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1 "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@ns19Re: Neat tool
2 MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com24Computers and Stuff
3 MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com16RE: Check out British Bulldog Site
4 David Scheidt [david@inf17Re: Neat tool
5 David Scheidt [david@inf17Re: Throttle shaft breakage
6 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd17Re: Throttle shaft breakage
7 "K. John Wood" [jwrover@21What is this button??
8 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l12Re: What is this button??
9 Michael_Lenaghan@cayenne57Help with Series III
10 Adrian Redmond [channel643Re: What is this button??
11 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml27RE: Help with Series III
12 John Hong [jhong@best.co61Trigger-fuge...was keep trigger...
13 john cranfield [john.cra13Romping on
14 john cranfield [john.cra7Re: Seating tyre beads and TAS press day
15 john cranfield [john.cra13Re: Mechanics?
16 john cranfield [john.cra23Re: Help with Series III
17 john cranfield [john.cra22Re: Neat tool
18 JSmallals@aol.com 14Re: Help with Series III
19 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l26Re: Help with Series III
20 SPYDERS@aol.com 16Re: Re: Neat tool
21 SPYDERS@aol.com 22Re: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)
22 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml11RE: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)
23 SPYDERS@aol.com 32No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...
24 SPYDERS@aol.com 20Re: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)
25 Russ Wilson [rwilson@usa23Re: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...
26 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o17disposing of stinky old gas
27 ecrover@midcoast.com (Ea28Re: Romping on
28 Rob Horstman [robh@molie21General - Anybody there ?
29 "Jason B. Carroll" [carr17[not specified]
30 SPYDERS@aol.com 25bed liners
31 SPYDERS@aol.com 7Re: General - Anybody there ?
32 nlamon1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs8Re: D90 price
33 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire34Re: Help with Series III
34 Dan & Sally Cantwell [dc67Re: bed liners
35 Solihull@aol.com 20Fuel drain gasket substitute, was Help with Series III
36 Kevin Sellitti [Kevinsel9LRO or LRW contact info
37 Kevin Sellitti [Kevinsel15RE: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...
38 Dale Avery [davery@ior.c40Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
39 car4doc [car4doc@concent13Looking for a Used Winch
40 Craig Murray [craigm@bcn18Oil Pressure when going down hills
41 Craig Murray [craigm@bcn21Thin shaft Transfer case intermediate Bearings
42 David Scheidt [david@inf21Re: Oil Pressure when going down hills
43 Craig Murray [craigm@bcn23FW: Oil Pressure when going down hills
44 Andy Phillips [AnPi@nors16Unsubscribing from the list - I'm changing email


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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:40:23 -0800
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Neat tool

Ned Heite wrote:
> looks somewhat like eyeglsses, but with little flashlights at eyebrow
> level.  I have not seen them for sale in the U S, but they are popular in
> Europe. 
> Is there a U. S. source?

 You can get them from the Snap=off man, Wally Mart, Mac Tac Tools and 
here I've also seen them at Crappy Tire and Princess Auto. I'm not sure 
of the brand name, but they were retailing as low as 7.99 for a set. As 
silly as they look, they certainly are handy in tight spots. AAA 
batteries are a might expensive tho.

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: Computers and Stuff
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:47:26 -0500

Over the weekend, someone requested info on computers for sale.

Check out this website:
> http://www.surplusdirect.com/

They sell factory refurbished equipment, as well as surplus equipment.
Their prices are very good especially if you are willing to purchase last
year's model.  They have weekly emails of specials which is worth getting.

Good luck.

Kevin

g____________________________
        Kevin A. Murphy
       GE GAS TURBINE FINANCE
       (864) 675-2727 / 8*288-2727 (phone)
       (864)-675-2274 / 8*288-2274 (fax)

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: Check out British Bulldog Site
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:57:57 -0500

	What is the website address for British Bulldog?

Kevin Murphy

> Hey All!
> I suggest checking out the Britsih Bulldog site. They have a real time
> chat
> room. It seems cool. Not enough people on it yet though. I seem to keep
> missing all the conversaiton.
> John

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:55:42 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: Neat tool

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Ned Heite wrote:

> Is there a U. S. source? The manufacturer is Uni-Lite International,
> Redditch, England. I used mine last night for emergency repairs, and I'll
> never be without it again.

They are not exactly hard to find in the US, though that particular brand
might be.  Try Wal-mart or a camping store.  Aren't they a little frufru
for Series trucks, though?  I prefer a maglite stuck between the teeth.  I
have gotten soft and gotten a bite-able end piece though.  

David 

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:59:12 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: Throttle shaft breakage

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Richard Marsden wrote:

> Yep, been there, done that!

> LR Fasteners know all these little bits, but some are quite pricey, so
> beware!

80 cents, from Novers Rorth.  I don't remember if that was apiece or the
pair, but either way it isn't a hugely expensive bit.  The rod is about
$4, could have saved a bunch of work on the lathe.

David

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:04:40 +0000
Subject: Re: Throttle shaft breakage

I was thinking more of the arms.

Yes, the clips only cost me a few pence each.
I don't think mine had particularly worn come to think of it. (the springs
had aged though).

The actual linkages are only bent metal. Besides, my father enjoyed
himself!
(and the new ones are made out of posh (silver?) steel)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Subject: What is this button??
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:52:56 -0700

Question for the group.

I recently bought a 1979 SIII 109, 2.25 Diesel, with Sals 1ton rear, and
Heavy duty suspension.(grey market)

The vehicle runs increadibly well. There is a little smoking, but I'm not
worried yet. It only has 44K miles on it and has sat for most of the past
two years.
However!!! There is a switch on the center pillar of the dash that has a
read light. It sits just above the Hazard button. On the bottom edge of the
switch it reads "test" the light comes on at start-up and will not go off.
It has "flickered" on and off once or twice in the past three weeks. But
for the most part stays on.

What is it all about?????

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:21:26 -0500
Subject: Re: What is this button??

This sounds like the brake test and warning light setup on Euro Rovers with
dual brake masters. if that's on, you need to (it sounds like) reset the
system switch. I had a Volvo with almost the exact same setup - it was a
PITA even in a street car.

                    ajr

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:11:33 -0500
From: Michael_Lenaghan@cayennesoft.com (Michael Lenaghan)
Subject: Help with Series III

     I have just bought a 1972 Series III with only 38800 miles on it.
     I bought it from the original owner who has only put 6000 miles on it 
     in the last 20 years!! Since 1977 it has been used mainly for plowing 
     her driveway in the winter and was garaged the rest of the time. It 
     was last used in the winter of 1993. Bodywork, frame, bulkhead and 
     interior are in very good shape.
     
     I now have it in my garage at home and spent some time on Sunday and 
     yesterday getting it ready to try and start it. I bought new points, 
     condenser plugs, leads, distributor cap and fuel filter and installed 
     them all, cleaning and inspecting things as I went along.
     
     I took the top off the carburetor, the bowl of which was bone dry. I 
     cleaned out all of the sediment and took out the jets and cleaned 
     those as well. I hooked it all back up and went to the fuel pump to 
     prime it. Here is where I hit my first problem - I wasn't getting any 
     fuel. The glass sediment bowl remained empty. The fuel guage reads 
     that the tank is over half full. I finally tracked it down to the mesh 
     filter over the end of the fuel supply pipe in the tank being caked 
     solid. I cleaned it off and connected every thing back up. I was now 
     getting a healthy supply of fuel to the carb.
     
     The big moment had arrived - would it run? It started on the 3rd 
     attempt but initially sounded a little rough. With the choke fully on 
     it soon settled down and was running reasonably well. However any 
     attempt to open the choke, even just a little, resulted in the engine 
     dying. Unfortunately I had to pack in working on it for the day so 
     didn't have time to do any troubleshooting on this problem. It will be 
     next weekend before I have a chance to look at it again so I thought I 
     would ask for some advice in the meantime.
     
     This brings me to my questions.
     
     1. The fuel in the tank is 5 years old. I intend trying to empty the 
     tank and put fresh fuel in it. Would fuel this old cause any problems 
     if I just left it in the tank - if so what problems.
     
     2. What is the easiest way of removing the tank drain plug? Is there 
     any danger of damaging the tank trying to remove it?
     
     3. What are the things I should be looking out for with the Zenith 
     carb that might be causing the choke problem described above? Are 
     there any initial settings of the mixture and idle speed screws? The 
     carb is fitted with the "throttle prop system" and a solenoid fuel cut 
     off valve. Do these things cause any problems?
     
     Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me.
     
     Regards
     Mike
     72 Series III
     87 Range Rovers (2)

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:38:12 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: What is this button??

This is the brake servo test circuit which is mandatory here in Europe.

Basically you have a pressure switch on the servo, and a similar switch
at the valve on the opposite side of the motor, where the brake lines
split and run front and rear.

If either of these switches loses pressure, the red lamp in the test
switch lights, telling you that your brakes are faulty.

The switch itself just dummies a fault to test the lamp. It does not
test the circuit itself, but as this is failsafe, that shouldn't be a
problem.

The usual leaky pipes and sometimes leaky vacuum reservoir of the SIII
makes for repetitive blinking of this light, as does harsh braking which
temporarily "empties" the vacuum reserve" - this is irritating and
completly normal.

Add a vaccum servo pump and the light will go out for most of the time.

good luck

Adrian Redmond

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Help with Series III
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:25:48 -0800

Michael asks:

> 3. What are the things I should be looking out for with the Zenith 
     carb that might be causing the choke problem described above? Are 
     there any initial settings of the mixture and idle speed screws?
The 
     carb is fitted with the "throttle prop system" and a solenoid fuel
cut 
     off valve. Do these things cause any problems?<

Sounds like the engines running to lean.

After sitting for so long, the gaskets have probably dried up and are
leaking.  (Vacuum leaks)  

Get the engine idling as best you can and try spraying some carb cleaner
over the joints in the intake system - Carb to manifold, manifold to
head, around the vacuum advance pipe etc.  If the engine speeds up,
you've found a leak.  Try tightening up the manifold to head bolts.

Paul.

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:00:28 -0800
From: John Hong <jhong@best.com>
Subject: Trigger-fuge...was keep trigger...

<humanitarian mode on>
Fellow LROs...perhaps we should circle the wagons so to speak and help Dale
in his time of need by placing some artificially LOW offers for Tigger.
He could then return to SWMBO and say that in light of recent investments
in Tigger, it would not make financial "cents" to sell and that time should
be biden until a plushy mobile can be budgeted.

Might I probe what Mrs Dale's objections to the Series are?  Noise?  Heat?
Concern about rollover protection?  Image?
Perhaps some of these can be addressed?

Have you tried hypno-suggestion on her while she is sleeping?

<humanitarian mode off>

<kgb mode on>
Now Comrade Dale,  Scouts honor that you aren't using the Mrs as an excuse
to go plushy on us???
We have ways of getting to the truth!

Also, please elaborate on the wording "refuses to go camping and
off-roading with me in it."  
Will she go with you "out of it"?

We suspect she has performed hypno-suggestion on you while you sleep...
<kgb mode off>

Just  trying to help!

John "Hey Dushin, please send info on Rosie et al!" Hong

From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Keep Trigger
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 16:13:08 EST

Dale Avery, in a Moment of Weakness, Confessed:

****
Hello all!

I am selling Tigger, my 1973 SIII 88" Canvas Top.  SWMBO refuses to go
camping and off-roading with me in it.  But she did give me permission
to purchase a Range Rover as a replacement.
****

Hold it right there....do yourself a favor.  Get a new woman.  One
that likes the smell of 90 weight.  This one's no good.  She'll nag
you all your life.  Lay down the gauntlet.  It's Trigger with her 
or it's Trigger with that li'l lass over there (or it's Trigger with
Rosie and her five sisters).  No woman is worth selling your rover
for. Plenty more fish in the sea and some of them swim perfectly
well in mud.

Be Strong, mate,
rd/nige

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:52:43 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Romping on

To all those listers who attended Winter Romp thanks for contributing to
one of the best weekends I have had in a long time. 
 However my adventures didn't end there. I lost the brakes on Muddy just
past Bangor and had to drive back to Nova Scotia on the gear box and
handbrake.Talk about getting my attention! I wasn't a bit sleepy even at
3am. We landed safely though, rolling into the yard at 5am.

  Happy days      John and Muddy

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:31:51 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Seating tyre beads and TAS press day

Dave B, You mean I can get bonked by a Spanish wind lass? Almost any 
Spanish lass would do.

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:28:35 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Mechanics?

JB Kropp wrote:
> So I am now a proud owner of a '71 IIa!  I was wondering where the best
> place to take a rover in the Bay area (preferably East)?  It is a solid
> rig but need the trany rebuilt and a good tune up to start.  Any ideas

And just which Bay would that be? If it is the Bay of Fundy then I am
yer man!!!
     John and Muddy

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:25:26 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Help with Series III

Michael Lenaghan wrote:
>      I have just bought a 1972 Series III with only 38800 miles on it.
>      I bought it from the original owner who has only put 6000 miles on it
>      in the last 20 years!! Since 1977 it has been used mainly for plowing
>      her driveway in the winter and was garaged the rest of the time. It
>      was last used in the winter of 1993. Bodywork, frame, bulkhead and
>      interior are in very good shape.
>      I now have it in my garage at home and spent some time on Sunday and
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>      carb is fitted with the "throttle prop system" and a solenoid fuel cut
>      off valve. Do these things cause any problems?

The fuel problems are almost certainly caused by the old gas . I
wouldn't touch the drain plug but use a syphon to remove the old gas and
then fill with new. After a bit th problems should clear up. If not
suspect blocked jets. If after a while it starts to run very rich
suspect a hard O ring in the carb.
  John

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:32:41 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Neat tool

Con P. Seitl wrote:
> Ned Heite wrote:
> > For Christmas, Boss Lady gave me a neat gadget called a Uni-Lite, which
> > looks somewhat like eyeglsses, but with little flashlights at eyebrow
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
> > Europe.
> > Is there a U. S. source?
>  You can get them from the Snap=off man, Wally Mart, Mac Tac Tools and
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> batteries are a might expensive tho.
> Con Seitl

Yup I sold them in my Mac Tools days. One lad bought a set because His
wife wouldn't have the lights on in the bed room at certain critical
times!!! true story.

    John and Muddy

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:12:24 EST
Subject: Re: Help with Series III

I have drained my tank several times...the open end side of a wrench fits
nicely in the drain plug...just be sure to get a new metal washer (something
ridiculous like $1.00 from RN!)  and replace the old.  The only problem you
will have is disposing the gas...many an environmentalist takes a harsh view
on civilians draining/disposing of unwanted gas.  
Good luck,
J.S.
66IIA SWB SW

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:18:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Help with Series III

Re: Old gas:

I had a similar problem with the fuel on a motorbike I once owned. I
drained the tank and tossed the aged fuel into my snowblower to burn it up
- at which point the snowblower refused to run...

I drained it out of THAT, refilled with fresh gas to the 3/4 level, then
added 1/4 tank of the ancient fuel.

This ran, though a bit unhappily.

Moral of the story, drain the tank into a container and toss the gas into
your lawnmower/snowblower/weedwhacker/generator or whatever to dispose of
it. Small engines running at a constant speed are a lot happier with old
gas than new auto engines.

Of course, you could always mix in some acetone to get rid of the
fuel....and your valves and piston crowns.....<evil grin.....)

          aj"DON'T ADD ACETONE! IT'S A BAD IDEA!"r

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:04:35 EST
Subject: Re:  Re: Neat tool

In a message dated 2/17/98 1:51:35 PM, you wrote:

>Yup I sold them in my Mac Tools days. One lad bought a set because His
>wife wouldn't have the lights on in the bed room at certain critical
>times!!! true story.

See, that's what happens when the lad has to rebuild the tranny in his bedroom
in the dark. That's what you were talking about, right? ;-)

pat

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:10:58 EST
Subject: Re:  disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)

In a message dated 2/17/98 2:14:08 PM, you wrote:

>The only problem you
>will have is disposing the gas...many an environmentalist takes a harsh view
>on civilians draining/disposing of unwanted gas.

Drain it into a suitable container, label it "GAS" and *forget* it outside
your garage.

When you wake up the next day and look outside, it has been "disposed" of.

(Maybe it is just a Miami thing, but if it isn't locked down, it gets
borrowed/disposed of for you; oh yeah, also applies to Range Rovers here.)

pat
93  "one or two locks" 110

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:13:46 -0800

Better be careful.  The container might end up sitting outside of the
burned out remains of some church, with your fingerprints all over it!
;-)

Paul.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:21:24 EST
Subject: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...

Ok, here's the bit about no LR content:

       Yesterday, I drove by a Nat'l Guard armory and saw a way cool Unimog in
camo paint parked near the Oshkosh trucks (is it just as broken, I don't
know). It had a snow blade or bulldozer type blade on the front for when we
get snow here in Miami. Didn't know the NG used them. Does anyone know if the
NG gets rid of their equip't and how?

First useless sighting:

       At the Miami Boat Show, one or two power-boat manufacturers had LR
products hooked up to their boats-on-trailers. (the only vehicle maker "there"
was Chevy.)

Second useless sighting:

       Zodiac (inflatables) puts RRs in their catalogue.

Third useless sighting:

       Avon (also blow-up boats) has a CT Disco crossing a river on their raft
in their catalogue. Go Team Turkey!

Obligatory sighting question: "Was it anyone on the list?"  There, I'm done.

pat.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:39:17 EST
Subject: Re: disposing of gas (I meant *petrol*, ok.)

In a message dated 2/17/98 3:19:20 PM, Paul Quin wrote:

>Better be careful.  The container might end up sitting outside of the
>burned out remains of some church, with your fingerprints all over it!

Thanks, Paul, for looking out for me. That'll lead to my next advice: If
possible, use latex gloves when handling petrochemicals and other hazardous
chemicals to *prevent skin irritation*. And, try to use your ex-wife's new
husband's container.

pat "i don't advocate burning anything*" parsons
93  110

*well, maybe a politician or two, just to keep them on their toes...

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:43:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...

>Ok, here's the bit about no LR content:
>       Yesterday, I drove by a Nat'l Guard armory and saw a way cool Unimog in
>camo paint parked near the Oshkosh trucks (is it just as broken, I don't
>know). It had a snow blade or bulldozer type blade on the front for when we
>get snow here in Miami. Didn't know the NG used them. Does anyone know if the
>NG gets rid of their equip't and how?

The NG uses these things to dig trenches.  We used them for a VERY brief
time in the 82d Abn, these things suck.  Not the unimog, but the blade
thing on them.  The NG gets rid of equipment by auction.  This sounds great
huh??  A big fun auction...    problem is that they usually block the
vehicles in groups of 5 or more.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 98 15:42:47 EST
Subject: disposing of stinky old gas

>Moral of the story, drain the tank into a container and toss the gas into 
>your lawnmower/snowblower/weedwhacker/generator or whatever to dispose of 
>it. Small engines running at a constant speed are a lot happier with old 
>gas than new auto engines.

I recently acquired a 67 Volvo 122 that had sat for six or seven years.
I drained the gas and left it in a bucket in my backyard, far away from the 
house. Its still there. Sometimes the best rule for hazardous waste disposal is 
"out of sight, out of mind". 

DaveB  

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:21:46 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Re: Romping on

>To all those listers who attended Winter Romp thanks for contributing to
>one of the best weekends I have had in a long time.

Thanks to John and Bruce for a good time from this end. Too bad the snow
conditions held us up a bit, but I had fun.

> However my adventures didn't end there. I lost the brakes on Muddy just
>past Bangor and had to drive back to Nova Scotia on the gear box and
>handbrake.

Sounds like Muddy caught the same bug as ECR 1 did on Friday night (ripped
the rear brake lines off being winched off the powerline). I thought
driving back to Warren at midnight with only the gearbox and hand brake was
bad. I guess you hold the record now! ;-)

See ya!

From: Mike Smith,  EAST COAST ROVER CO.
*Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME (USA) 04864
207.594.8086 phone  207.594.8120 fax
http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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From: Rob Horstman <robh@molienergy.bc.ca>
Subject: General - Anybody there ?
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:03:43 -0800

Just curious if I'm making the trip... I am unable to see any new
messages at this point.

DNS Record change.... hope it works...

________________________________________________________________

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Email : robh@molienergy.bc.ca
Moli Energy (1990) Ltd.
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Subject: Re: General - Anybody there ?
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:11:21 -0800
From: "Jason B. Carroll" <carrollj@up.edu>

echo

On 2/17/98 2:03 PM , Rob Horstman wrote-

>Just curious if I'm making the trip... I am unable to see any new
>messages at this point.
>DNS Record change.... hope it works...
>________________________________________________________________
>Rob Horstman, Systems Administrator

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>              Visit us on the WEB  @  www.molienergy.bc.ca
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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:12:54 EST
Subject: bed liners

(not to be confused with rubber bedsheets)

Has anyone on the list used aftermarket spray-on type bedliners in their Land
Rover? I'm referring to products like Rhino Linings which is applied
commercially or Lava Liner which is a DIY two-part coating.

Looking for opinions or experiences with the stuff.

I'd like to use it because:

1. The LR carpeting back there is terrible.
2. Maybe it will insulate (heat & noise) a bit.
3. Protect floor.
4. Stop stuff from sliding around.

TIA,

pat "looking for projects" parsons
93  110

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:14:01 EST
Subject: Re:  General - Anybody there ?

...polo. ;-)

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:21:24 -0600
From: nlamon1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu
Subject: Re: D90 price

What exactly is a "tiuanna" taxi?

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:02:08 -0500
From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: Help with Series III

On idle position the fuel enters the carb. throat through a "pin" hole located
just below the accelerator butterfly (at the same height as the idle screw). On
acceleration the butterfly begins to open and uncovers two small "pin" holes
just above the idle drilling.( where the butterfly touches the carb throat)
These are the "progression ports " which help to richen the mixture slightly on
acceleration before the main jet kicks in. Both are supplied with fuel through
a vertical drilling which stops and turns to the horizontal plane at the idle
screw. They are both probably gummed up and by closing the choke butterfly you
are making the main jet do it`s thing .Solution is to clean out the drillings
and blow them out (no poking of wire) Unscrew the idle screw and you can spray
carb cleaner into the hole (watch your eyes).Keep in touch and we will guide
you through more info on carbs if necessary.
Your distributor is also different --- it is a vacuum retard type to suite all
the other stuff.
If its working leave it alone for now. It will take too long to explain it all
on this go round

Michael Lenaghan wrote:

>      I have just bought a 1972 Series III with only 38800 miles on it.
>      I bought it from the original owner who has only put 6000 miles on it
>      in the last 20 years!! Since 1977 it has been used mainly for plowing
>      her driveway in the winter and was garaged the rest of the time. It
>      was last used in the winter of 1993. Bodywork, frame, bulkhead and
>      interior are in very good shape.
>      I now have it in my garage at home and spent some time on Sunday and
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>      72 Series III
>      87 Range Rovers (2)

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:47:14 -0500
From: Dan & Sally Cantwell <dcantwel@cgo.wave.ca>
Subject: Re: bed liners
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SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:

> (not to be confused with rubber bedsheets)
> Has anyone on the list used aftermarket spray-on type bedliners in their Land
> Rover? I'm referring to products like Rhino Linings which is applied
> commercially or Lava Liner which is a DIY two-part coating.
> Looking for opinions or experiences with the stuff.
> I'd like to use it because:

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> 3. Protect floor.
> 4. Stop stuff from sliding around.

     I've got the Bullhide brand In the back of my full-size, and I can't say
enough good about it. It's been in place for about 1 1/2 years now, and it's had
gravel and dirt both shoveled out of the back of it and now marring of thr
surface. Nothing slides around in the back of it either. I don't know how well 
it
would insulate against the cold, but they put on 1/2" in the floor and 1/4" on
the sides although I imagine that you could go thicker in the sides if you
wanted(they put 1/2" on the tail gate as well).    Good luck,
                  Dan     "61 SII HT

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<P>SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>(not to be confused with rubber bedsheets)
<BR>Has anyone on the list used aftermarket spray-on type bedliners in
their Land
<BR>Rover? I'm referring to products like Rhino Linings which is applied
<BR>commercially or Lava Liner which is a DIY two-part coating.

<P>Looking for opinions or experiences with the stuff.

<P>I'd like to use it because:

<P>1. The LR carpeting back there is terrible.
<BR>2. Maybe it will insulate (heat &amp; noise) a bit.
<BR>3. Protect floor.
<BR>4. Stop stuff from sliding around.

<P><A HREF="http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/">&nbsp;</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've got the Bullhide brand In the back of my
full-size, and I can't say enough good about it. It's been in place for
about 1 1/2 years now, and it's had gravel and dirt both shoveled out of
the back of it and now marring of thr surface. Nothing slides around in
the back of it either. I don't know how well it would insulate against
the cold, but they put on 1/2" in the floor and 1/4" on the sides although
I imagine that you could go thicker in the sides if you wanted(they put
1/2" on the tail gate as well).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good luck,
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:26:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Fuel drain gasket substitute, was Help with Series III

...just be sure to get a new metal washer (something ridiculous like $1.00
from RN!)
The intake manifold gasket for forty horse VW engines is a good substitute;
its copper over something crushable. I still have plenty, cause every 1600 DP
engine I ever rebuilt yielded me two more from the extras in the gasket set.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1

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From: Kevin Sellitti <Kevinsel@gte.net>
Subject: LRO or LRW contact info
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:06:55 -0500

Anyone where I can write to get a subscription to Land Rover World or Land 
Rover Owner? Is one Mag better than the other? Does either have a Website?
						Thanks

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From: Kevin Sellitti <Kevinsel@gte.net>
Subject: RE: No LR content, and a useless sighting or two...
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:04:30 -0500

       >Yesterday, I drove by a Nat'l Guard armory and saw a way cool >Unimog in
>camo paint parked near the Oshkosh trucks (is it just as broken, I don't
>know). It had a snow blade or bulldozer type blade on the front for when >we
>get snow here in Miami. Didn't know the NG used them. Does anyone >know if the
>NG gets rid of their equip't and how?

US Military Disposes of everything through the Defense Reutilization and 
Marketing Service (DRMS). Go to http://www.drms.dla.mil/ for more info.
I did a quick search of past sales for Unimogs. Didn't find any.

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:32:48 -0800
From: Dale Avery <davery@ior.com>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Russell Dushin said:
> Hold it right there....do yourself a favor.  Get a new woman.  One
> that likes the smell of 90 weight.  This one's no good.  She'll nag
> you all your life.  Lay down the gauntlet.  It's Trigger with her
> or it's Trigger with that li'l lass over there (or it's Trigger with
> Rosie and her five sisters).  No woman is worth selling your rover
> for. Plenty more fish in the sea and some of them swim perfectly
> well in mud.
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> Be Strong, mate,
> rd/nige
Then Peter added: 

> I agree,
>         Don't do it! Next she'll "let"  (make) you have a BMW!
> It's a slippery slope that only a Land Rover can climb. Consider the
> Land Rover a sincerity test of your relationship. It took alot of women
> before I found the right one ;-).  Now I have 4 Land Rovers. Life can be
> good.

Two others added similar statements....

Well, I read them to SWMBO, and we both howled with laughter!  But,
sorry to tell you folks,  Tigger still has to go.  SWMBO has given me
better mileage (25 years so far), is a better ride (you can figure that
one out yourselves), has gotten me out of a lot of tough spots (yes, a
lot of wenching, ah, I mean winching), and is cheaper (almost) to
operate!

Tigger is still on the block. I hope to have more photos up on the
website of him tomorrow.  Anyone know of a good '92 RR for sale??

Sincerely,

Dale

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:12:28 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Looking for a Used Winch 

Hi All,
 Well my plans to do my frame over is moving forward already & I was
dreaming.  Only to find I am wanting a used winch for the front of the
109.  I have some time & can repair one if I find one.  Does any one
have a winch they would like to sell???  Please email me directly.

Regards,
  Rob Davis_Chicago

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From: Craig Murray <craigm@bcn.com.au>
Subject: Oil Pressure when going down hills
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:11:07 +1000

Hi all,
	I have a 2.25 diesel, and I was wondering if anyone out there
had figured a way to stop a 2.25 from loosing oil presure when going
down, reasonable steep hills, I am paranoid that one day I am going to
come across a long enough steep hill to sieze my motor, one of my
friends has already siezed his 2.25 petrol.  Any wisdom on this would be
greatly appreciated.

=================================================
Craig Murray			craigm@bcn.com.au
1955 86" 2.25 Diesel, Difflock, Snorkel, PTO Winch. (Off Roader)
1951 80" (Potential Show Vehicle)

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From: Craig Murray <craigm@bcn.com.au>
Subject: Thin shaft Transfer case intermediate Bearings
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:15:46 +1000

Hi all,
	I have running in my 86" a thin shaft transfer case, after
having the intermediate bearings go in it on the weekend, totally
destroying the transfer case, is there anyway I can put larger bearings
in for the intermediate shaft, as I have been told that they do not like
a lot of high speed work.  I know that the later thick shaft transfer
cases do not have the same problem, but the low range reduction on these
cases is not as low as the earlier transfer cases.
Is it possible to machine out the intermediate gear is basically what I
am asking, and by how much can you????

=================================================
Craig Murray			craigm@bcn.com.au
1955 86" 2.25 Diesel, Difflock, Snorkel, PTO Winch. (Off Roader)
1951 80" (Potential Show Vehicle)

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:44:58 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Pressure when going down hills

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Craig Murray wrote:

> Hi all,
 	I have a 2.25 diesel, and I was wondering if anyone out there
 had figured a way to stop a 2.25 from loosing oil presure when going
 down, reasonable steep hills, I am paranoid that one day I am going to
 come across a long enough steep hill to sieze my motor, one of my
 friends has already siezed his 2.25 petrol.  Any wisdom on this would be
> greatly appreciated.

Not sure if the diesel is the same as the petrol, but with the petrol
there is an o-ring on the pick-up tube that leaks and causes a pressure
drop.  You might replace that.  It does help to have the sump full--to the
top mark on the dipstick, not just the one labeled low.  

David

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From: Craig Murray <craigm@bcn.com.au>
Subject: FW: Oil Pressure when going down hills
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:50:26 +1000

David Scheidt wrote:
>Not sure if the diesel is the same as the petrol, but with the petrol
>there is an o-ring on the pick-up tube that leaks and causes a pressure
>drop.  You might replace that.  It does help to have the sump full--to
the
>top mark on the dipstick, not just the one labeled low.  

I always have the oil filled to the full mark, and I do not believe that
it is the o-ring, I believe that it is the pump pick not being in the
oil, as the pickup is right at the back of the motor, and the problem
only starts to occur when heading down hill in the degree of 35+
degrees.

=================================================
Craig Murray			craigm@bcn.com.au
1955 86" 2.25 Diesel, Difflock, Snorkel, PTO Winch. (Off Roader)
1951 80" (Potential Show Vehicle)

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From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@norsk-data.co.uk>
Subject: Unsubscribing from the list - I'm changing email
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:08:12 -0000

Hi all,

Call me Mr. Stupid if you want but I'm having trouble unsubscribing from
this email list. I'm moving to another job and this is company email so
I have to leave the list until I get another email account. How do I
unsubscribe please?

Thanks in advance,

Andy.

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