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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:54:22 +0800 From: Ed Hefferon <hefferon@omen.net.au> Subject: sliding door windows Hi After owning several SIII's and now a Defender 110, IMHO the sliding door window is a much better setup. It now takes four or five turns to get the window up or down, with the winder down near your right (or left) ankle it can be awkward at times and not very quick. It looks like it would be an easy task to convert the door to a sliding window setup. Has anybody seen or heard of it being done? I probably should have just switched doors from the old SIII as it looks like they would have fitted but they were so crappy looking I didn't bother. cheers Ed in Wanneroo ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com> Subject: SAS Pink Panther Colour Code Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:43:36 +1100 From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:59:02 +0000 Subject: Re: SAS Pink Panther Colour Code Ron wrote: >>Check the Tamiya model kit for the Pink Panther. It's sure to give >>you the right colour. Richard Marsden replied: >Visions of purchases of 10,000 little tins of Humbrol/Airfix/Tamiya >paint.... To which I respond: Cheeky bugger ! 8-) She'd be an expensive paint job! Regards, Ron Beckett Emu Plains, NSW, Australia '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila) '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual check my home page at http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com> Subject: RE: sliding door windows Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 12:12:00 PST Early 110s had the sliding windows, believe the military ones had them as well. I think sIII doors will fit. Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT ---------- Hi After owning several SIII's and now a Defender 110, IMHO the sliding door window is a much better setup. It now takes four or five turns to get the window up or down, with the winder down near your right (or left) ankle it can be awkward at times and not very quick. It looks like it would be an easy task to convert the door to a sliding window setup. Has anybody seen or heard of it being done? I probably should have just switched doors from the old SIII as it looks like they would have fitted but they were so crappy looking I didn't bother. cheers Ed in Wanneroo ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Johan van Staden" <JCVS@gold.up.ac.za> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:09:50 GMT+2 Subject: Double clutching Hi all. Could one of the old dogs describe their technique. I learned do double clutch on an old Ford 3 tonner, but it seems to work differently on the Landy. Shifting up is no problem, but I don't get it right when shifting down from 3 to 2 (crunch crunch). On the Ford one had to speed up the gears by reving the engine just the right amount and then shift very quickly. Johan van Staden Gold Fields Computer Centre for Education Faculty of Science, University of Pretoria Pretoria 0002 South Africa Tel: x-12-420 2470 Fax: x-12-420-3874 ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:04:47 -0400 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Smoking 2.5D 90, paste like engine oil Jon Dunster, Head of Computer Support Servic wrote: > Thanks to all those who sent messages with advice about my 2.5D 90 > and its 9000 a day habit. > The upshot of it was that I took it to a Diesel engine workshop > (Powerdrive in Portsmouth, UK) and had the injectors replaced. They > were demonstrated to me on a rig and were sending out thick jets > rather than atomising. [ truncated by list-digester (was 25 lines)] > The questions... Has anyone experienced this kind of problem ? What > could cause the engine oil to go so bad (sooting up ? Over fuelling When was the oil changed last? the most common cause of oil sludging is seriously extended oilchanges. John and Muddy( who gets new oil at 2500 miles) > Cheers for any help > (please CC any reply to jond@chichester.ac.uk, thanks) > -------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Dunster > Head of Computer Support Services > jond@chichester.ac.uk > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:09:44 -0400 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: sliding door windows Ed Hefferon wrote: > Hi > After owning several SIII's and now a Defender 110, IMHO the sliding door > window is a much better setup. It now takes four or five turns to get the > window up or down, with the winder down near your right (or left) ankle it > can be awkward at times and not very quick. It looks like it would be an > easy task to convert the door to a sliding window setup. Has anybody seen > or heard of it being done? I probably should have just switched doors from [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] > cheers > Ed in Wanneroo Ed don't chop em up some one out there will buy / swap/ trade for the series type doors. It will save you some work and you could net a few $$ I certainly would if I was in the Land of Skippy. John and Muddy (Who's windows slide except when they're frozen) ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 05:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Spoto <tspoto@az.com> Subject: Re: sliding door windows The new style versus old style door thread was discussed on the LRO South Africa list earlier this year. Yes they are interchangeable, however not planning on doing it myself, I did'nt pay any attention to whether there are any minor problems involved. I don't believe there were. You might ask that list however. Tom Spoto '72' 88" Truck cab with quarterlites from a Perth breakers yard '67' 88" with tailgate brought back from a Darwin breakers yard On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Ed Hefferon wrote: > Hi > After owning several SIII's and now a Defender 110, IMHO the sliding door > window is a much better setup. It now takes four or five turns to get the > window up or down, with the winder down near your right (or left) ankle it > can be awkward at times and not very quick. It looks like it would be an > easy task to convert the door to a sliding window setup. Has anybody seen [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)] > cheers > Ed in Wanneroo ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:30:57 EST Subject: RE: sliding door windows In a message dated 12/17/97 7:52:30 AM, you wrote: >Early 110s had the sliding windows, believe the military ones had them as >well. I think sIII doors will fit. >Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT And what came after the sliding windows for the 110 doors? Didn't they then get "roll-down windows with the SIII style door latches" doors? I haven't seen too many photos of 110s with these dors, but I'd sure like a set. One day I want to look at a mid-80's 110 (Tell me if I'm right, Scott) to see if the doors from that era will fit my 110 with some striker modification. Don't see why not? I'm not too keen on the current door handles, these being the horizontal black things with the button to press, as opposed to the series gate-latch type. Barring that, I also wouldn't mind sliding windows. I just can't stand these door latches. They've already jammed in a semi-closed position, and I know I'm not the first to experience this. pat 93 "terrible door handles" 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:33:11 EST Subject: Re: Religious Content/Land-Rover Content In a message dated 12/17/97 1:14:30 AM, you wrote: >III Thou shalt not love thy Land-Rover more than thy wife; as much, but >not more. Gee, why am I not married?! ;-) pat 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mark Sullivan <marks@dataflowsys.com> Subject: Brakes: Will they ever stop? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:49:30 -0500 Does anybody know of the trick to getting the brake pads installed correctly against the cam adjusters on a 109. Also, does it matter if the top spring is on the inside or the outside of the pads? ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:49:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Religious Content/Land-Rover Content My wife makes me have at least as many pictures of her in my office as I do of my rovers!! Women shudder at the idea of being loves less than a car!! There is a fine line between loving your rover and loving your wife and it tis a wise man who knows which to do when!! Chris 91 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:55:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Brakes: Will they ever stop? Back the cam adjusters right off (I assume you did this, to get the shoes off?) We then made a "tool" out of 6mm steel rod, bent into a hook shape. This was hooked into the shoe, and applied my father's weight, pulling on the "tool" (against the spring), and I levered the shoe into place on the brake cylinders with some (heavy duty) pliers. With such a hook, its probably possible to do it as a 1-person operation, but we found that you definitely need to put your weight against the spring (my father isn't light!). Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) marks@dataflowsys.com on 12/17/97 01:49:30 PM Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com cc: (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC) Subject: Brakes: Will they ever stop? Does anybody know of the trick to getting the brake pads installed correctly against the cam adjusters on a 109. Also, does it matter if the top spring is on the inside or the outside of the pads? ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:04:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Brakes: Will they ever stop? Springs need to be at the rear on both top and bottom on the 109 - anything else will give you problems. As far as getting the pads in place on the pins, first off make sure you've got them the right-way round (front and back shoes on the correct positions). If not, the pins won't line up. Then hook the tops in place in the cylinders and use a pair of water-pump pliers to ease the bottoms into the grooves. Works for me..... -ALan ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com> Subject: RE: sliding door windows Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 14:16:00 PST Yep, my 110 has door handles like the sIII. Far better than the newer ones but they can be a rust trap. The doors like mine should fit a Defender no problem but you will need the striker as well. The old style striker is a far sturdier item, a friend of mine had problems with his '89 110 with the striker coming loose, I reckon mine would need a bomb blast to shift them:-) Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (doors NOT for sale) ---------- In a message dated 12/17/97 7:52:30 AM, you wrote: >Early 110s had the sliding windows, believe the military ones had them as >well. I think sIII doors will fit. >Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT And what came after the sliding windows for the 110 doors? Didn't they then get "roll-down windows with the SIII style door latches" doors? I haven't seen too many photos of 110s with these dors, but I'd sure like a set. One day I want to look at a mid-80's 110 (Tell me if I'm right, Scott) to see if the doors from that era will fit my 110 with some striker modification. Don't see why not? I'm not too keen on the current door handles, these being the horizontal black things with the button to press, as opposed to the series gate-latch type. Barring that, I also wouldn't mind sliding windows. I just can't stand these door latches. They've already jammed in a semi-closed position, and I know I'm not the first to experience this. pat 93 "terrible door handles" 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:25:36 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: RE: Tyre on bonnet visibility (The bonnet kit is still in the closet because I can't find a 3/4" drill bit >with a small enough piece to fit the chuck on my drill. And I don't want to >buy a huge drill just to drill one hole.) Find someone with a lathe.Turn down the drill shank to fit the chuck. Drill bits are left soft at the shank end. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:34:27 -0800 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Clutch Flush Con P. Seitl wrote: > After blowing out all the old rubber eatin' and > dissolving brake fluid, what should I use to clean the lines? Is it good > enough to leave as is or should I try to flush it with another type of > cleaner? It may not seem like much, but I'm going to have to do the > brakes soon as well. I'd use alcohol, I've tried other stuff to flush systems and it has always swelled the flex lines shut :( Alcohol shouldn't have that effect) ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:36:26 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: RE: Gay bashing in the UK... >the (currently, alas) most common usage: a derogatory term for a homosexual. Untrue.Sorry Roger,but what you say applies only in the US.In England it is used in its proper context viz,a meatball served with chips and mushy peas,or a bundle of sticks. Similarly the word dike(or dyke) is a ditch,pure and simple. Please dont make the mistake of assuming that which applies in America,applies outside it.It doesnt,necessarily. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:22:11 +0000 Subject: UNIT Logo UNIT Logo in grey: http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other07.jpg Looks a bit boring, can anyone remember the colours? Richard (ex-UNIT SIII 109 FFR, honest) ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com> Subject: Re: Clutch Flush Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 15:20:00 PST Seven pints of guiness always works well for flushing my system:-) Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (yes it's getting close to Christmas and I'm bored) ---------- From: matt Subject: Re: Clutch Flush Date: 17 December 1997 09:34 I'd use alcohol, I've tried other stuff to flush systems and it has always swelled the flex lines shut :( Alcohol shouldn't have that effect) ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DEFENDER@ibm.net Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:33:49 -0500 Subject: leaving for a while I just got offered a REALY GOOD JOB and am going to be leaving my present one. I may be away from the list untill around the middle of January. I am posting this just in case anyone is trying to contact me. Until then, may your cars be muddy, your ditches deep, and your rocks large and jagged :") William & Beast ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:03:56 -0400 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Triumph Spitfire question (no LR content) Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote: > A friend is purchasing one of these, and I want to drop a radio in it for > ferry-travel communications. > Do these little monsters have a cigar lighter, or plugs like an LR? > Alan/Mr. C They have the lighter but watch it cause with the top down yer stogie will burn down reel quick. John ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:06:05 -0600 (CST) From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net> Subject: Re: Music At 09:20 AM 12/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >same bite. BTW, I saw somthing on tv the otherday, I think it was >called south park. They had a puppet show of a fight to the death match Maybe I'm just getting old, but I thought that was one of the stupidest shows I'd seen in a long time. (Then, t'other day, the guy on AMC says, "Let's do a little word association... When I say 'Pin-up' whar name comes to mind?" I instantly replied "Betty Grable", which, of course, was who was talking about...) Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:06:02 -0600 (CST) From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net> Subject: RE: Music At 09:01 AM 12/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >I agree!! The music definately has to be heavy and fast when off-roading. >I like James Taylor but somehow "Copperline" just doesn't cut it when your >up to your *ss in muck!! Viloent Femmes work nicely as well!! I dunno... I like Vivaldi's Lute Concertos (or any Vivaldi concertos for that matter.) Bolling might be cool too. And, of course, the blues. oh, and space music. (Ray Lynch seems rather apropos.) None of those are particularly heavy or fast. Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:09:06 -0800 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: sliding door windows NAS 90 ragtops have two-piece doors with the same sliding windows as the military 90s & 110s have, so it can be done. The NAS station wagons have the winding type windows. C ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:17:04 -0500 Subject: RE: Music Vivaldi's Gloria is also nice, but only when i'm stuck in traffic or on a trip. Bach's Brandenburg Concerto's work nicely too. Off-roading just seems to me to require somewhat more aggressive musical selections. Pantera's "Vulgar Display of Power" is a definate!! But, in the end "To each his(or her) (to be PC) own!" Enjoy Chris 91 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:42:21 +0100 (MET) From: Terje Krogdahl <tekr@nextel.no> Subject: Re: Still looking for actual experience with parabolic springs On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Faye and Peter Ogilvie wrote: > Is there anybody out there who has tried custom or parabolic springs or > any other spring than the stock spring or stock non oem springs that could > give us some input. Especially someone who has had them on their vehicle > for some time to test the performance over time. Well, I don't have parabolic springs myself, but a fellow NLRK member has Santana parabolic springs on his 88" IIa, and he wrote a short piece in our club magazine this month. A quick summary: Ride is smoother, as the springs are softer. They are progressive, though, so they offer more resistance when they are compressed. Six weeks after mounting the springs his car has not sagged an inch. (My plain old leaf springs sagged about 1 1/2 inch during the first week after mounting) Body roll has not increased siginificantly, and axle articulation seems to have improved a bit. He has long (1-ton) shackles on the rear springs, and the rear axle wil sometimes twist a bit in turns, as the outer springs compress a bit. He (and I) believe this would be less noticable with shorter shackles. Anyway, a bit of four wheel steering probably helps on the turning radius. The springs look rather odd, they have only two or three leaves, and have two-inch spacers between them on the ends. He's very happy with them. They were difficult to obtain though, he bougth them from a Dutch company. I can find the name if there's any ineterest. Terje Krogdahl 1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol Norwegian Land Rover Club www.land.rover.no ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:45:30 +0100 (MET) From: Terje Krogdahl <tekr@nextel.no> Subject: Re: Speedo problems On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, john cranfield wrote: > Tom you have a common problem that is almost certainly cause by the need > to tighten a nut that lurks behind the flange at the front of the rear > drive shaft. It is a fairly simple job if the flange nuts are kind to I think there is a small pitfall here. Make SURE that no part of the felt gasket gets trapped between the nut and the flange. I've had a small bit of the rubber trapped here, and as the rubber wears away, the nut loosens. The felt gasket is usually too thick, so it could be a good idea to replace it with a new one, and cut it down a bit to fit better. Terje Krogdahl 1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol Norwegian Land Rover Club www.land.rover.no ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:52:29 -0800 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Still looking for actual experience with parabolic springs There are at least three sources, you can find them where I posted them on the roversnorth boards... if you do decide to get them. matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:52:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Iltis and Land Rover Opportunity On Mon, 15 Dec Paul Quin of Victoria BC wrote that the Canadian army is looking at replacing the Iltis and that they are looking at the Hummer and the Land Rover Defender. We North Americans should get together on this and encourage the Canadian army to get Defenders! Think about it. LRNA says they will not import any more Defenders (and they are all plushmobiles anyway). Ten or fifteen years from now the Canadian army will get rid of those old Defenders and WE WILL have a shot at them as surplus. Banzai! Look to the future to get your old cars from the past. Plan and act now to ensure a future supply of oldie goodies. Paul Donohue 1965 Land Rover Dormobile (which in 2012 will be only 47 years old) Denver ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:25:31 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Re: Canadian Military Defenders!?! At 09:40 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Tom Spoto wrote: :I've been in contact with someone who just recently bought one. Price I :think was CDN$2400. Licensed for the road. Now can I bring one into the :States? Possibly easier than a Lada. Oh as a side line after people meet :me they generally quote the poem about marching to the beat of a diferent :drummer. Sorry Tom, they are not old enough to be imported into the US to be licensed on the road. -Michael ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Seymour, Gareth-Snr Technician" <GSeymour@mp.sihe.ac.uk> Subject: SFO/Reno Visit Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 17:53:00 PST Flying to SFO on Dec. 24th until 3rd Jan with a few days in Reno between 29th/2nd. Anyone wanting to meet up for a drink or even better some offroading drop me a line direct to the above address. Also any good 4x4 shops for stuff like Procomp shocks, spots and detroit diff lockers in these areas ???? Thanks in advance for any info, Gareth ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:45:27 -0800 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Iltis and Land Rover Opportunity DONOHUEPE@aol.com wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec Paul Quin of Victoria BC wrote that the Canadian army is > looking at replacing the Iltis and that they are looking at the Hummer and > the Land Rover Defender. > We North Americans should get together on this and encourage the Canadian > army to get Defenders! Its an army, if its anything like ours, encourage them to get hummers, then they'll go and get defenders!!! But the way things go they'll probably end up with whatever is worst for the typical Grunt. like plastic canteens!!! matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Subject: RE: Somethings still loose! Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:06:31 -0800 I replaced my fly wheel ring gear a few months ago. Mine was missing about 1/3 of its teeth and still managed to turn over - all-be-it a bit noisily! I took it to a machine shop and had them re-surface the flywheel and put the new gear on. Paul Quin 1961 Series II 88 Victoria, BC Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Cooper, Paul" <P.Cooper@shu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Religious Content/Land-Rover Content Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:11:01 -0000 But how many of use are that wise Paul C Cooper Admin Computing Sheffield Hallam University Room 5301, Surrey Building Pond St Sheffield Tel:(01142) 534560 Fax:(01142) 533577 Email: P.Cooper@shu.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dillard [SMTP:cdillard@Aholdusa.com] Sent: 17 December 1997 13:49 To: lro@playground.sun.com Subject: Re: Religious Content/Land-Rover Content My wife makes me have at least as many pictures of her in my office as I do of my rovers!! Women shudder at the idea of being loves less than a car!! There is a fine line between loving your rover and loving your wife and it tis a wise man who knows which to do when!! Chris 91 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Chris Dillard"<cdillard@Aholdusa.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:21:18 -0500 Subject: RE: Religious Content/Land-Rover Content The world May never know! Chris 91 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:29:46 -0500 Subject: RE: Music for offroading? I think, other than the obvious Valkyrie references, that Holst's "Planets" symphony gets my vote - especially the Mars (War God) movement. Either that, or the John WIlliams rip-off known as the "Star Wars" soundtrack. ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Subject: RE: Iltis and Land Rover Opportunity Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:38:28 -0800 One thing I do know about the Canadian army is that it prides itself on it's British heritage (I hear more bagpipes here in Victoria than when I visit family in Glasgow). They also like to stand out from the American army when they do maneuvers together. So there may be hope. Paul. >-----Original Message----- >From: matt [SMTP:nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 12:45 PM >To: lro@playground.sun.com >Subject: Re: Iltis and Land Rover Opportunity [ truncated by list-digester (was 22 lines)] >the typical Grunt. like plastic canteens!!! >matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: Re: Double clutching Johan asked: >Could one of the old dogs describe their technique. [snip] Actually, the proper term is double-declutching. The idea, on downshifts, is to briefly stop in neutral during the shift, with the clutch engaged, to rev the engine so that the speeds of the two gears which are about to be engaged will match. To do this, as you are braking, you declutch (push the pedal down), shift into neutral, release the clutch pedal so that the engine is connected to the input shaft and its gears, stab the trottle (with your right foot on the brake but angled so that the toe of the foot can mash the throttle pedal without taking the foot all the way off the brake--thus the term "heal-and-toe downshift") to rev the engine a bit (1,000 RPM or so), then, as the revs start falling, declutch again and engage the next lower gear at the engine speed that matches the speed the engine had enjoyed before the shift, releasing the clutch pedal and continuing to brake. Now, I know that this sounds as if it'd take several minutes to perform but when you get the hang of it, it's as natural and seamless as any other shift. Due to long years of driving a Series II then a run of IIAs, I usually still double-declutch when driving my SIII. How do you know when the speeds are matched? By looking at your tach :^} Seriously, you'll find that you know by feel, sound, whatever, and in no time at all you'll be impressing all your neighbors that you knew Tazio Nuvolari. Cheers, Gran Manuel Fangio ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Double clutching Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:52:54 -0800 > Could one of the old dogs describe their technique. I learned do > double clutch on an old Ford 3 tonner, but it seems to work > differently on the Landy. Shifting up is no problem, but I > don't get it right when shifting down from 3 to 2 (crunch crunch). > On the Ford one had to speed up the gears by reving the engine just > the right amount and then shift very quickly. The written description of how to double clutch is fairly straightforward. I am not sure how to describe "correct" technique since it is something that you have to get a feel for doing. The way I learnt to do it was driving without using the clutch pedal. (I've actually been forced to do this twice when the clutch cable broke on two different cars.) After a quick touch of the gas in neutral, feel as the revs fall and it will slip into gear. It should not crunch. As I recall, it is a tad more difficult shifting down and you should not shift down to reduce the engine speed. Perhaps the problem downshifting may be caused by your shifting down as part of the engine braking. I think if you heel-and-toe that may reduce the crunching. Perhaps a more experienced user can give a better or more correct answer. Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:16:04 -0500 Subject: Re: UNIT Logo - colours? Dunno if this is right, but white background and dark-blue printing comes to mind... Time to dig into the videotapes.... Alan/Mr. C. (who's ex-the brigadier - honest!) ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Braking down Con Seitl wrote: >After blowing out all the old rubber eatin' and dissolving brake fluid, >what should I use to clean the lines? I used 95% isopropyl alcohol, then blew the lines dry with compressed air. Now is a good time to switch to silicone - you have a clean, new system. Cheers *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas" | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Dates Gerry Elam wrote: >Does anyone have the dates available for Billings '98? Billing is July 17-19. The week long ARC is May 22-31. Cheers *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas" | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: Sandra Harris <sharris@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Canadian Military Defenders!?! On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Tom Spoto wrote: > think was CDN$2400. Licensed for the road. That was the first batch. SUbsequent batched seen at CADC here in Ottawa are clearly labeled as parts. Makes things a little more difficult. > Now can I bring one into the States? Nope. 25 year rule. These don't meet DOT spec. So the straightforward route is out. Rgds, Dixon (Now, there are a few of the first batch down at a chaps place (forget the name) near Carleton Place southwest of Ottawa. They can be licenced... ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD <NADdMD@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:42:45 EST Subject: Re: Triumph Spitfire question (no LR content) In a message dated 97-12-16 14:09:03 EST, you write: << A friend is purchasing one of these, and I want to drop a radio in it for ferry-travel communications. Do these little monsters have a cigar lighter, or plugs like an LR? >> I don't know about the electrics, but I saw a stripped spitfire block at the machine shop --I tend to hang out there at times ; )-- and asked about it. Apparently they're a very light block, easily cracked, little room for boring out and easily warped. Basically the gang at the machine shop had a very low opinion of the spitfire block. On the other hand, they loved the 2.25 petrol block, were very suprised at the weight and felt it was designed to live the hard life. BTW, they really enjoyed the lifter assembly--simple but durable. Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:07:37 -0500 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: Visit to England We'll be in England from Boxing Day thru January 2, mostly in Rutland, but also traveling some including Surrey. Any suggestions for LR related activities that week? Regards, David Cockey Rochester, Michigan, USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:47:05 -0800 From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard) Subject: Castrol Brake fliud Hi All, In following the barke fluid thread,and the cost/or lack of availability of Castrol brake fluid, I just bought 2 bottles of it at the local NAPA store where I usually get it. It cost $1.99 (American) It is a normally stocked item at NAPA and the price could vary according to the locals. If they don't stock it tell them to look up part number 502. cheers, Bob Bernard ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:52:16 -0500 From: matt nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Castrol Brake fliud Castrol lma is available at local parts plus/western auto stores here too, and its just as cheep as good regular fluid matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:11:20 -0500 From: matt nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: pink pathers I've just gotten hooked to the internet from home so I'm a lot closer to my references, no more taking the bus 16 miles to get to the college library just to check email... so I thought I'd post some info I found in a book I have callet "the elite and their support" Its like a catalog of sorts for the armies of the world, or so it appears. anywat there area few landrovers in it four of which are LRRP type pink panthers one built on a 109 by: Delvex engineering Ltd silverhills Road decoy Industrial Estate newton Abbot, Devon tq12 5nd, england a 110-basically has four or eight cylinderpetrol blah blah blah, extra heavy duty suspension,two spare wheels, blah blah... and a range of 750 miles next is the 4g10 long range patrol vehicle Glover Webb Limited, Hamble Lane, Hamble, hants, so3 5ny, england unladen/laden weight 1600/3580kg anti roll bar, sun compas, GPMG, 120 gals of fuel, 20 of water, sand channels on sides and bonnet next hotspur s6e-139xlr long range patrol vehicle Hotspur cars Ltd, ynysygerwn avenue, Aberdulais, Neath, West Glamorgan, UK 110 type six wheel drive based on the Sandringham six conversion two tonne payload range of 1500 miles v8 standard 4000 rounds of 7,62 two GPMGs satelite nav systems, hf and vhf radios hydraulic centre power take off, solar panels... last s180 long range surveillance vehicle glover webb ltd... based on 110 range of 400 miles, fully lined against mine attack, and other bits somewhat like the others... hopefully someone found this interesting, if I ever get my scanner(it sback ordered) i'll scan in ALL the vehicles and data and whoever wants it can have it if any one has any questions about this book Email me matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Dixon" <tomd@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re NEW ZEALAND Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:46:34 +1300 Mark asked about New Zealand >I am interested in determining if there is any active New Zealand subscribers to the list ? :Yes I know of at least three.. Richard,Gavin and I >The web lists at least two major clubs but no e-mail address :If it really is important I will try and find one with an e-mil address >is this a Landrover friendly country :Yes till a cocky catchers you sneaking through his back paddock with rifle and dogs on board >how do series vehicle/parts prices compare to the USA :depends where you shop. some days I think it would be cheaper to have open/transplant heart surgery >Are there prohibitive green regulations :Not really....we frown upon you smoking the green stuff but if you do get caught. you and me then get to meet on a professional basis >is there any phenomenal assessed tax to import or operate older vehicles :not really.. the government has decided that we do not have enough unemployed here so they are removing tariffs on imports so the factories can close down and place more people on the dole. Haven't figured out there train of thought yet. >Are diesel preferred :Yep cause the nice contractors like to leave mini tankers on there work sites so the diesel heads can steal the stuff. >what are taxes in general like :Bloody high if it moves they tax it and if it doesn't they tax you >tolerance or distain of Americans ? :We are a multi cultural country. All people are welcome. Hell we take the triads and Mafia in and the government will even sell you citizenship for a mere $500,000 NZD, real cheap. The only time visitors should worry is when they meet us on the sports field. we are not Nancy's down here ( that is not a dig at gays, lesbians or any other alternative sex style type people) we do not wear pads or helmets. we just play and play hard summed up.. This is a beautiful country with beautiful people (Exclude the government) who will help anybody in trouble. We do not glow in the dark(nuke free) and the play grounds for all outdoor hobbies are I think unbeatable. Ps Some guy put out a softcover book on 4x4 tracks in N.Z have had a look at it and discussed with several other off roaders and that at the end of the day we decided it is expensive toilet paper.. well in our humble opinions anyway. Cheers.... Tom Dixon ZL2UPG 79 series 3 lwb (in many pieces) tomd@clear.net.nz ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:37:02 -0800 From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com> Subject: Re: Canadian Military Defenders!?! Michael Carradine wrote: > At 09:40 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Tom Spoto wrote: > :I've been in contact with someone who just recently bought one. Price I > :think was CDN$2400. Licensed for the road. Now can I bring one into the > :States? Possibly easier than a Lada. Oh as a side line after people meet > :me they generally quote the poem about marching to the beat of a diferent > :drummer. [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] > to be licensed on the road. > -Michael Well then, what happened to NAFTA. They are after all North American built. Tom ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:46:04 -0800 From: Daniel Oppenheim <daniel5@best.com> Subject: Season's Greeting [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_882449164==_" ] Hoping you all have the warmest and kindest Holidays. Love, Daniel and Julia --=====================_882449164==_ [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="demo52.exe" ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 52 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:34:46 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Free markets Re: Canadian Military Defenders!?! At 06:37 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Thomas Spoto wrote: :Michael Carradine wrote: :> At 09:40 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Tom Spoto wrote: :> :I've been in contact with someone who just recently bought one. Price I : [ truncated by lro-lite (was 13 lines)] :> to be licensed on the road. :> -Michael : :Well then, what happened to NAFTA. They are after all North American :built. Good question! What happened to free trade in general? All the US pressure to open foreign markets such as in Japan, have resulted in the Japanese having no import restrictions or regulation regarding automobiles, while we in the US can not import anything under 25 years old without invoking the wrath of Kahn. Methinks perhaps it is we who are living in the 3rd world! -Michael www.landrover.net www.unimog.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 53 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:44:02 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Re: Season's Greeting At 08:46 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Daniel Oppenheim wrote: :--=====================_882449164==_ : :Hoping you all have the warmest and kindest Holidays. : :Love, : :Daniel and Julia :--=====================_882449164==_ [digester: Removing section of: :Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="demo52.exe" ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 54 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ALeXaNdE12 <ALeXaNdE12@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:20:53 EST Subject: Re: Hello Fellow Land Rover Owners Greetings, My name is Alex Hachiya and I would just like to introduce myself to the list. I am new, as you must have already concluded, and I live in Southern California, USA. I currently own a 1995 Range Rover County LWB, with Epsom Green on the outside, and Light Sorrell on the inside. I thoroughly love this vehicle, albeit some very frustrating problems. I purchased this vehicle new on Dec 12, 1994, and since then I have had some persistent and annoying problems come and go, and come back. I have an oil leak from the center differential i believe, and if you kneal down and look under the vehicle it is visible. I have pointed this out to the dealer, and they claim to have "resealed" this, and "replaced" that. To this day that drip persists. The light that illuminates the climate control system is very fussy. On some occations it lights up, and some times it doesn't. After a few skilled taps <g>, it lights back up sometimes. The most embarrassing of all problems, is the squeak in the rear seat clamps. The folding rear seats lock into a latch, and when the rear seats are occupied, they make an annoying noise, and also very abasing. The last problem (yes I know I am sounding ridiculous by now), is the squeak the sub-woofer makes when playing music. It also is very aggitating. I love this car. I would never trade it in for anything other than another Range Rover or Land Rover products. If only these problems would be fixed, then I could be content, rather than being embarrassed to take clients out to lunch. I guess no one is perfect. Anyone out there relate? Any comments? Thanks all for your time, and I appologize if you think I am too negative. Cheers, Alex ------------------------------[ <- Message 55 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:58:56 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Re: Hello Fellow Land Rover Owners At 01:20 AM 12/18/97 EST, Alex Hachiya <ALeXaNdE12@aol.com> wrote: : I have an oil leak from the center differential... To this :day that drip persists. Have your man servant check fluid levels periodically, and place a discreet towelette or finger bowl directly under the leak when parked. : The light that illuminates the climate control system is very fussy. On :some occations it lights up, and some times it doesn't. After a few skilled :taps <g>, it lights back up sometimes. Tap it in tune to Bach, Mendelson, or Beethoven. No one will notice. : The most embarrassing of all problems, is the squeak in the rear seat :clamps. The folding rear seats lock into a latch, and when the rear seats are :occupied, they make an annoying noise, and also very abasing. Have vaseline applied to the mating surfaces. Works great for other mating surfaces too. : The last problem (yes I know I am sounding ridiculous by now), is the :squeak the sub-woofer makes when playing music. It also is very aggitating. Don't play squeaky music (?) : I guess no one is perfect. Anyone out there relate? Any comments? Alex, such serious problems with our Range Rovers make the old time Land Rover owners on this LRO list howl ;) That's why we have moved such important discussion to the RRO/CSO (Range Rover Owner's / Coil Sprung Owner's) mailing list. Write to <majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net> and subscribe by writing "subscribe rro" in the body of the message. Kind regards, -Michael 89-RR, 72-88, 50-80 Michael Carradine Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 Unimog Network Int'l, Box 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 USA <cs@unimog.net> _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page now relocated at www.unimog.net/sales ------------------------------[ <- Message 56 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:01:16 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: Re: Season's Greeting et al Daniel Oppenheim wrote: > --=====================_882449164==_ > Hoping you all have the warmest and kindest Holidays. > Love, > Daniel and Julia Thanks Daniel & Julia, One thing though.... BTW, received some great e-Xmas cards yesterday. The Ozzie one's a scream (decidedly blueish but a scream nonetheless). They're .exe files and I'll put them on http://Adventures.co.za/landy/doodads for anyone who wants one (thereby avoiding the flames which poor Daniel & Julia are copping as we speak) in about 5 minutes. Happy holidays all! Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine http://Adventures.co.za ------------------------------[ <- Message 57 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:39:33 -0800 From: Daniel Oppenheim <daniel5@best.com> Subject: The real Season's greetings (we hope) [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_882455973==_" ] Well all you patient folks, Julia is still laughing about the small error Daniel made. We're trying to become semi-cyber-literate so we can eventually send you pictures of Daniel wrestling with a lion... Happy Holidaze J & D --=====================_882455973==_ [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Holiday Card.EXE" ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 58 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:47:11 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: e-Xmas cards (absolutely no bloody L-R content!) Hi All, OK, have loaded 4 zip files onto http://adventures.co.za/landy/doodads Xmasguy.zip (nice desktop animation: rates PG) Pressie.zip (also nice desktop animation: rates PG) Deer.zip (now you know why Rudolph's nose is so red: rates All) Hohoho.zip (Oz Xmas wishes: rates X) Disclaimer: I claim no copyright whatsoever over the files, nor am I responsible for any offence which may be taken over their content, nor for the effect it may have on anyones feelings or sensibilities, nor on the fact that you could quite possibly be fired for playing the hohoho.exe on a multimedia machine at work! Enjoy them or ignore them, it's up to you. Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine http://Adventures.co.za ------------------------------[ <- Message 59 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:59:41 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: Re: The real Season's greetings (we hope) Daniel Oppenheim wrote: > --=====================_882455973==_ > Well all you patient folks, Julia is still laughing about the small error > Daniel made. We're trying to become semi-cyber-literate so we can > eventually send you pictures of Daniel wrestling with a lion... > Happy Holidaze [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)] > Happy Holidaze > J & D Um, no... not yet. Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine http://Adventures.co.za ------------------------------[ <- Message 60 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:03:58 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Re: The real Season's greetings (we hope) At 10:39 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Daniel Oppenheim wrote: :--=====================_882455973==_ : :Well all you patient folks, Julia is still laughing about the small error :Daniel made. We're trying to become semi-cyber-literate so we can :eventually send you pictures of Daniel wrestling with a lion... : :Happy Holidaze : :J & D :--=====================_882455973==_ [digester: Removing section of: :Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Holiday Card.EXE" ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 61 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:43:11 -0500 From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net> Subject: Re: Double clutching > Johan asked: > >Could one of the old dogs describe their technique. [snip] > Actually, the proper term is double-declutching. The idea, on downshifts, > is to briefly stop in neutral during the shift, with the clutch engaged, to > rev the engine so that the speeds of the two gears which are about to be > engaged will match. To do this, as you are braking, you declutch (push the > pedal down), shift into neutral, release the clutch pedal so that the engine [ truncated by list-digester (was 27 lines)] > Cheers, > Gran Manuel Fangio Get your RPM's right, and you don't have to use the clutch going up or down. I've learned that through owning several Mack MR690's with Mack 5- speed transmissions (totally non- synch). Learned very quickly on these that the more you use the clutch, the more you grind. Try it! -- Winn Bearden P.O. Box 464 Americus, GA 31709 912-924-6513 (H) 912-928-4984 (CELL) ------------------------------[ <- Message 62 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:47:28 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: Re: Double clutching >impressing all your neighbors that you knew Tazio Nuvolari. Granny,your age is showing.....:-) Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 63 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971218 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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