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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:28:03 +0000
From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@rhi.hi.is>
Subject: Re: Help with Series III

....
>     2. What is the easiest way of removing the tank drain plug? Is there 
>     any danger of damaging the tank trying to remove it?

After many attempts using the biggest screwdriver I could find lying around
I figured that the tyre iron - that was in the LR when I got it - and I
assume are in all LRs -  came in very handy and loosened the plug in
5seconds! - ehhee without any damage...

there you have it!

Olafur Agust
 
   

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
olafura@hi.is     http://www.hi.is/~olafura

Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary!

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:32:30 +0000
From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@rhi.hi.is>
Subject: Re : Help with Series III

I forgot this one....  

> This brings me to my questions.
> 1. The fuel in the tank is 5 years old. I intend trying to empty the 
> tank and put fresh fuel in it. Would fuel this old cause any problems 
> if I just left it in the tank - if so what problems.

I started mine up on a full tank of 10 year old petrol - but as can be seen
in my previous letter -  I drained the tank first - just to be sure that it
wasnt just water - and than after smelling it a bit I put it back in....
and fired up!

OA

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: bed liners
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:47:51 -0500

As I am at the stage in the restoration of a '67 SIIA where everything is
torn apart, I have been considering a Rhino lining application to the inside
of the firewall.  (They have a webpage if you're interested.)  The
Rhinolining is a lot thicker than a paint and has a rubbery texture, so it
is not the most attractive application, particularly inside the cab (colors
are also limited).  However, it is scratchproof, waterproof, soundproof,
etc.  I have heard nothing but good things about it from those who have it
in their bed or inside a Jeep.  A friend is applying it to the entire inside
of his '74 Cruiser.

I have personally decided against it for aesthetic reasons.  I will use
other means to waterproof / soundproof the cab.  (I'll scratchproof it by
keeping my friend with the Cruiser out of it.)  

Kevin
'67 SIIA 88"

> (not to be confused with rubber bedsheets)
> Has anyone on the list used aftermarket spray-on type bedliners in their
> Land
> Rover? I'm referring to products like Rhino Linings which is applied
> commercially or Lava Liner which is a DIY two-part coating.
> Looking for opinions or experiences with the stuff.
> I'd like to use it because:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)]
> 4. Stop stuff from sliding around.
> TIA,

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:49:02 EST
Subject: Re:  10 yr old gas

In a message dated 2/18/98 7:33:41 AM, you wrote:

>I started mine up on a full tank of 10 year old petrol - but as can be seen
>in my previous letter -  I drained the tank first - just to be sure that it
>wasnt just water - and than after smelling it a bit I put it back in....
>and fired up!

That may be because of something I read recently, maybe on this list. The gist
of it was that gas from back then lasted longer than today's stuff, but the
new gas is "better". So, I guess if you had old mix in there you are ok, but
don't think of leaving today's fuel in the tank.

pat
93 110

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: LRO or LRW contact info
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:59:48 -0500

http://web.idirect.com/~lroshop/

LRO Home Page

Kevin

g____________________________
        Kevin A. Murphy
       GE GAS TURBINE FINANCE
       (864) 675-2727 / 8*288-2727 (phone)
       (864)-675-2274 / 8*288-2274 (fax)

> ----------
> From: 	Kevin Sellitti[SMTP:Kevinsel@gte.net]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, February 17, 1998 9:06 PM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	LRO or LRW contact info
> Anyone where I can write to get a subscription to Land Rover World or Land
> Rover Owner? Is one Mag better than the other? Does either have a Website?
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> Rover Owner? Is one Mag better than the other? Does either have a Website?
> 						Thanks

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:18:14 EST
Subject: Re: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...

Pat,

What you saw was a SEE (Small Emplacement Excavator) used by Army Engineer and
Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) units.  Used by Active Army, National Guard,
and Army Reserve units.  Primarily used for limited digging and dirt moving.
Pretty much a PITA as far as the hydraulics.  The rest is an Oshkosh licensed
built UNIMOG.  They have been in the system about six or seven years, so I
doubt that many have hit the Disposal System.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA
(I play Army for a living)

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 08:53:42 EST
Subject: Re: Fuel drain gasket substitute, was Help with Series III

>....just be sure to get a new metal washer (something ridiculous like $1.00 
>from RN!)
>The intake manifold gasket for forty horse VW engines is a good substitute; 

how about a big glob of gasket goo for when you get tired of rebuilding 
volkswagens.

later
DaveB

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From: Mark Sullivan <marks@dataflowsys.com>
Subject: RE: bed liners
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:55:32 -0500

Does anybody have the second leaf (the one that holds the spring bushes) 
for a 109 drivers side front 11 leaf spring. The one on there, has an eye 
twice as big as the bush and therefore, lets the bush rattle around. Any 
help would be great. I'm located in Melbourne FL.

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:33:25 +0300 (EET)
From: Semih Bingol <semih@leo.ee.hun.edu.tr>
Subject: Re: LRO or LRW contact info

http://www.lroi.com

Most people prefer LROI over LRW I believe.

Semih Bingol
74 SIII SWB 2.25 petrol 

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:50:14 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: 109 springs

Er, um the second leaf is supposed to be big at the bushing end (safety 
device in case of primary leaf failure) . The first leaf actually holds 
the bush. If yours is missing or broken, perhaps new springs should go on 
the shopping list.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:31:59 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Engine swaps

Russ Wilson wrote:

>The Volvo turbo diesel is something that he came upon while looking for an
>Iron duke....   The Volvo is out of a boat, which could make things very
>interesting.

Indeed.  marine engines are a whole 'nother kettle of fish.  Other than the
problems with manifolds and wet exhausts, the problem with most marine
engines is the caming, in that they are designed to run at one power
setting all day long, as opposed to an automotive engine that change revs
frequently.  As a consequence, most marine engines have a narrow
power/torque band.  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:32:01 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Crash

Deezilbob@aol.com wrote:

>Just saw on the news that Alan Goins, a member of Roav, crashed his home
>built aircraft sunday afternoon over at Suffolk airfield. Reports are he
is >ok, apparently he went down 300 yards short of the airfield. When last
I >talked to him he said that his intentions were to tow the airplane back
and >forth withhis 88

Whoa...just talked to him about it at the annual meeting...the plane had
just been finished and he was having it checked out prior to FAA
certification.  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:19:54 -0800
From: Todd_Wilson@ccmail.columbia.com (Todd Wilson)
Subject: Britpac

     
     I've been getting a busy signal on their 800 line continuosly 
     yesterday and today. Any thoughts??? Does anyone have direct # for 
     them?
     
     tew

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:00:10 -0800
From: Britt Anderson <brittnell@mondomed.com>
Subject: INSURANCE WOES

Help!  I've just been bent over the rail by AAA, and need a new carrier
that knows the difference between my '63 SIIa 88" and a '98 Range Rover.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Brittnell
Brittnell@mondomed.com

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:50:31 EST
Subject: Re: Britpac

Try (818)-841-8945, of if you like to fax (818)-841-3825.

Their 800 number is a pain in the butt to get through on, sometimes.

Charles

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:31:20 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Subject: Fueling around

> This brings me to my questions.

Mike wrote:

>     1. The fuel in the tank is 5 years old. I intend trying to empty the 
>     tank and put fresh fuel in it. Would fuel this old cause any problems 
>     if I just left it in the tank - if so what problems.

Say *what*!!!  That the Rover would even cough with five year old fuel is a
positive testamant to the capabilities of dealing with the likes of PMex
gas.  Get rid of that old crap PDQ!
     
>     2. What is the easiest way of removing the tank drain plug? Is there 
>     any danger of damaging the tank trying to remove it?

Other than making a purpose-built wrench (which will also work on the diff
and tranny drains) out of 1/4" flat stock, stick the biggest wrench that
will fit *into* the slot, then turn that wrench with vise-grips or another
adjustable wrench.
     
>     3. What are the things I should be looking out for with the Zenith 
>     carb that might be causing the choke problem described above?

The Zeniths are prone to warping between the halves which will produce the
symptoms you describe.  The top and bottom and be ground flat using 200-400
grit emery paper on a flat glass plate.  The O-ring is also likely to be
toast.

>	Are there any initial settings of the mixture and idle speed screws? >
The carb is fitted with the "throttle prop system" and a solenoid >	fuel
cut off valve. Do these things cause any problems?

You betcha'.  You must have the original 36IVE carb, which has been
replaced by the 36IV.  For those unfamiliar, the fuel cutoff solenoid is in
the same place as the "slow running idle jet" that most call the 'mixture
screw'.  There is no mixture adjustment, tho', other than swapping jets.

If the solenoid still functions (its weight wears away the pot metal of the
carb base, and when it falls out on the manifold, things get interesting
real quick :-0 ) you can try rebuilding the carb...BP has the best prces
right now on rebuild kits...but plan on getting a new 36IV.
 
Pat wrote:
  
>Drain it into a suitable container, label it "GAS" and *forget* it outside
>your garage.

>When you wake up the next day and look outside, it has been "disposed" of.

Bravo! *Excellent* idea.  I did that with some gum wood (doesn't split,
burns fast and leaves lots of ash in the wood stove).  Cut it up and some
"helpful" person 'liberated' it all....cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:29:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: INSURANCE WOES

>Help!  I've just been bent over the rail by AAA, and need a new carrier
>that knows the difference between my '63 SIIa 88" and a '98 Range Rover.
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I have $8000 full coverage through State Farm.  You do need to take your
vehicle to an approved appraiser and get everything in writing and State
Farm will take care of you.  I pay $600 year.

Good luck.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 15:38:00 EST
Subject: Winn Bearden

Winn Bearden
please email me, want to ask about your hybrid.

DaveB
dbobeck@ushmm.org

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From: "Peter Hope" <shdwrvr@erols.com>
Subject: re:  Tigger for sale
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:54:35 -0500
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>Tigger is still on the block. I hope to have more photos up on the
>website of him tomorrow.  Anyone know of a good '92 RR for sale??
>Sincerely,
>Dale

Dale, what is the URL?

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:08:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Roberts <psu00712@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:

<snip>
> Drain it into a suitable container, label it "GAS" and *forget* it outside
> your garage.
> When you wake up the next day and look outside, it has been "disposed" of.

Maybe this is where ajr's bad advice of adding acetone would come in 
handy!  You would see which teenage stickyfinger took it by noticeing 
which jalopy was stranded in the middle of the road trailling valves and 
piston pieces behind it!

> (Maybe it is just a Miami thing, but if it isn't locked down, it gets
> borrowed/disposed of for you; oh yeah, also applies to Range Rovers here.)
> pat
> When you wake up the next day and look outside, it has been "disposed" of.

Michael Roberts
Vernonia, Oregon

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:38:30 -0500
From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: Thin shaft Transfer case intermediate Bearings

Talk to Ian Ashcroft in the U,K. His transfer box conversion in which he
raises the high range is accomplished by re-drilling a small shaft box to
suite the large shaft except that he offsets the shaft to accept the revised
gear set.

Craig Murray wrote:

> Hi all,
>         I have running in my 86" a thin shaft transfer case, after
> having the intermediate bearings go in it on the weekend, totally
> destroying the transfer case, is there anyway I can put larger bearings
> in for the intermediate shaft, as I have been told that they do not like
> a lot of high speed work.  I know that the later thick shaft transfer
> cases do not have the same problem, but the low range reduction on these
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)]
> 1955 86" 2.25 Diesel, Difflock, Snorkel, PTO Winch. (Off Roader)
> 1951 80" (Potential Show Vehicle)

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:33:24 +0800 (SGT)
From: torque@pacific.net.sg (Lawrence Lee)
Subject: 2.6l engine

Hi all,

A friend of mine rebuilt his 2.6l engine, ran it a couple of miles, then,
replaced the lump with a diesel (yes, it's the famous 6-cylinder petrol
guzzler ;-)). Now he wants to give it away.

He is asking for nothing, except to be reimbursed for freight expenses to
send your location. From what I know, the engine is in Kota Kinabalu,
Sabah, E. Malaysia.

Anyone interested, please email me direct. As my friend does not have email
I thought I'd put this up to the list. I have no commercial interest, etc,
etc.

Cheers,
Lawrence Lee
'81 Ser III 109 2.6l

Lawrence Lee, Art Director
Torque Class Magazine,
The Only Motor Magazine You Have to be Seen In
MPH Trade Publications (S) Pte Ltd,
12 Tagore Drive, Singapore 787621
Tel: 453 8200  DID: 450 6005  Fax: 453 8600

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:47:08 -0500
From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net>
Subject: Re: Winn Bearden

Sorry that I haven't written back sooner, but I've been extremely busy at
work lately (plus a 3 week old baby!).  I've been meaning to put a
description on my web page, but so far I've only got a picture up.  It's
basically a series III 109" body with both ends of the bed lopped off; the
front to match the 100" RR wheelbase, the back to give a great departure
angle.  A 90/110 hood and grille was put on let the v-8 fit, but I think
that with an electric fan the series grille would work.  I imagine that the
hardest part was to modify the bulkhead and transmission tunnel, and
probably the steering setup.  (in case I haven't mentioned, I bought it this
way- was cheaper than doing it myself).  I figure the RR chassis is late
70's- early 80's, w/ two SU's and an LT95.
    Let me know if I can answer more questions- I've got a digital camera
somewhere and can take some detailed pics if needed.

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote:

> Winn Bearden
> please email me, want to ask about your hybrid.
> DaveB
> dbobeck@ushmm.org

--
Winn Bearden
P.O. Box 464
Americus, GA 31709
912-924-6513 (H)
912-928-4984 (CELL)

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:58:13 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Help with ser 3

Mike, afetr several years of standing the O rings in the Zenith carb  are
shot, there is an O ring which separates the two halves, it is normally
below float level, it shrinks when it dries out after being immersed in
fuel.and fuel id drawn directly into the  engine without passing throught he
normal jets. A service kit will fix it.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:58:18 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Transfer case mod

Craig Murray asks : Is it possible to machine out the intermediate gear is
basically what I
am asking, and by how much can you????

 yes you can,  machine it the same dia as the later type, the problem then
is the gears to fit. it is much simpler to change to the later box, The
ratio difference is not noticable if you keep the main box.

By the way, machining out the small dia shafts is how Ian ashcroft makes his
high ratio conversions, they machine the small dia to the large dia off
centre to permit the use of a different ratio, a very clever technique.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: LRO or LRW 
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:32:33 -0300

Is there any doubt?
I've been getting LROI for a few months more than the 3 years that I have had 
the LR. 
I finally saw a copy of LRW for the first time last month, in a shop in 
Bulawayo, 
Zimbabwe. It was ZIM$180, or equivalent to a really good shopping cart of 
provisions 
for a family for a week. I was still tempted but one look at the tacky quality 
fixed 
that. What a relief.
Then back outside on the streets there were series wonders, police Santanas, 
expedition-equipped Tdi 110s - basicallly LR heaven.
Your mag might vary.
Allan.

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: Caterpillar and Perkins Engines
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:13:40 +1100

I just saw an item in a commercial fishing newspaper that Caterpillar are
buying the Perkins engine company from Lucas-Varity for US$1.3 billion.  So
a Caterpillar yellow and  powered LR might be OK to drive?
Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia

'86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual

Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:28:05 +0000
From: Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: LRO or LRW contact info

Semih Bingol wrote:
> http://www.lroi.com
> Most people prefer LROI over LRW I believe.

Not me,  I find them complacent, self-centred and Coil-sprung orientated

LRW may be a bit risque, and perhaps OTT for the USA market, however they
do talk about the things I'm interested in...

-- 

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)
    Medicine & Veterinary medicine Support Team,
    University Computing Services, 
    Edinburgh University. 
    Phone: +44 131 650 3027

Personal Web pages: <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:36:15 +0000
From: Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: More recovery points (SIII)

While the subject of recovery points is in the air..... I'm in the process
of joining my local LRC with a view to trying some RTV trials. 

What front recovery points do the folks out there suggest for RTV?? (the
local indie specialist (who does RTV,CCV & comp safari) said a tow-ball on
the front bumber would be ok, if I reinforce the bumber by bolting a piece
of angle-iron (or similar) to the back of the bumper.

comments??

*******************************
Duncan Phillips
1980 SWB SIII 'Evie'
http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/
*******************************
Big Bad n' Blue

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:49:16 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Caterpillar and Perkins Engines

>I just saw an item in a commercial fishing newspaper that Caterpillar are
>buying the Perkins engine company from Lucas-Varity for US$1.3 billion.
Why not indeed? A further connection is that Land Rover use Caterpillar's
spares distribution organisation in the UK.
cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 05:04:58 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: More recovery points (SIII)

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Duncan Phillips wrote:

> What front recovery points do the folks out there suggest for RTV?? (the
> local indie specialist (who does RTV,CCV & comp safari) said a tow-ball on
> the front bumber would be ok, if I reinforce the bumber by bolting a piece
> of angle-iron (or similar) to the back of the bumper.

I wouldn't use a tow-ball for recovery unless you absolutly have to.
There isn't much to hold a rope or strap from sliping off; a hook or ring
is much better.  You can rings that bolt to the frame at the same place
the bumper does.  Much beter, I think.   You should have a pair.

David

> comments??
> *******************************
> Duncan Phillips
> 1980 SWB SIII 'Evie'
> http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/
> *******************************

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> *******************************
> Big Bad n' Blue

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:22:02 +0000
From: Roydon Woodford <roydon@landrover.org>
Subject: Re: More recovery points (SIII)

At 05:04 19/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Duncan Phillips wrote:
>> What front recovery points do the folks out there suggest for RTV?? (the
>> local indie specialist (who does RTV,CCV & comp safari) said a tow-ball on
>> the front bumber would be ok, if I reinforce the bumber by bolting a piece
>> of angle-iron (or similar) to the back of the bumper.
>I wouldn't use a tow-ball for recovery unless you absolutly have to.
>There isn't much to hold a rope or strap from sliping off; a hook or ring
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
>is much better.  You can rings that bolt to the frame at the same place
>the bumper does.  Much beter, I think.   You should have a pair.

The rings through the frame are the best solution but it is worth investing
good money in a set as the cheap ones can shatter on a snatch recovery
leaving you stuck as well as the danger involved with flying chunks of metal.

Roydon

>David
>> comments??
>> *******************************
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 14 lines)]
>> of angle-iron (or similar) to the back of the bumper.
>I wouldn't use a tow-ball for recovery unless you absolutly have to.
>There isn't much to hold a rope or strap from sliping off; a hook or ring
Landrover Owners Group
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:37:34 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: LRO or LRW contact info

Ian ses:

> Most people prefer LROI over LRW I believe.

Not me,  I find them complacent, self-centred and Coil-sprung orientated

LRW may be a bit risque, and perhaps OTT for the USA market, however they
>do talk about the things I'm interested in...
I take 'em both.Just depends on mood,I find.Sometimes LRO seems a bit
pompous,and sometimes LRW's schoolboy humour gets up my nose,but they
both,IMO do a good job.Wouldnt do for them both to have the same tone
in presentation terms,they'd just end up clones of each other.
But I do agree with Ian.If I want Series stuff,I go for LRW.If I want
LR history,and future aims,etc,of the company,I go for LRO.
Just my two pennorth.
Mike Rooth

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