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1 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit27The CAR GUYS
2 PETER KASKAN [PKASKAN@cl16Ammeter Reads Negative
3 "Mitch" [mstockdale@pop312Weber Jetting
4 Lenny Warren [lwarren@ze23Landy Web page..
5 john cranfield [john.cra27Re: Ammeter Reads Negative
6 "William L. Leacock" [wl29[not specified]
7 "William L. Leacock" [wl11TC
8 David Scheidt [david@inf25Re: Weber Jetting
9 masmith [masmith@barint.19landrover conversions
10 SPYDERS@aol.com 16Re: Weber Jetting
11 "C. Paul Patsis" [cpaulp15Leaking sun roof
12 DONOHUEPE@aol.com 28LR Milage & High Altitude
13 "JEFFREY BABUKA" [JBABU12southern tier NY rover club
14 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd42Re: capillary oil temp
15 West [GebietWest@ATELCO.60RE: A question to the diesel gurus (and probably novices)


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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 10:18:25 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: The CAR GUYS

How many were listening Saturday morning when the Car Guys on NPR suggested
that a woman sell her 89 Range Rover for $11,000?

The woman complained that her husband wanted her to trade it for a J**p
because he couldn't fit into the small accommodations of her Range Rover.
Then the Cambridge brothers suggested that Range Rover is a vehicle of only
middling quality. The caller described a few minor defects in her
newly-acquired vehicle that the dealer had fixed with relative ease, but
then apparently thought that her running out of gas was a curse from
Roverdom, caused by the alleged poor gas mileage.

There is no accounting for bad taste.         :-}

                                           Wool Camp in Iceland
    _____   Check out Icelandic wool:      May 15-22: Wives knit
___(_____)  http://www.dmv.com/~iceland    and take classes in
|1969 Land\_===__         Come to          explore wilderness,
|  ___Rover   ___|o       Wool Camp        hiking and motoring in
|_/ . \______/ . ||       in Iceland!      the mountain valleys.

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 12:58:21 -0500 (EST)
From: PETER KASKAN <PKASKAN@clarku.edu>
Subject: Ammeter Reads Negative

	Hi all - a few months ago I did a ground conversion and put in a Lucas 
A1811 alternator in my 1965 IIA (Ex-MoD). With my generator system - the
ammeter showed that the battery was charging. After I installed the alt., it
would only show how much current was being drawn on the system - it was always 
negative - (I did reverse the three wires at the back of it.). Since the car 
ran much better than with the generator, I assumed all was fine, and it was 
for a few months...
	Now my alternator is baked. I have occasionally used 35 amps total -
from the "43amp" alternator, but I didn't think that this would be too much
for it. Is it? Are these problems somehow related?
Thanks for your advice - Peter Kaskan

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From: "Mitch" <mstockdale@pop3.mho.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:59:04 +0000
Subject: Weber Jetting

I've just recently moved, and the new residence is at about 8250 ft 
+/-500, and of course the power on my SII has suffered considerably, 
Does any one have a source for jets for the Weber 1bbl.  Would 
certainly appreciate it.  

Mitch and the Red Dinosaur

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 22:46:00 +0000
From: Lenny Warren <lwarren@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Landy Web page..

Hi there,

Sorry about the limited Landy content,

I've put a piccy of my ser 3 on my new web page, ALSO a picture of a "Dredd
Shed" if you're interested.

It's my first go at a web page, so tell me what you think about the page as
well as my Landy!!

Thanks..

Catch you later,
Lenny...

                  Lenny Warren, Strathaven, Scotland.             
                  e-mail: lwarren@zetnet.co.uk  
                  www: http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/8160

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:50:29 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Ammeter Reads Negative

PETER KASKAN wrote:
>         Hi all - a few months ago I did a ground conversion and put in a Lucas
> A1811 alternator in my 1965 IIA (Ex-MoD). With my generator system - the
> ammeter showed that the battery was charging. After I installed the alt., it
> would only show how much current was being drawn on the system - it was always
> negative - (I did reverse the three wires at the back of it.). Since the car
> ran much better than with the generator, I assumed all was fine, and it was
> for a few months...
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> for it. Is it? Are these problems somehow related?
> Thanks for your advice - Peter Kaskan

 What do you mean by baked? There are a number of things that go wrong
with alternators and each had a different cause. A 35 amp continuous
load could be too much for a 43 amp alternator but  failure can be
caused by things like electric welding or bad batteries or incorrect
boosting of other vehicles.
 To get your ampmeter to read as it used to you will have to change the
wireing a bit so that the meter is connected to the battery "down
stream" of all the other connections. 
  Clear as mud !!
   John

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:35:13 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>

nlamon wtrites :-

2. Set the Camshaft Keyway to 2:00
	NOTE: This being an EARLY II-A engine, there is NO "P" mark, as
	stated in the Haynes manuel.  All it has is an Inner Sproket	
	Spline-to-Camshaft Keyway mark.  Using as reference the
	mechanical drawing in the Haynes manuel that depicts the location
	of the outer "P" Mark in relation to the Inner Spline Mark, I
	projected the Inner Spline Mark to the corresponding tooth then 
	counted back (counterclockwise) eleven (11) teeth and marked that 
	tooth "P."  I then aligned this mark/tooth with the bolt
	hole in the block, as instructed in the haynes manuel.

Does anyone see anything wrong with this set up?

 Yes, everything.
 The later set up utilizes parts which have been machined to datums, your
older parts have not.
 I tried the reverse on my recent rebuild, I have a spare timing wheel with
the P mark so I followed the instructions for the later engine, then checked
it by the old method and found that the timing was way off. I recommend that
you use a dial indicator to set the timing as indicated in the LR manual,
Haynes manuals  are  %$#@ and not very accurate,
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:38:35 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: TC

Subject: Twin choke=twin carb

 Twin carb = twin choke, Twin choke does not always = twin carb.
 Single carbs can have twin chokes or even 4 chokes, ala Webber Holley etc.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:06:11 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: Weber Jetting

On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Mitch wrote:

> I've just recently moved, and the new residence is at about 8250 ft 
> +/-500, and of course the power on my SII has suffered considerably, 
> Does any one have a source for jets for the Weber 1bbl.  Would 
> certainly appreciate it.  

Call around and see if your local auto parts places can get them.  Unless
you find a place that does lots of Weber work, you won't find one that has
jets in stock.  If there is a "speed and custom" (aka hot-rod) shop, they
probably can get them for you.  I'd be suprised if your favorite
Land-Rover parts place couldn't get them for you.  Failing that, you can
get them one of the official Weber importers.

david

> Mitch and the Red Dinosaur
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:38:05 -0500
From: masmith <masmith@barint.on.ca>
Subject: landrover conversions

hi everyone im looking for more info regarding tho scotties
conversions!.the conversion that i have at the moment mates a chevy
engine to a  landrover gear box.is this a scotties conversion? it was
obtained by me from a scrapper in 1990.the conversion was put into the
scraper in 1978,and run for one year,it was a inline six cylinder
chev.the main reason im asking this is because im looking to trade it
for the conversion that adapts a chev transmission to the rover transfer
box{ my years in the military has given me a bad clutch leg},therefore
im forced to either buy a north american 4x4 {when hell freezes over}or
convert my 67 109 to a automatic.if anyone out there is interested in a
trade let me know {masmith@barint.on.ca}   

tony smith borden on. canada 
and the moneypit

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:23:41 EST
Subject: Re: Weber Jetting

Look for an ad for a place called Fast Freddies in an issue of VW Trend or
Fast VWs or other similar magazine. They deal exclusively with Weber carbs and
really were a big help to me when I had to dial in a pair of twin-chokes
(there's that term again). That was at least four years ago, so maybe my info
and recommendation has expired.

No connections, etc.

pat
93  110

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From: "C. Paul Patsis" <cpaulp@hevanet.com>
Subject: Leaking sun roof
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:33:41 -0800

Has anyone run into the problem of a leaking sun roof on a Defender 90SW? 
I've been back to the dealer on several occasions without satisfactioin. 
The prior owner also toold me that he had the sunroof replaced. Would 
appreciate any advice or info if anyone knows of a fix for this problem. 
Thanks

Paul Patsis
1995 D 90 SW
cpaulp@hevanet.com

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:09:56 EST
Subject: LR Milage & High Altitude

Ralph Bradt wrote of poor milage with a weber carburetted 88.  

Ralph:

Sounds poor to me too.  At higher altitudes, you need a lean mixture to offset
the reduced air pressire found at altitude.  Most carburetted cars are built
to run at or near seal evel, so we need to modify them by using a main jet
with a smaller orifice.  

One of the best ways to find the right jet is to work with a friendly garage
that has exhaust gas analysis instrumentation.  Show up with a collection of
different size jets to experiment with.  A side benefit is that you will end
up with a well tuned engine that should meet emission requirements (essential
in Denver). Weber jets can often be found at speed shops, and VW parts houses.

With a well tuned 2.25 engine in the heavy Dormobile (with Rochester carb) I
can ususlly get 16 to 17 mpg on the road.

Good Luck,

Paul Donohue
Denver

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From: "JEFFREY  BABUKA" <JBABUKA@prodigy.net>
Subject: southern tier NY rover club
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:21:49 -0800

anyone from the southern tier of NY or northern pa interested in forming a
rover club?	
please reply to jbabuka@prodigy.net

jeff
1971 series 2a

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:30:33 +0000
Subject: Re: capillary oil temp

When I was after one of these, the place I phoned up said they were too
delicate to put in the post, and to "pop around". My thinking was that if
it was too delicate to put in the post, what
were the chances of me being able to fit it without breaking!!

I went for the electrical option, although this is meant to be less
accurate.
The electrical (civvie) temp gauges and senders are the same as the oil.
Well, I found the
sender was a little narrower, but some PTFE and orange gunge made a good
seal.
If you you choose this route, a 24v system will need a little voltage
regulator  (which I built myself).

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

marijn@multiweb.net on 02/07/98 11:12:52 AM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  capillary oil temp

Anyone have a *working* oil-temp. gauge (capillary type) for
a ex-MOD SIII ?
Some people cut off the cap.line, making the whole thing
useless, -so I am told-.
Reasonable offers (incl.posting stamps) to  :
 marijn@multiweb.net
Yep, thats in The Netherlands.
Bye all,

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From: West <GebietWest@ATELCO.DE>
Subject: RE: A question to the diesel gurus (and probably novices)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:30:44 +0100

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:45:41 +0300 (EET)
From: Semih Bingol <semih@leo.ee.hun.edu.tr>
Subject: A question to the diesel gurus (and probably novices)

Hello all,

A friend of mine has restored a 2.25 diesel 109. He has encountered
a problem and asked me if I can offer any advice. Since I am totally
ignorant about diesels, I am consulting the list for some hints.

The problem with the truck is that it behaves as if the engine is
extremely underpowered, somewhat like 20 to 30 hp. She can't climb
a very light incline with 2'nd high and 3'rd low. My petrol 2.25
can easily climb the same road section in 4'th high. A while ago
somebody had said that the 0-100km acceleration in diesel LR's is
measured with the calendar. With this truck it is literally true,

[oli] The Landrover 109 Diesel can=B4t reach 100 Km/h so the 0-100km
acceleration is marked with  " - "
[oli]( It=B4s only possibel downhill with the Police behind you and
overdrive fitted)

because you can't shift into fourth even on flat road sections.
My friend is clearly making a blunder here, but what?

The engine has been rebuilt and the injectors have been tested and
cleaned
professionally. Engine sound is normal, idle is OK.  Lucas CAV is
inscribed on the injection pump, so that is a potential problem source.
He has actually tested the truck with two Lucas pumps but the
behaviour has not changed. Also he (and I) don't know what the
valve clearances should be. Any info on these two items will be
appreciated. Apart from these two, what else might be causing the
above problem and what to check next?

[oli] is the full throttle screw (on the pump) correct adjusted. Have
you checked that the
[oli] fuel system is free and not blocked ? (for example with a direct
connected jerrycan ?)

Best regards,

Semih Bingol
74 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol

       Oliver Gottlob
       ATELCO Computer
	 1976 Landrover 109 Diesel 2,25 l  (has one time reached
100km/h)

       fon (+) 2924 99 4315  fax: (+) 2924 99 4481  freecall: 0130 11 =
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