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1 "Mike Maurer" [micmau@rg20Lcoker advice
2 MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com27RE: IIa wiring options?
3 kerryscott@usa.net 19Re: [K&N for Weber 32/36]
4 MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com58RE: firewall source
5 "Huub Pennings" [HPS@FS120 RE: firewall source
6 Lodelane [Lodelane@aol.c13Re: Wires for a IIa - Substitute application found.
7 "Huub Pennings" [HPS@FS120 RE: firewall source
8 MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com50RE: firewall source
9 Brett Storey [brstore@ib29Re: firewall source
10 john hess [jfhess@wheel.26ankle burners
11 pcaropreso [pcaropr8@wil8new ISP and e-mail address
12 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@ri25Re: The Phantom drives a Series III
13 "Dries Venter" [ventera@19Mea culpa: Chrysler is not Buick
14 "Chris Dillard"[cdillard13Movie w/ LR's
15 Russ Wilson [rwilson@usa18Slant 6 madness
16 "LT J Jackson" [lt_j_jac22BSROA Off-Road
17 john cranfield [john.cra19Re: BSROA Off-Road
18 rover@pinn.net (Alexande24Starting...
19 rover@pinn.net (Alexande36V-8 heritage
20 rover@pinn.net (Alexande32Prop shafted
21 CIrvin1258 [CIrvin1258@a14Re: Heaters/John
22 Solihull@aol.com 23Re: Starting...
23 "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@ns23Re: Prop shafted
24 "K. John Wood" [jwrover@34Re: Heaters/John
25 Thomas Spoto [tspoto@az.25Re: Heaters/John
26 pcaropreso [pcaropr8@rco6(no subject)
27 pcaropreso [pcaropr8@rco6(no subject)
28 Matt Nelson [nelsml73@sn19Re: Heaters/John
29 Michael Slade [slade@ima18Re: V-8 heritage
30 "Said Geoffrey at MITTS"15RE:RE:RE:S3 109 Info Request
31 CIrvin1258 [CIrvin1258@a35Re: Heaters/John
32 Alberto Nobile [alnobile10Cd rom


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From: "Mike Maurer" <micmau@rgalex.com>
Subject: Lcoker advice
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:13:34 -0600

Need Advice

I am considering a diff lock for the rear in my 96 discovery.

Most of the driving I do is city/highway.  Off-Road I hit fire roads and
trails, alot of Virginia slop mud and climbs.  Don't want an ARB because of
the extra cost for air pump & gear.  

Anyone running a Soft-Locker?  I have read decent reviews of on street
positives but little on how they perform off-road?

Last but not least, what are the negatives with having a "locker"?

Thanks

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: IIa wiring options?
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:07:04 -0500

Robert,

I am restoring a '67 IIA and ran across the same question regarding
wiring.  A place outside of Chicago called British Wiring, Inc. had the
best deal on harnesses --  $195 for a neg. earth for an 88".  That
doesn't include the rear section.  They also have harnesses for pos.
earth.  No instructions come with the harness, but everything is in pvc
(they also sell them in the original cloth wrap) and utilizes the same
color codes as the original so you can use the shop manual as a guide.

Kevin

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> From: 	Kathleen Hollington[SMTP:kholling@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, December 30, 1997 9:34 PM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	IIa wiring options?

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> Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR -- 
>   kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying)

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From: kerryscott@usa.net
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 06:48:11
Subject: Re: [K&N for Weber 32/36]

kerryscott@usa.net wrote:
>> Dave Scheidt asked for the number for the K&N to fit the Weber 32/36.  I tried
>> to answer him directly but was rejected as "junk Mail" and tried to answer to
>> the list yesterday and got "trunkated"  so here is another try.  I don't know
>> the item #, but if you call either of the following they can help you:  Bavarian
>> Autosport 800-535-2002 or BMP Design at 800-648-7278.  The Weber 32/36 / K&N
>> combo is a standard replacement for the Solex on BMW 2002's.  This is how my
>> 1975 2002 is set up.  If you don't already have one you will also need the K&N
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>> ____________________________________________________________________
>> Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com
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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: firewall source
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:55:18 -0500

Huub,

I have just finished installing new footwells in my '67 IIA.  When I
went to pull the engine in August, I knew something was up because the
floor boards were riveted to the footwells and firewall!  

Upon further inspection, I realized that someone took the easy way out
of replacing the footwells.  When the original footwells rusted, someone
took the time to cut out the majority of the rusty spots and rivet new
galvanized pieces of sheet metal to either side of the original
footwell, thus sandwiching the original footwell!  To seal it off, they
used several tubes of silicone sealant.  From the outside, it didn't
look too bad; however, they didn't get rid of all the rust on the
original footwell and it eventually ate through the galvanized pieces
attached to it.  It also made a mess when I went to take everything a
part.  

What I decided to do was cut everything out and weld in new footwells.
Rover's North offers galvanized footwells for $75 and $100 ea.  Atlantic
British offers non-galvanized footwells for $50 ea.  I went with AB.
The footwells come in one piece (top, bottom and outside).  The inside
is not included.  The inside panels were also rusty, so I used some of
the galvanized pieces which I cut off and fabricated new panels.  A
friend from work did all of the tac welding for me.  It took about three
hours to weld each side in place.  We did a bead weld to ensure that it
is leak proof.  Pictures are available at
http://members.carol.net/murphyk/rover/restoration.html  Some additional
notes. The bottom door hinges will no longer be accessible after the new
footwells are in place, so make sure that you haven't removed them when
you go to weld the footwell in!  

As for the other parts, my frame was replaced with a galvanized one in
1986 and one of the two a-posts were also replaced prior to my acquiring
the vehicle.  

Kevin

g____________________________
        Kevin A. Murphy
       GE GAS TURBINE FINANCE
       (864) 675-2727 / 8*288-2727 (phone)
       (864)-675-2274 / 8*288-2274 (fax)

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> From: 	Huub Pennings[SMTP:HPS@fs1-kfih.azr.nl]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, December 31, 1997 4:54 AM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	Re: firewall source

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> e-mail adress
> Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@FS1-KFIH.AZR.NL>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:40:35 +0100
Subject:       RE: firewall source

Hello Kevin,

Thanks for the info. 

I have some more questions for you.
What is the current state of your frame? Is it painted or left as is?
Do you know the make of your frame?

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: Lodelane <Lodelane@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:44:33 EST
Subject: Re: Wires for a IIa - Substitute application found.

David,

Inquiring minds want to know-
What brand are the wires, and where did you get them?

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@FS1-KFIH.AZR.NL>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:48:10 +0100
Subject:       RE: firewall source

Hello,

Is there a way of zinc protecting the firewall, I'm under the 
impression that it can't be hot-dipped because of the teperatures 
involved.

Anyone??

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: MurphyK1@psgvl.ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: firewall source
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:53:51 -0500

I will start with my disclaimer.  I have owned a Land Rover for one year
and I have been restoring it for the last six months.  My background is
Finance.  You put those pieces together and the results are the
following:  I generally screw up my terminology and anything I say that
sounds intelligent was probably told to me by someone else!

The frame on my Rover is galvanized and I have heard that it is best not
to paint galvanized.  Hence the frame has remained unpainted.  What is
hard to believe is that someone did a frame off restoration on it in the
mid 80's but either did a haphazard job of fixing the firewall, or
ignored it altogether and the next owner did it.  (It has had two owners
before me since the '86 frame off).  I am also not sure of the make of
the frame.  Some interesting features though: It appears to have the
capability of handling either coil suspension or leaf suspension.  It
currently has leaf suspension on it now.  I do not know if that is even
possible.  Also, every Rover frame I have seen has holes in the
bulkheads to pass a shaft through for either a forward or rear
mechanical winch.  Mine, has  a hole in the forward bulkhead and in the
rear bumper, but NOT in the rear bulkhead.  It has the similar shape of
all the other bulkheads, except is missing the hole.

Hope this helps.  By the way, I am restoring it in a 10' X 20' storage
unit.  So, I am currently only working on the front half.  I will then
turn it around and rebuild the rear.  

It is kind of like getting dressed every day in a small closet!

Kevin

g____________________________
        Kevin A. Murphy
       GE GAS TURBINE FINANCE
       (864) 675-2727 / 8*288-2727 (phone)
       (864)-675-2274 / 8*288-2274 (fax)

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> From: 	Huub Pennings[SMTP:HPS@FS1-KFIH.AZR.NL]
> Sent: 	Friday, January 02, 1998 10:40 AM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	RE: firewall source

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> e-mail adress
> Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 11:23:26 -0500
From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: firewall source

Huub

I just had my bulkhead galvanized two months ago and it turned out
fantastic, too nice to install on my dirty old 88. I had it sandblasted,
plugged up all the captive nuts with silicone and off it went. I was
worried because I had heard of bulkheads being hot dipped and coming
back looking like pretzels but no fear, a couple wacks with a rubber
mallet on mine and all was well. Maybe I was just lucky but it worked
out well for me.

Brett

Huub Pennings wrote:

> Hello,
> Is there a way of zinc protecting the firewall, I'm under the
> impression that it can't be hot-dipped because of the teperatures
> involved.
> Anyone??
> Regards,

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> e-mail adress
> Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:02:09 -0800
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: ankle burners

Hi everyone,

Since my success at getting rear turn signal lenses for Stubby, I thought
I'd ask about ankle burner heater cores.  Out here in California, the ankle
burner gets the pickup cab quite warm and defrosts the windshield well.
However, our heater core has terminal rot and has been labelled
unrepairable by the local radiator shop (who repaired one leak for free but
then discovered another in a location where he couldn't fix it).

Does anyone have  a good condition round Smiths heater core that they would
like to sell.  Most places are telling me they are NLA although I have been
offered replacements for ~$200.

Thanks and cheers,

John F Hess   jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's),
1960 swb roadster "Slug" (Alex's) Slug needs everything, donations accepted

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:54:30 -0600
From: pcaropreso <pcaropr8@willowtree.com>
Subject: new ISP and e-mail address

Hi, all,
    My new ISP is Rural Connections and I have a new e-mail address:
pcaropr8@willowtree.com.  Thanks,  Phil

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:48:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net>
Subject: Re: The Phantom drives a Series III

At 07:34 AM 1/1/98 +1100, you wrote:
>*BUT*, I am now more confused as to where he might live.  I've always
>assumed that it was in Africa, perhaps because of the animals.  I've also
>assume it was in a piece of country which developed under British rule
>because of the style of the Jungle Patrol clothes etc.
 
I thought it was south america somewhere, but I couldn't be sure.  (There
was a Phantom movie made here recently (not bad, but too short; I liked the
well-choreographed fighting) but I'm afraid I didn't pay that much attention
to details.)

>Tigers and lions feature in the comic strip, so it can't be set in the
>Americas.
 
Unless the artist is clueless.

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger@sinasohn.com                           that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: "Dries Venter" <ventera@ilink.nis.za>
Subject: Mea culpa: Chrysler is not Buick
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:58:30 +0200

I have sinned, therefore I have already made obeisances in front of the
Yellow Submarine and said a hundred "Thou art not a Chrysler"s to expiate
my sins and purge me.  I now know: The V8 LR engine is NOT a Chrysler, but
a Buick. Do not pass "GO", do not collect your LR... 

But it did originally, _ORIGINALLY_ come from BMW...

The main problem BMW and Buick had was the aluminium casting, which had the
engine block cracking around the sleeves under stress.  Rover (British
Leyland?) solved the problem as was mentioned in one of the other posts.

Dries Venter
1985 110 PUP V8, aka "The Yellow Submarine"

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From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:49:31 -0500
Subject: Movie w/ LR's

FYI  Movie "White Hunter, Black Heart"  Clint Eastwood

LOT'S and LOT's and LOT'S of Land Rovers.  Not a bad movie either!

Cheers
Chris
91 RR County SWB w/ a few extras

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:55:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: Slant 6 madness

 You can also get a kit for a Chrysler Valiant slant-6 hemi
>engine (Plymouth Valiant in the USA).  A mate of mine has a SIIA LWB with a
>hemi and it goes like the wind.
Ron, you can't leave everyone hanging like that.  You have atleast a dozen
people in the throws of slant-6 envy.... Is someone still producing this
conversion as a kit?  Where can this conversion be had??  I'm just another
silly American that wants to go everywhere fast....or atleast faster.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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Date: 2 Jan 1998 17:05:01 -0400
From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: BSROA Off-Road

I know that the Bay State Rover Owners Association (Massachusetts) took some
heat a while 
back for inadvertently using the list to post a message announcing a "members
only" off-road event.   I want to thank them publicly for putting on a great
New Year's Day off-road event which they opened to non-members like myself.   
Neil Sheridan (SIIA 88) and I rode up to New Hampshire in my SIII 88 and
joined about ten Range Rovers, Disco's and D 90's for a four-hour mountain run
along snow-packed forest service roads, including two small water crossings
and all the ice you would expect on a fifteen degree day.    My bone-stock
SIII held it's own - this was my first challenging off-road trip and I finally
saw what all the fuss is about; these are great trucks.  

Again, we had a good time and enjoyed the BSROA's hospitality and the chance
to put a few faces on names from The List.   Thanks. 

Jeff Jackson
73 SIII 88 which needs a Kodiak Heater

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:07:15 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: BSROA Off-Road

LT J Jackson wrote:
> I know that the Bay State Rover Owners Association (Massachusetts) took some
> heat a while
> back for inadvertently using the list to post a message announcing a "members
> only" off-road event.   I want to thank them publicly for putting on a great
> New Year's Day off-road event which they opened to non-members like myself.
> Neil Sheridan (SIIA 88) and I rode up to New Hampshire in my SIII 88 and
> joined about ten Range Rovers, Disco's and D 90's for a four-hour mountain run
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> Jeff Jackson
> 73 SIII 88 which needs a Kodiak Heater
Jefff there are mods to be made to the series III heater which will
nearly cook you out of the truck. For details Email me direct.
    John and Muddy (who has lots of heat)

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:09:09 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Starting...

Mike Johnson wrote:

>you need not remove the exhaust or anything else to extract the starter
>motor...Pull the "front"...up as the shaft is being removed.

I'll try that route next time.  I've found that a Series III can be 
extracted out the top (between the carb and the firewall) while a IIa motor 
- which is a skosh longer - can't be removed because it fouls on the 
downpipe.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:09:12 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: V-8 heritage

ERT the thread on the origins of the V-8, Peter Ogilvie wrote:

>It was sold to British Leyland or one of its antecedents.

Spot on.  The motor was actually discovered quite by accident.  Rover 
engineer William-Martin Hurst was touring a Mercury Marine (boatbuilding) 
plant in the US when he literally stumbled across the little GM V-8 on the 
floor.  At that time, the "100 inch station wagon" project AKA the Range 
Rover was in the design stages, with the Rover P-6 six cylinder slated as 
the powerplant.  As the V-8 was lighter, shorter and more powerful than the 
P-6, Rover soon purchased the patent rights from GM...a move they regret to 
this day.  But, hey, when did GM have *any* foresight?  

>Don't think Aluminum Castings were the big problems faced by this engine.

For GM, it was that they perfected thin-wall iron casting in the interim.  
As casting good, ol' iron was cheaper (read: fewer defects) it was purely 
economics.  And if you really want to see GM at work, go out and rent "Roger 
and Me" at the video store.

Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:09:16 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Prop shafted

Nate wrote:

>when the sliding joint in a prop shaft goes bad, can it be replaced?

Depends on what goes bad.  By design, there was no zerk fitting on the front 
prop shaft.  Rover reasoned that every time it got lubed, the front shaft 
would get pumped full of grease.  This would cause "hydraulising"; when the 
front axle gest displaced by a bump, the shaft shortens and the compressed 
grease would blow out the seal.  By comparison, the rear shaft gets 
lenghtened in the same situation - no worries.  So the front shaft only has 
a bolt in the grease nipple hole.

Yes, it can be disassembled.  Unscrew the collar and *gently* remove the 
castelated fiber washer inside.  Be forewarned.  This washer is one part 
unavialable anywhere at any price.  (It can be super-glued back together, 
however.)  However, if the splines are worn/sloppy due to a lack of grease 
over the years, the whole shaft must be replaced.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:22:59 EST
Subject: Re: Heaters/John

John,

Know of any ideas that would give a SII the same "cooking" effect? At present,
I have the retro-fitted heater that sits in the passengers' footwell - which
keeps the passengers feet nice and cozy, but leave the rest of the truck in
the icebox!

Charles

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:49:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  Starting...

>> while a IIa motor - which is a skosh longer - can't be removed...... 

Refering to the starter motors, of course. The "IIa" one is the older model,
and has a sheet metal band covering the brush windows in the back, that is,
the end opposite the starter gear. The newer starter motors have a cast alloy
cover on that end, covering the pie wedge shaped brushes, that's why it's a
skosh shorter. The two starters interchange readily, tho.

Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:39:04 -0800
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Prop shafted

Alexander P. Grice wrote:
> Nate wrote:
> >when the sliding joint in a prop shaft goes bad, can it be replaced?
> Depends on what goes bad.  By design, there was no zerk fitting on the front
> prop shaft.  Rover reasoned that every time it got lubed, the front shaft
> would get pumped full of grease.  This would cause "hydraulising"; when the
> front axle gest displaced by a bump, the shaft shortens and the compressed

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>       |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
>       *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

Sandy;  You can get the splined and only, to be welded on the shaft if 
the shaft is worn, as well as the "female" end, which just require the 
u-joint. I believe I have just such an animal (or two ) in my parts box!

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Subject: Re: Heaters/John
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:23:20 -0700

Charles,

You might try source-ing the diffuser box from a SIIa. These utilized the
same heater, but offered a box like panel that ran across the underside of
the dash and allowed air to be diffused to both foot wells.

Good Luck!

John 

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> From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
> To: lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: Re: Heaters/John
> Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 8:22 PM
> John,

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> John,
> Know of any ideas that would give a SII the same "cooking" effect? At
present,
> I have the retro-fitted heater that sits in the passengers' footwell -
which
> keeps the passengers feet nice and cozy, but leave the rest of the truck
in
> the icebox!
> Charles
> Subject: Re: Heaters/John

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 21:48:20 +0100
From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Subject: Re: Heaters/John

The only heaters from Series IIA's I'm aware of were;

1) The little circular Smiths Heater, to left of centerline on the bulkhead.

2) The Kodiak, which was a North American option and  took up most of the
passenger (right side) foot well.

Tom Spoto

K. John Wood wrote:

> Charles,
> You might try source-ing the diffuser box from a SIIa. These utilized the
> same heater, but offered a box like panel that ran across the underside of
> the dash and allowed air to be diffused to both foot wells.
> Good Luck!

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> > Charles
> > Subject: Re: Heaters/John

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:02:38 -0600
From: pcaropreso <pcaropr8@rconnect.com>
Subject: (no subject)

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:04:52 -0600
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:49:46 -0500
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: Heaters/John

no there was another above the footwell like on a s3 but with a
different duct system, I guess there were at least three different
heaters in 2as probably more
matt

Thomas Spoto wrote:
> The only heaters from Series IIA's I'm aware of were;
> 1) The little circular Smiths Heater, to left of centerline on the bulkhead.
> 2) The Kodiak, which was a North American option and  took up most of the
> passenger (right side) foot well.

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> passenger (right side) foot well.
> Tom Spot

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:47:06 -0800
From: Michael Slade <slade@imagina.com>
Subject: Re: V-8 heritage

Sandy writes...

>As the V-8 was lighter, shorter and more powerful than the
>P-6, Rover soon purchased the patent rights from GM...a move they regret to
>this day.

Who, GM or Land Rover?

Hehe.

Michael Slade
'90 RR
Portland, OR

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:06:35 +0100
From: "Said Geoffrey at MITTS" <Geoffrey.Said@magnet.mt>
Subject: RE:RE:RE:S3 109 Info Request

gehl@at.crane.navy.mil:
>Geoffrey,
>Might you know the Maltese pound to US dollar conversion?
>Mark

Mark it comes to about 6750 US dollars

Thanks
Geoffrey
Malta

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From: CIrvin1258 <CIrvin1258@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:21:01 EST
Subject: Re: Heaters/John

'There was another that mounted above the footwell like the S3, but with a
different duct..."

That's sorta what I have: It looks like a S3 box, with 3 vents bolted onto the
sides of it. It's a Smiths unit, and there's no ducting coming in from outside
(ie. it's mounted INSIDE the bulkhead, on the top od the footwell).

The bulkhead has holes in it for the hoses of a "leg burner" type of heater to
pass through it - which they do, but then they continue to the box, and while
there was a makeshift ducting for windshield vents, they were not connected
for lack of ducting, and, if they were, there's no provision in the bulkhead
for ducting to pass through the shelf! (BTW - it's a U.K. market 109 3dr
diesel - if this matters)

The bulkhead is rotten in the footwells, so if I decide to install my "flat
type" heater, I won't mind to terribly, about drilling new holes in it for the
re-placement of the hoses.

HOWEVER...one big question is - should I even waste any time installing this
heater, as I'm looking into buying a Webasto (or similar) turbine heater? Hey
- I was freezing my you-know-whats off, when I went to Black Rock/Reno this
past Sept., and it was reasonably hot during the day there! (I won't even
mention the drive into Mammoth at 0300!) The truck has no headliner, nor does
it have a fancy interior (soon to change - insulation is good), so I'm open to
at least thinking about all options........once my temporary replacement
tranny is installed.

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 12:16:01 +0100
From: Alberto Nobile <alnobile@tin.it>
Subject: Cd rom

I have heard voices of a Land Rover issued cd-rom catalogue of spare
parts. Does anybody know more?

Cheers
Al

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