1948-1998 Land Rover's 50th Anniversary
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From: "John C. Hinkle" <defender110@email.msn.com> Subject: Craddock 101's for kit truck Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:03:12 -0600 I called Craddock in mid December and they had crated (by the military) 101's that they had aquired from the military at auction. Some have no engines, some have no axles, and all are soft tops I believe. The cost quoted me was 1500 pounds sterling for one without engine or axles. Shipping quote to Dallas was 1800 pounds sterling. At that point you could then find some Range Rover axles which would give you a coil spring suspension and disc brakes(old article in LRW). And for you engine and drivetrain, you could go 3.9 L rover or Cummings diesel or whatever. Then you have the ultimate kit truck. John Hinkle MD (Chris) '93 NAS Defender 110 #131 '94 NAS Defender 90 #132 '97 NAS Defender 90 #837 ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:48:22 -0800 From: Dave Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca> Subject: Sound deadening and Uncle Roger's Question I bought the sound deadening panels advertised in J.C Whitney, but I got them locally. They really do work. They are about a foot square and very dense and kind of , well rubbery! They have a sticky side and a non sticky side and you peel off the paper backing and stick them on. I put two packs in my doors on the 88 and they stopped the "oil canning" and rattle. I will relate at the end how I decided to do this. The biggest difference I found in my noise level was when I installed a heavy loading dock rubber mat in the rear tub of my 88. It is about 7/16 thick and is like conveyor belt material. I cut it to size and it both protects and cuts the noise. I also made blace leatherette door and wall panels just like the OEM Land Rover supplied, my old elephant hide ones were coming apart. I installed a roof liner and my last plan as I mentioned a few weeks ago on the net is to install the aluminium foil covered dense foam under the covers I have made and especially in the roof to keep the heat off. My Rover is used hard but I keep it in top shape. Uncle Roger asked about a picture of the machine. Well before I started with all the little things, there was a picture on a WWW spot the Jimmy somebody had, Jimmyy or Jimmyp. Someone will remember, I sent it when we all thought there was going to be a Land Rover Canlener a few years back. I will take another this summer with the safari rack, antennas, pump, generator and radio room are all installed around Ham Radio Field Day sometime about June and maybe Roger or me if I find out how will scan it in. Mark Perry from our local newpaper might have some lead on how to do it, he is on the net here with his Land Rover. My PTO didn't arrive this weekend as I hoped, but today I am off to see about that pump and generator. Dave VE4PN P.S. I still haven't heard anyone on 20 meters from the group. I will try to be on again after 1:00 GMT Saturday around 14.150 to 14.200 Mhz ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:59:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Re: Landrover technical descriptions David said, I've only seen the term "breakfast" used for the radiator panel used on this list and in OVLR publications. It seems to be local slang. I find "radiator panel" less confusing. In US Body Shop parlance, that would be called a core support, because it supports the core of the radiator, (actually the whole radiator, but go figure!) Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 SoLaRoS #23 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:02:48 -0800 From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com> Subject: re: Location Fairey Factory? Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:43:14 +1000 From: Jack Chomley <tlink@pronet.net.au> Subject: Location Fairey Factory? Hi Roverologists, >Can anyone please help me with the current address in the U.K. where the Fairey Overdrive is manufactured? I am making a trip to the U.K. soon and wish to visit them. Please reply to my personal E-Mail address, as I am not on the digest, Thanks in advance. I believe, but am not positive, that the Fairey Company no longer exists, and the overdrive and other accessories once manufactured by them are now made by Superwinch. Perhaps someone on this list can verify or correct this. ________________________ C. Marin Faure (original owner) 1973 Land Rover Series III-88 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Kevin Sellitti <Kevinsel@gte.net> Subject: Importing Land Rovers, U.S. Customers ETC; Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:59:22 -0500 I just returned from a week long training seminar at Oracle Education. = This would have nothing to Land Rovers except that the instructor = introduced himself and gave us some info on his background. A few years ago he worked on a contract to U.S. Customs to create a = system that would track each and every one of us as to when we left the = country and where we went. The system also tracked everything imported = and exported and by which company. The system would track transactions by companies as to what was being = imported and from where. If the system noticed discrepancies in the = patterns it would send up a flag. For example company XYZ usually = imports 1000 Tons of Oranges from Chile every month. Then one month = company XYZ imports 1 ton of flour from Columbia. The system would send = up a flag, the shipment would be impounded and inspected. I don't know how closely individuals and particular countries are = scrutinized. I only offer this info for anyone who is thinking about importing a = Land Rover in Pieces and reassembling it to avoid regulations you might = want to keep this in mind. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!!! ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:56:35 -0500
From: Ashley Horn <wahorn@southeast.net>
Subject: Red D90 in Middleburg FLA.
Hello world,
Does anyone on the list own a red D90 that lives near Middleburg FL.
USA. ?
I have passed it several times on county road 220 in the mornings.
--
Ashley Horn http://users.leading.net/~wahorn
1967 SIIA 109' S.W.
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]Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:58:07 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Re: Importing Land Rovers, U.S. Customers ETC; At 12:59 PM 1/24/98 -0500, Kevin Sellitti wrote: : A few years ago he worked on a contract to U.S. Customs to :create a system that would track each and every one of us as to when we :left the country and where we went. The system also tracked everything :imported and exported and by which company. : The system would track transactions by companies as to what was :being imported and from where. If the system noticed discrepancies in :the patterns it would send up a flag. For example company XYZ usually :imports 1000 Tons of Oranges from Chile every month. Then one month :company XYZ imports 1 ton of flour from Columbia. The system would send :up a flag, the shipment would be impounded and inspected. There's too much data to enter and track to make this work. I called the Washington DC DOT office a few months ago to get some info and during the course of the conversation the agent revealed that they had 9 officers to track 300 ports of entry. All they can do is respond to calls from local Customs agents to clarify items or questions that come up. Someone else called earlier and the agent said that EPA was not a problem since their office accross the hall was empty(!), they had already spend their budget 6 months into the year. A later DOT agent --chief of the department, didn't even know that the 2500 Land Rover brought in by LRNA didn't have airbags in them as a result of a 'deal' with DOT, and wanted ME to provide him with specifications and information (yea, sure! ;). I do know that Customs is using some kind of data system. When we clear Unimogs the shipper enters the vehicles and manifest data on computer as the trucks are landed. They data shows up on the Customs computers, and they update data as they are cleared. By the time you head back to the shipper, their computer shows the updated info and they release the goods to you. Sounds ominous, but so far it only works in major ports locally, they are not linked all over the country, though they probably are working on it. On the other hand, we've brought in several Unimogs on one load and the hand written entry documents do not list specific type of goods or serial numbers, only the import classification and duty rate. So, as always, the data in the system is only as good or complete as the info entered into it. Michael Carradine Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 Unimog Network Int'l, Box 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 USA <cs@unimog.net> _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page now relocated at www.unimog.net/sales ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:49:15 -0600 From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net> Subject: 101 Body kits?? Hi All, Well it looks as if we are some kind of threat to the US Government because we want to import 101 LR's So would there be a problem if we imported the body of a 101 & installed it on a 109 frame? (like the proto type was) Well if I import a body without axles or drive train Would I be able to install 109 parts which are here? Regards, Rob Davis_Chicago ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:17:49 -0500 From: Garret Scott <scottgs@usit.net> Subject: Re: Ultimate towing story I respectfully request that my recently submitted towing storys be withdrawn from the competition. I know when I'm beat... ->Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:20:12 -0600 ->From: Steve Fullwood <ansdf@TTACS.TTU.EDU> ->Subject: Ultimate towing story- ->Hi all, ->As you may know I am a new owner. I bought my 88" from a farmer in a ->town ->about 20 miles from where I live. The vehicle had been sitting for 18 ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net> Subject: The China Syndrome. Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:02:31 -0700 [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ] charset="iso-8859-1" Enough Already We don't need any more of this drivel Shut the F up Free Tibet ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BD28E1.7A383AE0 [ Original post was HTML ] charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY background=3D""> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Enough Already We don't need any = more of this drivel</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Shut the F up</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Free Tibet</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BD28E1.7A383AE0-- ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:10:54 -0500 From: Shaun Oriold <soriold@worldchat.com> Subject: Re: Ultimate towing story Steve Fullwood wrote: > Hi all, > As you may know I am a new owner. I bought my 88" from a farmer in a town > about 20 miles from where I live. The vehicle had been sitting for 18 > years and had no liscense or registration. I contacted a buddy of mine > with a F-150 and arranged for he and I to go pick it up. The rover had a > tow bar on it so we thought no problemo. But I never noticed that the > towbar was intended for a tractor hookup. i.e. no ball only tow jaw w/a [ truncated by list-digester (was 37 lines)] > ALOT slower and ALOT of bailing wire. Thought ya'll might get a kick out of > my first LR experience. I was overlooking my insurance and if i were to buy another car. My insurance will cover it for 10 days even if i don't tell the insurance company. was there anybody else driving on the road? Shaun Oriold ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CAPT PAYNE <CAPTPAYNE@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:27:34 EST Subject: Sound Deadening Just bought two large rolls of the aluminum backed, 3/8 inch insulation from the J.C. Whitney catalog. I'm going to try it in the tub and over the wheel wells of the D90. The manufacturer says it will not mold, mildew, and is fire retardant. If it works for the heat and noise, I intend to install it under the door panels and seats. We'll see how it works. Don Payne captpayne@aol.com 94D90 #1331 ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:42:28 -0500 From: Rolston <kuvasz@snet.net> Subject: Land Rover Ambulance WE are looking to purchase a 1967 LR ambulance to convert into a simple camper. Has anyone out there had experience with the LR ambulance? Any imput would be helpful. thanks, Jim ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: 101 kits for sale?? Date: Sat, 24 Jan 98 16:49:32 -0800 From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com> I still think if its imported as a kit car & registered as a kit car that it would be subject to the laws governing kit cars. There are kit car reproductions running around the US that are "reproductions of cars that were never imported for the road. Who says the 101 kit car can not be a reproduction of a LR 101? >It is just >what we would love to have here in the US. IS there any company >importing 101 legally or will for some one? >-- >Rob Davis_Chicago TeriAnn Wakeman Santa Cruz, California NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS twakeman@cruzers.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Stripping off paint Date: Sat, 24 Jan 98 16:49:35 -0800 From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com> >I was interested in a quicker way to take the 3 layers of paint off my Series ;>IIA. I am currently working on the rear tub section. I am currently using >chemicals to get this done. Has anyone used plastic media blasting to ;>accomplish this. I restored a steel Vespa body and it worked well. This could >be disaster for aluminum or is it?? ;>Please don't suggest another stripper as I have tried several. ;>Thanks ;> >John ;>Jtwinkle88@aol.com ;> You are dealing with very thin aluminum panels. EVERY example I have seen that was blasted with abrasives warped. I tried a 3M abrasive wheel. Whereever I used it, I needed to have the body bondowed to cover the deep scratches. My recommendation: The factory used a VERY good paint. Dont take it off if you do not have to. Just sand off any nofactory paint coats & paint over the factory paint. TeriAnn Wakeman Santa Cruz, California NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS twakeman@cruzers.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:33 -0500 From: Field Operations <johnsonm@cia.gov> Subject: Re: Importing Land Rovers, U.S. Customers ETC; SPOOF At 12:59 PM 1/24/98 -0500, you wrote: > I just returned from a week long training seminar at Oracle Education. This would have nothing to Land Rovers except that the instructor introduced himself and gave us some info on his background. > A few years ago he worked on a contract to U.S. Customs to create a system that would track each and every one of us as to when we left the country and where we went. The system also tracked everything imported and exported and by which company. > The system would track transactions by companies as to what was being imported and from where. If the system noticed discrepancies in the patterns it would send up a flag. For example company XYZ usually imports 1000 Tons of Oranges from Chile every month. Then one month company XYZ imports 1 ton of flour from Columbia. The system would send up a flag, the shipment would be impounded and inspected. > I don't know how closely individuals and particular countries are scrutinized. > I only offer this info for anyone who is thinking about importing a Land Rover in Pieces and reassembling it to avoid regulations you might want to keep this in mind. > BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!!! Thanks for the tip on our little leaks in the field Agent Sellitti. Is your address still: Sellitti, Kevin 11XXX Ml King St N, Saint Petersburg, FL 33716-XXXX Phone: (813)XXX-0439 or is it, Sellitti, Kevin Saint Petersburg, FL 33701 Phone: (813)XXX-0076 In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor. NNNN ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Steve & Leona Campbell" <campbell@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Ultimate towing story
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:20:00 +1100
>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:20:12 -0600
>From: Steve Fullwood <ansdf@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
>Subject: Ultimate towing story
(edited)
>...We got onto the highway
>and were cruising along at about 50mph when BLAM! SNAP! BANG! "What the
>hell was that" I said turning around to see. Sure enough my rover which I
>had just paid for and had no insurance was FREE!!...
This story gets my vote! It's a classic!
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From: "Steve & Leona Campbell" <campbell@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Re:moval of paint
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:19:43 +1100
>From: Jtwinkle88 <Jtwinkle88@aol.com>
>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:56:46 EST
>Subject: Stripping off paint
>I was interested in a quicker way to take the 3 layers of paint off my
Series
>IIA. I am currently working on the rear tub section. I am currently using
>chemicals to get this done. Has anyone used plastic media blasting to
>accomplish this. I restored a steel Vespa body and it worked well. This
could
>be disaster for aluminum or is it??
>Please don't suggest another stripper as I have tried several.
>Thanks
>John
John, (sorry) I know you said not to suggest paint stripper but I've just
done my entire S1 (tip to tail) with it without a problem. I tried several
types, ranging in price, and found the 'cheapie' to be the best. The stuff
I used is called Solarstream (it's Australian made and available at
Woolworths here). The chemical composition is 960 g/L Methylene Chloride,
130 g/L Methanol. This stuff is great, it even helps remove some aluminum
corrosion (that white powdery kind) and helps to loosen age old dirt and
grease. It is also good for removing human skin and facial hair!
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From: "Steve & Leona Campbell" <campbell@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Re: Safety goggles!!
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:19:24 +1100
>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:20:29 -0500
>From: Eric Zipkin <ericz@cloud9.net>
>Subject: FRIENDLY WORD OF CAUTION
>WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES!!!!!!
>I sit here at my computer, attempting to focus with one good eye, and one
>with a half a dozen sutres in it. Last friday, I was cleaning up the shop
>(see what I get for that) and I disconnected a shop air hose. The end of
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>Take my advise, invest in a decent pair of shop glasses, keep them clean
>and wear them!!!!! Its aufully hard to off-road by braille.
Eric, I hope you'll be ok, it sounds like a very near thing!, I can
sympathise with you and agree with your warning. I have permanent damage to
my right eye through 2 incidents under a Land Rover, one when I caught a
facefull of rust and stupidly ignored the irritation for a few days, and
the second time I scored a piece of metal in the eye while drilling (I
think it was an earthing problem that I was sorting out... sound familiar?)
Luckily the doctor took it out under a local but the lens is permanently
scratched. I still feel slight twinges in that eye. A pair of goggles is
now a permanent part of my toolbox! We don't know how much we rely on the
ol' peepers until we're without them. I'll SEE you later....and hope you
will too!
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]From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:23:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Stripping off paint Ditto to TeriAnn. I used some grafitti remover from Walmart on Pansy a few years back. Took off the old brown paint the PO had applied (to match the rest of the gear on his place, I guess), and left the limestone, below the topsides. Stripped everything off the roof and topsides and rear door, though. You have to follow directions to the letter to use the stuff, specifically, apply one brush stroke at a time and resist all temptation to go over it again, in either direction. Wear gloves, use well ventilated area, have water to rinse with, y'know; the usual caveats. Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 SoLaRoS #23 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:00:21 -0500 From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net> Subject: Re: Stripping off paint > >I was interested in a quicker way to take the 3 layers of paint off my Series > ;>IIA. I am currently working on the rear tub section. I am currently > using > >chemicals to get this done. Has anyone used plastic media blasting to > ;>accomplish this. I restored a steel Vespa body and it worked well. This > could > >be disaster for aluminum or is it?? [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)] > rover and see how well it works and let everyone know. > Winn Bearden > >I was interested in a quicker way to take the 3 layers of paint off my Series ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:04:42 -0500 From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net> Subject: Re: Stripping off paint My company is bidding on a contract to clean aluminum supports racks at at plant > that makes and paints plastic car bumpers. We found that sand pits the AL badly > but the plastic medium works wonderful (except on parts that have about 70-80 > coats of paint). When we get the contract and set up a facility, I'll strip the > rover and see how well it works and let everyone know. -- Winn Bearden P.O. Box 464 Americus, GA 31709 912-924-6513 (H) 912-928-4984 (CELL) ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:06:50 -0700 From: "Darrell D. Murray" <rdgrnr@flash.net> Subject: Southwestern Regional Rally I would like to announce the Hosting of the Southwestern Land Rover Regional Rally, by The Arizona Land Rover Owner's Club, to be held in May on the 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th, in Tucson, Arizona. We will be limiting the event to the first 75 registered vehicles. For a registration packet or additional information, contact Darrell D. Murray, at rdgrnr@flash.net, or call 520-825-1665 or write to: Darrell D. Murray, 15939 N. Twin Lakes Drive, Tucson, Arizona 85739. Email me direct for information. Darrell D. Murray, President 94 Discovery ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 980125 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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