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1 "drew squires" [drewteri14Re: G10 Winch! -- AMAZING!!!
2 SPYDERS@aol.com 25Re: G10 Winch! -- AMAZING!!!
3 "Marc-Andre Leger" [ma@w34SIIa Lightweight Utility truck for Sale
4 Ian Stuart [kiz@holyrood31Re: fusebox and wiring harness
5 eheite@dmv.com (Ned heit21door tops
6 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l22RE: That little yellow lever...(no LR content)
7 SPYDERS@aol.com 14RE: That little "yellow" bast**d in CR...(no LR content)
8 Adrian Redmond [channel636Re: Relevant subjects
9 Jarvis64@aol.com 16Re: Going to the Ottawa Birthday Party
10 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 3035 AMP FUSES
11 Paul Wakefield - Serco [15Re: G10 Winch!
12 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml13RE: 35 AMP FUSES - substitutions
13 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us13Front Axle u-joint...
14 Dan & Sally Cantwell [dc21Re: Front Axle u-joint...
15 Tony Treace [atreace@HAS33RE: Looking for part of a IIA rear crossmember
16 RICK_SNYDER@HP-Andover-o25Re: Fuel Gauge
17 jory bell [jory@mit.edu>22Re: G10 Winch! -- AMAZING!!!
18 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l23RE: That little "yellow" bast**d in CR...(no LR content)
19 Vel Natarajan [nataraja@16rubber seals for lights?
20 debrown@srp.gov 37Towing with a 109
21 "William S. Kowalski" [715Re: Going to the Ottawa Birthday Party
22 "drew squires" [drewteri13Re: That little yellow lever...(no LR content) (Pervert)
23 "drew squires" [drewteri19Re: Relevant subjects
24 nickf@infocom.com (Nick 39Perkins diesel option on 1965 109 PU
25 "drew squires" [drewteri15Re: Towing with a 109
26 "William L. Leacock" [wl16Ticking
27 rovah@agate.net 22Any sites with Judge Dredd photos?
28 gruno@att.net.hk (Keith 29Re: Whitworth Wrenches
29 "Keith Cutler Family" [c43re: Air tools.
30 CIrvin1258@aol.com 28Re: Towing with a 109
31 "John McMaster" [john@ch45RE: Perkins diesel option on 1965 109 PU
32 West [GebietWest@ATELCO.3788 to sell / Billing 98


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From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:02:32 -0400
Subject: Re: G10 Winch!  -- AMAZING!!!

This isn't spam???  Must have taken an internet sales course!  If it's for
real, how bought more info on the unit.  Thanks!

Have a good one!

Drew Squires
drewteri@concentric.net
66 109 (Still getting Dressed)

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:25:43 EDT
Subject: Re:  G10 Winch!  -- AMAZING!!!

In a message dated 6/10/98 10:16:13 PM, you wrote:

>David Bowyer has basically taken an X9 winch, and made it more efficient -
>using roller barrings instead of the original nylon (or whatever they are -
>plastic substance anyway) ones - etc.   He has also added grease nipples,
>and the gearing has been modified to enable the parts to be reached by the
>grease.  Also the unit is more water tight.  

I've always wondered why winch makers haven't done that yet. I know it
probably has to do with cost and manufacturing ease, but still, there's always
room at the top for the best, isn't there? One would have thought that grease
nipples would be standard on winches that get dunked under water, tapered
bearings, etc.

Technology should only progress, and hopefully in the near future we will se
some real innovations in winches. If you look at what is offered today, they
all seem to be variations on a common theme.

--pat.

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From: "Marc-Andre Leger" <ma@wsrv12.wefa.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:32:36 -0500
Subject: SIIa Lightweight Utility truck for Sale

I just got a D90 and am considering selling my SIIa
(http://207.103.166.253/landrover/landrover.html ). Can anyone suggest any
good sites to post it on ! I know of LRX and will set that up this weekend
but I'm certain there must be other or better ways to go.

In case there is anyone here interested it's a Military RHD with roll bars
like a Jeep YJ (all original). It was fully professionally restored and just
professionally painted in Desert colors (My brothers's brother-in-law sells
paint to the Army so I got the real paint !).

Runs like new. Everything original and working...

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From: Ian Stuart <kiz@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:43:28 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: fusebox and wiring harness

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Christopher H. Dow wrote:
> Ned Heite wrote:
> > The original IIA Lucas fuse box is an atrocity. Two 35-amp fuses "protect"
> > all the circuits, with a bunch of white input wires and green output wires,

 	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)]

> > light fuses, but this is Lucasland. You can burn a lot of wiring before you
> > blow a 35-amp fuse.

> If I was doing it again, I'd do what TeriAnn did:  design a new harness.  That
> way you can fuse the hell out of it with new fuses that can be had anywhere.  
One of these days, I'll actually make up the wiring diagrams fro the
rewire that I did on my 109: new wire; 20+ spade fuses; relays & low
current wiring behind the dashboard...

When I get some diagrams, I'll put them on the web..

     ----** Ian Stuart

Land Rover : A British car that was meant to survive the charge of an
  adult bull rhino and be field-stripped in the jungle with essentially
  a screw-driver and a crescent wrench.

               WWW: http://www.tardis.vet.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/

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From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned heite)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:46:56 -0500
Subject: door tops

If the long bolts on its bottom rust loose, you can give your door top new
life with concrete. Baby's driver-side door top rusted on the bottom, and
the bolts came loose. I secured the new ones with an expanding concrete
material that is used to anchor bolts in concrete. I can testify that
concrete-filled door tops are great! It's been three or four years and
nothing has come loose.

    _____
___(_____)                         Any knowledge is a
|"Baby"  \                         subset of archaeology.
|1969 Land\_===__
|IIA__Rover   ___|o
|_/ . \______/ . ||
___\_/________\_/____________________________________________
Ned Heite, Camden, DE  http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:12:21 -0500
Subject: RE: That little yellow lever...(no LR content)

Yesterday when I got home, my wife told me a horror story with a happy ending.
While the kids where on the playground in front of the house (5 and 7 yrs) some 
14 years old boy (complete stranger) came in and convinced the youngest to go 
with him for a walk.
They dissapeared. Nobody saw them leave, not the policemen from the corner, not 
the guy from the store in front, not the neihgboors. My wife called 911, and 
went to look for him on herself. About a mile away she saw my kid of the hand 
of this boy 
(guy?). Ran into him, smaked him, told him what he was going to die of, 
reminded him of his family, and some other stuff she is not willing to tell 
even me. The piece of sh** only said that he was taking him to Hugo's house (?).
So she got my kid and the bast**d ran away. Lukily no harm done.
If I had been there probably I would have killed him.
Well, enough sad stories.  :-)

At 10:09 PM 6/10/98 +0100, you wrote:

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:29:05 EDT
Subject: RE: That little "yellow" bast**d in CR...(no LR content)

That 14yr old cowardly kid doesn't (yet) know what happens to his type in
prison... sometimes justice isn't served until it *is*.

What a world this is becoming, when what is precious and valuable to ones'self
is not respected by others... The space shuttle should offer one way tickets
to space for the bad apples, if they survive the re-entry burn, they can stay.

--pat.

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:18:41 +0200
Subject: Re: Relevant subjects

I know we're a crowd of anarchists - appeals for rules and ettiquette
usually result in a week-long satirical flame-war - but could I appeal
to our commonsense in asking us all (myself included) to be a tad more
disciplined in our use of the subject line.

I have just been away for two weeks, during which time I did not
unsubsc. - far from it, I enjoy reading the updates when I return. This
time there were over 1600 postings in my box.

Our subject useage has slipped from bad to worse - threads like
"Insurance" and "Little Yellow Knob" seem to contain anything but the
topic stated. It takes hours to read all this, and the idea of the
subject is to be able to sort all the threads which you don't wish to
follow - so that you have time to read the threads which you find
interesting.

So <magicwordenable> Please!

Adrian Redmond

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:37:56 EDT
Subject: Re:  Going to the Ottawa Birthday Party

Hey Big Bill,
I have no idea where Selkirk is, but I live about 70 miles north of Syracuse
(though the movers are coming TODAY to take me away from this wasteland!) and
will be headed up to the party.  HOWEVER, I'm probably going to leave early
Wednesday afternoon, or, at the latest, Thursday a.m. and crash (figuratively
speaking, of course) w/ some friends in Ottawa, and then leave Ottawa sometime
Friday and head to the party.  But let me know if anything changes or if you
want to meet up Friday in Ottawa and head out there.

Bill Rice

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:39:13 EDT
Subject: 35 AMP FUSES

The Lucas 17/35 amp fuse is supposed to be rated for 17 amp continuous
service. Do not use U.S. 20 amp standard fuses. If you use an ASA 35 amp rated
US fuse as found at the hardware store you will definately melt something if
you have a short in the system. Case in point: I was trying to trouble shoot a
gauge problem which I thought was due to a bad voltage stabilizer in a 69 MGB
I have recently acquired. I didnt bother to check the fuse box (Lucas, 2 fuse
type), which as it turns out had ASA 20 amp fuses instead of the proper Lucas
fuses. As it turns out the temp gauge had a short in the case (note:
Smith/Jaeger gauges have a ground for the intrument light only - the gauge
reading comes from the sending unit acting as a variable resistance ground)
that was causing fuses to blow as soon as the key was turned on. The
additional current was enough to ruin a new voltage stabilizer, as it took
longer for the higher rated fuse to blow. During the course of my
"investigation", but before I found the fault, I replaced the 20 amp with a
Lucas 17/35 amp fuse. It blew immediately but the second new voltage
stabilizer was not also ruined. This drove home that point that the proper
fuse is a must. I also was little more careful after that in looking for the
short! Point being that the stock fuses should be protecting the system
adequately, while incorrect fuses can and do lead to problems.
The stock wiring harness, at least the later plastic coated wiring harness,
IMHO, is plenty good enough for the stock lights, instruments, etc, provided
it hasnt been hacked about by a PO, has good ground connections, and the fuse
box has clean terminals. Its no worse than any other 30+ year old system.
Cheers, Andy Blackley

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From: Paul Wakefield - Serco <Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:44:25 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: G10 Winch! 

>> David kindly invited me over for a beer, and to play with his new winch -
>> The G10.  This thing is absolutely incredible!   An X9 is brilliant, but for
>> sheer performance the G10 knocks the spots off it.

> Giles, You even use the writing style and subject layout of a real spammer

Ohhhh Shi .....

Light the blue touchpaper and retire to a safe distance  ...... ?

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:51:07 -0700
Subject: RE: 35 AMP FUSES - substitutions

So, as a safe hack in an emergency, when Lucas fuses are not available,
would you recommend using U.S. 15 amp fuses?

Is anything in the system likely to draw more then 15 amps?

Paul Quin
Victoria, BC

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:04:27 -0400
Subject: Front Axle u-joint...

Doh! can't find the Spicer part number for the axle joint...anyone?

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:33:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Front Axle u-joint...

Hey Bill,
  How do these sound?
2 15/16 cap to cap are PN 5-4x
3 7/32 cap to cap are 5-153x
  hope this helps.
     Dan     '61 SII 88 HT.

Adams, Bill wrote:

> Doh! can't find the Spicer part number for the axle joint...anyone?
> Bill Adams
> 3D Artist/Animator
> '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
> '81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
> "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Tony Treace <atreace@HASimons.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:13:39 -0700
Subject: RE: Looking for part of a IIA rear crossmember

      Hello Alan,

> Sure do - got a whole one you're welcome to.

      Thanks for the offer.

> Problem is - where are you?

	Atlanta

> More to the point, might it not be easier to cut the offending
> exterior
> bit, straighten the rest and then replace the front bit with a bit of
> steel
> plate?
> Weld it right and a bit of grinding will have it looking untouched.

      Maybe. Last night I figured a new way to straighten the old one
using the hi-lift jack.
      If it doesn't work out, I'll get back with you.

	Thanks again for the generous offer,

    Tony

> More to the point, might it not be easier to cut the offending
> exterior

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From: RICK_SNYDER@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:22:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge

I think we all have gotten used to the fact that when the gauge says you 
are at one half, you are really at one quarter and that you should start 
looking for more fuel fast!  

When I had to take aprart the sender on my '71 IIA, I saw that there is a 
swing-arm that drives a wiper across the windings of a wire-wound resistor. 
As someone has already mentioned, because the swing-arm itslef is lifted by 
a float and piovots about a point, there is not a linear relationship 
between the level of fuel in the tank and the movement of the wiper across 
the wire-wound resistor.  It occured to me that a simple solution would 
have been to wind the resistor with a variable pitch that would compensate 
for this non-linear effect! 

I suppose all this doesn't really matter much since 10 gallons of fuel goes 
pretty damn quick anyway.  Funny though, I also have a '91 Range Rover and 
it has the same problem!  

Cheers,
Rick Snyder

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From: jory bell <jory@mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:16:29 -0700
Subject: Re: G10 Winch!  -- AMAZING!!!

i had to look back at the archives and see if he had ever posted before
since it certainly seems spamlike. i am still not convinced it is not spam.
ick.

::jory

>At 02:30 11-6-98 +0100, you wrote:
>>Hi!
>>David kindly invited me over for a beer, and to play with his new winch -
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
>>The G10.  This thing is absolutely incredible!   An X9 is brilliant, but for
>>sheer performance the G10 knocks the spots off it.
>-- snip --
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
>You even use the writing style and subject layout of a real spammer.
>Jan.

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:08:46 -0500
Subject: RE: That little "yellow" bast**d in CR...(no LR content)

If I catch him he will certainly learn a lesson. At least that I can assure.

At 10:29 AM 6/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
>That 14yr old cowardly kid doesn't (yet) know what happens to his type in
>prison... sometimes justice isn't served until it *is*.
>What a world this is becoming, when what is precious and valuable to ones'self
>is not respected by others... The space shuttle should offer one way tickets
>to space for the bad apples, if they survive the re-entry burn, they can stay.
>--pat.

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)]
>to space for the bad apples, if they survive the re-entry burn, they can stay.
>--pat.
LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ
Departamento Legal - JCCCSA
lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
lgutierr@hotmail.com

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From: Vel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:43:57 -0500
Subject: rubber seals for lights?

Does anyone know where you can buy new rubber seals for the
brake/turn-signal lights without buying the whole assembly?

Mine need refreshening since they're letting moisture in and are dried
and cracking...

Vel
Vel Natarajan            Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
                         1501 W. Shure Dr. Arlington Hts, IL 60004 USA
Phone: +1-847-632-2328   Pager: 847-576-0295  PIN: 17684

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 11 Jun 98 14:59:49 MST
Subject: Towing with a 109

From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
I towed my '87 Range Rover with my '70 109 *up* the mountains from Phoenix
to Flagstaff Arizona one time. It was not a fast trip, but it made it. Since
my speedometer didn't work in the 109, I can't tell you the slowest speed
that I achieved, but I would guess it to be somewhere around 5-10 mph. I
think it took almost 5 hours for the 160 mile trip, but I tried not to floor
the 109's tired little 2.25l. Fuel consumption was also up considerably! I
didn't even use the low range. Braking going down hill was okay, since I
didn't let it go too fast, and I actually went slower on the down hills than
on the flats.

I would say; for short distances, don't worry about it. For longer
distances... You'll have to decide.

Good luck, Dave Brown

P.S. The Range Rover got towed by my Pontiac half the way from Flagstaff to
my home (Gilbert Arizona) just recently, when the automatic transmission
went out - on the way home, during it's maiden voyage after having the
engine replaced. Don't ask me about cost of ownership!!! ;-)

  Potential buyer: "Kind-of high milage, isn't it?"
  Me: "Well, not when you consider that it was towed a lot!" ;-)

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From: "William S. Kowalski" <70252.1204@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:59:38 -0400
Subject: Re:  Going to the Ottawa Birthday Party

Hi Bill:
Selkirk Shores State Park is on the map; West of Pulaski, on Lake Ontario,
has to within minutes of you . We will be there Thursday night , camping
and adding oil. We will see you there!!!!.

Bill Kowalski
'67 LR 109" IIA SW
'63 Austin-Healey BJ7
'53 RR Bentley "R"  (For Sale)

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From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:12:33 -0400
Subject: Re: That little yellow lever...(no LR content) (Pervert)

Shoulda had him "fall on a bar of soap" & then take him to the Police &
press charges so he can't do it again.  Maybe they'd find out who "Hugo" is.
If he is.

Drew Squires
drewteri@concentric.net
66 109 (Still Getting Dressed)

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From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:25:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Relevant subjects

Sorry Adrian:
    I'll try to refrain.  You're 100 percent right & I should know, cause I
weed things out with the subject line as well.  Unfortunatly,  I just
commited that "sin" in responding to "Little Yellow Lever."  It was the
message immediatly preceding yours.  (I did put the word Pervert into the
subject line though.)

Relevance, Relevance.  Where for art thou Relevance?

Yours:
Drew Squires
drewteri@concentric.net
66 109 (Still Getting Dressed)

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From: nickf@infocom.com (Nick Fankhauser)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:45:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Perkins diesel option on 1965 109 PU

Hello all-

I've got a question for the historians out there. I'm exchanging e-mail with
a guy in Dallas who has a '65 109" pickup with a perkins diesel in it. I'm
really interested in buying the truck from him if it turns out that this is
a good and serviceable engine. I've asked for details on the engine, but he
doesn't seem to have info like the model, displacement, etc... Here is a
clip from the message he sent me:

"Perkins diesel are used in many boats,industrial equipment,and rover
used the Perkins as a option in the U.S. ,the parts are still at rover
dealers, the person who bought this new ordered 8 of them just like this for
his ranch,some of the others have 250k miles on them"

So... I looked in the archives and couldn't find any definite references to
a Perkins diesel, although much discussion about how similar the rover
diesel is to the Perkins... He seems to be in possesion of either the full
story or even the original paperwork on this, so I don't think he's just
guessing wrong on the make of the engine. 

I guess I'm hoping that the Perkins is a little peppier than the Rover
diesel... that sort of information would sway me toward buying it... Any
thoughts out there??

Many Thanks!

-NickF

'61 88 IIa
'67 88 IIa

Nick Fankhauser      | http://www.co.wayne.in.us/wayneco
nickf@co.wayne.in.us | http://www.infocom.com/~nickf

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From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:51:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Towing with a 109

Hmmm.  70 109 towing an 87 Range Rover!!!  Kinda says something?
Anyway,  How much does an 87 Range Rover weigh?  Also, was it loaded, or
empty?

Thanks:

Drew Squires
drewteri@concentric.net
66 109 (Still Getting Dressed)

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:55:29 -0400
Subject: Ticking

Brian, you mention that you have just refitted the head. Have you rechecked
the tappets ?  It is not unusual to have one of the push rods seat on the
edge of the tappett block  when installing, then after the engine is run it
will seat properly, thus creating excessive tappett clearance.  Camshafts
are usually very good on the series vehicles, unlike the V8's due to them
being steel and having roller followers so camshaft problems are unlikely. I
assume thta it is a mechanical ticking because a poor exhaust joint could
also be a problem.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: rovah@agate.net
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:21:48 -0800
Subject: Any sites with Judge Dredd photos?

If anyone knows of a website(s) with photos of the Judge Dredd trucks, I'd
appreciate the URL! :-)

Thanks in advance!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.agate.net/~rovah/>
X0 of the V(irtual)MFA 323rd Cougars/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game
<http://www.tstonramp.com/~kahuna/index.html>

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, 1970 Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1998 SE Discovery "Chukka," 1987 Range Rover-"Smedley," 1966
Series IIA 88" "SWAMBO,"  1963 Unimog 404.1-S "The Caterpiller,"  1968
Porsche 911L, Series 109" Project

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From: gruno@att.net.hk (Keith Addison)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:18:43 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: Re: Whitworth Wrenches

Hi Frank

>not to boast, but Frost is about 20 mins down the road from me - a veritable
>Aladins Cave, can't go in and out in less than an hour!!
>best cheers
>Frank

Okay, I'm envious! Your 20 minutes is my 10,000 miles or so - there's
nothing like Frost here, it's a wilderness from that point of view (despite
the Whitworth wrenches I got from China!). Also nothing like the clubs and
events you guys have, and the hordes of enthusiastic Land Rover owners
within easy reach. (Hell, am I making you cry yet??) You've no idea how
much I value the input from the list. Did you know they don't even sell
Defenders in Hong Kong? (Except to the government.) I can get some parts
here though, sometimes, but it's all very iffy. Ah well, maybe it's good
for me.

All best

Keith Addison
Lantau Island
Hong Kong
1973 Series III Lightweight

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From: "Keith Cutler Family" <cutler_family@ibm.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:49:06 -0600
Subject: re: Air tools.

I agree that a 5 hp compressor with a 20 to 30 gallon tank is a good choice
for home use.  A unit with a 220V motor will recover faster than one with
110V; also, the load on the motor at startup is not as great with a 220V
system.  As for the compressor, I recommend an oil (splash) lubricated one
instead of the oil-less models.  Although you occasionally need to add oil
to a splash lubricated compressor, the longevity is much, much better.
Generally, splash lubricated compressors are a little more money.  Try and
get a unit with a cast iron cylinder, or at least an aluminum cylinder with
an iron liner.  The iron just makes it last longer than an all aluminum one.

Another thing to consider is the diameter of the hose, as well as the
length.  You'll lose around 5 psi for every 25 feet of hose, so you may want
to buy two 25 foot hoses and a coupler.  That way you'll have greater
pressure using just one hose for most jobs, but if you need to reach
something distant, you can connect the second hose easily.

Always let the air out of the compressor at the end of the day and open the
drain petcock at the bottom of the tank to let any trapped moisture out.
This will prevent the tank from rusting and becoming a safety problem.

Dual action sanders require the most air (not psi, but volume) when compared
to the typical air tools found in the home garage.  At least, this has been
my experience.

A good compressor will run around $400 to $600 (or more), however, I've seen
DeVilbiss (a well known, quality brand) offer factory overhauled units for
around $250 at Tool King (in Colorado, at least) and you would be getting
twice the compressor when compared to what Sears offers at that price.

BTW, I was reading the postings of this archive for 1990 and noticed that
TeriAnn was having spelling/typing problems even then!  ;>)  I just thought
it was funny since the topic of her spelling came up just a few days ago.
TeriAnn, we've got an MGB, also.  BRG with a tan interior.

Have fun.
Keith Cutler
1961 Series II 88" Pickup (undergoing restoration)

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:55:13 EDT
Subject: Re: Towing with a 109

David,

You actually towed a Range Rover, with a 2.25 109 UP INTERSTATE 17!?!?!?!?

My god, you're cruel!

I got to drive that in 1990, while driving a truckload of Brit car parts from
Denver, to Los Angeles. Got stuck in a thunderstorm in Flagstaff, which turned
into a snowstorm in the Cajon Pass (in San Bernadino), which turned into a
detour to Phoenix, so that we could get into California, via Blythe.

Man, what a drive! We did it at night, in a thunderstorm, with 20-foot Penske
trucks fully loaded - black ice on the pavement, no street lights, fog , the
works! The only way to really see where we were going, was to keep pace with
the tractor-trailers that were going in the same direction - at 85mph! I'll
never forget this one curve where I almost lost it, and halfway through it,
there was this flash of lightning, and I could see the ground beyond the
guardrail, and it looked like it MUST have been 5000 feet down!

To this day, I STILL don't know how we made it!

Charles

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:48:12 +0100
Subject: RE: Perkins diesel option on 1965 109 PU

^^I've got a question for the historians out there. I'm exchanging
^^e-mail with
^^a guy in Dallas who has a '65 109" pickup with a perkins diesel in it.

Is it 4 cylinder? Probably a 4.206 - 3.3 litre

^^"Perkins diesel are used in many boats,industrial equipment,and rover
^^used the Perkins as a option in the U.S. ,the parts are still at rover
^^dealers, the person who bought this new ordered 8 of them just
^^like this for
^^his ranch,some of the others have 250k miles on them"

I have done 120K miles on my second hand engine. It is a *commercial* diesel
with geared timing etc (or at least the 4.236 is.....) Main point is to find
out what revs it is goverened to or its original application. Wuld
definately look into local spare parts availability though, for emergency
use.

^^I guess I'm hoping that the Perkins is a little peppier than the Rover
^^diesel... that sort of information would sway me toward buying it... Any
^^thoughts out there??

It is a low rever!! At most 2800 flat out, which is not too happy a sound!
Serious torque at tick over but you need to gear it up for speed on road.
However, if you do this you put much more strain on parts and need to beef
them up! It NEEDS a Salisbury rear axle at the very least ;-) Also will need
serious battery power to bleed the system, is heavy.

Despite these comments I have run the 4.236 (3.9 litre) for 7 years now.
Write personally if you want any Perkins info.

cheers

john
______________________
John McMaster
john@chiaroscuro.co.uk

green/purple 110/Massey Ferguson

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From: West <GebietWest@ATELCO.DE>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:11:23 +0200
Subject: 88 to sell / Billing 98

Hello,

IŽam still looking to got to billing this July, and in the reason of
reducing the 
costs IŽam looking for a opportnity of a lift from Germay to the UK.
IŽam also 
interested to visit a militay vehicle show somewere in Kent at the same
weekend.

Who can give me more details of this militay vehicle show in Kent ?

I can also drive with my Landrover to Billing and ?? in Kent, but then
IŽam looking 
for a few persons they wants to take a lift. The route goes from Germany
though the Nederlands and Belgium.

A friend of mine still wants to sell his 1966 Landrover 88 Petrol RHD.
Details can be seen at http://www.qsl.net/dg5dbv/sell.htm
The car  there has a little bit changed (to the pic.) The yellow/black
Bumper is gone. (a normal one is fitted).

The asking price is 4500DM. The vehicle is located in Germany (40 KM
east of Dortmund).

Cheers 

Oli

DG5DBV
1976 Landrover 109 Diesel "everyday transport" slow & smokey 
hpage: http://www.qsl.net/dg5dbv   "Where Ham pages are free"

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