1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: Giles Warham <giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:37:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: lack of power Sorry if you already know this - but just thought I would mention that when you move the transfer lever to the neutral position, you are actually also putting the vehicle into 4wd - I found this out when trying to tow a 109! I soon realised what was going on when I tried to pull it around a corner - the 101 was quite happy, but one of the wheels on the 109 I was towing actually turned (skided) backwards! I reckon I was lucky not to break a half shaft or somthing. Thinking about it - I had the same with an old 1959 S2 when rescuing it from a field prior to restoration - it had been parked and left in neutral for many years, and the trasfer lever had seized. It didnt have freewheeling hubs either - so I had to remove a half shaft to prevent it winding up while we towed it to the road a couple of miles away! Best Regards, Giles... Land-Rover 1, 2a, 3 and 101FC -> http://www.g7tgr.demon.co.uk/landy.html Internet: giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk Ampr : g7tgr@gb7ipn.#44.gbr.eu GW Computer Services - For all your computer needs. Devon and Cornwall TCP/IP Co-ordinator On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, K. John Wood wrote: > I am wondering if the 109 was properly preped to be towed and was put in > full nuetral( all possible levers placed at nuetral) and also if the front > hubs of the 109 where locked or free. If there was friction building up in > his drive line this may have put a drag on your vehicle. Also don't forget > tha the 109 weighs about 600 to 800 pounds more than the 88. ( depending on > body style)... [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] > body style)... > John ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Giles Warham <giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:16:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Production Line Work Order Tag? I have one of these bits of paper trapped under the middle seat frame in my 81 series 3 - I havent every bothered to look at it - but I will now! I dont know what the numbers mean - but would be interested. Land-Rover 1, 2a, 3 and 101FC -> http://www.g7tgr.demon.co.uk/landy.html Internet: giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk Ampr : g7tgr@gb7ipn.#44.gbr.eu GW Computer Services - For all your computer needs. Devon and Cornwall TCP/IP Co-ordinator On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Paul Quin wrote: > It was a beautiful warm evening last night so I decided to drag my seat > box assembly outside and start dismantling the old seat frames and > install my 'new' deluxe black vinyl adjustable seats (thanks again > DaveB). > I scraped and vacuumed off 37+ years of crud from the top of the box, > undid all the nuts holding on the old rusty brackets, and out falls this > little piece of paper. I almost chucked it in the garbage thinking that [ truncated by list-digester (was 44 lines)] > 1961 Series II 88 > Victoria, BC Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:29:04 -0400
Subject: Re: 15" speedo w/ 16" wheels
Re: Recalibrating speedos:
Either perform the following-car trick, or a GPS is wonderful for this. The
speed-over-ground setting on mine did indeed confirm that my speedometer is
stoned on its own brain chemistry...
ajr
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]From: "LEPRINCE Didier" <leprince@outremer.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:08:13 -0400 Subject: looking for the horn... looking for the horn... >You were lucky.When I got my '70 11A some village idiot had "rewired" the >horn button by wrapping loads of wire round the steering column,so it >unwound >going one way,and wound up going the other It is a really marvellous idea, no more contact problems, i will do it soon. In fact it is the way rotation-rotation CT Scan worked for years. Cannot be bad then D leprince ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:13:21 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: looking for the horn... In a message dated 6/6/98 2:18:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, david@infocom.com writes: << david: << If it involves JB weld, it might be a shibe. >> me: > NOW WAIT A MINUTE!! JB cold weld got me through Maryland inspection (Patched > little holes in the floor plates and such). Gotta love a product like that. david: And your point is?>> The point is (written strictly in jest) what welding setup would allow someone to go to an inspection station, get a report saying "fix holes in floorpan" (the largest measuring no more than 4 mm), drive 2 blocks up the road to El Cheezo Auto Parts, apply to holes, eat lunch (time waster), go BACK to the inspection station and then pass with the inspector saying "very nice job on this restoration" all within an hour and a half? I actually agree with your original post (If it involves JB weld, it might be a shibe.) However, it struck me as hilarious that you mentioned the very product that allowed me to pass inspection by correcting some relatively bogus "problems" Thats all Sorry for the bandwidth Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:31:55 EDT Subject: Re: Re: 15" speedo w/ 16" wheels In a message dated 6/6/98 12:31:58 AM, you wrote: >>However, in the UK there are a handful of companies who will recalibrate a >>speedo from figures you give them, I assume there will be similar in the US. >Anyone had anything like this done in the states? Price? Statesiders can look at: www.paspeedo.com or www.ccspeedometer.com there are more, too. Most hot-rod or speed shops have knowledge of speedometer calibraters in the local area... --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:41:42 EDT Subject: Re[2]: looking for the horn... In a message dated 6/6/98 8:15:49 AM, Nate wrote: >drive 2 blocks up the road to El >Cheezo Auto Parts, Wow, you have that chain up there too? I thought they were only open in Puerto Rico, Miami and San Diego! Down here, we look for cars from *up north* (north of Palm Beach) because they contain fewer SPOTs and items sourced from El Cheezo... ;-) --pat (Miami, home of the Schibesters' Hall of Fame) ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "LT S. ROCHNA" <rochnas@stennis.navy.mil> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:01:45 +0000 Subject: More about tires Any and All: I know that LRO or LRW did a tire eval last month but I still have a question about some tires. these tires that are in question are the ones in 50th anniversary issue (Issue 6 1998) of LRO Int'l on RGC 933 page 46 and 420 gym on page 44. They look like they would be loud but since they show up so often I thought they might be inexpensive. Is this the case? How are they? Are they worth it? Are they available in the US? Thanks - Steve (haze grey & underway) ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "C R. Wolfe" <cwolfe@d.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:11:51 -0500 Subject: Is is possible to get a 130 HCPU in from Costa Rica? I am very interested in getting a 130 HCPU. It would make the perfect vehicle for my dog training truck. Is it possible? Has it been done? How much would it roughly cost (good vehicle, modifications) ? I have heard it is possible to import a 130 kit to build. Is this true? Thanks Cwolfe 59 109 PU, 65 109 SW and 67 109 SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 06:41:36 -0700 Subject: door latches Looking for two locking latches (Drivers side and passenger side) for my 88 series. these were apparently unique to 69 to 71 models... please contact John Stiller Jtwinkle88@aol.com Thanks in advance Hi John, I have all three door latches from a 70-88 with same key available. BUT, the 70 is an anti burst type that is different from my 69-88. They are different from the S3 type in how they operate, but they do have a seperate hole through the door skin for the lock. On my 69, the lock is in the handle hole, but goes through to the lock. Not like the older shakey external type on the 65-88 So if you're looking for 69, then you probably only want 68-69 or maybe 67-69. Bob B From: Jtwinkle88@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:00:09 EDT Subject: 1969 Locking Door latches needed Looking for two locking latches (Drivers side and passenger side) for my 88 series. these were apparently unique to 69 to 71 models... please contact John Stiller Jtwinkle88@aol.com Thanks in advance Bob Bernard <bobnsueb@maxinet.com> Paradise,CA. 530-877-2749 69-88 "Sherman" 65-88 "Olivia" 51-80 "Shorty" ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 23:33:50 +1000 Subject: Which paint to use? Scott Wilson wrote: >Okay.... well, I'm getting my first rover... finally found one that runs, >but looks not-so-hot... It needs paint really bad right now, and I >want to completely change the color... Scott, for something completely different paint it up like a LandRover Game. This was an Aussie model that had bright yellow paint with a black breakfast and front of the guards (wings/fenders). It also had white 10-spoke wide steel rims. Check my website for a picture: www.users.bigpond.com/hillman/rover/ser_misc Regards, Ron Beckett ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 07:05:14 -0700 Subject: Re:Wix Flirters >From: "Clark, Patrick D." <Clark_PD@pillsburylaw.com> >Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:22:24 -0700 >Subject: RE: Fram Oil Flirters, or, flirting with disaster >If you're in to open filter surgery-- compare WIX. You won't find them >as readily as Fram-- but one look at the guts and you'll be willing to >hunt down a WIX. Hi, Isn't the NAPA filter made by WIX ? Bob B ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Duchanin&Greene"<P1301@mail.aai.arco.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 06:58:58 -0900 Subject: Series II and IIa engine differences I am rebuilding a IIa engine and I have a used series II engine for parts. Can I use the cam/sliders/rollers/guides, the starter dog and crank pulley from the II in the IIa rebuild? ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:09:50 EDT Subject: Re: Series II and IIa engine differences In a message dated 6/6/98 10:58:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, P1301@mail.aai.arco.com writes: << I am rebuilding a IIa engine and I have a used series II engine for parts. Can I use the cam/sliders/rollers/guides, the starter dog and crank pulley from the II in the IIa rebuild? >> Yes. The crank journals (and bearings), the valve train, and the waterpump and front cover are the main differences in the SII and SIIa Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:25:43 EDT Subject: Re: Production Line Work Order Tag? In a message dated 06/06/98 12:28:40, you write: << I have one of these bits of paper trapped under the middle seat frame in my 81 series 3 - I havent every bothered to look at it - but I will now! I dont know what the numbers mean - but would be interested. >> Try the British Heritage Motor Museum at Gaydon, Warwickshire, not got a phone number handy, they have loads of Land Rover/Rover company past files and do a search for your production details for (I think) £20 UKP best cheers Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:31:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Series II and IIa engine differences
Yes, you can use these parts.
The significant changes between the II and IIa engines (as I understand
them) were the crank and con-rods and the block cut-ins for the main
bearings.
With this, the head and front cover were also different, necessitating a
different water pump.
The pulley and cam bits are usable, though - I am doing this myself right
now.
ajr
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]From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:02:14 EDT Subject: WIX Filters Someone asked where to buy WIX Filters: http://www.dana.com/wix/question.html Actually, it is some form of FAQ page, but it lists a tel #. --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:08:15 EDT Subject: WIX Filters pt.2 Here's the actual WIX page: http://www.dana.com/wix/wix.html which, obviously can be accessed through the www.dana.com site. --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:30:29 EDT Subject: LR fraud warning Hi Guys, Back in late February when I was parting out my Series III I sold many people bits from it at what I considered to be VERY fair prices. I received checks from the buyers, sent out the parts and everyone was happy. One fellow sent me a check for $55 less than I requested, and since I trust most of the people on this list, I sent him the parts and told him to send me the rest of the money. He said the parts were satisfactory and the check was on the way. It never came. I've contacted him repeatedly and he has given me excuses ranging from "the post office has lost it" to "I lost your address" - the whole gammit. Anyway, after many attempts to collect, always with an addendum stating that if he was short the money to just LET ME KNOW and I'd understand. I sent him one last nasty note - no reply. So do yourself a favor: If a guy named Blair from San Louis Obispo CA wants to buy parts from you so he can restore his SIII, refuse. He has taken advantage of a long time contributing member (for better or for worse...) and thus has taken advantage of our brother(sister)hood, which historically has taken care of it's members. For a sum so embarrassingly paltry at that.... Thanks Alex Maiolo Hillsborough NC ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:49:00 EDT Subject: Re: LR fraud warning Alex, too bad that happened. It's too bad this market isn't a wet one, it is much easier to smell the bad fish at a wet market. Maybe the less-than- negotiated amount on the check was a tip-off... who knows, right? I know that I have bought parts from several list members, off-list in private, and we've always come away happy and better friends for it. Personally, my policy is if it is a private party selling me something, I always try to add a little to the check, just to cover the p-i-t-a factor, or to add to the (insert beer of coice) fund. I think it also makes people feel better about offering parts over the net to us, you know, so they will do it again in the future if they ever have "useless" spares again. --pat. 93 110: Lights, bulbs, lamp guards, etc. and more; all from various lro-list members. ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: MARCINKO3@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 19:54:18 EDT
Subject: Re: LR fraud warning
Alex and all,
There is something rotten in the state of Denmark when we Roverers take
advantage of one another.
We are a smaller group than any of us think. I guess I am saying, (Pardon
the 90's cliché,) but can't we all just get along?
Rover on...
Steve
Armada Off-Road LLC
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][digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ] From: "Steve Stoneham" <stoneham@kos.net> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2098 19:58:08 -0400 Subject: IIA tailboard hinges custom made or original? charset="iso-8859-1" I came across a 109 the other day that was a suffix "D" (1967-68)with = the windscreen wiper motor in the dash. Has an interesting hinge bracket setup in which the bracket on the gate = is only about 4" long x 1 1/2" with two bolt holes as opposed to most = which are roughly 16" long x 1 1/2" with three bolts per side?. Looks like an original setup but I was curious if anyone had seen one = like it. Regards, Steve ------=_NextPart_000_0015_022DAEFD.BF458A80 [ Original post was HTML ] [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: text/html; ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Joseph Broach <broach@utkux.utk.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 23:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest >In a message dated 06/06/98 05:31:58, I wrote: ><< I really don't feel that > these "short" wheels fit the truck very well and prefer the look and feel > of 7.50X16's >> >And Frank said: >Damn' right!! >15 inchers on a Landie is heresey, my man. [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)] >down - and you say what's on yours, then 40, 50 and.... well it's a Land >Rover, so... back home, small sticker/Tippex on speedo in the relevant places. Now you're thinking! This sort of thing is becoming my trademark during the resto. I love my rover, but have you looked at the loony prices on things like $200 genuine seat cushions?!? I'm currently looking for some black vinyl to patch with, anyone done any sewing on those deluxe seats? -joseph knoxville, tn ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 02:47:32 EDT Subject: Re: LR fraud warning I personally haven't bought/sold anything from/to list members YET. HOWEVER, Matt, I PROMISE that, in the next few weeks, I'll send off that pic of the Santana 109 that I took at the Reno Air Races, to you! I'll even include a pic of my 109 that I took at Black Rock, so that you can marvel at the uncanny identical-ness of the two trucks, that happened to be at the same place, on the same day, as I did. If all goes well, hell - I may even drive them to you, in my "newer" (if I get it) Range Rover. Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Frankelson@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 04:26:26 EDT Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest In a message dated 07/06/98 04:54:48, you write: << Now you're thinking! This sort of thing is becoming my trademark during the resto. I love my rover, but have you looked at the loony prices on things like $200 genuine seat cushions?!? I'm currently looking for some black vinyl to patch with, anyone done any sewing on those deluxe seats? >> Joseph, over here in the UK some things (like seat covers, ahem) are a lot less - a bit obvious really - but some of us (me especially) will not spend a £1 if I can save it!! 'cos soon enough with a Land Rover in the yard, there won't be a lot of choice. seats, try rehupholstery shops, also for the material. best cheers Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980607 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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