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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:18:37 -0800
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: The continuing adventures of Murphy.]

d.h.lowe wrote:

> were in beautifull downtown Oshawa, and volunteered Gavin to pick it up.

Beautiful downtown Oshawa? Isn't that where the Hell's Angels hang out? 
Handy the corner of Bond and Simcoe?

> Gavin jumped into Murphy and drove away, only to notice as he turned on
> to the main street a Durham Region police car behind him.

Durham RP will chase any kid swilling beer in a '62 Chev convertible on 
Taunton Rd. They have no humor.

> I`m telling you folks, what with snapping hydro poles and bodies in
> ravines this boy o` mine aint gonna be  growed up too good.
>  He's driving an 88 ain't he? He's gotta be growing up good!

Cheers,

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:42:36 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: The continuing adventures of Murphy.]

This just what happens when you spend too much time with the Lowe
life!!! That poor Land Rover should adopted by a loving caring family
that doesn't have large white dogs.

    John and Muddy

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:02:03 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Re: that importing thing

>:What have I missed?
> The '80's!
> This was allowed before the rules were changed
> around 1990 or so.  Now the only vehicles anyone
> can bring back is one built by the manufacturer
> for the North American (Canada/US) market.

Some other cars can still be brought in this way. They are on the DOT "good
list" some Porsches, Mercedes, that sort of thing... No Land Rovers though.
:-(

Have a great day all.

From: Mike Smith,  EAST COAST ROVER CO.
*Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME (USA) 04864
207.594.8086 phone  207.594.8120 fax
http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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From: "Chris Weinbeck, Office Logic, Inc." <cmw@tiac.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:07:22 -0500

Hi All.

I've been really busy at work lately, and haven't managed much in the way of 
Rovering...

Thought you all might like this.

Q:  How many list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?

A:	1,331:

1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb
has been changed.

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light
bulb could have been changed differently.

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.

27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.

53 to flame the spell checkers

156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb
discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.

41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.

109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take
this email exchange to alt.light.bulb

203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.

111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use lightbulbs
and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list.

306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique, and what brands are faulty.

27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs

14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs.

3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this
list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.

33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers
and footers, and then add "Me Too."

12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversey.

19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."

4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.

1 to propose new alt.change.light.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just
what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here.

143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

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 Christopher Weinbeck  Office Logic, Inc.     V (508) 392-0288
   _______             7 Littleton Road       F (508) 692-0897
  |__][_[_\__          Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for
  |___\_|_]__]                                 the health care
    (o)    (o) '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile     professional

 ***Wondering if you should "Ask me about East Coast Rover"***

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: robot1@juno.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:23:30 -0600
Subject: Sighting, and blobs hanging off bottoms

Saw a cartoon of a series Rover (IIa, as closely as the cartoon was
drawn) on a program called "AAAAGH! Real Monsters" on Nickelodeon. Was
driven by an Aussie who was helping to hunt down a monster.  Wonder how
this compares to the Johnny Quest cartoon rover sighting?
Also,
Ron Beckett wrote:
>Hmm, what are blobs that hang off bottoms called?
>Ron

Ron, are you suggesting that Wales is a Dingleberry? And have you ever
noticed that you never see migrant workers picking dingleberries?

Mark

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:48:52 EST
Subject: What does SWMBO mean?

SWMBO sounds like a good name for a Land Rover.    Could be pronounced as
though it contained another vowel.  Has a distinctly Deep South kinda sound to
it though. (read Deep North for OZ readers).  

Paul Donohue
Denver
1965 Land Rover Dormobile

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:11:54 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Lightbulbs

plus one to reply "Message received - Thanks" 10234656563423 times

not mentioning any names of course (Hi Anthony!)

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:13:06 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: What does SWMBO mean?

Single White Male Buick Owner?

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From: "Mitch" <mstockdale@pop3.mho.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:13:34 +0000
Subject: For Dixons pleasure, No LR content

This is an actual transcript of a radio conversation, released by the
Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

AMERICANS:  Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid
a collision.

CANADIANS:  Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South
to avoid a collisin.

AMERICANS;  This is the Captain of a US Naval ship.  I say again,
divert YOUR course.

CANADIANS:  No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.

AMERICANS;  THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND
LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES ATLANTIC FLEET, WE ARE ACCOMPANIED
BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS, AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS, I
DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE-FIVE
DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE
SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

CANADIANS;  This is a light-house, YOUR CALL!!!!!

J. Mitchell Stockdale

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date:  20 Feb 98 16:40:53 EST
Subject: Re: Hey gang!

>I'm still alive here in Wisconson. Spring's on the way so maybe I'll 
>actually get my Lightweight back on the road soon.
>Figured it was time to join the real people again.

Tom!
Welcome back buddy! Its good to see some old faces on the list again.
later
DaveB

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:59:27 -0500
Subject: Re: SWMBO

With apologies to Rumpole of the Bailey :

She  Who Must Be Obeyed - of course!

     aj"He Who Also Calls The Wife That"r

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:08:40 -0500
From: Russ Burns <burns@ismi.net>
Subject: Re: For Dixons pleasure, No LR content

well, did we create a new canal?

Russ

At 12:13 PM 2/22/98 +0000, you wrote:
>This is an actual transcript of a radio conversation, released by the
>Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.
>AMERICANS:  Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid
>a collision.
>CANADIANS:  Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South
>to avoid a collisin.

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 27 lines)]
>CANADIANS;  This is a light-house, YOUR CALL!!!!!
>J. Mitchell Stockdale

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Subject: SWMBO
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:13:59 -0800
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What does it mean?

Satellites Will Melt Beamer Owners?

Sinks With Messes Belong Outside?

Speeding White Messersmit's Beat Opal's?

Single White Males Being Ostracized?

Ships With Motors Break Occasionally?

Solve the mystery, what does it mean?

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:34:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 2.5 four cyl where a 2.6 six cyl was

Yeah, I know! A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence (or a phrase)
with.
I just finished putting a late 2.5 Rover motor into a 72 series IIa which had
a very tired 2.6.
Here are the highlights.
The bellhousings were different, so I had to swap in one from a series three
trans. The truck already had a series three gearbox in it anyway. The holes
in the bellhousing had to be reamed for the larger 10mm studs on the 2.5, and
the clutch from the six worked fine. The used clutch on the used, but 'ready
to go!" (where have we heard *that* before?) engine was seized by rust to the
pressure plate; what friction material wasn't on the other side of the
flywheel, that is. Twenty-something splined anyway.
The engine sits about four inches (100 mm for y'all in the EU) further back.
By using the brackets that came on the 2.5, I was able to cut the old mount
off the frame on that side, and weld it back on a few inches back. On the
left side, I cut a frame mount out of a well and truly rusted exMOD frame on
the treasure trove o' scrap parts. Cleaned it up and welded it on, by
clamping it to the cleaned frame, in place under the mount, with a torpedo
level on the valve cover to keep everything plumb.
Had to cobb together some strange looking hoses to connect the IIa six
radiator to the new mill. That'll work till the owner gets a proper rad made
or ordered from the old country.
Hooked up the throttle linkage by twisting a piece of the six' bracket 90
degrees, placing it under a cable stop, and used a cut down bicycle brake
cable on the cable actuated throttle. Moved the choke cable so it'd reach.
Used VW heater box cable clamps to hold them on.
Wouldn't want to do it again, but owner didn't want a Chevy mill......go
figure.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:06:04 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Adventures 

In 1976 I was stopped by a Ford driving PC ( Police Constable ) with the
greeting " Good Morning Stirling ( for the younger reader, a reference to
Stirling Moss a former Grand prix racing driver in the fifties and sixties )
he then went on to tell me that he had been following me for six miles
allong roads in the Yorkshire Dales and had clocked me at 85 miles per hour
!!!.  I forgot to preface this story with the information that I was driving
a ten year old 109 POWERED by a 2.25 litre diesel engine.  I had actually
touched circa 70 mph in nuetral down  Buckhaw Brow, a steep descent. but
about 35 up the other side.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:34:21 -0500
Subject: Re: 2.5 four cyl where a 2.6 six cyl was

Sure it's a hack - but how did it run?

               ajr

P.S.: Where'd you scavenge a usable 2.5? Makes my top-10 list of things to
find....

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 07:46:06 +0100
From: "Said Geoffrey at MITTS" <Geoffrey.Said@magnet.mt>
Subject: RE:Rear main seal

I also have the rear main seal leaking and it was also leaking about the same 
ammount 3 years ago.

I check the engine oil and top up if necessary but believe me if the engine is 
good it is not worth it to pull the engine out just for the seal.  

There is also another advantage.  When you periodically top up with oil you 
have 
good oil lubricating the engine every time reducing wear and sludge building up.

Gsherman
Malta

Neil Sheridan:
>Who wrote this?  Really!  Come on, was it you, LT Jackson?
>If this is a serious post, my recommendation is a big sheet of cardboard on 
the 
>garage floor (to be renewed annually).  In addition, pray in your preferred 

form 
>of homage-giving that you will continue to be so lucky.  Or, check to make 
sure 
>that you have engine and gearbox oil.  Good Luck!
>BTW, your mechanic either doesn't know British cars or should be arrested.
>Neil Sheridan
>65 88, The Sheridan Valdez
>NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS:   neilsheridan@nac.net

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
>>>  Andersen Consulting
>>>  Minneapolis, MN USA

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From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: For Dixons pleasure, No LR content
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:00:50 -0800

> This is an actual transcript of a radio conversation, released by the
> Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

A friend from the UK sent me this joke a year ago ..  
> AMERICANS;  THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, 
> Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

however, his copy used the Battleship USS Missouri .. so I doubt it is
really from a transcript (although I thought so when I first heard it).

Frank

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:39:23 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: For Dixons pleasure, No LR content

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, FHYap wrote:

> > This is an actual transcript of a radio conversation, released by the
> > Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

> A friend from the UK sent me this joke a year ago ..  
> > AMERICANS;  THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, 
> > Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

> however, his copy used the Battleship USS Missouri .. so I doubt it is
> really from a transcript (although I thought so when I first heard it).

It is indeed not a real transcript.  See the alt.folklore.urban FAQ at
www.urbanlegends.com

David

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:39:29 +1300
From: graham@muddy.gen.nz (Graham Furniss)
Subject: Re: Rear Bulkhead ??

>Kia ora to all on the list.
>                                        I am about to remove the wellside
>off my lwb series 3. What I plan to do is turn it in a truck. I have been
>offered a rear bulkhead? (wall that go's behind seat) however it is off a
>series2 and I would like to know if it the some as the series3?.
>Cheers.... Tom Dixon

Hi Tom,

Yes, they are the same, BUT the 109 and 88 are different (I think).
Certainly the pickup rear bodies are. Make sure the donor is from a 109.
Also, you may find that there are some chassis mountings missing from your
chassis, compare it with the donor chassis if you can. Does your SIII have
the petrol tank under the drivers seat or at the rear. I f it is in the
rear then you will have to blank off the fuel filler hole. Good luck with
the swap. What do you plan for the rear body?

Cheers, Graham.

PS. What city are you in?

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 08:54:11 +0000
From: Roydon Woodford <roydon@landrover.org>
Subject: Alterations

Has anybody fitted defender wings to a series III vehicle? whats involved
and how long does it take? rough ideas:)

TIX
Roydon

Landrover Owners Group
>http://www.landrover.org
roydon@landrover.org
info@landrover.org
mobile: 44 976 943089

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From: Grieg Walker <gwalker@rennies.co.za>
Subject: Stainless Steel Gauze under carb ??
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:44:43 +0200

Hi

My girlfriend met a hunter in Botswana. He had been driving i.e. fixing old
Landies for years. He told her a way to save petrol on a Landie was to put
a stainless steel gauze under the carb.
Was he having her on ?
Is it possible it might help ?
If it did cut down on fuel consumption what would it do to the performance
of my Landie ?

Thanks in advance

Grieg - IIA '68        "Remember Love Thy Landie"
Cheers

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:22:34 +0000
Subject: re: pink messages

> I believe it recognizes and allows for hotlinks to email addresses
> and web pages in email.  Of course it also fails to pick up its own
> trash and spews it out all over the internet into everyones mailbox
> not set up for browser email.  Thanks Bob.. err, Bill!!

Which is rather odd, 'cos both of my email systems (Notes and AMEOL)
recognise HTML tags and use them accordingly, no problem at all. I don't
really like Notes (but getting used to it), and AMEOL is a system-specific
email system, but works well.

So why can't IE do it proper?

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:53:07 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Gauze under carb ??

Grieg Walker wrote:

> Hi
> My girlfriend met a hunter in Botswana. He had been driving i.e. fixing old
> Landies for years. He told her a way to save petrol on a Landie was to put
> a stainless steel gauze under the carb.
> Was he having her on ?
> Is it possible it might help ?
> If it did cut down on fuel consumption what would it do to the performance
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)]
> Grieg - IIA '68        "Remember Love Thy Landie"
> Cheers

What was the gauze supposed to do? If it acted as a heat deflector/absorber to
prevent perculation in the carb I suppose it would have a beneficial effect.
Other than that I really can't imagine what it's going to accomplish.

However if it works please send me a working drawing :->

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com
into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine
http://Adventures.co.za

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:25:17 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: re: pink messages

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Richard Marsden wrote:

> So why can't IE do it proper?

It can; it just doesn't by default.  I detest HTML encoded mail.  I am
really thinking about writing procmail filters to kill it before i ever
see it.

david

> Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:52:20 +0000
Subject: Re: locating 2 6-volt batteries

The FFR solution is to have a box where the cubby box/central seat is.
There's like a sunken hole, in which two 12v batteries fit. There are then
two "frames" which bolt down on them, to hold them in place.
Over this goes the "box". Mines a nice gloss black! :-)
This has two vents, and lies fairly low (slightly raised above the height
of standard issue Series seat cushions). Makes a handy flat surface for
road atlases, lunch, etc!  :-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

SPYDERS@aol.com on 02/21/98 10:53:15 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  Re:  locating 2 6-volt batteries

In a message dated 2/21/98 2:15:26 PM, you wrote:
>Does anyone have their second battery in the engine compartment with the
>first one? My repair manual states this is a possible location and I don't
>think it would last too long under the driver's (LHD) seat
My first battery is under the driver's seat, and it has done just fine
there
for a while, now. I'm wondering about where to put the 2nd one. The engine
compartment is not an option, nor a consideration. Probably it will go
under
the passenger's seat.
pat
93 "w/split charger" 110

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