1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: kerryscott@usa.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:26:50 Subject: Safari Roof Shipment Many thanks to everyone who took time to offer advice on getting a safari roof from upstate New York to Virginia. I'd have loved to have made the drive, but there was not enough time before the PO shipped out to Okinawa. Here's what we did: I contacted a moving company in the town where the PO lived. For $100 they picked up the roof, took it to their warehouse, packaged it and called the common carrier I selected to come pick it up. It was wrapped in multiple layers of cotton batting and corrugated sheets. They were careful to mark it "do not double stack" and the carrier was careful. It was shipped flat. It arrived 2 days later, none the worse for wear. Kudos to Felice Trucking in Rome, New York and Preston Trucking. The LTL charges are supposed to come in at about $55. Thanks again for everyone's help. Kerry Scott 1970 IIA 88" (soon with safari roof) ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Wakefield - Serco <Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:05:02 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: re: fuel_additive Alessandro Castellana <kastel@tor.it> wrote: > I have a 69SIIA 88 ser# 27105726C and a78SIII 88 ser#90920883A > Do you know fuel_additive to reduce the smoke? Alessandro Petrol or Diesel ? I assume if you are in Italy it will be a diesel ! It depends what is causing your smoke. If the Oil control rings on the pistons are shot or your injectors are worn etc then no amount of fuel additive will stop it smoking. If the engine is just 'coked' you could try some "Redex" additives, but I haven't seen them here, only in the UK. Ciao, Paul. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:16:33 -0400 (EDT) unsubscribe lro ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:15:34 +0100 Subject: Re: speedo (FFR) I don't know about repairs. I could do with mine working anyway - whether it needs it for the MoT or not (2 sources say I don't). I also need some other work doing for it. Gurkhas: A British Army Regiment made of people (Gurkhas in fact!!) from the Himalaya. A tradition going back to the last century, but they have been downsized in the past 20 yrs or so. One of the more famous regiments. I should put some WWW links on my pages. If they were in the US Army, there'd be at least half a dozen blockbuster films about them... :-) Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be on 04/30/98 09:01:52 AM Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC) Subject: speedo (FFR) Sorry, wrong return adress (that happens when you're using the same computer with a lot of people) My speedo died 2 months ago and I passed MoT last week (in Belgium). BTW, can a speedo be repaired ? He's still counting the number of miles (km's) but the needle won't move. And another BTW: something I want to ask you already a long time ago: what means ex-Gurkha ? Philippe Carchon Ghent, Belgium '80 FFR lightweight. ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LEBLANC_CJ </DD.XMRROUTE=Leblanc#l#u#r#Cj#l#a#r#AM#l#a#r#I22005/@csc-scc.x400.gc.ca> Date: 30 Apr 1998 12:30:24 +0000 Subject: IIA SERVICE MANUALS Yahoo! Yes dear I'll keep it down. Just received my factory manuals in the mail, part 1 and 2. It's like the Haynes book on reeeal good steroids. After pricing the manuals at a few LR parts place in the US and Canada I decided to buy from LR*SH*P. My Visa bill came in at $136 Cdn for both manuals including surface mail delivery charge. One place in Canada wanted a couple of hundred dollars plus taxes and delivery for part 1 only. Going through some an old (1995) parts catalogue from a company in the US I found that they were asking $126. Living in Canada I would of have to add currency exchange (40%) plus duty, plus taxes, plus a handling fee. I was looking at least $200. No kickbacks here folks, just looking for the best deal so I can keep (afford) on scraping knuckles, using four letter words, throwing tools around. Funny this fascination with Land Rovers. Charles LeBlanc CHARLES.LEBLANC@ATL.csc-scc.csc-scc.X400.gc.ca 69 IIA 88 96 Polaris XCR 600 (The winter thing) ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:34:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: speedo (FFR) On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Richard Marsden wrote: > I don't know about repairs. I could do with mine working anyway - whether > it needs it for the MoT or not (2 sources say I don't). I also need some > other work doing for it. There is a company in the US that rebuilds british speedos, so I expect you can find one in the UK. If your needle doesn't move, but your odometer works, then what you have is a physical connection where you should have a magnetic one. A careful (don't lose anything!) cleaning might solve your problem, at least in the short term. Of course, i have had the same problem for going on 8,000 miles, and haven't done anything. Yesterday or the day before, the little post that needle rests on at 0 broke off, and the needle makes 1500 complete revolutions per mile. David/mr sinclair ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LEBLANC_CJ </DD.XMRROUTE=Leblanc#l#u#r#Cj#l#a#r#AM#l#a#r#I22005/@csc-scc.x400.gc.ca> Date: 30 Apr 1998 13:16:42 +0000 Subject: RE: Station Wagons, Safari Models - std items Hello Tim My 88 is a 69, #24435718F. Some call it a transitional vehicle others a bug eye, as the front head lights protrude from the fenders (we are not talking Light Weight here folks). It has rear bench seats, black interior trim, head protection padding in the rear, one piece back door, opens to the side, 15" wheels, spare tire carrier on back door and behind front seats, plain roof with sliding side windows (seems to me I read somewhere that tropical roofs were only available in the early sixties on North American 88s) front locking hubs, door locks. I have, somewhere, an OVLR club newsletter, not sure of the month but I think it's from 1997, that has an original advertisement of this vehicle (transitional) with all it's listed options. I believe they referred to it as a Station Wagon but it did not have the Station Wagon badge. Come to think of it another newsletter has an advertisement for a later IIA with head lights a la Series III with a list of options. There was also an article on late North American IIA in a LROI magazine 94 or 95, I think. If you wish I can snail mail you a photo copy of these advertisements. Hope this helps. Charles LeBlanc 69 IIA 88 CHARLES.LEBLANC@ATL.csc-scc.csc.scc.X400.gc.ca ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Tim Harincar <harincar@Camworks.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:05:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Station Wagon, Safari Models-std items
Bonnet - Mine is dished ('66 88 SW). I don't doubt that it is original
as there is no other paint color, and the Poppy Reds seem to be one of
the lesser represented colors. I also don't think the PO had the
wherewithal to change it out - not his style. His style was buy cheap
parts from AB and have a local garage do the dirty work.
So, it's becoming apparent that there really may be no rule we can
apply. Some things, though; it appears that alpine windows may have only
been added to Station Wagons (those with the 318 serno, at least), and
possibly the split jump seats as well. Also, I guess I haven't heard of
a dished bonnet on a non-SW either. The rest seems like it appeared on
all models as options, with the last hold out being side steps - haven't
been able to determine for sure when/where these were used, except that
mine had them until they rusted off (I had to cut off remnants when I
replaced the frame...).
Seems I got lucky with this one, though - I had no idea what I was
buying when I bought it. It has a lot of the goodies - though I can't
for the life of me figure out why they didn't put f#$%ing windshield
washers in it...
Tim
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From: lndrvr@ldd.net (BRIAN WILLOUGHBY)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:25:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Station Wagon, Safari Models-std items
> I was told that the dished bonnets
> were available only on 109" S.W.s. I don't know that this information
is
> 100% correct for all models, though I was told that this was the way
it was
> for 1958-61 Series IIs. Maybe things changed for the later models....
Brian
1960 Series II 88" S.W.
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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:40:23 -0700
Subject: RE: Station Wagon, Safari Models - std items
> For comparison, My friends 1969 88 suffix G (with birth certificate)
has
> sliding rear windows, a station wagon back door, full interior trim,
> deluxe heater, but no tropical roof or alpine windows, and does _not_
> have the Station Wagon name plate. i.e. just a normal Land Rover.
Paul in Victoria
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]From: "Spencer K. C. Norcross" <snorcross@spectator.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:11:33 -0400 Subject: re: vibrating windows on disco Taylor <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> writes... > Hi everyone, on my '95 Disco, when I leave the windows down about 4 snip, snip, snip (brevity alert!!) > speed, it's the same on all four windows. Is this normal? Is there yes, it is called wind, they are more familiar with this on the COIL SPRUNG LIST as with our vehicles the only vibration we can feel is that of the engine... > something that I can "stick down there" to minimize this vibration? try the ECU, i dont believe it is good for anything else, if that fails try a crowbar or big piece of rebar. rgds, spenny Arlington, VA 1969 SWB, The Wayback Machine 1965 Ex-MOD LWB, Kimayo <- Just add bolts :-0 Land Rover - 4WD of choice for the Information Superhighway Q. Why do they call it a kilt? A. Because a lot of people got kilt when they called it a skirt. ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Disco fording depth >Hi everyone, in about 2 weeks, I'm going to take my Disco for its first >off-road adventure, should I get skid plates first? Also, does anyone >know of a safe fording depth, because I bought it used and it doesn't >have a booklet, thanks! >Mohammed Taheri THe fording depth of a Disco can be affeced by many things. The biggest factor in determining fording depth is the height of the driver. This is a factor because of the "height of air intake " on the driver, which some would refer to as "nostrel height". A taller person will have a very distinct advantage in deep water situations for obvious reasons. Taking this in to account, even if you are a dwarf named Hank, you can sit on a few phone books and get those little nostrels well up into the air and keep on truckin'.. Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:24:20 -0400 Subject: Re: muddy oval society FYI I can assure you that there is no great pleasure in entering this "EXCLUSIVE" area. Basically you are only missing advertising for THE LODGE!!!! It's all the same stuff that LRNA mailed out in the "The Lodge" packet . No big deal. Your not missing much! Oh BTW, I rec'd my rejection letter from LRNA apologizing for not selecting me for the Lodge give away, but reminding me that there would be other "EXCITING" offers coming soon , and that their dealer network was going to be offering more exclusive adventures for their customers?? (Whatever that means) Cheers, Chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:37:19 -0700 Subject: RE: IIA SERVICE MANUALS - Optional Equipment Catalogue If you really want to wet your pants, you should order the optional parts catalogue as well. It's only about 20 quid. It's chock full of bizarre Land Rover optional parts (probably most NLA) Paul Quin Victoria, BC Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "richard a. nicotra" <nicotra@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:20:14 -0400 Subject: disco fording depth, vibrating windows on a disco, 110v lights I was keeping quiet in the hopes that Dave Bobeck would have convinced Mohammed that he is on the wrong list, but . . . Mohammed, please subscribe to the coil sprung digest. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:08:43 EDT Subject: Re: Station Wagon, f#$%ing windshield washers In a message dated 4/30/98 10:09:17 AM, you wrote: >Seems I got lucky with this one, though - I had no idea what I was >buying when I bought it. It has a lot of the goodies - though I can't >for the life of me figure out why they didn't put f#$%ing windshield >washers in it... Maybe because they figured the wipers were for when it was raining... lazy buggers. At least they didn't give you washers that got pressure from the spare tire, like VW's of that era (although, with a bonnet mounted spare, it could easily have happened). --pat. ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:41:36 -0700 Subject: Re: disco fording depth, vibrating windows on a disco, 110v lights Maybe he is thinking of trading up!? Go easy on the non-leafs, they are not a spy! They are our comrades off road!! Warning, my windows (D 90) rattle - I can just hear them over everything else! :-0 Take you disco wading as soon as you can - I pulled one out in Canada and his only comment was 'the dealer said this has door seals - the door seals leak' as they opened the door with wet cardboard protecting the carpet. You will figure out the depth you can go through - I usually say that if I would walk across with out getting my **** wet (32 inch inseam, 34 ground to barbwire clearance) then I would drive across! That is to the top of my tires. Better to walk than swim - there was the time we were hauling firewood and opened to rear to let it float out........... Oh, and I would not go to Home Depot for off road lights!!!! Advice, go off road a bit and see if you like it before you add skid plates, lights, snorkels, wings, antenna and the like. What the world does not need is another off road street cruiser. - Get a good jack. Cheers David Wahoo Adventures - Stay at Home Father 1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD" Ural Motorcycle - S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:44:10 -0700 Subject: windshield washers JC Whitney has an easy to install, inexpensive aftermarket kit - non original of course! David ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:30:55 -0700 Subject: RE: Station Wagon, Safari Models-std items Sorry to drag this out again, but I remember reading an old Land Rover book that said that a Station Wagon model was one that seats 7 (88) or 11?(109). The definition was used for British tax laws that classified station wagons as buses and thusly much cheaper, tax wise, to put on the road. So, I think that it may be the number of factory installed seats that determines whether you have a station wagon or not... Can any Brits confirm this? Paul Quin ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 98 13:01:03 EDT Subject: CB Master bleeding Re: CB master bleeding, it was written: *** >Just bleed the CB on the bench, plug the ports, install and hook up. This >way you can bleed the doggone thing flat... Yeah that works but it sure is a time consuming operation. The only alternative seems to be raising the vehicle so high that it becomes a downright dangerous operation. But I've been thinking about Marin's smart idea of putting in an a/c type access hatch. At least one could save a huge amount of time not having to remove the wing. But I'm really leery about going out to the airport in hunt of some dzus fastners because I just know I'll cave in again and blow a few hundred dollars on some flight time. It's a damned drug that flying thing. *** Installing a bench bled CB master is a bitch to do without pumping the pedal a tiny bit, thus spewing fluids all over (I don't care HOW tight the caps are) and subsequently sucking air back in. I'm not saying it CAN'T be done, it just ain't easy... And NO, you do NOT have to pull the wing to install the pedal ass'y, although this would make getting a bench bled master back in air free alot easier. (Hell, I've even managed to install a CLUTCH pedal ass'y with the wing in place, but the brake pedal ass'y was out, too, and it tested my patience.) YOU CAN, however, bleed ALL the air out of a CB master (including that last little bit that sits up top) WITHOUT jacking your front end six feet up in the air OR bench bleeding the master cylinder. Simply remove the six bolts that hold the pedal ass'y to the bulkhead, remove all the screws that hold the plate attaching the reservoir to the pedal box (this allows you to move the pedal box ass'y around a little without stressing the lines from the reservoir to both master cylinders), and removing the line running out of the master cylinder. Pivot the pedal box ass'y such that the front lower side comes up and around the steering column-violla, it's level. Pump yer pedal *just a tad* and attach that outgoing line while it's still slightly depressed (or plug the hole and release the pedal to allow the master to suck fluid the way it should). Bleed the entire system the way you normally would (except without sucking any air in this time...): LF,RF,RR,LR. Works great, rd/nige ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:29:47 -0600 Subject: Re: CB Master bleeding At 01:01 PM 30/04/98 EDT, Russell G. Dushin, wrote >back in. I'm not saying it CAN'T be done, it just ain't easy... You're so right, which is why I raised the issue. Pivot the pedal box ass'y such that the front lower side >comes up and around the steering column-violla, it's level. I like this. If (when) I have to do this again I'll try your method. Anything is better than dismantling half the truck just to get one tiny blob of air. How did you happen to come by it? Rick Grant 1959, SII "VORIZO" rgrant@cadvision.com www.cadvision.com/rgrant Cobra Media Communications. Calgary, Canada Aboriginal and International Relief Issues ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Tim Harincar <harincar@Camworks.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:38:43 -0500 Subject: RE: Station Wagons Hmm, ok - this is tricky. The problem is the 244 serno was used on SWs until March '65, then it was switched to 318 (why?). It's possible that your 66 model was actually manufactured before this date, hence the 244 number. Maybe someone along the line registered the date wrong, or it was, in fact, sold as a 66 model (fundamentally there was no real difference between the model years). My '66 was produced on July 15, 1965, and was number 441. Now, if yours was a '67, then it'd be a real mess. It also is would be very interesting to know if yours was built *after* 3/65. If so, then what was LRs reason for using the 318 number? Since yours seems to match mine pretty much exactly, what made some 318s and others 244s? In other words, we still don't know what was what and why :-) Tim --- tim harincar harincar@camworks.com Camworks, St. Paul, MN http://www.camworks.com Internet Solutions that Power Business ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:37:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Station Wagons On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Tim Harincar wrote: > Hmm, ok - this is tricky. The problem is the 244 serno was used on SWs > until March '65, then it was switched to 318 (why?). It's possible that Were things other than Station Wagons made with 244 numbers following 3/65? My IIA is 244xxxxxB, and is titled as a 66. It however, started life as a basic, zero options, softtop, and not a station wagon, safari or otherwise. It was said to have come with rear benches though. David/Mr. Sinclair ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:40:29 -0700 Subject: Re: IIA SERVICE MANUALS LEBLANC_CJ wrote: > My Visa bill came in at $136 Cdn for both manuals including surface mail > delivery charge.. My Visa's bin getting a s**t kicking with parts from the UK too. Parts are cheap enough, but the shipping and customs take their toll. Where 'bouts you in Canada? Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:57:10 -0700 Subject: Re: vibrating windows on disco Spencer K. C. Norcross wrote: > try the ECU, i dont believe it is good for anything else, if that fails > try a crowbar or big piece of rebar.. Now now Spenny, take your time. Think about it. Wouldn't grab hooks fit better in there? Dual purpose in mind eh? Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:19:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Disco fording depth Russ Wilson wrote: > THe fording depth of a Disco can be affeced by many things. The biggest > factor in determining fording depth is the height of the driver. This is a > factor because of the "height of air intake " on the driver, which some > would refer to as "nostrel height". A taller person will have a very > distinct advantage in deep water situations for obvious reasons. Taking > this in to account, even if you are a dwarf named Hank, you can sit on a > few phone books and get those little nostrels well up into the air and keep [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)] > Fort Pitt Land Rover Group > Pittsburgh, Pa. Lol, that's mighty funny, in that case, my air intake is at about 5'8". Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:24:02 -0400 Subject: Re: disco fording depth, vibrating windows on a disco, 110v lights richard a. nicotra wrote: > I was keeping quiet in the hopes that Dave Bobeck would have convinced > Mohammed that he is on the wrong list, but . . . > Mohammed, please subscribe to the coil sprung digest. I already did, sorry, being new here, I always send my emails to both lists, hoping to get double the answers. Sorry about the annoyance! Mohammed Taheri '95 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: asfco <asfco@banet.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:29:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Rovers for sale Bren Workman wrote: > 1995 D-90. 29,000 miles, minor body work damage, runs/drives, (looks > like left fender toast, factory bull bar toast, right fender looks good, > bonnet looks good, left door?) But...$13,500! Numero Uno Auto Sales, > Bronx, New York, (718)589-0469. >FYI: >The above mentioned D-90 was sold this am they have another one which just came in from out west red 94 D-90 which was in a rollover..no top, some other damage to front wing $ 10,000 1-800-CRASH CARS Rgds Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Clark, Patrick D." <Clark_PD@pillsburylaw.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:39:53 -0700 Subject: Overdrive...worth the cost? I have a newly acquired '65 88" SIIA SW -- looks like hell and runs like a top (knock on aluminum). As it is my daily driver, and I have occasion to drive on the freeway, I was contemplating an overdrive addition, but was curious to see if any one agrees that the cost is justified (I've got plenty of other parts that could use the attention). As I understand it-- the overdrive is useful only in 3rd or 4th (2H), but that the revs are reduced dramatically. Any Idea what kind of freeway speed I might expect? I'm running a 2.25 Petrol, with header and side draft Webber. ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Chris Swart <swartc@iafrica.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:32:12 +0200 Subject: Re: vibrating windows on disco Mohammed Taheri wrote: >Hi everyone, on my '95 Disco, when I leave the windows down about 4 >inches (101.6 mm), there is a very noticeable vibration of the glass.. Try 101.00 mm. Or try the CSO List for an answer. Happy 50th to Land Rover & just keep rovering on :-) Chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:12:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Disco fording depth
First, subscribe to:
The Rangie, Disco and Defender Owner mailing list Daily Digest
The WWW pages for the list (including subscribe/unsubscribe forms) start at:
http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/lro-info.html
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Send submissions to the list to: rro@Land-Rover.Team.Net
Before you get flamed to eternity.
Second, if it's going to be more than just dirt roads, remove (where
applicable)
factory brush guard
running boards
rear hydraulic step
rear bumper end caps
front spoiler
front bumper end caps
any other OEM stuff that hangs down below the level of the bumpers, except
the receiver hitch--which makes a lot of noise but is pretty indestructable.
and be prepared for serious paint scratches and rear lower quarter panel
damage.
as they say: "Been there, done that."
Third, make sure your tires are at least the stock Michelins w/plenty
o'tread or something more agressive
On wading: I never did get my yard stick out to measure depth, but if you
e-mail Dave "Pit Bull on Thorazine"Bobeck directly, he can tell you how
deep the water was that I drove through.
Good Luck
>From: Mohammed Taheri <mrbeans@bellsouth.net>
>Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:42:35 -0400
>Subject: Disco fording depth
>Hi everyone, in about 2 weeks, I'm going to take my Disco for its first
>off-road adventure, should I get skid plates first? Also, does anyone
>know of a safe fording depth, because I bought it used and it doesn't
>have a booklet, thanks!
David Russell
1997 Discovey SD 5-speed
90% of the pieces needed for a 1969 SIIA "Bugeye" 88" SW Petrol
1965+/- SIIA 109" P/U Diesel, "Loo" (Thanks DaveB)
1977 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (sort of)
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]From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:11:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Overdrive...worth the cost? On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Clark, Patrick D. wrote: > I have a newly acquired '65 88" SIIA SW -- looks like hell and runs like a top (knock on aluminum). As it is my daily driver, and I have occasion to drive on the freeway, I was contemplating an overdrive addition, but was curious to see if any one agrees that the cost is > justified (I've got plenty of other parts that could use the attention). Yes. I have an 88 IIA that I drive a lot- better than 20K miles in 9 months- and often for long trips on the highways. I cannot imagine driving 2500 highway miles without one. Even if you don't go faster, the revs come down a lot and the noise level drops pretty dramatically. > justified (I've got plenty of other parts that could use the attention). As I understand it-- the overdrive is useful only in 3rd or 4th (2H), but that the revs are reduced dramatically. Any Idea what kind of freeway speed I might expect? I'm running a 2.25 Petrol, with header > and side draft Webber. The Fairy/Superwinch seem to have a lubrication problem. Part of the problem is that the oil resovior is small and provides insufficent cooling. The efects of this can be minimized by making sure that the resevoir is full, and changing the oil a lot. I think that another part of the lubrication problem is that as the thing is dependent on splash lubrication, there is insufficent splashing at low speeds. I have never had one apart to get a real picture of what is happening though, so this part is conjecture. David ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@rhi.hi.is> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:59:10 +0000 Subject: Starting in cold weather! Hi! I always thought that cars and LRs were more easy to start in hot weather than cold - My 2.25 petrol LR is the other way around - It is rather difficult to start it when hot, I have to turn it alot and when comes to life it coughes up a lot of smoke! - but it is ever a problem when cold. - OK it takes a few turnes to be smooth running - but it is running!! WHY? Olafur Agust - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - olafura@hi.is http://www.hi.is/~olafura "Don't take life so seriously ... it's not permanent." ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:28:44 EDT Subject: aaargh! Oh well. Ho hum. <sad look> I crashed (wasn't invited) the dealer's party but i didn't win the IIa that LRNA raffled off. I just got a neat little pin and some 1948-1998 plaques that look like 1/2 scale metal repros of the "four wheel drive station wagon" plaque, except it says 1948-1998 below the oval. Also, the dealership hired a "valet service" that had the entire front of the dealership, and when I drove up, I just said I was popping in to the parts counter, so they gave me a slot. Then they came in looking for me, to move my "land crui*er"! The service manager gave them a stern look, not quite like a terrier, but they backed off. --pat. 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:21:31 EDT Subject: LRNA 50th celebration Went to Tischer Land Rover for their reception . The dealer gave away 1 trip to the Lodge to a couple from Bowie, MD. Then we were told that LRNA had picked our dealer as one of the two to give the vintage Rover away , low and behold they picked my name. Absolutely couldn`t believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let you know when it arrives. :^) RGDS, Rick `63 SIIa 88'' `94 D-90 `96 Disco Vintage Rover?????? `98 BMW Z-3 ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: nlamon1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:31:35 -0500 Subject: "Rolling Chassis" vs. "Parts Car" Would a fully operational vehicle MINUS its body be the definition of a "Rolling Chassis?" Would a bodyless vehicle with a shot frame, transmission, swivel balls, springs .....etc. be a "Rolling Chassis," a "Parts Car," or a "Pile of Junk?" .....curious to learn how my definition/s compare to others. Regards, Neil Lamont ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:12:40 -0700 Subject: Re: LRNA 50th celebration RykRover wrote: > Absolutely couldn`t believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent. Congratulations. BTW... glad to see some other sorry sod won't have to learn how to double clutch and it'll be going to an understanding home. :) cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:19:26 -0600 Subject: Re: LRNA 50th celebration At 10:21 PM 30/04/98 EDT, RykRover, wrote >picked our dealer as one of the two to give the vintage Rover away , low and >behold they picked my name. Absolutely couldn`t believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well congratulations! I'm glad it didn't go to somebody whose knowledge of LR ownership extended only as far as being able to turn the key. Good to know it's going to somebody who can appreciate it. Now I wonder, is the dealer going to include some servicing with the vehicle and if so, do they have a clue? Again, congratulations. Rick Grant 1959, SII "VORIZO" rgrant@cadvision.com www.cadvision.com/rgrant Cobra Media Communications. Calgary, Canada Aboriginal and International Relief Issues ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 02:51:50 -0400 Subject: Re: LRNA 50th celebration YEA!!! Way to Go!!! Glad to see a deserving Rover Enthusiast get it! Feels Great, Doesn't it? Let us know when it sinks in to the point where you really believe it. It might not happen till you hit your first trail. GOOD LUCK WITH HER! Drew Squires (109 - Still Looking) ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Steve Mace <steve@solwise.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:08:14 +0000 Subject: Re: Starting in cold weather! > Hi! > I always thought that cars and LRs were more easy to start in hot > weather than cold - My 2.25 petrol LR is the other way around - It > is rather difficult to start it when hot, I have to turn it alot and > when comes to life it coughes up a lot of smoke! - but it is ever a > problem when cold. - OK it takes a few turnes to be smooth running > - but it is running!! [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)] > WHY? > Olafur Agust My SIII used to do this when I had a Webber carb on. Sometimes it got so bad I would have to walk away and leave it a few mins with the bonnet open. I figured it was probably due to fuel vapourisation in the carb. Infact when it was really hot it would sometimes cut out when at idle! Fitted the correct Zenith carb and all is well.... ------------------------------------- Name: Dr Steve Mace E-mail: steve@solwise.demon.co.uk www: http://www.demon.co.uk/solwise/ Tel: +44 1482 473899 Fax: +44 1482 472245 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980501 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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