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From: "Alan Logue" <logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:07:45 +1030

I cant seem to get to the AB home page, have they changed it???
Also does anyone have an E Mail address for AB and Safari Guard?
TAI
Alan

PS Thanks to all those who responded to the SG rocksliders - I now have a
few options to explore.

Al
Logue & Associates
PO Box 689
Morphett Vale
South Australia
Ph +61-8-83228965
Fax +61-8-83875535

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:21:05 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Land Rover helping others(Chicago)

Hi All,
 Well as you should know Chicago was hit by a snow storm yeasterday.  On
the way to work I had the chance to help several people who were
blocking traffic.  I even got to pull my boss's car out of a ditch. 
Cars parked at my work got drifted in & after digging them out some got
high centered so I used my tow strap to drag them out.  
 The people who thought I was nuts for driving an old clunker LR now
have a differant view.  Score 4 cars saved.
 Worse day for many people was huge fun for me helping others.  To Cool.

Regards,
 Rob Davis_Chicago

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From: "drew squires" <drewteri@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:31:16 -0500

Hi:
    I just tried the AB websight.  The server must be down.  I don't know
thier e-mail address but they are a local phone call for me.  Would you like
me to call them & relay a message for you?  Buy the way, are we talking
about Atlantic British in Mechanicville, NY with a web address of
www.roverparts.com?

Drew.
(Still looking - 109)

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:25 +0100
From: Ketil Oftedahl <ketil.oftedahl@datapoint.no>
Subject: Re: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard

drew squires wrote:
> Hi:
>     I just tried the AB websight.  The server must be down.  I don't know
> thier e-mail address but they are a local phone call for me.  Would you like
> me to call them & relay a message for you?  Buy the way, are we talking
> about Atlantic British in Mechanicville, NY with a web address of
> www.roverparts.com?
> Drew.

I've just tried, too. The server seems to be OK.
The e-mail address is mailto:ab@roverparts.com

Ketil

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From: JKwas61947 <JKwas61947@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:21:49 EST
Subject: LR for son

My son and I are restoring a 68 IIa.  He turns 1 year old in 2 weeks.  I hang
him from the rafters in the barn in one of those jumpy-seats and he falls
asleep (at least until I fire up the angle grinder) while I work on the rover.

Working on cars is the best thing you can do with a child.  When I was 14, my
father got me involved in car racing.  Not only did I miss lots of illegal
beer bashes, I developed a love for all things mechanical.  Oh, did I mention
that I'm 29 years old and my father is still my best friend?  Something for
you guys with 14 year olds to consider.

John Kwasnik
68 IIa 88
72 IIa 88 *(free parts)
66 A-H Sprite
78 Chevette (just kidding)

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:37:03 -0800
From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: LR sons

Previously:
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:13:04 -0800
From: Clayton Kirkwood <kirkwood@kirkwood-desk.fm.intel.com>
Subject: Re: An LR for my daughter?

Why is it we dads are doing this for our daughters who give us so much grief
at times? Are there any boys getting this wonderful attention/approach?

Check my sig file.  Slug was $400 and needs alot.  He was purchased and
given to my son with the intention that he and I work on it.  As of yet,
not started, but this summer......

John F Hess   jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's),
1960 swb roadster "Slug" (Alex's) Slug needs everything, donations accepted

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:34 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: More on Land Rover steering

Off-road, your girlfriend may have some trouble with a 109, unless she 
has Rambo arms. Having been in a few situations where the weight of the 
truck is on one side, as in a deep mud hole or rut, you're almost lifting 
the the whole forward end with the front wheels when trying to turn the 
steering wheel. 'Course anybody will have trouble in such a predicament. 
That's why they call it Armstrong Power Steering.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: "Chris Velardi" <tchris@freewwweb.com>
Subject: Sunday Beacon Falls CT exploration
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:32:28 -0500
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Hello everyone, my family has some land in Beacon Falls CT / Bethany CT =
and I am going out to clear some old logging roads and was wondering if =
anyone was interested in going ? It's in the center of the state off of  =
Rt.. 8. Very pretty area up on a mountain . I don't have a winch so I =
really dont want to explore it alone. There are fallen trees and water =
spots with mud and logs that skiders left parallel to make their =
crossing possible but making normal vehicle crossing dangerous, that I'm =
going to cut and move . The area is not excessively difficult but there =
are obstacles to overcome . Anyone interested email me at  =
tchris@freewwweb.com or you can call 203-288-8685 Monday -Friday 8 am - =
7 PM or Sat. 10 am -3 PM
Chris "V"  

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: Dremels 101
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:19 -0800

I find that a dremel with a small wire wheel is a very quick way to
clean those dirty electrical connections & terminals...

Paul Q.
Victoria

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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:01:09 EST
Subject: Re: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard

I don't know if Safari Guard has a website, but I do have a business card here
- somewhere - for them. Unless somebody else here beats me to finding a
number, I'll look for it.

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:03:15 EST
Subject: Re: More on Land Rover steering

i have a friend that finished restoring a ex-NATO 109 last year. EVERYTHING in
the steering, is new, and with the tires that he currently has on it, a female
can turn the wheels from lock to lock, with a few fingers!

Maybe I'll do the same to my truck?

Charles

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Brake pipe routing
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:07:43 -0800

Hi Bill,

Does your SIII have a single brake circuit or dual?

If it's single, I could probably dig up a diagram from a parts book and
fax it to you?

I've just finished replacing all the pipes on my vehicle.  Now if I
could just get all of the damn AIR out!  ;-)

let me know.

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC  

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:54:49 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: More on Land Rover steering

I'd like to see the two finger deal when the truck is hove down at 40 
degrees on the driver's side with a couple of passengers whilst up to the 
doortops in mud and all the weight on the front tire.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:06:10 -0600
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@krts.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard

CIrvin1258 wrote:
> I don't know if Safari Guard has a website, 

www.safarigard.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:42:03 +0000
From: Cas Stimson <cstimson@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Atlantic Britich and Safari Guard

Greg's email address at Safari Gard for ordering and questions is 

safarigard@alphainfo.com

Cas Stimson

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:43:51 +0000
From: Lenny Warren <lwarren@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Wanted, clamps for L-R roof rack!!

Hi there,

This is quite urgent! If anyone has these can they e-mail me direct???

I have a genuine parts roof rack for a 90. It's part no. RTC8161A. I got it
second hand but the clamp plates that hold it on the gutter are missing!
L-R are VERY expensive to supply them! 

I don't suppose anyone has any lying about??? It is a bit of a long shot!!!

Thanks..
 
Catch you later,
Lenny...

                  Lenny Warren, Strathaven, Scotland.             
                  e-mail: lwarren@zetnet.co.uk  
                  www: http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/8160

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:24 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Camel trophy

Sorry this is late, but i just remembered.  Last Sunday evening, they had a
15 min. segment on the '96 Borneo CT on "How'd They Do That?" on The
Learning Channel.  Hadn't seen this particular footage before.  I may be
re-broadcast sometimes this week.... Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:34:39 -0800
From: Dave Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: capstan winch parts

If someone wants to post the dimensions and a picture of the part you
want I will try to make you one.  Just bought a new (old) Southbend
Lathe and want to do a thing or two.  Also have a milling machine so it
shouldn't be too big a deal.  Son is a machinest so if I really screw up
I can always call on the "little guy" to help old Dad out.
Dave VE4PN

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: Capstan Winch Help
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:58:07 -0800

Many thanks to all who responded to my request for help trying to locate
a drive shaft for an old capstan winch.

It looks like the chap who owns the vehicle will be attempting to make
his own, as many of you suggested.

Paul Quin.

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:56:59 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Rivets?

Of course I've erased the many letters on this subject - where do you
get the special Land Rover bodywork rivets (I have just pulled the galv
trim of the roof to straighten it). Ho do you fit these - does it need a
special tool? Anypone have a supplier in Denmark/UK/Europe - telephone
numbers? e-mails? help appreciated!

Adrian Redmond

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From: GNBull3 <GNBull3@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:57:19 EST
Subject: Re: Land Cruiser

In a message dated 3/9/98 18:07:32, you wrote:

<<PS - I've got an old Land Cruiser for free, too.  It runs and can be driven.
I want it off my property>>

John,
	Do you still have the Land Cruiser. I'm interested, so if it is still 
around,
let me know. My place is definitely looking like a "I'll bet that used to be a
nice place..." but then I live in rural NH and all my neighbors properties are
pretty much the same :) The old lady will kill me but I've always had a soft
spot for Land Cruisers. Of course I've got more than a soft spot for Land
Rovers but I have enough parts so hopefully your parts will go to somebody who
needs them more.

Cheers,
George Bull

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:34:14 -0500
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: IIa overheating

I'm still in the midst of rebuilding my s2a, lsat week I replaced the
non perational ether filled temp
guage with a non functioning electronic sending unit(I didn't know it
was junk) the engine ran fine
and was not overly hot at thiat point... I determined that the sending
unit was junk so I replaced it
with the one off of my spare 71sIII voila the guage worked(guage was
sourced out of a 70 ish
sIIa) now the engine steadily climbs into the red and would no doubt
continue if I did not shut it
down... I assumed it was the thermostat so I replaced it with an
original and functioning 160
degree unit, the engine still gets very hot. WHY? it was fine before I
replaced the second sending
unit. the only other chhange I have made is I put on an old Solex carb
because my carter was
running too rich. somewhere between those changes the engine decided it
was going to overheat. I
have checked out the waterpump and it appears ok, the radiator is a late
model one and is fine, the
system holds coolant, there are no leaks... is it possible when I
changed sending units air got
locked in the system? this is driving me nuts I don't see how changing
the sending unit could cause
an engine to get so much hotter than before(its clearly hotter to the
touch etc...)

thanks for any suggestions

Matt

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From: RoverNut <RoverNut@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:30:39 EST
Subject: Re: rover door vents

Man, that's old school!

Sand Toler wrote that article in 93 (?). I believe it's his unmistakable
artwork as well (of which I'm a fan).
He actually sat idle while his poor dog did all the work.
I'm not sure what he drove then, but he's driving a damn spiffy ex-Scottish
Nat'l Trust blue 109 these days.

Alex Maiolo

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:47:48 -0500
From: Robert M McCullough <dieselbob@erols.com>
Subject: overheating

matt nelson, first thing i would do is before starting my rover, remove
the radiator cap and place a temperature reading gauge in the top,
sometimes its not as hot as you may think. look to see if coolant is
circulating.

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:56:36 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: A land rover for my daughter.

 WE ( my daughter and I ) are rebuilding a 59 88,  it is what she has always
wanted, my 109 is too big.  WE are even painting it purple !! ugh....
  Here comes the good bit, " sorry dad I can't assist you this evening, need
to work on my college stuff. You do want to get good value out of my college
fees don't you !!! "
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "Mark Freeman" <mfreeman@iland.net>
Subject: Father - Son, Father Daughter Land Rover Restorations
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:45:55 -0600

Clayton Kirkwood asked if there were any father-son Land Rover restorations
in progress. I will report yes, two in this family:  Son Colin - 14, Series
III 88" petrol wagon; Son Graham - 12, Series III 109 one tonne, soon to be
powered by GM 6.2 diesel w/ Samurai adapter.

Our boys have been around Land Rover's all their lives and I didn't have to
put them up to this.  They actually ask why people would want to drive
anything else.

This concept is both good and bad;  good - justification for projects, bad
- will leave me without a Series LR daily driver at the end of the
projects.

Maybe we fathers should talk about this.  I'm not suggesting arranged
marriages
 but ....

Best Regards,

Mark Freeman
Series Land Rover's in the Nursery
1997 Disco
Other vehicles of less note.
Sedalia, Missouri

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From: NADdMD <NADdMD@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:25:15 EST
Subject: Bearings Part Numbers

Hi all,

Does anyone know the Timken (or other quality bearing manufacturer) number for
the bearings in the transfer case and front output housing?

Thanks
Nate

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From: DONOHUE PE <DONOHUEPE@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:37 EST
Subject: Land Rover Steering

On Mon, 09 Mar 1998, Peter Thoren asked "How strong do you need to be to be
able to handle the steering in a 109 series 3?  My girlfriend is 162 cm tall
(short...)  and weighs approximately 50 kg.  Will she have a problem, with
steering and maybe also with reaching the pedals?"

Should not be a problem.  One benefit of the 109 is the adjustable driver's
seat.  It can be pulled up close for Shorty and pushed back for you.

"I am 189 cm and weighs approximately 100 kg.  Will I have a problem fitting
behind the steering wheel?"

No.  I am 183 & 100Kg and have adequate room in my 109.  Depending on your
body proportions, you may find the top of the windscreen is a bit low.  To
see traffic lights, you may need to lean forward and look up.  This is
because Land Rovers were designed 40 or 50 years ago when most of the people
on the rainy island were smaller than we are.

"Stupid questions, maybe, but highly relevant to us."

Nah; the only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover Dormobile
Denver


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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:10:42 EST
Subject: Re: Rivets?

Adrian,

You may want to try an aviation parts supplier (if there's one near you). if
you have/have access to an air compressor, then all you need, is an air hammer
(rivet gun), bucking bars, and any required hammer bits, for shooting rivets.

Note: if shopping for an air hammer, the more BPM's (blows per minute), the
better.

Pop rivets can work, but they don't hold as well.

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:11:45 EST
Subject: Re: More on Land Rover steering

Well...it may not work in that condition!

Charles

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: FFR-wiring
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:41:48 +1000

From: Marijn van der Himst wrote:
>Scanning stuff is not a problem, however I'll need to build a
>homepage first, unless someone else has got enough space
>on a already know LR-sight that will be easy to find for all the
>LR-fans.

I don't mind putting it up on my site
http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman/rover

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia (02) 4735-6883
Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: Australian Fuel Pump
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:39:29 +1000

Wade Hughes wrote:

>But now spring's coming & I'd better take care of this upside-down
>fuel pump...Yup, it's mounted with the bowl up,

> Has anybody an explanation for mounting the pump upside down?

Hmm, it's a bit of a worry.  I've never seen any other type of fuel pump
except where the bowl is on top.  But then, I've nearly always had British
cars.  I don't think it's because I'm Australian. 8-)

Sounds entirely normal to me.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia (02) 4735-6883
Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:31:25 -0500
From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Subject: Re: Landrover steering

Peter Thoren wrote:

> I was very impressed by the number of replies on my safety question. If
> this is typical for this mailinglist I really will enjoy following it. From
> the postings I conclude that Landrovers are safe enough for me to buy one.
> Now I have another question, originating from the fact that I have never
> tried to drive a Landrover. I am about to go 450 km to see/buy one next
> week and I thought this question would be good to answer in beforehand. How
> strong do you need to be to be able to handle the steering in a 109 series
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> peter.thoren@genetik.uu.se
> --------------------------------------

Peter,
  I've got a '61 SII HT. Niether my wife nor I have any problems with the
pedals, and as far as the steering goes, it's a little on the heavy side when
your just creeping along i.e. manuvering into parking spaces, but it is really
nothing that should scare you off. Providing of course everything is in good
repair; and in normal driving situations it is just like any other
non-powersteering vehicle. My wife is 4'10" (not a typo) and weighs in at about
95 lbs. I on the other hand am 5'10" and just over the 200lbs mark
                  Good luck with your new venture.
                             Dan. '61 SII HT

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