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1 Easton Trevor [Trevor_Ea9Non PC comment on TeriAnn's site.
2 Gregory Petrolati [gpetr35Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
3 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l11Re: Swivel balls bearing & seals
4 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o22Re: A klinging sound!
5 Adrian Redmond [channel624Re: Land Rover Painting Questions
6 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M12Re: Land Rover Painting Questions
7 Terje Krogdahl [tekr@nex43Re: A klinging sound!
8 deedavis@etch-eshop.ME.B76Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
9 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us14Re: New Land Rover magazine
10 DSand95510 [DSand95510@a17Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
11 nicholsj@oakwood.org 11Re[2]: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd
12 fzampa@cennet.mc.peachne21Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
13 Gregory Petrolati [gpetr28Re: Re[2]: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd
14 Gregory Petrolati [gpetr21Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
15 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l16RE: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
16 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l16RE: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
17 Billy Zoom [billyzoom@ea9Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
18 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml24Ahh, Nuts.
19 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 37Painting woes
20 Mike & Tich Marsh [manag18Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
21 "Brian Jenkins" [brian@n18Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
22 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema42Re: A klinging sound!
23 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema19Re: Non PC comment on TeriAnn's site.
24 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1126Refinishing Steel/Al Parts
25 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire24Re: Refinishing Steel/Al Parts
26 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1116Re: Refinishing Steel/Al Parts
27 "Steve Stoneham" [stoneh32Series II heater layout
28 b.boehlers@olsy.dk (Bent25RE: Land Rover Painting Questions
29 b.boehlers@olsy.dk (Bent35RE: A klinging sound!


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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:31:00 -0400
Subject: Non PC comment on TeriAnn's site.

I note that when I get to TeriAnn's web page for B2B that it's entitled
Boarder to Boarder.
This is the first indication that TeriAnn has lodgers in the Green Rover.

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From: Gregory Petrolati <gpetrola@prairienet.org>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

	The Central Illinois Triumph Owners Association & The Prairie
	Octagon MG Club proudly announces the seventh annual Champagne 
	British Car Festival held in Urbana-Champaign Illinois, 
	May 22-24 1998.

	Our festival is a 3 day event with activities for enthusiasts and 
	their families including:

	A murder mystery, Walking rallye, Funkhana, High tea, Driving tour
	Pub crawl (in a genuine British double decker bus), raffles, door 
	prizes,and participant's choice car show (just to name a few)...

	For our brochure send me your "Snail-Mail" address.
 
	Or check ourWeb site:

	www.prairienet.org/community/clubs/cbcf/homepage.html

	In observation of our 7th annual festival, activities will have a 
	"Bond-James-Bond" theme and honor Lotus as our featured marque
	(the favored ride of discriminating spies everywhere)... 

	Never say never... Join us here!

	Greg Petrolati - Phone (217) 355-1944

gpetrola@prairienet.org                         1962 TR4 (CT4852L)
	"That's not a leak... My car is just marking its territory!"
Greg Petrolati, Champaign, Illinois

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 06:58:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Swivel balls bearing & seals

Oli,

That is an excellent description - thanks from all of us for it.

               ALan

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 11 May 98 15:48:13 EST
Subject: Re: A klinging sound!

>I was wondering! - I often a hear strange - klinging sound when I start 
>up my engine! - this used to go away as the engine revs went up - and I 
>thought and think that it was connected with oil pressure - but sometimes 
>the oil pressure is high up but the klinging sound is still there! - 
>Someone ones told me it was the timing chain tensioner that was a bit 
>*stuck*! - If it is it! - why is he doing it? - and is it hard to fix?

I have a "klinging" sound too. It is audible in the vehicle at higher revs and 
outside the vehicle evewn at idle. It goes away completely when the fan belt is 
removed. try that and see what happens. I apparently is in the water pump or 
alternator, but I suspect its the waterpump. Try it and see. I guess the next 
step is to spray wd40 on one pulley, if that makes it go away (i.e. that pulley 
is slipping and therefore not turning) then you have located the source. I have 
never actaully tried this method but I have heard it described.
later
DaveB

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:00:53 +0200
Subject: Re: Land Rover Painting Questions

After years of using black enamel "machine" paint for my 88" chassis- I
am about to try the Black Hammerite solution, I tried a small patch last
night and was impressed by the cover and the finish.

Any sage words of wisdom or warning out there?

Adrian Redmond

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:35:16 +0000
Subject: Re: Land Rover Painting Questions

>Any sage words of wisdom or warning out there?

Only that it'll come off if it gets oil or such like on it.Its only
waterproof.

Mike Rooth

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From: Terje Krogdahl <tekr@nextel.no>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:52:50 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: A klinging sound!

On Mon, 11 May 1998, Olafur Agust Axelsson wrote:

> Someone ones told me it was the timing chain tensioner that was a bit
> *stuck*! - If it is it! - why is he doing it? - and is it hard to fix?

I had a similar problem once, and went through the somewhat laborious task
of removing the water pump and front cover to get at the tensioner.
The tensioner seemed fine, but I cleaned it an reassembled the front end...
only to find that the klinging sound was still there. I just lived with it
for a while, until one sunny day when I decided to have another go at it.
Closer inspection (of the shop manual, that is...) revealed that the
timing chain vibration damper needed adjustment. It was too far away
from the chain. Readjusting is simple, loosen the bolts holding it,
and use a feeler gauge to get the correct clearance. (I cannot
remember what the clearance should be, as I don't have the shop
manual at hand right now, but I could look it up (for a SIII 2.25 petrol
anyway)).

The hard part it getting to the timing chain. You need to remove the
breakfast, radiator, fan, fan pulley (that's a hard one, the nut
on the crankshaft is TIGHT!), water pump, and finally, the front cover.
Apart from all the work involved, the job is quite easy. Check the state
of the cogs on the chain wheels, the state of the chain itself, and the
tensioner while you're in there. If you disassebmle the tensioner, make
shure the spring inside doesn't jump off into the unknown...

Oh, and of the chain and the wheels inside do not show any sign of wear,
do not remove either the chain nor the wheels. To much work in realigning 
them...

This is an excellent time to renew the crankshaft oil seal, by the way.

-- 
Terje Krogdahl
Norwegian Land Rover Club
http://www.land.rover.no
1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol

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From: deedavis@etch-eshop.ME.Berkeley.EDU (Dee Davis)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

LOTUS?  The REAL James bond drove a BENTLEY.

Respectfully,

Dee Davis

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	From: Gregory Petrolati <gpetrola@prairienet.org>
	Subject: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
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		The Central Illinois Triumph Owners Association & The Prairie
		Octagon MG Club proudly announces the seventh annual Champagne 
		British Car Festival held in Urbana-Champaign Illinois, 
		May 22-24 1998.
	
		Our festival is a 3 day event with activities for enthusiasts 
and 
		their families including:
	
		A murder mystery, Walking rallye, Funkhana, High tea, Driving 
tour
		Pub crawl (in a genuine British double decker bus), raffles, 
door 
		prizes,and participant's choice car show (just to name a few)...
	
		For our brochure send me your "Snail-Mail" address.
	 
		Or check ourWeb site:
	
		www.prairienet.org/community/clubs/cbcf/homepage.html
	
		In observation of our 7th annual festival, activities will have 
a 
		"Bond-James-Bond" theme and honor Lotus as our featured marque
		(the favored ride of discriminating spies everywhere)... 
	
		Never say never... Join us here!
	
		Greg Petrolati - Phone (217) 355-1944
	
	gpetrola@prairienet.org                         1962 TR4 (CT4852L)
		"That's not a leak... My car is just marking its territory!"
	Greg Petrolati, Champaign, Illinois
	

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:46:37 -0400
Subject: Re: New Land Rover magazine

As with porno magazines...it's more fun to be doing it than reading about 
it.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: DSand95510 <DSand95510@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:01:17 EDT
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

In a message dated 98-05-12 13:40:12 EDT, deedavis@etch-eshop.ME.Berkeley.EDU
writes:

>LOTUS?  The REAL James bond drove a BENTLEY.
>Respectfully,
>Dee Davis

If you read "Dr. No," you'll find he drove a HILLMAN !!

DS
Seattle

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From: nicholsj@oakwood.org
Date: Tue, 12 May 98 14:37:22 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd

     
            If you watch "Dr. NO", 007 drove a Sunbeam Alpine. Of course you    
            can't forget the Aston Martin he tooled around in books and movies.

            Jeff

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From: fzampa@cennet.mc.peachnet.edu (Fred Zampa)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:54:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

if james bond drove a hillman in the book and an aston martin in the
movie,then it is not true that the book is always better than the movie.

           fred zampa

At 02:01 PM 5/12/98 EDT, DSand95510 wrote:
>In a message dated 98-05-12 13:40:12 EDT, deedavis@etch-eshop.ME.Berkeley.EDU
>writes:
>>LOTUS?  The REAL James bond drove a BENTLEY.
>>Respectfully,
>>Dee Davis

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 22 lines)]
>DS
>Seattle

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From: Gregory Petrolati <gpetrola@prairienet.org>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:51:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd

On Tue, 12 May 1998 nicholsj@oakwood.org wrote:
>             If you watch "Dr. NO", 007 drove a Sunbeam Alpine. Of course you  
  
>             can't forget the Aston Martin he tooled around in books and 
movies.
>             Jeff

> In a message dated 98-05-12 13:40:12 EDT, deedavis@etch-eshop.ME.Berkeley.EDU 
> writes:
> >LOTUS?  The REAL James bond drove a BENTLEY. 
> If you read "Dr. No," you'll find he drove a HILLMAN !!

	Children please... If you can't get along I'll have to separate you.

	We know what all the AKA Bonds drove... We're LBC owners, we pay 
	attention to this vital minutiae.

	Greg Petrolati

gpetrola@prairienet.org                         1962 TR4 (CT4852L)
	"That's not a leak... My car is just marking its territory!"
Greg Petrolati, Champaign, Illinois

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From: Gregory Petrolati <gpetrola@prairienet.org>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:53:58 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

On Tue, 12 May 1998, Fred Zampa wrote:

> if james bond drove a hillman in the book and an aston martin in the
> movie,then it is not true that the book is always better than the movie.
>            fred zampa

	Yes, Ursala Andress is always much better on film than on paper

	"It's gotta be jelly `cos jam don't shake like that!"

	Greg "I'm so ashamed" Petrolati

gpetrola@prairienet.org                         1962 TR4 (CT4852L)
	"That's not a leak... My car is just marking its territory!"
Greg Petrolati, Champaign, Illinois

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:28:03 -0500
Subject: RE: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

There is no point to it.
In every novel, or movie he drove a different car.
One could say: No, he drove a BMW!!!!
If someone wants to right a list of what cars he drove in which novel/movie, 
that's another thing.

:-)

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:28:03 -0500
Subject: RE: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

There is no point to it.
In every novel, or movie he drove a different car.
One could say: No, he drove a BMW!!!!
If someone wants to right a list of what cars he drove in which novel/movie, 
that's another thing.

:-)

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From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:19:01 -0700
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

> >LOTUS?  The REAL James bond drove a BENTLEY.
> If you read "Dr. No," you'll find he drove a HILLMAN !!
He drove lots of things, but he owned Bentleys

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:27:32 -0700
Subject: Ahh, Nuts.

If any of you are about to replace your engine / transmission mounts on
an old vehicle,  this is a small tid-bit you might want to remember.

The new mounts now seem to have metric threads.  Common part for
Defenders etc?

No big deal except when it's 8PM and you have everything ready to put
the transmission back in, only to find that the nuts that came off of
the old mounts don't go on the new mounts!  Everything then goes on hold
until tomorrow when you can get down to Capitol Iron for a set of No. 10
metric nuts...

Any other metric / SAE conflicts that I should know of beforehand??

Paul Quin
1961 Series II
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4954/
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:37:39 -0400
Subject: Painting woes

Art Bitterman was having a spot of bother getting paint to look right. Here
are a few pointers (gathered from painting a sailboat with Awlgrip epoxy
paint.  Awlgrip is *very* demanding in terms of technique and its thinners
will scramble brain cells fast if sprayed w/o a respirator).  I would
hazard that most Rovers in this world are painted with rollers...and *house
paint* to boot.  I've re-sprayed my Rover twice...and both times during the
summer when temperatures were too high to do a good job.

Don't have the paint store use one of those shaker thingamabobs to mix the
paint.  It induces a lot of minute bubbles....as you may have discovered.

When brushing, use a "brushing thinner".  Some paints have a variety of
reducers depending upon temperature.  The DuPont "DuLux" can be formulated
for either brush or spray application.

The roll-and-tip method can work quite well...you just have to keep a "wet
edge" on the paint.  I like to use a small (4") foam roller and an almost
dry brush (two, actually, the spare residing in a can of thinner) to tip
out the roller.

Are you sure they are bubbles, not minute specks of dust/dirt?  Use a
tac-rag just before application.  Good luck

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Mike & Tich Marsh <manager@petrie.starway.net.au>
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:28:56 +1000
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

At 02:01 PM 12/05/1998 EDT, DSand95510 wrote:
>If you read "Dr. No," you'll find he drove a HILLMAN !!

Really? What type?

Mike

Brisbane, Australia
63 Imp Mk I
67 Imp Mk II
67 Imp GT
63 Humber Super Snipe Series IV

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From: "Brian Jenkins" <brian@nettrek.com.au>
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:05:10 +0800
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Re:  Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)

". . . James Bond had been nursing his car, the old Continental
Bentley--the 'R' type chassis with the big 6 engine and a 13:40
back-axle ratio--that he had now been driving for three years, along
that fast but dull stretch of N.1 between Abbeville  and Montreuil. .
."    [Opening of chapter 2, On Her Majesty's Secret Service]

Brian Jenkins

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Studebaker: "Give more than you promise"

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 98 17:17:48 -0700
Subject: Re: A klinging sound!

;>I was wondering! - I often a hear strange - klinging sound when I start 
up
;>my engine! - this used to go away as the engine revs went up - and I
;>thought and think that it was connected with oil pressure - but 
sometimes
;;>the oil pressure is high up but the klinging sound is still there! -
>Someone ones told me it was the timing chain tensioner that was a bit
;>*stuck*! - If it is it! - why is he doing it? - and is it hard to fix?

 The timing chain tensioner is operated by oil pressure.  Oil has to pump 
through a very little hole to push the tensioner out and tighten the belt.

As the belt wears it gets longer and the tensioner needs to pump out 
farther  to tighten the belt.  When the belt is loose it rattles against 
the housing making that rattling sound that you are hearing.

When you start the engine it takes a little time for the cold oil to be 
pushed throuigh those little pasages.  The chain will probably rattle 
more on cold morning starts than on restarts when the engine is warm.

If you hear that rattling all the time when the engine is running then a 
partical has most likely clogged the hole for the tensioner keeping it 
from pulling the chain tight.  This will destroy the chain fairly quickly.

The rattling when you first start an engine is not a sign that the car is 
broken, just that there is some wear on the engine.  If you want to get 
rid of it you can replace the timing chain.  But everything else involved 
needs to be in good condition too. 

TeriAnn Wakeman              I subscribe to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 98 17:21:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Non PC comment on TeriAnn's site.

>I note that when I get to TeriAnn's web page for B2B that it's entitled
>Boarder to Boarder.

Thanks I already noticed the typo and corrected it.  I always appriciate 
feedback about my typos so that I can correct them.  Thanks.

TeriAnn Wakeman              I subscribe to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Refinishing Steel/Al Parts

Hi Everybody - as you know the door bottoms and liftgates of rovers are
steel next to Al alloy. If you could see my rovers bed, you would know - if
you don't already - steel and Al don't exactly get along! Now, I have some
door bottoms and a liftgate I would like to refinish. I was thinking I'd
bring them to a shop and have them solvent stripped. Now, once they are
dipped and stripped - the remaining paint will be removed from the
interface of these two closest friends. Is there a good way to primer all
these tight nooks and crannies so the two metals won't react together? I
suppose I could just paint over what's there but I'd like to do it
thoroughly. Anybody have any pointers for this?
	See you in Cortland - Peter

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Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:37:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Refinishing Steel/Al Parts

Galvanise the frames. If not possible prime and paint and spray with rubberised
undercoating before you reskin them.There is a product known as Denso Tape
which is used in the Petro Chemical and Gas Industry and which is used on the
steel frames of both double decker busses and Subway rail cars to isolate the
Aluminum (ium) skins. This company is represented in U.S. and Canada

Peter M. Kaskan wrote:

> Hi Everybody - as you know the door bottoms and liftgates of rovers are
> steel next to Al alloy. If you could see my rovers bed, you would know - if
> you don't already - steel and Al don't exactly get along! Now, I have some
> door bottoms and a liftgate I would like to refinish. I was thinking I'd
> bring them to a shop and have them solvent stripped. Now, once they are
> dipped and stripped - the remaining paint will be removed from the
> interface of these two closest friends. Is there a good way to primer all
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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Refinishing Steel/Al Parts

Hi There - How do I take off the skins? Can you unfold the Al? - Peter

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Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "Steve Stoneham" <stoneham@kos.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:12:08 -0400
Subject: Series II heater layout
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I recently towed home a 1960 SWB SW and noticed the heater setup is =
different again from other Series II models I've seen.
Some of course had the "shin burner" radial style heater and later =
models had a fresh air heater which brought the air in from the =
front,inside edge of the right side fender (beside the breakfast).
This particular model has no holes in the fender but instead has an =
intake located in the middle of the
mudshield.It ends in a roughly 3" diameter tube with a damper and =
projects about 1" through the mudflap.It would seem that if warmer air =
were preffered you could open another duct leading into the passenger =
footwell.This tube ends in a flaired (the duct was simply cut all the =
way around the pipe at 11/2" intervals) folded back and pop riveted to =
the upper footwell.The distribution box also ends in a dual pipe affair =
(center of bulkhead)which sweeps up on a 45 degree angle to the demister =
pans.Bulkhead,mudshields appear to be completely original and in very =
good shape.
Anyone have,or has seen,a similar setup in a Series II ?
Last numbers of the chassis are #1426(or thereabouts). By #4000(1960) =
the standard fresh air intake through the fender method was in place.

Steve

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From: b.boehlers@olsy.dk (Bent Boehlers)
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:38:19 +0200
Subject: RE: Land Rover Painting Questions

	Mike Rooth[SMTP:M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk] wrote:

>>Any sage words of wisdom or warning out there?

>Only that it'll come off if it gets oil or such like on it.Its only
>waterproof.

Sorry to disappoint you, but 2 years ago I painted the oilpan under my V8 
with green hammerite. It is still there, and I am nearly sure, that it is 
not water, running down on the outside of that engine, after all it is made 
by Land-Rover.

Happy Rovering

Bent Boehlers

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From: b.boehlers@olsy.dk (Bent Boehlers)
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:05:29 +0200
Subject: RE: A klinging sound!

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org[SMTP:dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org] wrote:

>I have a "klinging" sound too. It is audible in the vehicle at higher revs 
and
>outside the vehicle evewn at idle. It goes away completely when the fan 
belt is
>removed. try that and see what happens. I apparently is in the water pump 
or
>alternator, but I suspect its the waterpump. Try it and see. I guess the 
next
>step is to spray wd40 on one pulley, if that makes it go away (i.e. that 
pulley
>is slipping and therefore not turning) then you have located the source. I 
have
>never actaully tried this method but I have heard it described.

I have had something similar, but when reving up, it changed to a whine.
It was the alternator. The fan between the pulley and the alternator was 
touching the iron shield around it, it took less than a minuet to press it 
into proper shabe with my fingers, but nearly half an hour to find the 
problem.

Happy Rovering

Bent Boehlers

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