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1 john cranfield [john.cra30Re: How to change a flat tire?
2 glenn.rees@PAREURO.COM 26The.Big.50@Shugbourgh.Hall
3 Ralph N Bradt [rnbradt@e12Jetting the Weber 34ICH
4 Semih Bingol [semih@leo.18Re: A question to the diesel gurus (and probably novices)
5 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd35Re: The.Big.50@Shugbourgh.Hall
6 Semih Bingol [semih@leo.29Re: Another engine question (No LR content)
7 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml12RE: How to change a flat tire?
8 "T.D.I.Stevenson" [gbfv026Mixing wheels and axles
9 SPYDERS@aol.com 20Re: Mixing wheels and axles
10 Solihull@aol.com 21Re: How to change a flat tire?
11 Floris Houniet [houniet@6unsubscribe
12 Gavin Smith [GavinFSmith45Overdrive Ratio
13 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@nr35The LROA email list or How a Fifth Columnist has infiltrated us!
14 "David Cockey" [dcockey@10Re: overdrive ratio?
15 Hank Rutherford [ruthrfr29Re:Rings
16 Hank Rutherford [ruthrfr18Cam Specs
17 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@ri15Re: Need help
18 Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuart@e20Re: Mixing wheels and axles
19 "Ron Beckett" [hillman@b41How to change a flat tire?


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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:08:21 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: How to change a flat tire?

R. Wade Hughes wrote:
> Please, stop laughing!
> No, seriously, can one replace an inner tube oneself? must be able to,
> because I saw in the Brownchurch price list a tire iron-tube type
> listed. Now I know I have a set of two little pry bars at home for a
> bicycle tire, so that you use one to lift the bead up, hook the other
> end on a spoke, then use the other, etc. So I figure one needs two pry
> bars (or gooseneck nailpullers?) to lift the bead over a std LR rim.
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> Stepside, so Ive not seen it done.
> Has anybody? Like to be able to in a jam in the bush.
 
You can do it with tubeless too. After you break down the bead make sure
that the bead on the back side of the tire is down in the well of the
rim before you attempt to lever the top bead up as well as pushing the
bead into the well opposite where you are going to start levering.
  Start to dismount the tire opposite the valve stem but also push to
stem and tube back inside the tire. When you put the tire back finish up 
at the valve stem.
  Before installing the new tube put enough air in it to allow it to
take shape so you can see just where the valve is as it will be off
set.  Then let the air out again to get inside the tire.
 To avoid pinching the tube with the tire irons you can tap the bead
back over the rim with a hammer while standing on the tire.
      John and Muddy.

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From: glenn.rees@PAREURO.COM
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:22:47 +0000
Subject: The.Big.50@Shugbourgh.Hall 

     To all Series one aficionados
    
     How many of you out there from the South East / Home Counties
     /south of the Thames area, are going to the Big 50 Bash at
     Shugbourgh Hall on June 27.  It would seem that various
     "Runs" are being organised from the South West and the East.
    
     How about one from "The South" ?
    
     It could also include anyone coming in from Europe via channel
     ports. (reply direct as not subscribed to main list)
    
     I will probably be driving up on Friday 26th June from the
     north Surrey area with several other locals, but could
     arrange a suitable gathering point along the route.
    
     For the 40th Rally in Wales we managed to get 10 vehicles
     together, and some of us are still speaking to one another!
    
     Cheers, Glenn

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:48:32 MST
From: Ralph N Bradt <rnbradt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Jetting the Weber 34ICH

Thanks for the thoughts on re-jetting my Weber for better mileage at altitude. I had
Weber 32/36 DGV on the last carburetted Toy PU I had and really loved it, but putting one on
the Rover is a project for sometime down the road. Guess the first step is buy a fistful of likely
jets. I've found them for $5 each locally (Denver) or $3.50 each on the 'Net
(www.webercarburetors.com). Any better suggestions?

Ralph

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:23:28 +0300 (EET)
From: Semih Bingol <semih@leo.ee.hun.edu.tr>
Subject: Re: A question to the diesel gurus (and probably novices)

Hi,

Since I don't know the details about the previously
mentioned underpowered truck, I have printed all the 
responses and will give them to my friend who is
doing the restoration. If the problem turns out to be 
worthy enough to be added to the collective memory of
the list, I'll post it later.

Thanks everybody!

Semih Bingol
74 SIII SWB 2.25 petrol

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:36:39 +0000
Subject: Re: The.Big.50@Shugbourgh.Hall

First I've heard of it - could you tell me more, or point me in the right
direction?  (LRO or whatever)

Cheers,

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

glenn.rees@pareuro.com on 02/10/98 01:22:47 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  The.Big.50@Shugbourgh.Hall

     To all Series one aficionados
     How many of you out there from the South East / Home Counties
     /south of the Thames area, are going to the Big 50 Bash at
     Shugbourgh Hall on June 27.  It would seem that various
     "Runs" are being organised from the South West and the East.
     How about one from "The South" ?
     It could also include anyone coming in from Europe via channel
     ports. (reply direct as not subscribed to main list)
     I will probably be driving up on Friday 26th June from the
     north Surrey area with several other locals, but could
     arrange a suitable gathering point along the route.
     For the 40th Rally in Wales we managed to get 10 vehicles
     together, and some of us are still speaking to one another!
     Cheers, Glenn

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:05:59 +0300 (EET)
From: Semih Bingol <semih@leo.ee.hun.edu.tr>
Subject: Re: Another engine question (No LR content)

To Al and Ron:
I am located in Turkey, therefore vapor lock may be the
source of the problem. The pump is bolted to the side of
the engine block but somehow does not get very hot. Just
to make sure, I'll pour cold water (or beer :)) over it 
next time the problem occurs. 
The fuel pump frequently gives up (this is my third pump).
I'll have to have the pressure tested I believe.

To Charles:
While trying to diagnose the problem I had torn apart the 
fuel filter and fitted an aftermarket one. I'll attend that
as well.

To Jim:
I really didn't know about the second fuel filter. Thank you
for the removal instructions. Since everything else you mention
seems fine (except for the fuel pump) I'll remove and clean
this filter immediately.

Thanx for all responses.

Semih Bingol
74 SIII SWB 2.25 petrol

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: How to change a flat tire?
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:41:52 -0800

I've done it on a wheel off of a Fiat X1/9.  The center hole on the rim
was too small to fit over our tire machine, so we had to change the tire
manually.  It's the same process as changing a bike tire, only your
working with rubber 10 times as thick...so use bigger tire irons!

Paul.

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From: "T.D.I.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Mixing wheels and axles
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:24:53 -0000

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Ian wrote..............
I'm looking for a definitive answer on mixing wheels and axels...
I've a 109 with standard LWB rims and the turning circle is cr@p.
I'd like a definitive list of which rims can go on which axels, and what
effect the combination has on the turning circle (I'm wanting less - what a
suprise!)
---------------------------------------------

I have some Disco steel rims with 750x16 SAGs. I needed to increase the
length of the steering stops to stop them fouling at full lock on a 90,
compared to the setting required for normal 90 rims.
I think the 130 wheels (possibly the same as the wheels fitted to 1 tonners
an FC's (not 101's)?) have more offset to the outside than standard lwb
rims.
Tom Stevenson
SNL Mussel Project
University Marine Biological Station, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel: 01475 530581  Fax: 01475 530601  Email: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
Web page: http://www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Marine/

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:42:44 EST
Subject: Re:  Mixing wheels and axles

In a message dated 2/10/98 12:29:28 PM, you wrote:

>I think the 130 wheels (possibly the same as the wheels fitted to 1 tonners
>an FC's (not 101's)?) have more offset to the outside than standard lwb
>rims.

NAS 110s have the 130 wheels and I believe the offset is 2.25" and the width
is 6.5". standard LWB wheels are 5.5 (?) with less offset.

This thread gets my vote for the answers and data finding their way onto
someone's FAQ page.

pat.
93  110

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:13:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: How to change a flat tire?

On a similar note, Harbor Freight Tools just rolled the price back on their
manual tire changer to fifty bucks, so I got one. This is the same one they
had offered for sixty, seventy or eighty dollars at other times over the past
two years; chinese manufacture, no frills, works great if you have a slab to
bolt it down to. JC Witless tries to get $500 for the same thing.
The usual disclaimers apply.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 22:42:21 +0200
From: Floris Houniet <houniet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: unsubscribe

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:26:03 -0500
From: Gavin Smith <GavinFSmith@compuserve.com>
Subject: Overdrive Ratio

Message text written by INTERNET:Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:08:34 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: overdrive ratio?

What is the ratio of the Fairy overdrive?  I think it .73/1, but I can't
find it anywhere.  I am trying to work out speed in gears and need to kno=
w
this.

Thanks,
David/mr. sinclair
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:08:34 -0500 (EST)
=46rom memory, my Superwinch (The heir to the Fairey Throne), overdrive r=
atio
is 1.25 (or 0.8) if  you want to go the inverse way.

Dont know why you want to work out speeds though, the speedo works off th=
e
drive shaft so it is still as accurate as it always wasn't. Also even wit=
h
a 202 cu in Holden motor I can't pull as many revs in overdrive as I can =
in
4th direct. So I don't get a true 25% increase in speed.

An interesting excersise though, I once worked out all the ratios from
low/low/first to Hi/Hi/fourth (The whole 16 of them) just to see what was=

involved in using them all. Believe me, working them out on a spreadsheet=

was easy, I never did try to use them in practice!!!

Cheers

Gavin Snith
ZL2ACT
66 88" IIA
202 6 pack
Superwinch O/D

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:12:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: The LROA email list or How a Fifth Columnist has infiltrated us!

	Oh, where to start.  It seems that our western friends, LROA, have
decided to put together a mailing list to rival the Mendo_recce list
(another western based mailing list for discussing events, etc.  A friend
forwarded a copy to me & it proved to be most interesting (yeah, I am in
theory a member of LROA, but they tend to keep a low profile with me at
times, hence not being invited to play... :-)  But on to the fun bits! 

	If you look closely at a message, it appears to be from
lroamail@landrover.net, but the reply to is lroamail@unimog.net!
         ^^^^^^
	Does this mean that our Michael Carridine is a traitor?  The real
host appears to be an Unimog one!  Oh woe is us.  To have a Land Rover
related list dependent upon those foul Germans, the Unimog owners!  Such a
travesty is almost like the Gemrmans buying up Rover (Oh, they did that
already... Guess this is phase two.  "First we take Manhatten, then we
take Berlin")  Wanna bet some config files are going to get changed
pronto?  ROFL!

	Of course, is this list still pure?  Time to check those elusive
headers <checking>  Yeah, Bill's still clean... :-)  Oh well, time to
check the medal standings... :-)

	TTFN from the Great White North, er "Red Menace" according to the
LA Times! 

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Subject: Re: LROA Meeting 2/14/98

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From: "David Cockey" <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: overdrive ratio?
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:15:29 -0500

>From "Autocar" 7 Dec 74: Overdrive ratio is 0.782:1

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:24:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com>
Subject: Re:Rings

John M. Baker wrote:
> I am in the process of undoing a number screw-ups by the "mechanic" who
> rebuilt the block of my 2.25. Fortunately before assembling it further I
> decided to do a little investigating work and discovered that tappet
> slides had been installed incorrectly, the oil hole on the con rods was
> facing the wrong way, and the cam gear bolt was finger tight! Which leads
> to a question.
> The pistons are by Hepolite. Some of the compression rings
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> John M. Baker
> Bangkok

John,
   As far as ring markings go, dimples usually go up, and steps go as
follows: If it's inner it's upper, and if it's outer it's downer. Grooves
(usually bevels, actually) at the inner diameter go up. Grooves (usually a
step) at the outer diameter face down. As in most cases, crude sexual
examples can assist an otherwise poor memory. Apologies to those I may have
offended.
   
                                        Hank Rutherford

                                " Thin skins are for pudding"
                                                           

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:33:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com>
Subject: Cam Specs

    Does anyone out there in Rover Land know the lift and duration
specifications for a 2.5 liter petrol cam? What are the performance
differences? Is it worth the trouble/expense?
    I am compiling information on cylinder head modifications for 2.25
petrol engines. (head thickness/chamber volume/ pushrod lengths/etc). Is
anyone interested in seeing this in a digestible format? 
    Is there any data out there on head modifications such as chamber
re-shaping, porting, etc?
You can post me direct to save embarrassment and wavelength.

                                Ruthrfrd@borg.com

 

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:14:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net>
Subject: Re: Need help

At 11:20 AM 2/1/98 -0800, you wrote:
>7.	How do you tell if the brakes are shot?
 
Drive it to the store.  If you get your groceries, pay the cashier, then
park the rover, you probably need new brakes.  8^)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger@sinasohn.com                           that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:01:44 +0000
From: Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Mixing wheels and axles

SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:
> NAS 110s have the 130 wheels and I believe the offset is 2.25" and the width
> is 6.5". standard LWB wheels are 5.5 (?) with less offset.

Does less offset mean that the inner edge of the rim is closer to the
chassis, ie - there is more of a turning circle?
-- 

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)
    Medicine & Veterinary medicine Support Team,
    University Computing Services, 
    Edinburgh University. 
    Phone: +44 131 650 3027

Personal Web pages: <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: How to change a flat tire?
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:27:30 +1100

R. Wade Hughes:

>No, seriously, can one replace an inner tube oneself? must be able to,

Wade, yes it is possible and, in fact, I've become reasonably adept at it
recently.  I don't quite a bit of changing to get lots of practice before
goling bush.  I use two flat 24" tyre levers, and plenty of soapy water.
But to explain it ain't easy.  The trick is to get the tyre bead broken and
then to get it down into the well in the wheel.  This allows you to pull the
bead up over the rim with the tyre levers and to work your way around.

Note, if you are repairing a tube, to get it out you will have to break both
the front and back beads.

Breaking the bead off the rim is the hardest part and even that is easy with
the right tools.  I use the Aussie-made R&R Bead Breaker and I learned how
to do it all by buying their video tape for the bead breaker.  The video
goes into the whole box and dice of removing and refitting tyres etc.  The
manufacturer's written instructions were woefully bad so I rewrote them for
him mid-last year.

With the right tyre levers, it is really fairly easy and you don't need a
mallet so you don't damage the tyre bead.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia

'86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual

Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman
for Hillman and Rover

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