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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: Land Rover sales brochures etc.
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 08:43:37 +1100

This may be seen as too commercial by some (especially the Series list) but
I came across this info from an Aussie company.  Had it been just books,
I'd have not worried about it but as it was, in the main, sales brochures,
I thought there may be interest.

The usual disclaimers apply.  All prices are in Aussie dollars (A$1 =
US$0.65 at the moment so they are cheap buying to NAS readers).  They have
a lot of other stuff on other British makes.  If you have a particular
interest, email me directly and I'll sedn back the info on that marque.

The company is : 

MOTOR BOOK SHOP  
BOX 22 Smiths Gully  3760  Australia 
Phone/Fax (03) 9710 1435  International +613 9710 1435 
 motorbks@smart.net.au 

Regards,  Ron Beckett

LAND ROVER Sales Brochures
LAND ROVER 1948-73 25 YRS OF A LAND ROV       B/18/2CL #27984/E       $15 
LAND ROVER 1971? SER 3 109 INC LAND ROV       SHEET    #23430/C       $2
LAND ROVER 1971? SER 3 109" BA LAND ROV       SHEET    #23483/B       $2

LAND ROVER 1971? SER 3 88 INCH LAND ROV       SHEET    #23387/C       $2 
LAND ROVER 1971? SERIES 2 BROC LAND ROV       B/12/2 C #24839/C       $8
LAND ROVER 1971? SERIES 2 BROC LAND ROV       B/12/2 C #22242/B       $8
LAND ROVER 1981 BROCHURE 2.3/3 LAND ROV 81/12 B/24/COL #27979/E       $10
LAND ROVER 1984- 110 COUNTY FO LAND ROV       F/4/COL  #4678/C        $2
LAND ROVER 1986 110 COUNTY 5 S LAND ROV       F/4/COL  #27977/E       $5
LAND ROVER 1988 110 COUNTY FOL LAND ROV 88/6  F/4/COL  #27978/E       $5
LAND ROVER 1990 DISCOVERY BROC LAND ROV       B/18/COL #25117/E P/R   $7

LAND ROVER 1990 DISCOVERY FOLD LAND ROV 90/1  F/6/COL  #25115/D       $4
LAND ROVER 1991 DISCOVERY BROC LAND ROV       B/18/COL #27975/E       $7
LAND ROVER 1991 DISCOVERY FOLD LAND ROV 91/9  F/6/COL  #27981/E       $4
LAND ROVER 1993 3 PRESS RELEAS LAND ROV       3        #27894/E       $7
LAND ROVER 1993 DEFENDER BROCH LAND ROV 93/1  B/8/COL  #27982/E       $4
LAND ROVER 1993 DISCOVERY BROC LAND ROV 93/2  B/20/COL #27580/E       $7
LAND ROVER 1994 DISCOVERY BROC LAND ROV 94/3  B/24/COL #27980/E       $7

LAND ROVER Parts Books
LAND ROVER 1958-68 SERIES 2/2A ROVER 60       S        #16389/E DAM   $55
LAND ROVER 1963-72 SERIES 2A P ROVER 60       S        #16374/E       $39
LAND ROVER 1972 SERIES 3 PARTS ROVER 60       S        #16376/E       $29
LAND ROVER ARMY PARTS SUPPLEME ROVER          RING     #16377/E       $39

LAND ROVER Workshop Manuals & Technical Info.
ISUZU 1980-84 DIESEL INJECTION ISUZU IN #4316/E        $23
LAND ROVER 1958-88 SERIES 2/2A HAYNES 5       H        #4689/S  SPE   $29
LAND ROVER 1959-60 SERIES 2 W- ROVER 42 58    S        #15672/E FAI   $47
LAND ROVER 1959-78 SERIES 2/2A AUTOBOOK       H        #4692/E  LIB   $28

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 06:11:10 -0500
Subject: hello?

I do believe the major's in a bit of a snit....

          ajr

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:51:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Nick Fankhauser <nickf@co.wayne.in.us>
Subject: Devin's fan Belt

Hi Devin- welcome to roverdom. It looks like you've already been introduced
to Mr. Lucas. The fan belt being loose really does explain just about
everything. Taking the questions in order:

>Driving home, the 
>engine would want to stall every time I came to a light or stop sign.  

The battery was so dead that you were running the spark coil off of the
alternator only, so at very low idle, it will begin to misfire.

>My charge light does work, and when I first start the vehicle (from a 
>jumpstart), the red light glows and pulses very slightly.  After some 
>revving, the light goes away.

This bears out the hypothesis that your alternator isn't pushing out enough
juice to run the ignition system at idle- (Not a problem if your battery is
there to help it.) Note that the charge light comes on when the alternator
is NOT charging, but the battery is low. It is a warning light, not an "all
clear" light.

>The interior light is actually brighter 
>at low RPMs and fades upon revving.

Hmmm... puzzling. Must be a lucas bulb.

>1.  When I look under the hood, the fan belt is driving the 
>alternator, despite the belt being loose.  Is it really the fanbelt?

Remember that if you have no load on the alternator, it spins easily, so
when you look at it with the hood open, it will seem to be fine in most
circumstances- however, it may begin slipping if you turn the headlights on.
It's also tough to tell when slippage is occuring- you can't really eyeball
the difference in speed of two pulleys unless one of them is going really slow. 

>2.  Now, when the motor is at idle, the interior light pulses somewhat 
>irradically.  Is this becasue the fan belt is slipping?

Could be, but it could also be normal with a low battery and the alternator
not chargin yet.

>3.  At idle, my charge light is not on, although I know it works.  Why 
>is it not on?  If the battery is low, which I know it is, shouldn't 
>the light come on to indicate it is charging?

The charge light tells you when you are not charging, but should be.

>4.  Can someone walk me through the fan-belt tightening process?  

An SIII person can give you a more detailed answer, but essentially, there
should be a place somewhere on the mount where a mounting bolt goes into a
slotted piece of metal. loosen all of the bolts slightly, and the slot-bolt
a lot, and you should be able to pivot the alternator. pivot it out until
the fan belt deflects easily about 1/2 inch, and then tighten all of the
bolts starting with the slot bolt. It helps to have a friend help with this,
or use a lever to make it easy to hold the alternator while you tighten the
bolts.

>5.  Was my stalling problem after I was stranded related to the fact 
>that my battery was severly drained and my fan belt was slipping.

I think so.

Fix this as soon as you can- running for too long this way might damage the
battery.

>Thanks in advance

You're welcome- good luck & stick with it.

-NickF
'62 SIIa

Nick Fankhauser           |Wayne County Information Systems Department
NickF@co.wayne.in.us      |     http://www.co.wayne.in.us/wayneco
http://www.infocom.com/~nickf

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From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:51:48 EST
Subject: Re:  Land Rover sales brochures etc.

In a message dated 12/26/97 9:40:19 PM, you wrote:

>LAND ROVER 1993 DEFENDER BROCH LAND ROV 93/1  B/8/COL  #27982/E       $4

Ron,

That sounds interesting; I know it probably has nothing in it about my NAS
110, but why not get it anyway?

How would I go about getting $4 to you? What about postage, any ideas on that?

I'm on holidays in the philippines right now and perhaps can find some
australians going back to take some money for me. Ahh, I know, i have an A$10
bill left from when I was there sailing... but I can't give it up, it is a
keepsake of the only money with a plastic window on it.

BTW, all your hillmans, are they related to the "Imp"? If they are, is the
name short for imperial or does it mean dwarf-like?

pat
93  110

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:05:39 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Land Rover sales brochures etc.

The Hillman Imp was named for a little mischevious devil.The image was
of fun sporty little car. Definatly nothing Imperial about that car!
But they were sporty I used to watch them race at Brands Hatch cornering
under full throttle with one front wheel off the ground.
     Happy New Year   JohnSPYDERS wrote:
> In a message dated 12/26/97 9:40:19 PM, you wrote:
> >LAND ROVER 1993 DEFENDER BROCH LAND ROV 93/1  B/8/COL  #27982/E       $4
> Ron,
> That sounds interesting; I know it probably has nothing in it about my NAS
> 110, but why not get it anyway?

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 22 lines)]
> pat
> 93  110

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:31:15 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.com>
Subject: Re: 50th Tour Page UPDATED AT LAST !!!

At 10:04 PM 12/25/97 +0000, Brian Cotton wrote:
:Everyone,
:Firstly a very Merry Christmas and a pleasant New Year.
:
:The Land Rover Owner's Club of Southern Africa's 50th tour of South 
:Africa has just been updated.
:Only the important pages (Main, Route and Camp Site pages) have been
updated. The 
:others will follow.
:Please take noth that the tour has been extended by a few day to 
:accomodate a few more game reserves etc.
:
:Any queries please contact me or Ina at:
:bcotton@pta.lia.net
:or
:fax +27 (0)83 8 290 2085 (Int'l)
:fax 083 8 290 2085 (Local)
:
:Cheers
:Brian Cotton

 And the URL address of the web page is (drum roll, please)....... ?????

-M

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 19:58:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Joseph Broach <broach@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Subject: HELP! I've killed them both

Well, since there is a chance of snow in the next few days I wanted the
rovers in top shape. While doing some routine maintenance, I thought it
would be a good idea to clean the sediment bowls. The red rover cranked up
and made it about half way down the driveway, the white rover didn't get
out of its parking spot. I have done this before with no problems, but now,
no amount of priming will get fuel to the carb. I assume there's just some
air in there but how do I get it out? Please help me before I have to
explain to anyone else how I singlehandedly immobilized two landies.

regards,
joseph broach
knoxville, tn
'67 IIa 88"
'68 IIa 88"

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:29:16 +0100
From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Subject: Re: HELP! I've killed them both

You're sure that the gasket/seal at the top of the glass bowl is airtight. If
not it will suck air at that point instead of drawing fuel from the tank. When
you cleaned the bowl did you do anything to the screen or above such as the one
way valves.

Tom Spoto

Joseph Broach wrote:

                                ...snip...I have done this before with no
problems, but now,
no amount of priming will get fuel to the carb. I assume there's just some
air in there but how do I get it out? Please help me before I have toexplain
to anyone else how I singlehandedly immobilized two landies.

> regards,
> joseph broach
> knoxville, tn
> '67 IIa 88"
> '68 IIa 88"

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: Charging problems
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:52:54 +1100

Devin Anderson asked:

> My questions are this:

>1.  When I look under the hood, the fan belt is driving the 
>alternator, despite the belt being loose.  Is it really the fanbelt?

A loose fanbelt can still drive the alternator at idle (when you look under
the bonnet) but when the revs come up and the load on the alternator
increases as it begins to charge properly, the belt may slip.  Some people
will tell you that if it slips, you will hear it squeal.  This is often but
not always true.  (I know this from experience with a car that had to be
put on charge every day after driving it to work (60km).  I thought the
alternator was shot but it was a loose belt and it *didn't* squeal.)

>2.  Now, when the motor is at idle, the interior light pulses somewhat 
>irradically.  Is this becasue the fan belt is slipping?

Possibly.

>3.  At idle, my charge light is not on, although I know it works.  Why 
>is it not on?  If the battery is low, which I know it is, shouldn't 
>the light come on to indicate it is charging?

No! The light will come one to tell you it *isn't* charging, e.g., like it
does when the engine isn't running but the ignition is switched on. 
However, in the early Lucas alternator configuration, if the warning light
is blown, the alternator won't charge.  The alternator needs the current
flow thru the globe to start charging.

>4.  Can someone walk me through the fan-belt tightening process? 
>I  have not received my workshop manual yet.  I see there are three 
>bolts, two within easy access up top, and another down below the fan 
>blades. 
I don't have a Series LR but I suspect the alternator configuration is the
same as my Hillman, viz., a Lucas 15AC alternator.  If so, there will be a
long bolt thru the bottom on which the alternator pivots.

>Before I start loosening, I would like to know the proper tightening
process.

First loosen the above-mentioned bottom pivot bolt.  Put a spanner at the
fron and another at the back to loosen it.  Now slacken off the top two
bolts.
Put a piece of timber or a large screwdriver down between the alternator
and the engine and lever the alternator away from the engine to tighten the
belt.

It is important not to over-tension the belt as it will cause the
destruction of your alternator and/or water pump bearings.  Whilst holding
the alternator out from the engine, check by how much you can deflect the
fan belt.  You should be able to easily deflect it by 1/2"-3/4"  I'm not
sure of the figures for a Landie as the amount depends on the length of the
belt but the above is a good starting point and may get you out of trouble
pending a definitive reply from a Landie owner.

Tighten up all bolts (don't forget the one underneath).

5.  Was my stalling problem after I was stranded related to the fact 
that my battery was severly drained and my fan belt was slipping.

Don't know but unlikely.

Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia

'86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual

check my home page at 
http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:09:03 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Fairey Overdrive Stickers

David Scheidt wrote:

> There
> are Overdrive by Superwinch stickers.  I don't know if they are
> available.

As of a year ago yes since one came with my overdrive.

cheers

Jeremy

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:50:13 +0000
From: Rick Turner <ricky@drift.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Paint Supplier for Pink Panther

You should be able to get paint for your pink panther from a company
called 'Millbrook Paints' here in the UK. Amongst other things they make
up paint for HMG and will make up small amounts of any military colour
on request. I've used them a couple of times to get paint to match a
couple of my ex-military vehicles. I can't remember their exact prices
but the paint costs something like 12 plus 6/litre (so 1 litre is 18,
2 litres 24 and so on). It's not expensive, anyhow.

You can contact them at 47 Salem St, Shirley, Southampton, England.
Phone is (01703) 701170 or 701670. From outside the UK you need to dial
+44 1703 701170 as usual. I'm only located 40 miles or so from there, so
if you have trouble getting hold of them drop me an e-mail and I'll see
what I can do.

[ I seem to be having trouble posting to the list for some reason; this
is the third time that I've tried to post this but it has never made the
list. Apologies if you get duplicates of this mailing ]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all!
Rick Turner

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