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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:14:31 -0400
Subject: Army Units

Hi List,
I recently obtained a 73 Lightweight in England. The army history is 
as follows:
11/7/73		CVD Hilton
18/7/73		A D P C O N
7/8/73		118 Army RECCE Coy R.E.M.E
28/10/76	HQ 19 Air PEB LBDE & Signal Squadron
1/1/77		1 Squadron RCT W/Shop R.E.M.E
30/1/79		V.D. Hilton
10/4/80		23 SAS (V)
8/9/80		31005 DD Ruddington
Can anybody out there shed any light on these army units?
Thanks
Peter Goundry
67 GS 109" IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97D90SW

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:01:31 -0300
Subject: LR tool Kit

That funny looking adjustable wrench is known as a" King Dick". No rude
comments please!!!!! These were also available in hardware stores in
England in the 50s and 60s and were also included in the tool kit of
Fordson tractors.
   John and Muddy

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From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:46:45 -0700
Subject: oil

trevor wrote:

From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:55:00 -0400
Subject: Transmission Oils

I've just had a recommendation from an oil expert for Chevron Delo Gear Oil
apparently this is a conventional oil with some special additives that
result in reduced friction, less heat etc. Maybe a good fluid for those
overworked overdives. Anyone out there have experience of this oil.

I add that when my 2.6 was rebuilt, it was filledwith Delo 400 in 30 wt.
Supposed to be a very good oil, with extra qualifciations for diesel
engines.  I have been recommended to use it for 5000 miles then switch to
syntho.

cheers,

John F Hess   jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's),
1960 swb roadster "Slug" (Alex's) Slug needs everything, donations accepted

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From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:19:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Translations

DONOHUE PE wrote:

> Sounds like the literature from some Japanese eletronics maker, or
> instructions for German cars back in the early sixties..

Actually sounds like the directions to build a BBQ in the modern days ;-)

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:48:14 -0600
Subject: Must Sell Now: 1966 IIA 109 Mil HT

Fort Collins, CO, USA

~6k miles on RN trans w/ OD, HC head, front axle rebuild (new swivel
balls, bearings...), new Zenith carb w/ selection of jets, springs,
alternator, brakes (master cyl, wheel cyl, lines, shoes, drums), clutch
(new master and slave), tires, seats, front prop shaft, front splash
panels, one new fuel tank (other is original), Def rear fog and backup
lamps, front exhaust pipe, anti-burst door latches, passenger side-step,
seatbelt pickups for full shoulder retractables.

Serious inquiries to wterry@netpubsintl.com. Will entertain all
reasonable offers. Regret losing La Rana (the frog), but finances force
sale.

Peace, William
 
_______W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y_______
  How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things?
  (David Brin)

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tmills@pasiphae.penlib.du.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:39:22 -0700
Subject: Re: Army Units

Peter Goundry asked for info on a bunch of British Army units in his 
Lightweight's history.

You can find links to all the units and explanations on their role, 
etc., from my website:
http://www.du.edu/~tomills/military/uk/bargxref.htm
I particularly recommend links to pages at:
http://www.andrewjd.demon.co.uk/army/

> 118  Army RECCE Coy R.E.M.E 
118 Army Recce Coy = 118 Army Reconnaissance Company
REME = Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers
REME does all vehicle maintenance and repair, and has some personnel 
attached to all combat units.

> HQ 19 Air PEB LBDE & Signal Squadron
Headquarters and  Signal Squadron of the 19th Airportable Brigade 
(now called 19 Mechanised Brigade).  See Royal Corps of Signals for 
explanations of role.

> 1 Squadron RCT W/Shop R.E.M.E
1st Squadron, Royal Corps of Transport Workshop REME
A REME unit in the RCT.  REME units are called "workshops".  The
Royal Corps of Transport has now been merged with other support
corps into the Royal Logistic Corps, responsible for all supply and
transport functions.

>23 SAS (V) 
23rd Special Air Service Regiment (Volunteers).
This is probably the most "romantic" part of your Land Rover's 
history.  These are the behind-the-lines, "Pink Panther", 
counter-terrorism guys.  The 23rd Volunteers are the Territorial Army 
or part-time reserve component of the SAS.

T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                 University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills     Denver   Colorado 80210  USA

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From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:34:14 -0600
Subject: PARTS FOR SALE

- Civ fuel tank, filler neck and body fitting, cap, locking hasp, filler
hose, $120/obo

- 2.25l head rebuild parts: intake valve guides, exhaust valve guides,
valve seats, head gasket set, oil seal and gaskets/front timing cover,
$100/obo

- used seat backs from IIA, one with a small tear in side, other with
breaks in seams between center parts and sides, foam good, make offer.

- IIA splash guards, used, $10/each

- non-Landy Isuzu cassette/stereo and 4 speakers, electronic, from
Special Equipment Trooper, $40.

wterry@netpubsintl.com

_______W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y_______
  How do we acquire wisdom along with all these shiny things?
  (David Brin)

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:09:54 -0700
Subject: Re: What's in an original LR tool kit?

From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 17:22:45 EDT
Subject: Re: What's in an original LR tool kit?

>I was cleaning up some of the bits around the Roverhood and found
tucked into
a rotting seatbox tool/battery box a set of rusty tools in a heavy
canvas like
pouch.  I am curious if this is an original tool kit.  It contains
pliers, an odd
looking adjustable wrench like tool  (almost like calipers) and an
assortment
of open box wrenches which are rather rusty but do say "Made in England"
on
the handle.

This sounds like the tool kit that came with my new Series III in 1973.
In addition to the open-ended wrenches, pliers, and adjustable wrench,
there was a small two-piece feeler gauge for setting spark plug and
point gaps, a screwdriver with a black, wooden handle. a sparkplug
socket with a short bar that went through a hole the socket barrel to
form a handle, and a small grease gun.  If you have one of these
toolkits, or at least the tools that were in it, keep them.  Some of
those wrenches, despite the crude forgings and finish, fit fastners on
the vehicle that standard tools won't fit.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:55:50 -0700
Subject: Re: What's in an original LR tool kit?

From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:57:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: What's in an original LR tool kit?

The tool list posted here was excellent.  In 1973, my new Series III
came with just about everything on the list.  The only thing I don't
recall ever seeing was a tire pressure gauge.  I still have the tire
pump and it still works, although it is rather awkward to use with its
little wire "feet" and skinny pump handle.  The screw jack uses a long
red shaft that is stowed in spring clips behind the rear seat on the
left side alongside the starting jack, also painted red.  One end of the
jack  shaft is squared off to fit the jack and the other end is formed
into a round ring into which you slip a tapered wooden handle.  My
Series III was delivered with the spare tire mounted on the rear of the
interior bulkhead behind the middle seat.  However, the vehicle also had
the tire mount on the hood (bonnet) as well as the bracketing and bolts
necessary to mount the tire on the rear door.  My vehicle came with what
I consider the standard hood; the leading edge is flat as opposed to the
rolled-edge "deluxe" hood, which has a recess in the center to
accommodate the spare tire.  I've never liked the look of the
rolled-edge hood and I've always been glad my vehicle came with the
older style.   The only tool that did not function as advertised was the
little grease gun.  One end of the push-action gun has the grease
fitting on it while the other end is fitted with a plastic cap to hold
the grease in the gun.  When pressure was applied, the plastic cap on my
gun stripped its threads in short order.

The tool kit that came with my Series III is actually much more complete
and useful than the original kit that came with my 1991 Range Rover.  I
suppose this is because Rover figures (probably correctly) that most
Range Rover owners wouldn't be caught dead doing any work on their
vehicles, so it would probably be a waste of money to supply much other
than a jack and a lug wrench.  I've since added a fair number of tools
to the Range Rover's kit, but its original contents were pretty minimal.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: Peter Thoren <Peter.Thoren@genetik.uu.se>
Date: 	Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:03:03 +0200
Subject: my Land Rover just died

Dear List,

I have managed to get myself in trouble again... When driving back from
town today the engine just stalled and died immediately. When looking under
the bonnet I realized that the wireing on the solenoid positive connector
was loose and my theory is that the plus cable comming from the battery
came into contact with the wire engaging the solenoid and by doing this, of
course activated the starter engine. So my question is: What can I expect
when starting to fix this. Is it likely that the drive assembly in the
starter engine or the starter ring gear has survived this treatment? Which
one of them is most likely to brake? Hopefully I can just fasten all cables
and start the engine again...

/Peter

Peter Thoren
Work:  Department of Genetics
       Uppsala University
       Box 7003; S-750 07 Uppsala
       Phone: +46 18 67 12 69
       Fax:   +46 18 67 27 05
       e-mail peter.thoren@genetik.uu.se

Home:  Långmyrtorp
       740 20 Vänge
       Phone/fax: +46 18 39 20 56
       e-mail: same as above

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:04:59 -0400
Subject: Re: my Land Rover just died

Just refasten the cable and see what happened - hopefully nothing.

Sounds like you lost 12 volts to the coil and that killed it off.

                    ajr

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From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:19:27 -0400
Subject: Spring Cleaning Blow out!

Dear all,
        Yes this is advertising, but this stuff is going to go cheap, and
might help somebody out so I'm going to post it.
        ECR is going to have its second spring cleaning blow out in a few
weeks. Items available will be used items, some good, some bad, a lot of
body parts, some 2.25 petrol engines, used rims, maybe even a frame or 2.
Stuff like rear doors $25, side doors $20 bucks, Hella Rally lights $50,
even a new Defender 110 rear body $500. All kinds of stuff, our winter's
collection of "the good, the bad, and the ugly". Rules are... if you want
it come and get it on Saturday. It will be a one day sale on Saturday
April, 25th, 1998. Like a yard sale, but with Rover parts. ;-)
        Thanks all, hope some of this stuff can go to good use.

From: EAST COAST ROVER CO.
*Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME (USA) 04864
207.594.8086 phone  207.594.8120 fax
http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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From: Scott Hulett <scotth@quicklink.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:43:51 -0500
Subject: 

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:28:52 EDT
Subject: Re:  Army Units

In a message dated 4/10/98 8:18:25 AM, you wrote:

>30/1/79		V.D. Hilton

I have some Navy Buddies who have "Frequent Guest" cards at this ho-tel. What
your lightweight was doing there is anyone's guess ;-)

pat
93  110

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:19:50 -0300
Subject: Re: my Land Rover just died

Peter Thoren wrote:
> Dear List,
> I have managed to get myself in trouble again... When driving back from
> town today the engine just stalled and died immediately. When looking under
> the bonnet I realized that the wireing on the solenoid positive connector
> was loose and my theory is that the plus cable comming from the battery
> came into contact with the wire engaging the solenoid and by doing this, of
> course activated the starter engine. So my question is: What can I expect
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
> and start the engine again...
> /Peter

 It does not sound good if the starter engaged while the engine was
running, there will be quite a bit of damage. However if you didn't
hear a large expensive noise there is a good chance that the engine
stopped because it lost electrical power. Connect the wires and try it
before you take things apart.
  The English language is playing it's tricks on you again. If powered
by electricity then it is called a motor not an engine.
   Best of luck   John and Muddy

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:53:10 EDT
Subject: Re: my Land Rover just died

In a message dated 4/10/98 7:24:53 PM, you wrote:

> It does not sound good if the starter engaged while the engine was
>running, there will be quite a bit of damage. However if you didn't
>hear a large expensive noise there is a good chance that the engine
>stopped because it lost electrical power. Connect the wires and try it
>before you take things apart.

I had a VW KarmannGhia that I got back from a valet parking attendant and it
was making a weird screeching and howling noise. I then looked down at the key
and it was all the way over in the "start" position. I forgot to tell him that
the spring return didn't work, and they refused to let me park the car or go
get it. Anyway, I drove home with the starter engaged. That evening, I pulled
the starter, examined the worn drive gear and toasted motor and put  a new one
in. 

The flywheel teeth were fine, it was just the starter motor that suffered, so
you too may be in luck. If it only engaged briefly, even the starter may be
ok. I would look at the drive gear just to make sure the teeth are all where
they are supposed to be...

>  The English language is playing it's tricks on you again. If powered
>by electricity then it is called a motor not an engine.

I can picture it in my head:

Dear Honda Motorcycle Company, you are gravely mistaken about your  corporate
name and product. It should be Honda Enginecycle Company that builds
"enginecycles". Your friends, John & Muddy!

hahaha.

pat

ps: LRW has an annoying (to me, at least) habit of calling cars "motors" as
in: "So equipped, these venerable motors seemed to be able to almost walk on
water, with similarly equipped Series IIs nearly as adept." (Talking about
Land Rovers with special tyres.) Another minor quibble, I know, but they all
keep me from taking them seriously.

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