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1 SPYDERS [SPYDERS@aol.com23Re: Re:_InvertedÊ_Mercruiser's
2 Peter Thoren [Peter.Thor31Cure wanted for "wining" sound
3 trowe@cdr.wisc.edu 8Re: GREAT ADVICE
4 "Ian Boddison" [bod.glas23Re: Fairey vs. Toro
5 "Ian Boddison" [bod.glas12Re: GREAT ADVICE
6 "Ian Boddison" [bod.glas21Re: A drum full of snails
7 "C. Marin Faure" [faurec23Protecting brake reservoirs.
8 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema41part# help
9 "Bill Fishel" [bfishel@c40Steering relay
10 Jarvis 64 [Jarvis64@aol.26BRAKE EMERGENCY
11 Eye on WX [EyeonWX@aol.c14Wear your seat belt...
12 Jarvis 64 [Jarvis64@aol.12NEVERMIND BRAKES
13 "Peter & Julie Rosvall" 15Koenig Winch Info....


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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:17:17 EST
Subject: Re:  Re:_InvertedÊ_Mercruiser's

In a message dated 3/28/98 1:36:14 AM, you wrote:

>reversed direction of rotation.  This counteracts the torque effects of the
>propellors.  You can buy marine engines that rotate in either direction,
>all you have to do is ask.  It has nothing to do with those from oz always
>being upside down.

I thought those engines whose cranks rotated opposite were 2-strokes(usually
smaller outboard engines), while the 4-strokers did the couter-rotation at the
final drive, so that parts iterchangeability on the engine side would be kept
simple, and only the gearbox/final drive maker would have to make a separate
gear... if anyone really wants to put a opposite rotating engine into a land-
rover, I guess they could look for a convair engine... 2 forward speeds and 8
in reverse (sounds like that italian tank joke...)

pat
93  110

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From: Peter Thoren <Peter.Thoren@genetik.uu.se>
Date: 	Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:21:30 +0100
Subject: Cure wanted for "wining" sound

Dear list,

My S3 diesel makes a loud wining noice when I put in the fourth gear. This
sound increases with speed and is really annoing since it goes straight
into your head and almost renders you a headache. Is this normal? Have
anyone tried any additives or "supertreatments" that might help? I dont
really know the origin of this noice but I assume it might be from the
gearbox. The car has got a high ratio transfer box and no overdrive. Gear
box is renewed recently. Are there people out there who have tried to
soundproof your LR´s ? How did it work out and how did you do it?

/Peter 

Peter Thoren
Work:  Department of Genetics
       Uppsala University
       Box 7003; S-750 07 Uppsala
       Phone: +46 18 67 12 69
       Fax:   +46 18 67 27 05
       e-mail peter.thoren@genetik.uu.se

Home:  Långmyrtorp
       740 20 Vänge
       Phone/fax: +46 18 39 20 56
       e-mail: same as above

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From: trowe@cdr.wisc.edu
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:33:33 -0600
Subject: Re: GREAT ADVICE

Have you tried pulling off the shift keys and using a pair of needle nose
pliers to pull up the little plunger?

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From: "Ian Boddison" <bod.glass@easynet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:58:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Fairey vs. Toro

>This is indeed an interesting one, how exactly do you move two gear levers
>simultaneously whilst keeping one hand on the steering wheel !?!

In third with o/d in, the top of the o/d lever is about 3 inches from the
main gearlever.  Albeit the o/d lever is quite abit shorter.  With the left
hand spread slightly the first finger goes around the main gearlever and
either the little finger or the thumb in front of the o/d lever. Moving the
hand backwards changes gear on the two boxes in one go.  It is easier to do
than to describe.

Remember that with main box in top and the o/d in, the two levers are
virtually touching each other.

I bet everything is as clear as the mud under your wheels.

Cheers,
Bod.

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From: "Ian Boddison" <bod.glass@easynet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:16:00 -0000
Subject: Re: GREAT ADVICE

>Maybe your computer has been setup for use with the hard of
hearing/reading?

Is that what microsoft means by Accessibility Options'?

Anon.

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From: "Ian Boddison" <bod.glass@easynet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:10:09 -0000
Subject: Re: A drum full of snails

>Incidently, because I have never seen it mentioned here, and it confused
>me, the snails are handed.  Turning them forward tightens the shoes.  This
>is clockwise on the left hand side, but anti-clockwise on the right.  I
>spent a bit of time trying to figure this out, having to take the drum
>off, the first time I worked on the brakes.

That should be the case but it is not unknown for them to fitted in the
converse manner to that intended by Rover.   On Clifford they are fitted in
such a way that if your adjusting spanner points away from the centre of the
wheel then up adjusts them up!    As that is the way they were, I fitted the
snails the same way round when I replaced them on one wheel.  It kind of
made sense!

Cheers,
Bod.

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From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:03:35 -0800
Subject: Protecting brake reservoirs.

A couple of people wrote that they assumed the breakdown of their plastic
brake reservoirs over time was due to ultraviolet light.  This may very
well play a role in the reservoir's ultimate demise.  However, the only
part of my original reservoir that deteriorated badly was the front left
corner where the cold air coming through the gap between the hood and
fender hit it.  The rest of the left side of the reservoir, which is
exposed to the light just as much as the front corner, was in good
condition.  But whether the culprit is thermal shock, ultraviolet light, or
both, putting a cover of insulation over the reservoir eliminates both
problems.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
   Seattle, WA

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 98 14:00:31 -0800
Subject: part# help

I'm assembling a page for my web site that will contain alternative part 
numbers for components that you could easily source locally.

So far I have tables for oil seals, bearings, paint codes, 'U' joints, 
oil filters, spark plugs and carburators.  I would like your help in 
filling in some of the information.

If you know the proper part number for any of these please get back to me.

-'U' joint, Series III, measures 3-7/32" cap to cap

- Oil filter, 2.0L Series I

- Oil filter, Series II, early IIA, 7.5" long

- Oil filter, 2.6L six cylinder

- Oil filter, 2.5L spin on type

- Spark plug, series I

- Spark plug, 2.5L

- If someone could sort out the different bases for a Rochester for me I 
would appriciate it.

Thanks for your help!

TeriAnn Wakeman              I subscribe to several high volume mail
Santa Cruz, California       Lists and do not read every posting. 
twakeman@cruzers.com         If you send me direct mail, please start
www.cruzers.com/~twakeman    subject with TW-  so I will know to read it.

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Bill Fishel" <bfishel@cisnet.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:15:55 -0500
Subject: Steering relay

Hi All
Just finished tearing a steering relay out of a rusty old piece of frame 
I found laying out back from a SerIIA.
This is the 2nd time in a month I've disassembled a relay and both of 
them were frozen solid and bone dry. The shafts in both were rusty
and pitted but cleaned up good. Found a product that slides over the old 
section of shaft were the seal rides. Tap it on and it gives the seal a new

surface to ride on. Use a little LocTite or similar stuff to seal/secure it
to
the shaft.

Replacing the bushings and spring isn't hard but there is a lot of tension
on the spring. My manual recommended tying a burlap bag around the end
of the relay when pushing out the shaft. I would highly advise doing so.

Before I rebuilt the relay in the LR when the steering wheel was turned 
(using both hands) the front bulkhead flexed and twisted. After replacing 
the insides and filling with oil the LR steering turns a whole lot easier.

The top plate with the four bolts in it can safely be removed with out the
 spring pushing out because of the tapered bushings and taper on the shaft.
(As long as nothing has been modified by somebody else, although I can't
imagine anyone doing so.) This is probably the easiest way to fill the body

with oil. Lubricating this part made the biggest difference in the
steering.

Morale of the story:
Keep the steering relay lubricated and you wont ruin your shorts getting
the spring out.

Happy Rovering
Bill Fishel

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From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:43:39 EST
Subject: BRAKE EMERGENCY

I HAVE TO DRIVE A FEW HOURS TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND MY BRAKES ARE MESSED UP.  I
DID THE SNAZZY BLEED THING BILL LEACOCK SAID TO AND IT WORKED--DOWN TO TWO
PUMPS FROM THREE.  SOMEHOW WHEN ADJUSTING THE SNAIL CAMS I OVERDID THE "SLIGHT
SCRAPING SOUND" AND ENDED UP HEATING EVERYTHING UP TOO MUCH AND WARPING A
DRUM.  

FORTUNATELY I HAVE TWO FRESHLY-TURNED DRUMS I JUST GOT (USED) LAST WEEKEND AND
HAD TURNED YESTERDAY.  UNFORTUNATELY I COULDNT GET EITHER OF THEM TO FIT
WITHOUT LOTS OF RUBBING--EVEN WITH THE SNAIL CAMS ADJUSTED ALL THE WAY IN.

I HAD SOMEONE PUMP THE BRAKES ONCE THE DRUMS WERE MOSTLY ON IN AN ATTEMPT TO
CENTER THE SHOES IN CASE THEY WERENT CENTERED.  I HAVE ADJUSTED IT A COUPLE
TIMES AND DRIVEN AROUND A BIT--IT STILL RUBS.  I JACK IT UP AND SPIN THE WHEEL
AND IT WILL MAKE A COUPLE ROTATIONS BUT YOU CAN TELL THE BRAKES ARE
DRAGGING--THE OTHER WHEEL SPINS WAY BETTER.

ANY FIXES?

BILL RICE
64 SIIA 

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From: Eye on WX <EyeonWX@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:52:29 EST
Subject: Wear your seat belt...

Just a request to you all...a friend of mine's nephew was out driving in Texas
about a week ago in his '97  D90 when he reached behind him to put a water
bottle back, lost control, rolled the truck twice and was thrown out of the
vehicle. He's now in a coma and not doing well so please say a prayer for him.
And WEAR YOUR SAFETY BELT! I hope this story will teach my Dad to do so.

-Alex Cheek,
97 Disco LSE

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From: Jarvis 64 <Jarvis64@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:03:11 EST
Subject: NEVERMIND BRAKES

THINK I FIXED THE PROBLEM--RE READ THE MESSAGE RE THE SNAILS BEING HANDED AND
THEN WENT BACK OUT THERE.   I THINK ITS OK NOW--STILL DRAGGING A BIT BUT I
THINK THATS JUST BECAUSE I GOT A LITTLE TOO ENERGETIC TIGHTENING THE HUB NUT
THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN I NOTICED THE BEARINGS WERE A BIT WOBBLY

BILL

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From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <rosvall@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:29:54 +0000
Subject: Koenig Winch Info....

For those on the list that have & use Koenig winchs, What size cable 
is most common and how much will fit on the reel? The sales 
information that I have says a 5/16" strand @ approx. 150' ,but I've 
heard of others using 3/8" and 1/2". What are people using?

Thanks,

Peter Rosvall
rosvall@nbnet.nb.ca

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