject: Re: Impending journey In a message dated 6/13/98 5:27:02 PM, you wrote: >a friend of mine will be working in Martinsville, Virginia, in September for >around six weeks. In the UK septembers seem to have a few more weeks than the US's four... oh well, maybe that's why europe gets longer summer holidays. I will be in the Virginia area end of Sept/early Oct, on my way down from Massachusetts, to Florida... keep us posted on his whereabouts, and something will happen in that area... tons of LROs around there, all good people, too. (at least the ones I've met...) --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:46:51 EDT Subject: Mainshaft question Hi all, Let's try this question: Should both the 2nd and 3rd gears on the mainshaft rotate independantly from the shaft? I believe the answer is yes. If so, then I have my answer: The locating pin for 2nd gear bush may be too far out and fouling the second gear. Possible? Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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From: "C R. Wolfe" <cwolfe@d.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:56:44 -0500 Subject: No first or reverse! Just got an 1967 109 Sw that has been sitting in my barn for years running. I bought it many years ago, towed it to barn and has sat there ever since. I vaguely remember when I bought it that it did not have first gear., Now way to test as it was not running. Well she runs now. Only about 57 on the motor and it purrs like a kitten and has plenty of power (relatively of course) She indeed has no first or reverse. When in first or reverse, you hear the tranny spinning and clanging. So what is the most likely problem? What type of repair work is most likely to need to be done. Thanks. Cwolfe ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "C R. Wolfe" <cwolfe@d.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 19:01:54 -0500 Subject: Attaching topper (dog) to a 109 PU I raise bird dogs and I am thinking of converting my 109 PU to my dog truck. In order to do that I will need to make or have made a dog topper. Most top toppers are made of combination aluminum and stainless and will wiegh about 400 lbs. My concern is attaching it to the PU bed. With my GMC, the topper bolted through the steel of the bed walls. I doubt that aluminum and the galvinized railing attached by rivets would be strong enough to take the stress of the topper. Any suggestions about a way to attach a 400 lb dog topper to the sidewalls of a 109 PU? Thanks Cwolfe ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:12:52 EDT Subject: Re: No first or reverse! In a message dated 6/13/98 8:00:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cwolfe@d.umn.edu writes: She indeed has no first or reverse. When in first or reverse, you hear the tranny spinning and clanging. So what is the most likely problem? What type of repair work is most likely to need to be done. >> Don't know if it is most likely but it sounds like a problem with 1st gear on the mainshaft (used in both 1st and reverse). I'd take off the top cover and selector forks and have a look. Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Keith Elliott <landy@ican.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:52:47 -0400
Subject: Waves from J^%PS.
Hi Everyone...
Just out of curiosity, how many of you fellow LROs get waves from HEEP
owners? The past couple of weeks I have been driving the 88 sans top and almost
every CJ,YJ,TJ owner goes out of his way to wave. I always wave back with a big
grin on my
face because I am in the best 4x4xFar ;)
See you all at the B'Day party (Look for the screaming yellow 88 and you have
found me) ;)
Keith
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]From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 03:02:45 EDT Subject: Re: No first or reverse! My experience with this problem, is that the front layshaft bearing took a dump. You probably still have 2nd through 4th working fine. You'll have to take the trans apart, and inspect/repair as necessary. Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980614 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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