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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:41:49 -0500
From: "Spencer K. C. Norcross" <spencern@acr.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Want to buy a Series or Defender LR

>on a postcard . . .

because all you get is the keychain, the owner's manual and windnoise 
oh, yeah, you get a dialogue with LRNA about the *ownership experience* 
:-0

-- 
rgds,
spenny
Arlington, VA

1969 SWB, The Wayback Machine
1965 Ex-MOD LWB, Gromit <- Just add bolts  :-0
Land Rover - 4WD of choice for the Information Superhighway

Q. Why do they call it a kilt?
A. Because a lot of people got kilt when they called it a skirt.

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:34:18 -0500
Subject: Movie Sighting

Horror at Party Beach  (1963)

This groaner was (of course) on Mystery Science Theater 3000 this past
weekend, and during the opening credits, an MG gets chased by a biker gang
past a parked Series Land-Rover.  All you see is a dead-on front view of
the Landy, but from the credits, this seems to occur in Bridgeport,
Connecticut.  The "Horror" is a bunch of blood-drinking atomic mutants who
must be killed by the teenagers and the local Dragnet wannabes with some
exotic chemical called sodium.

Hank

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From: Chuque Henry <ChuqueH@isco.com>
Subject: Win95 Icons and Cursors
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:37:18 -0600

A long time back I made up some simple animated LR cursors and some
icons.  I made a spinning LR badge for the 'wait' cursor, added an arrow
to the badge for 'working in background' and a color changing pointer to
round things off.  I also made some Series and Defender icons to
represent my favorite programs.  I sent a bunch of them out to people
who wanted them, and thought I would offer to e-mail them to anyone who
wants them again.

Of course nothing is free, so in exchange I want you guys to keep your
ears open for anyone who might be interested in my 1970 IIA 88" for
$6,000, or any smoken' deals on a Defender 90.  I don't care about
options, as long as it's a Defender for less than $25k.  Thanks!  And if
there is an icon in particular you would like, just let me know.  They
aren't that hard to make and it's really easy to change colors to
represent your Rover.

-

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From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:40:24 -0500
Subject: Anti-Roll Bars

Several montha after getting my 91 RR I was playing up under it and noticed
that the previous owner had removed the stock Anti-Roll bars on the fromt
and the rear.  I just was wondering if this was of any consequence.  I do
not have excessive bosy roll nor do I feel unsafe cornering and decent
speeds.  I just didn't know if it was even worth considering putting them
back on or not. Any info would be helpful.

Chris
91 RR Coutny SWB

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:48:44 -0500
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: Win95 Icons and Cursors

I'd love the icons!

and what are the details of your Land Rover, I have a pal thats looking
for one...
thanks
Matt Nelson

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 22 Dec 97 09:00:34 MST
Subject: Plug wires for a IIa

From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
Hello all, Does anyone have any applications for spark plug wires that will
fit a '71 IIa? Just looking at the wires, it "looks" like a wire set for a
MG will work. What have you used?

Thanks, Dave Brown. (Now, with one less Rover on the ranch) :-(

 Never give up your life for          #=======#         _____l___
 anything that death can take away.   |__|__|__\___    //__|__|__\___
                        -anonymous    | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
                                      "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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From: Chuque Henry <ChuqueH@isco.com>
Subject: Rover for Sale (was: Win95 Icons and Cursors)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:01:23 -0600

1970 Series IIa 88" (ok, I already mentioned that...)
$6,000
Don't know about mileage because the odometer stopped working at one
time.
Safari top
Overdrive
Bigger tires, lots of tread left
It is my only means of transport so it's very reliable and used everyday
Blue
New Weber carb
New Radiator
New fuel pump
Electronic ignition
Springs recently re-arched and re-bushed
Right front outrigger has some rust but otherwise the chassis is sound
Warn free wheel hubs

Let me know if you would like any more details or the few pictures I
have scanned.

-Q (pronounced Chuck)
Home:  402-484-5569
Work1:  402-465-3040
Work2:  402-458-5513

Leave me messages at any of these and I'll get back to you.
> ----------
> From: 	Matt Nelson[SMTP:nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu]
> Sent: 	Monday, December 22, 1997 9:48 AM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	Re: Win95 Icons and Cursors

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> thanks
> Matt Nelson

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From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:03:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Win95 Icons and Cursors

I wouls like a copy of youy icons and would also be interested in your SER
IIA 88!
you can e-mail me direct  cdillard@aholusa.com

Chris
91 RR County SWB

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: Thanks, New Parts, 109 for Sale.
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:53:21 -0800

Thanks to all who replied regarding the rattly transfer lever.  We
picked up the anti-rattle spring in Vancouver.

Actually I blew a good wad on a new rear cross member, front bumper and
lots of things in between...

Spotted an add for a '68 109 for sale, reads: '68 Land Rover 109 SW,
Safari roof, 6 cylinder model, not running. $1900.00 obo' ($1400.00 US)
This vehicle is in Vancouver.
I haven't seen it.
email me if you would like the number.

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC  Canada.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:06:40 -0500
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: re: Plug wires for a IIa

Do yourself a favor. Call Rovers North and plunk down $19 for a set of
Lucas Speedleads. They're not original--they're better than original...and
if you happen to have a radio they're also shielded.

Speedleads can be obtained from other sources too--but this way you leave
it up to the experts to get you the correct set. Trust me, poor fitting
wires--mine were supposed to be 3rd-party replacements for my rig--are no
fun at all.

j--"Say Zippy, the waters almost reached the radio--could you hurry up with
that winch?"--ab

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
	Guidance Counselor said your scores are anti-heroic.
	Computer recommends hard-drinking calypso poet.
	--Jimmy Buffett, If It All Falls Down (by Matt Betton)

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Date: 22 Dec 1997 15:31:59 -0400
From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: Vibration

Two days ago Camilla developed a new vibration (one of many, course, but more
serious sounding than the usual assortment of howler monkeys and
can-o'-marbles sounds that came direct from the factory).  

It's got me puzzled.  When the engine is idling, nothing.  When I increase
revs at idle, it kicks in.  When I'm slowing down and push in the clutch, it
goes away.  If I leave the clutch engaged while  slowing, it continues until
I'm near stopped.  I can't tell if it's occuring at higher speeds, due to the
typical cacophony of noise).

The noise is like a powerful, low frequency hum.  No real grinding or pounding
:>), but it's worrisome nonetheless.  The accompanying vibration is kind of
like one of those magic fingers beds in cheap hotels (or so I've heard).  

I checked the tightness of the trans and motor mounts.  They *seem* OK, but
they're still the prime culprit, in my mind (even though they're new).  Any
thoughts?  Is there a certain way to diagnose motor mounts without pulling the
lump?

Jeff Jackson
73 SIII 88

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 22:35:30 +0100
From: Marijn van der Himst <marijn@multiweb.net>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

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From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au>
Subject: RE: Win95 Icons and Cursors
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:48:00 +1100

Sounds like fun. I'd love a copy of the cursors and icons. I know of a
couple of 90s available local to me, for less than $25k, but I'm in NZ,
so its probably not much help. BTW the going rate for a S2a over here is
anything up to NZ$4k, and the importation of LHD vehicles is difficult,
but not impossible.
TIA,
 Richard, 1973 S3 SWB
New Zealand.
 -

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From: bcw6@cornell.edu
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:37:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 2.25 heads

Does anyone know if a 7:1 can be safely decked to make an 8:1 or even a 
9:1 head? A preliminary estimate looks like I'll need to take off about 
100 thou to get to 8:1. It looks ok to me, but I was wondering if there 
was anything that would cause me trouble. Thanks, and merry christmas!

Braman

66 IIA petrol

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:59:56 -0500
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: 2.25 heads

bcw6@cornell.edu wrote:
> Does anyone know if a 7:1 can be safely decked to make an 8:1 or even a
> 9:1 head? A preliminary estimate looks like I'll need to take off about
> 100 thou to get to 8:1. It looks ok to me, but I was wondering if there
> was anything that would cause me trouble. Thanks, and merry christmas!
> Braman

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> Braman
> 66 IIA petrol
Yes thats how its done, I can't remember how much is taken off though,
it says on europarts's web page under the series stuff...

matt

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:02:37 -0800
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Win95 Icons and Cursors

Chuque Henry wrote:
> A long time back I made up some simple animated LR cursors and some
> icons.  I made a spinning LR badge for the 'wait' cursor, added an arrow
> to the badge for 'working in background' and a color changing pointer to
> round things off.  I also made some Series and Defender icons to
> represent my favorite programs.  I sent a bunch of them out to people
> who wanted them, and thought I would offer to e-mail them to anyone who
> wants them again.
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> represent your Rover.
> -

Sure love to have those icons etc, and will keep a look out for any 
Defenders, although we don't have much around these parts. Maybe a key 
chain, manual........

Con Seitl  --- whose also been called "Pig" :-O
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Man in my engine
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:18:37 -0800

I'd check the thrust bearings as well.  Rev the engine while watching
the crank shaft pulley. if it "floats" around, the thrust bearings are
gone.  Mine floated back and forth about 8 mm. before I replaced the
bearings.

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Steve Rochna [SMTP:75347.452@compuserve.com]
>Sent:	Saturday, December 20, 1997 8:33 AM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Man in my engine

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>Thanks in advance.
>Steve Rochna (hunting for the guy with the rivet gun)

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:19:16
From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Detroit lockers 

When these are installed on(in) Rover type(10 spline) diffs. What is the
effect on those  rear axle half shafts? I could see two different outcomes.
1- the load is spread to both axles and they break less often. 2- this
causes more strain on the weak points and they break more often. I would
really like #1 to be the case.
Also what about the limited slip Detroit diff. for the front, same Rover
axles etc.?

Jim Wolf

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:17:53 -0500
From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: Detroit lockers

James Wolf wrote:
> When these are installed on(in) Rover type(10 spline) diffs. What is the
> effect on those  rear axle half shafts? I could see two different outcomes.
> 1- the load is spread to both axles and they break less often. 2- this
> causes more strain on the weak points and they break more often. I would
> really like #1 to be the case.
> Also what about the limited slip Detroit diff. for the front, same Rover
> axles etc.?
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> axles etc.?
> Jim Wolf

There is a company in england who can help you out a lot with this, I
believe they are called Automatic Conversions, and I think they are
subscribed to the list, if you can't find them email me and I'll dig out
their e-mail address...

matt

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 22:15:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Iltis trivia, was Canadian Military Defenders!?!

I saw in Jane's Military Logistics today that Bombardier, in Quebec got a
license from VW to make all the Ilti back in the 80's. I guess that makes it
an American vehicle. ;-)

Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:27:24 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Club news

For those R.O.A.V. members on the list (there are about 40 on this and the 
CSO lists), the next issue of The Gearbox was delivered to the postoffice 
this evening...one day late.  (It's been at the printers for a week.)  With 
heavy mail and the holidays, you'll probably get 'em by the weekend. 

The annual meeting will be held January 31;  to be held at the Norfolk Yacht 
and Counrtry Club, a reservation form w/ menu options is in the newsletter.  
As nominations for club officers must be received a month before the 
meeting, this doesn't leave much time to return the nominations.

The club still has a good supply of T-shirts from all of the past events, 
even a very few from the first Mid-Altantic Rally.  Most sizes are 
avaialble, except XXL.  All are $15 except the most recent which is $18; 
include $2 postage per shirt.

Merry Christmas to you all.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:31:41 -0800
From: jory bell <jory@org.org>
Subject: which series tranny is better (in context)? [+ parts forsale?]

so i am going to sell one of my series rovers soon... the nice one
(galvanised frameup rebuild, OD, roof rack, mansfield heater, second gas
tank with plumbed filler, D90 door tops, trillions of parts replaced over
the years, yada yada). i need to decide whether it is worth more with a
series 3 or late series 2a tranny., the series 3 gearbox was recently
rebuilt, but is making a weird noise in 2nd gear and presumably needs some
work (i just pulled it out tonight). the 2a tranny is fine (my 2nd rover is
a project where i am going to replace the series engine and tranny) and
also ready to come out. on the one hand, the series 3 tranny is full
syncro. on the other, the 2a is considered more rugged. opinions? all
things being equal, i would go with the 2a since then i wouldn't have to
bother with fixing the 3 tranny, but i don't want to be stupid concerning
resale value/desirability either.

::jory

ps: i guess i will sell whichever one is not used in the ser 3, as well as
the engine (some unknown malady killed the engine when jason labranch was
driving it n the highway and we towed it here and haven't looked at it too
closely) as well as the rustfree frame/axles on the 2a (ok, i am probably
going to do a coiler conversion of the 2a - there, i've said it. fram
recommendations anyone? is designa the only game around in bolt up
solutions?)

so anyway, if anyone is seriously looking for one or all of these items,
let me know. however, i am pretty busy right now and not that desperate to
sell, so please refrain from lowball offers :) i am located in the sf bay
area in california, usa.

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From: Autoconv <Autoconv@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 04:57:05 EST
Subject: Re: Detroit lockers (reply)

We find that number 1 is usually the case, the shock loading is reduced as the
wheels are not spinning and then biting. The is not to say that a 10 spline
shaft will not fail, it will just fail less often.

The 24 spline has a larger root diameter and is thus stronger, especially when
made from an upgraded material.

Regards

David Ashcroft (Automatic Conversions UK)

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