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1 car4doc [car4doc@concent14Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"
2 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire20Re: attachment to frame on right front horn.
3 David Scheidt [david@inf11Re: old thread
4 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l15Canvas treatments
5 john hess [jfhess@dcn.da22British Bulldog?
6 DONOHUEPE@aol.com 30Propane Heater
7 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema51Re: skuttle valve
8 NADdMD@aol.com 39Vehicle Satisfaction Survey
9 Thomas Spoto [tspoto@az.13Re: Irony-want the virtual wench!!!
10 David Kurzman [kurzman@i15Re: British Bulldog?
11 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema37Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"
12 Thomas Spoto [tspoto@az.23Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"
13 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema74Re: Propane Heater
14 Frode Hultgren [fhultgr@21Tachometer on 300 TDI
15 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l14Re: Tachometer on 300 TDI
16 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema25Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"
17 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus39Re: British Bulldog?
18 SPYDERS@aol.com 24Re: Tachometer on 300 TDI
19 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml17Spin on oil filter adapter
20 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l13Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
21 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml12RE: Spin on oil filter adapter
22 Giles Warham [giles@g7tg38RE: Series 3 brake woes #3
23 Elwyn York [Elwyny@mails43My Rattles
24 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 28Braking up
25 Thomas Spoto [tspoto@az.27Re: Cornwall ISP's
26 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1129Putty for Al Repair
27 Giles Warham [giles@g7tg20RE: My Rattles
28 Arthur Maravelis [amjas@19Re:Competent machine shop around Boston, MA?
29 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire25Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
30 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire16Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
31 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l266 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs
32 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml22RE: Spin on oil filter adapter
33 Dave Place [dplace@mb.sy13Attn: Bill Leacock
34 SPYDERS@aol.com 23Re: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs
35 CIrvin1258@aol.com 13Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
36 Brett Storey [brstore@ib17Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
37 SPYDERS@aol.com 15Re: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
38 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l18Re: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
39 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l20RE: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs
40 Robert M McCullough [die9British bulldog
41 Jarvis64@aol.com 40 Re: British Bulldog?
42 Jarvis64@aol.com 13 My Rattles
43 Jarvis64@aol.com 26electric fan thoughts?
44 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema26Re: Spin on oil filter adapter
45 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema33Re: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs
46 Dave Place [dplace@mb.sy19Brake Problem Solved
47 "Christopher H. Dow" [do14Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"
48 "Christopher H. Dow" [do28Re: British Bulldog?
49 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l12Re: Spin on oil filter adapter


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From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 06:55:00 -0500
Subject: Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"

Christopher H. Dow wrote:

Chris,
 Sorry but the pull switch is available at radio schack here in Chicago
FYI.

Regards,
 Rob Davis_Chicago

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:30:14 -0400
Subject: Re: attachment to frame on right front horn.

It`s the bracket for the steering damper.

Faye and Peter Ogilvie wrote:

>         After all the posts about lubricating the springs I was under the 88
> spraying the springs with graphite when I noticed an appendage on the right
> frame horn just forward of the axle.  Its a squarish tower about 6"-8" long
> perpendicular to the horn so it kind of points down at the axle.  It has a
> largish hole through the left/right sides.  Anyone know what this is for??
> I assume its been there these last fourteen years or is it a tumor that has
> just recently begun to grow??
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> >When in need of a winch mounting plate for a Series...Give Frank a call =
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 19 lines)]

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:34:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: old thread

On Sun, 31 May 1998 SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:

> I am looking for a website that translates text from one language to another,

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:09:51 -0400
Subject: Canvas treatments

After yesterday's torrential rains, I think it's time to treat my canvas
hood before I drown...<grin>

Someone recently posted a recipe containing beeswax and linseed oil,
applied hot. I don't remember the proportions, but if whoever that was
could let me have the recipe again i promise not to lose it this
time...<grin>

                    Al Richer

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From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:23:03 -0700
Subject: British Bulldog?

Hi,

Since BD has been the sponsor of the LRO list for a while, I thought I
would ask how many people have had good dealings with them and how many
have not.  I have heard a couple not nice stories and am curious.

cheers,

John F Hess   jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's),
1960 swb roadster oops, not anymore, he has a top!  Needs door tops and
upper and lower tailgates.
 "Slug" (Alex's) Slug needs everything, donations accepted

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:47:31 EDT
Subject: Propane Heater

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: "I'm looking for a propane heater that I can have on
all night to keep me toasty warm."

TeriAnn:

May I suggest that this heater should use inside air for combustion and vent
to the outside.  My experience winter camping (living) in a Dormobile taught
that good ventilation is very important.  When temperatures are cold enough
to need a heater, the humidity in your breath will condense and freeze on
interior surfaces.  In the morning, when the sun hits the canopy and roof
shell, this ice will melt resulting in the morning rain inside your
Dormobile.  This could be either a bug or a feature.  I found it to be a
nuisance wetting sleeping bags and making a mess.  Others thought it a novel
form of alarm clock.

For sources, you might consider stores which cater to the camper, RV, and
motorhome trade.  There is a store like this in Denver which carries a huge
variety of accessories and products for mobile living.

Now, about that water filter for the swimming pool in the basement of your
Dormobile...

Paul Donohue
1965 Dormobile

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 07:57:54 -0700
Subject: Re: skuttle valve

>what is the skuttle valve vent? i probably have it if it's on a
>land-rover, do you have a part #?

OOOPPPPSSSS

I evidently dyslexiaed out in a message I sent.

I meant to write Scuttle vent opener.

Think of a series LR.  The English term for the space between the bonnet 
and the windscreen is scuttle.  There are two air vents on the scuttle, 
hence the English term scuttle vents.  I was using the English terms for 
these parts since this is a world wide e-mail list and not everyone 
speaks American English.  I tend to call them my series II dual air 
conditioners.

These vents have an opener sitting between the instrument panel and the 
windscreen.

The Land Rovers with metal instrument panels have two kinds of openers.  
The newer one is a lever with detents

The older opener is a screw type.  These screw type vent openers came on 
North American spec series I and series II not A Land Rovers.  The lever 
type was introduced into North American with the series IIA in 1961.

I have lost a part of the early style vent opener.  I am looking for the 
captive nut in the earlier opener or a trashed early opener that I can 
extract the nut from.

ANY help you can provide on my quest would be very much appreciated.

Sorry for writing the term incorrectly.  I'm sending your e-mail out to 
the general list in an attempt to unconfuse all the other people my 
dyslexia attack  reached.

Thanks

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:57:44 EDT
Subject: Vehicle Satisfaction Survey

Good news for North American Rover Owners:

SAN DIEGO, June 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Strategic Vision today announced the results
of its Problem Impact Measure (PIM) that gauges the effect of initial problems
on new car buyers.  The new study reveals that if fixed or not serious, many
defects have little or no impact on customers' satisfaction with their new
vehicles.

"When we reviewed the automotive reliability statistics from other companies,"
said Strategic Vision vice president Daniel Gorrell," we discovered that they
rely on a simple count of problems, usually expressed in terms of things-gone-
wrong.  They leave people out of the equation."

"Basically they treat an engine failure the same as a loose screw in a trim
piece, while in fact, only five percent of new vehicle owners report defects
as serious.  How does the problem impact the owner - is it a nuisance or does
if hinder the freedom to go where you want and the security of getting there
safely?"

"Other companies also fail to take into consideration how the problem is
resolved by the dealer.  In reality, Strategic Vision's research shows that a
problem fixed quickly by the dealer can actually improve customers' overall
satisfaction with their vehicle."

Other highlights, showing the percentage of buyers who were impacted by
problems, reveal:  

*  Worst individual model:  1997 Kia Sephia (36 percent; the 1998 models may
be better)  

*  Most improved from 1997:  Land Rover, now at an industry-average 15 percent
impacted.  A tremendous effort by the Rover Group and its dealers is paying
off.

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From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 20:07:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Irony-want the virtual wench!!!

Thanks for pointing that out. I made flight reservations back in May and looked
at June to get the correct days. I guess I forgot to go back to May before
closing out the Clock/Calender.

Tom

Rob Dennis wrote:

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From: David Kurzman <kurzman@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:12:17
Subject: Re: British Bulldog?

"Hi,
Since BD has been the sponsor of the LRO list for a while, I thought I
would ask how many people have had good dealings with them and how many
have not.  I have heard a couple not nice stories and am curious.
cheers,
John F Hess   jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us"

They were set up at the Mid-Atlantic Rally last year. I bought a bunch of
stuff from them at good prices and they were really nice guys. Best, Pete

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 08:31:36 -0700
Subject: Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"

>Christopher H. Dow wrote:
>>  Be careful with those switches--I broke one, and they are NLA.
>Chris,
> Sorry but the pull switch is available at radio schack here in Chicago
>FYI.
>Regards,

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)]
>Regards,
> Rob Davis_Chicago

Rob,

Lucas makes an updated replacment push pull switch that have the 
switching contacts protected inside the body.  The knobs are similar to 
the original.  These are much better designed than the originals.  I got 
tired of cleaning contacts and replaced my switches with the new Lucas 
style.  They work fine and look good.

I now use three of these switches and they have been trouble free (heated 
windscreen, rear work lamp, front aux. lamps)

Take care 

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 20:34:28 -0700
Subject: Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"

TeriAnn,
You wouldn't by any chance have a part number would you?

Tom

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> >Christopher H. Dow wrote:
> >>  Be careful with those switches--I broke one, and they are NLA.
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 10 lines)]
> >Regards,
> > Rob Davis_Chicago
> Rob,
> Lucas makes an updated replacment push pull switch that have the
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 27 lines)]
> "How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
> Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 09:32:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Propane Heater

>May I suggest that this heater should use inside air for combustion and vent
>to the outside.  My experience winter camping (living) in a Dormobile taught
>that good ventilation is very important.  When temperatures are cold enough
'>to need a heater, the humidity in your breath will condense and freeze 
on
'>interior surfaces.  In the morning, when the sun hits the canopy and 
roof
'>shell, this ice will melt resulting in the morning rain inside your
'>Dormobile.  This could be either a bug or a feature.  I found it to be a
'>nuisance wetting sleeping bags and making a mess.  Others thought it a 
novel
'>form of alarm clock

I have encountered this frequently.  It never rains hard enough for a 
good shower though.
The propane stove generates water vapour as a biproduct.  It condenses on 
the top and causes the same problem.  

I often find myself sponging off the roof surfaces first thing in the 
morning while I am heating my morning tea.  I need to rig an effective 
bug screen to keep the  roof vent open during milder weather.  

The problem is trying to find space to mount a heater.  The 109 rear is 
only about four feet by 6 feet and I have it loaded.  So far the only 
spaces I have found are subject to being submerged while wading.  I'm 
afraid submergence may void the warrenty.

I do have a 12V electric blanket that can go inside my sleeping bag on 
cold nights but getting dressed in the morning is a bit chilly.  I worry 
about it pulling my group 24 aux battery down to the point where my 
refrigerator and water pump may not work properly unless I drive for 
several hours the next day.

I have a small electic heater that I can set up when I'm traveling and 
stop in a campground.

Did I say I live on the coast because I do not like to be too cold?

>For sources, you might consider stores which cater to the camper, RV, and
>motorhome trade. 
'
I have haunted RV and marine supply places during my car's rebuild.  The 
workers at the local Marine supply place all know my name and think I 
have a boat.

>Now, about that water filter for the swimming pool in the basement of your
>Dormobile...

How did you know I was looking into adding a basement????  There is 
unused space under the floor between the frame and the rear prop shaft. 
It looks like just the space for storrage.  Hmmm it's not big enough for 
a swiming pool but I'll have to measure it for a bath tub ;*)

>Paul Donohue
>1965 Dormobile
'
Paul, when you were counting people owning Dormobiles in CO. did you 
count Frank Jakos?  He evidently has a light green four door Dormobile.

Take care,

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Frode Hultgren <fhultgr@online.no>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:06:51 +0200
Subject: Tachometer on 300 TDI

I want to connect a vdo electrical tachometer to my Defender with 300 tdi.
But i can not find a conection point on the engine.
Do anybody know how to connect it to the engine?
Do i need any adaptor?

Frode

fhultgr@online.no 
http://home.sol.no/~hultgren/ 

Frode Hultgren 
Romolslia 19d 
7029 TRONDHEIM NORWAY 
TLF: 92 60 37 07 
FAKS: 92 77 09 25

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:09:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Tachometer on 300 TDI

Electric tachometers are usually used on petrol engines, where they can
attach to the distributor coil wire.

I might suggest an electrical tach made for Diesels might be a better idea
- they typically attach to the alternator or some other form of AC device
that can produce a signal for them.

A call to a good Diesel shop might be a good idea - ajr

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 10:13:30 -0700
Subject: Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"

>TeriAnn,
>You wouldn't by any chance have a part number would you?
'
>Tom
>.
Sorry Tom.  I have long since tossed out the packaging.

However I believe they are available through Moss Motors (800-667-7872) 
as part number 162-100.  They cost $$$25.50 ea!

Take care

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 13:14:29 EDT
Subject: Re: British Bulldog?

John Hess (hey!) asks about British Bulldog experiences...

I purchased a new Fairey capstan from Seth a few years back
for a fair price (and it was negotiated) and am 195% satisfied
with it.  Did have to make my own winch plate and had to turn
down the drive shaft and get another crankshaft end nut for it,
but it came ready to fit a D90/110 or a Stage I and I was well
informed by Seth as to what I'd have to do.  He was also kind
enough to fork over the complete manual (xeroxed, and the only
copy he had) which came with all parts info, expanded diagrams, 
instructions and hints for use, as well as some contact info.

I also purchased some little bits from his cronnies, all nice
guys, at the Middy, again all at respectable prices.

I chaulk-up the not-so-nice stories I've heard to *his* suppliers,
and frankly, I've seen these sorts of problems (sub-par quality
parts, sometimes) from ANY and all outfits, including RN, AND
most especially INCLUDING GENUINE parts.

(shall we talk shitty quality genuine springs and/or points and/or
propshafts and/or...again??...genuine,schmenuine)

As for the vehicles he sells (sold, I think he's solely into 
parts now) I can only say that when I spoke with him about potential
purchases he was totally up front about them being "reliable runners-
not fully restored vehicles" and again, for what was offerred
it all seemed to be fair market value (or better).  If anyone has
had any major problems with his rigs I'd first suspect they had no 
idea what they were in for in the first place...

rgds,
r"spread the wealth"d/nige

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:27:21 EDT
Subject: Re:  Tachometer on 300 TDI

In a message dated 6/1/98 1:10:25 PM, you wrote:

>I want to connect a vdo electrical tachometer to my Defender with 300 tdi.
>But i can not find a conection point on the engine.
>Do anybody know how to connect it to the engine?
>.
Tachs on diesels are usually hooked up to an alternator output; depending on
pulley ratio, you may need a particular tach, or a switchable one. Tachs on
diesels can be handy for stationary operation, like when you have a winch
running and you want to set a particular rpm with a hand throttle...

>Do i need any adaptor?
>.
The vendor (VDO, in this case) would usually be able to tell you what you need
for your engine and which wire on the alt to hook up to; I've found VDO to
provide comprehensive kits when I've asked.

--pat.

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:47:24 -0700 
Subject: Spin on oil filter adapter

I finally installed the spin on oil filter adapter onto my '61 SII.  It
accepts a PH8A (Ford) filter.  Seems to work well with no leaks (yet)
Good oil pressure too.  I have added a picture of it to my web page
(http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/) in the picture
gallery.  There are also a few new pictures of Sussex's '69 including a
close-up of his Koening Iron Works PTO winch.

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88" almost on the road.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:58:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

WHERE DID YOU  GET IT?

Nobody seems to know nothing on these. The Paul S. unis seem to have
disappeaed from the market, and I don't know of any others that are
one-piece (non O-ring) units.

          aj"DAMN tired of oily arms"r

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:09:37 -0700 
Subject: RE: Spin on oil filter adapter

I got mine from Paul Socholotiuk in Toronto last January.  

E-mail me if you need his phone number...

Paul Quin
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: Giles Warham <giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 00:13:40 +0100
Subject: RE: Series 3 brake woes #3

Hi - Sorry, that was an error on my part :(

I was just going to say it sounds like the Master Cylinder is failing (you get 
little bubbles in the reservoir when the rubbers wear out - but no leakage or 
loss of fluid).  Also a problem I am having (that you may get), is that if you 
over-heat the 
breaks, although the shoes don't look worn, they will actually become 
'inefficient'.   I am suffering this on one side of the 101FC (due to a slave 
cylinder sticking sometime in the past).  If your breaks are warming up enough 
to notice break fade, 
then you might be starting to overheat the breaks - I found driving 'off road 
style' (i.e. feet off, lower gear - also less effort required (!) ) works well 
in those sort of situations.

OH BTW - Neat trick for bleeding breaks: You can siphon the fluid through the 
bleed nipples (you have to get it started by manual pumping, but once you have 
fluid to all the cylinders, you can just go around and open each nipple in turn 
(start 
nearest to the master cylinder, and work your way away) - no effort required!). 
 Just open the bleed nipple, and let a load of fluid siphon through - you can 
see when there is no air left in the pipes - works every time for me.  If fluid 
doesn't 
come through fast enough for your liking, just unscrew the bleed nipple 
completely.   I can't remember where I learned to do it that way - some truck 
workshop I think.

Hope this info is useful and not stuff you already knew!

Best Regards,

Giles...
 

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From: Elwyn York <Elwyny@mailshuttle.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:56:30 +0100
Subject: My Rattles

Dear All

Firstly, sorry for the cross post. You may get this twice, or more if this
server plays up!!!

Rattles: I have managed to sort out several. One was the speedo cable that
had slipped out of its moorings and onto the exhaust, thus burning the
outer casing and rattling metal to metal.

Its raining here, so i sorted that out under the motor. Mistake. It had
just been switched off and i burnt my arm.  Not to worry, as i then had to
manouver a tricky loaded trailer into a drive that was a tight fit
(especially with all the junk along the sides!)  We managed to get it in,
in the torrential rain and hails (Hails: But its June!!!), and i soothed my
arm with the cold rain. Unfortunatly i could not train the rain to just do
my arm and drove home with the heaters on full to dry me out!

Anyway.

The Grinding/rattle i thought was from the engine is possibly from the
front drive train area, like the Prop Shaft, UJ or axel/front diff.

Anyway.

I have a freind who is considering putting a salisbury axel on the rear of
his '64 2a Swb (Estate). Can you tell me about it a bit, like fitting,
general info and problems/glitches?

Also I will be converting to unleaded soon. Can anyone reccomend any UK
suppliers of Recon/Exch Unleaded heads for a 2.25 S2 Petrol engine. I had a
quote of LEGS but am also interested in TURNER.

Thanks in advance
Happy Motoring

Elwyn
Landrover S3 LtWt & www.ey-eg.demon.co.uk

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 16:32:30 -0400
Subject: Braking up

Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com wrote:

>If you can't lock the brakes with the snails, either then the shoes are
>worn out or BACKWARDS (my favorite trick...), or the drums are oversize.
>The hydraulics have naught to do with adjustment. If you can't lock 'em
>mechanically, there's a mechanical problem - keep the AMC booster cylinder.

While I agree with everything you said, there is one more possibility.
Back in the early 1980's I ordered a new set of shoes from one of the usual
suppliers.  The steady post was about .2" away from the location on the
original shoes, though every other dimension was the same. I sent 'em back
as "defective". Perhaps some PO got ahold of some of these spurious shoes
and didn't notice....

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:53:44 +0200
Subject: Re: Cornwall ISP's

My apologies to the members of the list in Cornwall. I should have said, "in
Cornwall near Tavistock. Her father explained to me that Cornwall and Devon
were seperated by a river. That their home looks down over the river and
into Devon, and that Tavistock was across the river. Again my apologies.

T.Spoto

Thomas Spoto wrote:

> My apologies for posting this here, but I will include L.R. content.
> A friend of mine is moving back to the U.K., and will be in need of an
> Internet Service Provider in the Tavistock area of Cornwall. Anyone have
> an opinion on the I.S.P.'s in that area? How about a site that would
> list the various I.S.P.'s in an area.
> Land Rover content. I've just about talked her into buying a Defender
> when she gets home. Her parents are trying hard to get her to keep her
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> 72 88 Pick-up  67 88 canvas top

 

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:09:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Putty for Al Repair

Hi All -

	Is there a special putty that I can use to repair my Al body
panels? There is a lot of corrosion along the rear 1/4 panels. There are
also numerous holes everywhere.

	I have seen a product called Al putty, made by a company called
Devcon. It's sold by AIN plastics for 30$ a pound (email:
sales@ainplastic.com). It says here that it is an aluminum filled epoxy
putty. It bonds to Al and other metals, and cures overnight at room temp.
It can then be machined drilled taped etc. Anybody ever used this stuff?
(There is also a pourable version - if anybody is interested.)

Thanks in advance - Peter

-----------------------
Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: Giles Warham <giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:15:05 +0100
Subject: RE: My Rattles

TURNER Engineering unleaded head (gas flowed) is excellent.  We fitted one to a 
1967 S2a with excellent results - more power etc.

Best regards,
Giles.

Land-Rover Series 1 SWB, Series 2a SWB, Series 3 LWB, and 101FC.
Devon & Cornwall Amateur Packet Radio TCP/IP co-ordinator.
Internet: giles@g7tgr.demon.co.uk   ---   Ampr: g7tgr@g7tgr.ampr.org 
[44.131.208.33]
AX25: g7tgr@gb7ipn.#44.gbr.eu  ---Checked weekly.
GW Computer Services - For all your computer needs.

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From: Arthur Maravelis <amjas@gis.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:01:19 -0400
Subject: Re:Competent machine shop around Boston, MA? 

Jeff,

I haven't needed the services of a shop as yet but I spoke with Bruce from
DAP a while back about "Plug 'n Spanner" in Somerville. He knew and
recommended them. That's really the only place close to Boston; British
Bulldog is a bit far down by Fall River but I'm sure they do more work on
LRs. I haven't contacted Plug but they do focus only on British cars, so
give them a call.

Art
'72 S3 88
'69 TR6 PI
Boston, MA   USA

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 06:19:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

Paul.  Make very sure you have the adapter on the right way round. Your
comment about good oil pressure bothers me. If you have it back to front you
will reverse the oil flow through the filter and the filter non return valve
is "leaking" backwards or trying to, hence the high pressure. A certain
individual who we will not name knows all about seizing engines because of
this.

Paul Quin wrote:

> I finally installed the spin on oil filter adapter onto my '61 SII.  It
> accepts a PH8A (Ford) filter.  Seems to work well with no leaks (yet)
> Good oil pressure too.  I have added a picture of it to my web page
> (http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/) in the picture
> gallery.  There are also a few new pictures of Sussex's '69 including a
> close-up of his Koening Iron Works PTO winch.
> Paul Quin
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> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/
> Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 06:21:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

Paul S. was at my place last weekend and told me he is having a new batch
made up.

Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com wrote:

> WHERE DID YOU  GET IT?
> Nobody seems to know nothing on these. The Paul S. unis seem to have
> disappeaed from the market, and I don't know of any others that are
> one-piece (non O-ring) units.
>           aj"DAMN tired of oily arms"r

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:24:13 -0500
Subject: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs

When I was reading all this 6 cyl. diesel engines stuff, I realized that no 
one had made any comment about the most usual engine adaptation found in 
this country.
What people do around here is to install a toyota "B" diesel engine with 
gearbox and transfer case as found in LandCruisers.
It is a 3 liter engine with more horsepower, and a gear box that makes them 
much more speedier.
I have seen a lot of trucks with this conversion. Specially 109's are 
worked this way.
I researched a little and found that the whole job is performed for about 
US$2500.

LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ
JCCCSA Departamento Legal
lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
lgutierr@hotmail.com

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:19:05 -0700 
Subject: RE: Spin on oil filter adapter

Thanks for the tip.

I checked (and rechecked) the orientation Vs the instructions when I
bolted it in.

What I meant by good oil pressure is that it is the same as before I
changed filters (no higher, no lower)

The instruction sheet said to make sure that the oil pressure sender
hole faced up and forward and, as you can see from the picture, it is
so...

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88"
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: Dave Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:02:21 -0700
Subject: Attn: Bill Leacock

Hi Bill
The Rover I am having the problem with the brakes not having any
adjustment on is an 88 " 1969 IIA.  I could very easily have the shoes
reversed on the one front wheel I guess.  I will look this evening.  The
drums were checked with a micrometer and they are OK and the cylinders
are moving OK, just needs two pushes to move the shoes.  They were OK
then suddenly started to need the two pushes.  Dave VE4PN

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:02:43 EDT
Subject: Re:  6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs

In a message dated 6/1/98 6:28:12 PM, you wrote:

>What people do around here is to install a toyota "B" diesel engine with 
>gearbox and transfer case as found in LandCruisers.
It is a 3 liter engine with more horsepower, and a gear box that makes them 
much more speedier.
I have seen a lot of trucks with this conversion. Specially 109's are 
worked this way.
>I researched a little and found that the whole job is performed for about 
>US$2500.
>.
For that amount of money, wouldn't you be able to buy a *whole* Toyota? or
2/3s of a LR? I guess the whole draw for them would be the aluminum body, as
the LCs seem easier to find parts for in countries like CR... maybe that's the
ideal LR; good body & suspension mated to a stronger engine...

--pat.

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:11:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

British Pacifics' FORMER owner, used to make them up on his own milling
machine, and sell them!

Unfortunately, he sold off the company a few years ago (about 3, or 4), and no
longer has anything to do with them.

Charles (got one on each of my trucks!)

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From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 20:22:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

Come on Dave, give me a break. The assembled geniuses and I only had the engine
out three times before we figured out what the problem was....., hey, wait a
minute. You were there and had your hands just as dirty as I did. What's up with
that?

d.h.lowe (aka Aunt Daphne) wrote:

<snip>
A certain
individual who we will not name knows all about seizing engines because of
this.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:22:10 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

I just read that Paul S. was going to run another batch, which may invalidate
what I write below:

I got a catalogue a few weeks/months ago and it had the spin-on-replacement
adapter, now if only I could remember which one... I think it was an East
Coast seller, not RN or triple-c, so perhaps it was AB or BB... never got
anything in the mail from DAP, so couldn't have been them...

--pat.

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:40:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

Re: East Coast supplier of adapters:

It was AB - they're remarketing the double-plate one with an O-ring between
the sections.

If ever there was a design that was going to make me nervous, it was that
one...looks to me like a disaster in the making.

I'm sure it works, but that big O-ring between the sections gives me the
willies...

               aj"Paranoid? Hell, yes!"r

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:51:16 -0500
Subject: RE: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs

Toyota parts, specially for LC, are quite easy to find. The common knowledge is 
that you can find Toyota spares even at any drugstore.
But no, LC are not cheap around here!!!, quite the opposite, for a 1976 LC in 
fair condition you would expect to pay around US$6000.
They even get stolen more often that new cars. There is a huge market for those 
cars.

LUIS MANUEL GUTIERREZ
JCCCSA Departamento Legal
lgutierr@jccr.co.cr
lgutierr@hotmail.com

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From: Robert M McCullough <dieselbob@erols.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:16:49 -0400
Subject: British bulldog

I have had limited experience with these folks but from what I've seen
they are reputable people who support Land Rover functions, prices are
very good, no complaints from me.

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:17:22 EDT
Subject:   Re: British Bulldog?

Hi everybody,

As for Seth and those guys, I've very little but good to say about 'em.  I've
bought lots of stuff from them (including an axle and a radiator--my two
biggest purchases of late) and found their prices and their service good.
Once they get their leaf-sprung catalog out things will get even better, since
one of the only bad things I have to say is that ordering parts from guys who
don't drive leaf sprung rovers (I could tell when they expressed disbelief at
my story of my turn signal flasher temporarily operating my fuel guage), w/o a
catalog open in front of both of you, gets confusing, just like a sentence w/
too many commas and clauses.

Their warehouse is big and they have a ton of genuine parts, as well as other
stuff.  I was surprised at the high percentage of genuine (or at least items
bearing stickers that fooled me) stuff.

I think they still sell some vehicles, and definitely work on 'em. 

Enjoyed my visit w/ them, got invited off-roading but had to decline as I had
about 500 miles to go that day, and Seth gave me a bunch of extra goodies to
go w/ my axle while I was there.

The only other bad experience is w/ some brake drums which appear to be a bit
rough-cut and screeched like crazy.  Have spoken to another guy who had same
problem w/ their drums and got 'em turned ever so slightly and that solved it.
I've just thrown my old drums back on and am now too lazy to turn these, so
I've rust-proofed 'em and will resurrect them when necessary.  I should add
that the price of these drums plus the price of turning to eliminate the
squeal will still be less than a pair of drums from several other suppliers.
I guess I oughtta tell Seth too, eh?

Bill(just can't get that Chevy 283 off my mind)Rice
Watertown NY for the next 17 days
SIIA 109 SW  Mrs. Merdle

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:17:16 EDT
Subject:  My Rattles

Elwyn,
There's what appears to be a good article on putting a Salisbury under an 88"
in the February '98 issue of LRW.
I just put one on my 109 and the article covers everything I needed to know,
plus all the stuff about moving the spring seats on the axle inward.

Bill

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:17:28 EDT
Subject: electric fan thoughts?

Hi folks,
Does anybody know if I can strike a happy medium between $60 Western Auto
electric fans that mount through the core of the radiator (yikes!) and $250
Flexalite fans w/ the proper brackets?

Is there a good way to adapt the cheapie fans?

I don't think my Pontiac fan 10" from my radiator will work terribly well in
Georgia, although I've had 0 problems here in the land of the ice and snow.

Plus I just want an electric one anyway so I can have a kill switch on it for
fording.

Any ideas?

An Aside:  Sorry for the spelling correction last week.  Certainly didn't mean
to offend anyone. I don't think anal retentive is the right term for us
spelling-correctors.  Maybe obsessive compulsive . . .

Bill(Arrrgh, not a split infinitive!)Rice

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:07:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

>WHERE DID YOU  GET IT?
'
>Nobody seems to know nothing on these. The Paul S. unis seem to have
>disappeaed from the market, and I don't know of any others that are
>one-piece (non O-ring) units.
'
SO why don't you just purchase a genuine Land Rover spin on oil filter 
adaptor???  They came from the factory on the 2.5L engines.  They fit 
properly on 2.25L engines, work properly and use a Fram PH8A spin on oil 
filter.

I have a picture of one on my web site.

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:24:41 -0700
Subject: Re: 6 cyl toyota diesels in series LRs

>When I was reading all this 6 cyl. diesel engines stuff, I realized that no 
>one had made any comment about the most usual engine adaptation found in 
'>this country.
>What people do around here is to install a toyota "B" diesel engine with 
>gearbox and transfer case as found in LandCruisers.
'>It is a 3 liter engine with more horsepower, and a gear box that makes 
them 
>much more speedier.
>I have seen a lot of trucks with this conversion. Specially 109's are 
'>worked this way.
>I researched a little and found that the whole job is performed for about 
'>US$2500.

SOunds interesting.  I didn't ask about it because the engine never made 
it to the US and parts would be hard to come by.  I looked around and 
asked about light commercial trucks that looked common.

But for the price it might be worth a vacation down South.  Did the price 
include parts???

TeriAnn Wakeman              I belong to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Dave Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:05:21 -0700
Subject: Brake Problem Solved

Thanks to those who responded.  Indeed I put one set of shoes on
backward and the pin didn't touch the cam.  Once I turned the shoes
around and bled the system, I have brakes again. One other thing I did
was put the top spring on one wheel from shoe to shoe instead of from
one shoe to the backing plate post.  Of course when I went to put the
opposite wheel on, the cylinder wouldn't compress enough to get the drum
on.  Once I changed the driver side brake spring, the passenger side
drum fit just fine.  I bled the system and there was lots of air in it
and lots of dirt.  Tomorrow I think I will bleed the entire system and
put in clean fluid. I found that the PO had used the wrong length of
spring on one wheel and it didn't allow for the proper travel of the
brake shoe under pressure, now I changed that it works just fine.  Dave
VE4PN

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From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:47:44 -0700
Subject: Re: "Switch for Panel Lights"

car4doc wrote:
> Christopher H. Dow wrote:
> >  Be careful with those switches--I broke one, and they are NLA.
> Chris,
>  Sorry but the pull switch is available at radio schack here in Chicago
> FYI.

Lucas switches at *Radio Shack*?  I think NOT!  

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From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:57:00 -0700
Subject: Re: British Bulldog?

Hey John,

I bought a bunch of stuff from him for the Great Wiper Conversion of 1997. 
Turned out he was the only person to whom I could turn for stuff like the box in
wich the single motor goes and the rack for the wiper drive cable.  I'd
definitely go through him again, and have kept an eye on his web page.  I think
someone on Mendo got a brake pedal assembly from him for a single-to-dual,
manual-to-power brake conversion--either TA or Nick, maybe, or I could be FOS on
that.

BTW, As far as sponsoring the LRO list, I think it's great that Bill has made a
real go of something that seemed like an anti-spam policy at first.  God Job,
Bill.  It's effective at stopping spammers like Corn Flakes (hmmm...I seem to
have Chuckles on the brain tonight), and lets nice guys get some air time in
return for sponsorship of this great list.

C

john hess wrote:
8<
> Since BD has been the sponsor of the LRO list for a while, I thought I
> would ask how many people have had good dealings with them and how many

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:38:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adapter

Re: Original Spin-On?

Not at $200 here and not much less in the UK, thank you. Th e fiscal
break-even there is too high for convenience.

                    ajr

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