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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:30:57 -0500 From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Boy...Its Quiet Were is everyone?? Is it just me? Or was there no mail on Sat.? Was I kicked off for some odd reason? David G ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 07:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu> Subject: Re: Boy...Its Quiet On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, David L Glaser wrote: > Were is everyone?? Is it just me? Or was there no mail on Sat.? > Was I kicked off for some odd reason? > David G Saturday's digest had 45 messages in it. The major may have decided it didn't like you. IF you get the realtime list, you should get two copies of this. If not, then you have been unsubscribed. Don't worry, it probably isn't anything personal. > Were is everyone?? Is it just me? Or was there no mail on Sat.? -------- David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG* -- no terrier ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:32:13 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Burn-Out Cure music
Ron Beckett wrote:
> I want to know why Erik Barr calls his LR "TARDIS"
> Everyone knows that the Tardis was bigger inside than out. This doesn't
> apply to a LR. Perhaps it is because the good Doctor was always under the
> control panel trying to keep the old girl going? Oh for a "sonic
> screwdriver".
You have forgotten the most obvious TARDIS was a time machine! and as
for it being bigger inside than out, Tardis is a Dormoble. What is even
more remarkable that Eric is Canadian student and yet he knows about Dr
Who.
John and Muddy (who is a good friend of Tardis)
> Regards,
> Ron Beckett
> Emu Plains, NSW, Australia
> '86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
> '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
> '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
> '67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual
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> check my home page at
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover
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]Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 08:49:54 -1000 From: kiotee@mcn.net (Roy Caldwell) Subject: Re: Non LR-Military Content (Heliographs) Dave, As the last reply noted, the heliograph generally does refer to the tripod mounted unit. The us air force and army still issue the small signal mirrors you mention. I have another question for you or the list in general. Does anyone have access to a field manual for the Howard Pattern sun compas? This is possibly the type you see mounted on Pink Panthers. This is a hand-held version. Wondering if maybe originaly there was a set of solnar tables or something that were used rather than just the time and shadow method. That's my Rover content. The tag on the case shows that it was in Brit Mil inventory up until 95. Roy-Rovers in the Rockies - Not lost, just don't have sun for dirction. ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Mathew Stace" <landyman@hotmail.com>
Subject: List probs (no LR content - sorry)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:33:44 GMT
Can anybody help me with this, the last two messages I have sent to the
list have not appeared in my in-box, as they usually do. I am still
getting all (I think) of the other messages, so is this a strange new
feature of the list, whereby people don't recieve copies of their own
messages, or is my email account going funny?
Once again, sorry for the non-LR content,
Cheers,
Mat.
Mathew ('79 tall paintballer beer) & Bertha ('68 SWB SIIA 2.25 petrol)
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]From: BarrieWyLR <BarrieWyLR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:42:26 EST Subject: Re: Front Wings Hi Quint, I may need a pair of those wings. Are they for SII or newer? Be happy Barrie 60 SII SWB Rugbeater ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:51:34 +0100 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: Something's loose! [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------61993B5D76FEFC8DBAAB1CE9" ] why is it that my 88 opnly breaks down when my wife is driving it? This is not a proposal for a new politically incorrect threat "wife-bashing in Denmark" - just a curious observation! "When i just started the ening it rattled" she says. But it did start, and the rattling stopped. I tried to start it myself, several times, and true enough, a rattling sound from the flywheel/gearbox region. The motor starts fine, and the rattling stops, which leads me to suspect STARTER MOTOR. The clutch works fine, and there is no rattle under motion or idle - just under start. This is the engine which has teased for a while when starting - it is slow to start, though it does not lack compression. I suspected the earth connection to the starter about two weeks ago, and sure enough, the earth braided cable had fallen off, but replacing it did not solve the problem. But if the starter motor / bendix gear is rattling, why will it start? Sounds like I must pull the starter motor to find out - just thought I'd check in here to see if anyone else has had similar symptoms, and solved them before. I await sage advice with baited breath.... (why do land Rovers always sense the coming of a public holiday, and like a child, demand "extra" attention at these seasons?) Adrian Redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark --------------------------------------------------- telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 76 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 50 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------- --------------61993B5D76FEFC8DBAAB1CE9 ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:38:59 -0500 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: Re: Something's loose! Adrian Redmond wrote: > I tried to start it myself, several times, and true enough, a rattling > sound from the flywheel/gearbox region. The motor starts fine, and the > rattling stops, which leads me to suspect STARTER MOTOR. The clutch > works fine, and there is no rattle under motion or idle - just under > start. Check that the starter motor bolts are tight, and if not "Locktite" and tighten. Our pickup had a loose starter motor, but not loose enough to cause problems. Then I found a pile of Al chips in the bottom of the bell housing, and discovered the hole the pinon passes through was machined oval. It looks like the previous owner had a problem, fixed it, and now it was about to re-occur. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:11:20 -0800 From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Dr.Who...was Burnout.... john cranfield wrote: > Ron Beckett wrote: > > I want to know why Erik Barr calls his LR "TARDIS" > > Everyone knows that the Tardis was bigger inside than out. This doesn't > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)] > > control panel trying to keep the old girl going? Oh for a "sonic > > screwdriver". [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)] > > check my home page at > > http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover Tardis indeed is bigger inside than out, and Dr. Who, ( or whoever is playing his part this time) would find himself at home in this gem. Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:20:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Nick Fankhauser <nickf@co.wayne.in.us>
Subject: Herman's Ammeter
The ammeter question a couple of days ago bugged me until I thought about it
for a bit. I think the two answers that Herman received were both right,
because it's really a trick question-
What bugged me was that the ammeter is supposed to show both charge and
discharge. If the battery sits in the middle of the system thusly:
Gen/Alt--------Battery----------Load
Then inserting the ammeter into *either* side only gives you one of the
functions. However, if you look at the circuit this way:
Gen/Alt--------\
>----------------Battery
Load-----------/
Then you can install the ammeter in the single wire going to the battery,
and you have both functions. I haven't looked at a charging system yet to
confirm this, so this is mostly a thought experiment, but I'm pretty sure it
can be no other way.
The part that may be confusing when you look at the actual vehicle is that I
would also guess that there are at least two "unmetered" components- You
normally wouldn't want the starter and horn to run through the ammeter
because they briefly draw a whole pile of current, and any ammeter that
wouldn't be pegged by them would barely register at "normal" current levels.
So the circuit should end up looking somewhat like this:
Gen/Alt--------\
>--Ammeter--------------Battery
Load-----------/ /\
/ \
Horn Starter
Now how you'll manage to trace all of this in a "modern" rover is another
problem entirely....
-NickF
PS: Just to weigh in on the issues of apparent *real* concern to us all, In
relation to all of the flaming lately, I simply wish that everyone would
refrain from referring to anyone else or any group with contempt... But I
realize that all of us will be angrily moved to do so occasionally. We have
to learn to accommodate occasional outbursts as well as diversity if we plan
to coexist in any situation. I'm not all that angry at the bashing of
various sorts that go on once in a while, but the folks who manage to do it
regularly should realize that when it becomes apparent that anger is a
habit, not a fluke, I (and I hope many others) begin to back off and hope
for the sake of your neighbors that you don't own guns. One of the many
advantages to E-mail is that you have all the time you want to think before
you hit send. I'm puzzled that with this advantage at our disposal, we can
still manage to be so uncivil so often.(hasty dive off of soapbox- end rant-
thanks for tolerating me- please don't shoot!)
Nick Fankhauser |Wayne County Information Systems Department
NickF@co.wayne.in.us | http://www.co.wayne.in.us/wayneco
http://www.infocom.com/~nickf
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]Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:47:11 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: Something's loose! Adrian Redmond wrote: > The motor starts fine, and the > rattling stops, which leads me to suspect STARTER MOTOR. The first thing to check is the starter motor mounting bolts. If they'reloose just tighten them up (securing with a moderate thread locking compound) and try it again. cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:28:07 -0700 From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com> Subject: Re: Dr.Who...was Burnout.... At 02:11 PM 14/12/97 -0800, Con P. Seitl, wrote >Tardis indeed is bigger inside than out, and Dr. Who, ( or whoever is >playing his part this time) would find himself at home in this gem. It also broke down a lot and the poor old Doctor was forever tinkering and repairing it. In one episode the Doctor is chided by one of the Lords of Galifrey for still using such an obsolete time machine and he responded that he couldn't bear to part with the Tardis because she had so much "character". So Tardis is an eminently suitable name for a LR. Rick Grant 1959, SII "VORIZO" rgrant@cadvision.com www.cadvision.com/rgrant Cobra Media Communications. Calgary, Canada Aboriginal and International Relief Issues ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:43:14 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Herman's Ammeter
Nick Fankhauser wrote:
> The ammeter question a couple of days ago bugged me until I thought about it
> for a bit. I think the two answers that Herman received were both right,
> because it's really a trick question-
> What bugged me was that the ammeter is supposed to show both charge and
> discharge. If the battery sits in the middle of the system thusly:
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> / \
> Horn Starter
The last schematic is close I'll try to do one:
Alt-----/
/
/------Ampmeter-----/ solenoid-----starter----ground
/ /
/ /battery-----ground
Load----/
This shows that you will get a - reading on the ampmeter if there is
more load than the alternator or generator can provide for since there
is a drain on the battery.If there is more power available from the
alternator then it will flow to the battery and show a + reading and
charge the battery.
I hope this will help your confusion
John and Muddy
> Now how you'll manage to trace all of this in a "modern" rover is another
> problem entirely....
> -NickF
> PS: Just to weigh in on the issues of apparent *real* concern to us all, In
> relation to all of the flaming lately, I simply wish that everyone would
> refrain from referring to anyone else or any group with contempt... But I
> realize that all of us will be angrily moved to do so occasionally. We have
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> NickF@co.wayne.in.us | http://www.co.wayne.in.us/wayneco
> http://www.infocom.com/~nickf
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]From: "Tom Dixon" <tomd@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re Gay Bashing Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:47:14 +1300 Hello all This so called "guy basher" may in fact be a closet queen?.Who is having trouble within himself and who knows.... maybe soon he will come out?. So instead of flaming him and possible standing on his macho (wanna come out) toes. we should all be helping him to find his true identity?. Cheers.... Tom Dixon ZL2UPG Merry Xmas tomd@clear.net.nz ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:59:01 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK(Bill Adams) Thank You Bill , for your unconditional support . I feel that everyone understands what was implied by Mike`s words . I wish that was no one out there needed to use degrading terms to boost their own esteem, but unfortunately not everyone is at the level. You and all of the Washington area Rover friends have demonstrated true friendship and courage to confront societies` hurtful views , again I thank you. All of the other people that emailed on this subject, if it was a term that IS generally considered offensive/stereotyping . I wonder if you would write the jokes and nonsense that was written?????? It`s something to think about. Thanks, Rick ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:16:12 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... I don`t think that it applies to me , however what I`m saying is that it didn`t have to be put that way. A "simpering faggot'' he could have just said ''a%$hole'' and caused NO GROUP of people to be needlessly stereotyped. BTW, Chris were are you from? I would like to think that the Rover owners here are more educated , because that`s what I`ve run across in the many outings with the various Rover Groups I belong to. Rick''standing up for human rights'' Valentino ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:24:58 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... If you are also aware ''faggot'' was a term often used in midevil England when burning homosexuals at the stake. (the onlookers would shout "faggot'' to have more wood thrown on the fire) If no one stands up to language like this it must be considered appropriate behavior, but it`s not. Rick Valentino ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:34:52 -0800
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Herman's Ammeter
I think it depends on what you want the ammeter to do.
So, I'll use "Charge Source" for alternator/generator, and do the rest so that
the diagram is independant of -VE or +VE. To do this, I'll use C for the
non-ground side of a connection and G for the ground side of a connections.
Thus if the car is -VE, then - is the Ground side, and + is the non-ground side.
If you want a strict indication of whether the charge source is charging the
battery then connect it like this:
Charge Source-----------+ +---switch---starter---gnd
+--(C ammeter G)--+
Load--------------------+ +---battery (non-gnd)
|
+---horn switch---horn---gnd
This will register zero if you're using all the juice, slightily positive if
you're charging, and negative if you're using more power than the charge source
can make up for.
If you want to know how much current you're using, then do it this way:
Charge Source---battery---+starter switch---+(C ammeter G)---load---gnd
| |
+--starter--gnd |
+--horn switch-horn-gnd
This will tell you how much current you're using. You'll then have to remember
the output of your charging source and do the comparison yourself. The starter
and horn are not on the ammeter in this diagram.
I use the latter, because I like to know what load is being drawn by whatever's
on at the time (heater motor, fog lamps, etc.).
C
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]From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:37:42 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... In a message dated 97-12-13 19:19:26 EST, you write: << I double-dog-dare anyone to accurately spot who on this list is white, black, asian, gay, straight, irish, jewish, amish, muslim, male, female, human, android, alien, or just belly-button lint. Growing up in San Francisco, I was always pretty open-minded, but never really thought about it. Then one day I met a friend face-to-face for the first time. Amy Gallagher had beautiful, long, flowing black hair, lovely skin... and a full beard and moustache. My other friend Robert had been logging on as Amy and no one knew better. What kind of body, what particular set of beliefs, where birth took place -- none of these matter by themselves. Yes, they may influence the actions of an individual, but never in the same way, and there is no way anyone can predict how someone will turn out. All you can do is listen to what someone has to say, see what they do, and base your opinions on *who* they are, not *what* they are. I have friends who are devoutly religious and friends who are strongly athiestic. I spend time with people who hug everyone, and people who can't stand touching anyone. Most importantly, on this list, we are all Land Rover Owners, and, whatever ever else we may be, we have at least that much going for us. Still, let's all remember that although we share a common love/hatred of Land Rovers, we do differ in other ways and avoid remarks that, while perhaps not intentionally hurtful, may indeed cause others to be upset. There are plenty of words out there (and we can always make more) so let's just skip the ones that are derogatory to other list members. (Yes, this is a sore subject with me -- I grew up having eggs thrown at our house and swastikas painted on our garage (yes, in San Francisco!). Judging someone by skin color, sexual preference, religion, geographic background, etc. is just plain stupid. And if you want to flame me for that, be my guest, just do it privately.) >> This is how a dominant class of people justify their actions................................... and as history shows it`s also very dangerous RGDS, Rick ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:33:50 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... In a message dated 97-12-13 19:19:26 EST, you write: << muslim >> ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:29:49 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... Certainly, one has the right to say (and think) anything one wants. However, there are those that find certain terms and ideas unpleasant or offensive. So, the option is either 1) refrain from using terms that offend others or 2) lose the participation of those others. As this is a Land Rover list, I personally welcome the input of *everyone*, so a little more care picking words seems a small price to pay for full participation (Although a round, gravy-covered salesman is a rather funny image.) Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ Uncle Roger, I couldn`t have said it any better! Thanks for your support. Rick ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:41:52 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... In a message dated 97-12-13 22:42:41 EST, you write: << faggot). In the red blooded world of landy ownership in the UK Mike's >> ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:48:01 EST Subject: Re: Gay bashing in the UK... In a message dated 97-12-13 22:42:41 EST, you write: << Subj: RE: Gay bashing in the UK... Date: 97-12-13 22:42:41 EST From: sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com (Davies, Scott) Reply-to: lro@playground.sun.com To: lro@playground.sun.com For christ's sake, Mike only referred to a car salesman as a 'simpering faggot', he didn't insult anyone on this list (he didn't call one of us a faggot). In the red blooded world of landy ownership in the UK Mike's language was rather restrained. OHHHHHH, i`m sorry i didn`t know we were dealing with UK chevy owners(i would expect as much) ! Anyone who devalues a class of people insults all humans: remember there`s only ''one world'' Rick''getting it off the chest''Valentino ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:53:22 EST Subject: Re: Range Rover stock stereo codes just make sure that it`s not a stolen unit:^) ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover <RykRover@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:51:39 EST Subject: Re: Question Re: RR radio codes also some units you have to push the ''program'' button to bring code access up ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au> Subject: RE: Tyre on bonnet visibility Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:54:00 +1100 " pat 93 "bonnet kit is in the closet" 110 (The bonnet kit is still in the closet because I can't find a 3/4" drill bit with a small enough piece to fit the chuck on my drill. And I don't want to buy a huge drill just to drill one hole.) " Why not use a 3/4 hole saw? These are ideal for cutting holes in metal (and thin wood) panels, and will easily handle aluminium. The type of hole saw I have in mind is like a hack saw blade, but bent round in a continuous circle. The one I've got (made by Starrett?) has a 1/4" shaft so easily fits the 3/8 chuck of my electric drill. The best way to use one of these is to drill a small (1/4" or less) pilot hole which then acts as a guide for the centre of the hole saw. These should be easily available from a good hardware/tool store. BTW, electrical type persons use them to cut holes for buttons, switches, lights etc. in control panels, so could be a possible sause. Richard. S3 SWB, New Zealand ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au> Subject: RE: Speedo problems Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:06:00 +1100 " A friend of mine owns a 1973 series 3. He has a problem with the speedo it is the second one he has had fitted and has developed the same problem. What happens is the needle is bouncing up and down erratically. Then it may work normally for a while. Any help would be greatly appreciated Cheers.... Tom Dixon ZL2UPG 79 series 3 lwb (in many pieces) tomd@clear.net.nz " Tom, Make sure the end of the cable is fully engaged in the back of the speedo. This caused me erratic/non operation and ultimately unnesseary work and expense in replacing cable and speedos. I thought I had got it right, but I some how the cable came loose and despite my best efforts I had not pushed it back in far enough. The little clip on the end of the cable should easily fully engage in the groove on the back of the speedo. I found it was a b#@%&* of a job to get it to go in the last little bit. Anything else isn't far enough. Richard, 1973 S3 SWB (with new speedo and cable, now working just fine thanks) New Zealand ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:11:01 -0500 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: Re: Tyre on bonnet visibility Eyres, Richard RP wrote: > Why not use a 3/4 hole saw? These are ideal for cutting holes in metal > (and thin wood) panels, and will easily handle aluminium. The type of > .........BTW, electrical type > persons use them to cut holes for buttons, switches, lights etc. in > control panels, so could be a possible sause. Another tool for putting a 3/4 in hole in aluminium is a chassis punch. These are used to punch holes in electrical chassis without distortion. A small hole is drilled through which passes the bolt which pulls the two parts of the punch together. ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:06:54 -0800 From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net> Subject: Answer Re: RR radio codes At 04:17 PM 12/14/97 -0500, Ed <ETMFOUR@aol.com> wrote: :A friend with a different (still factory) model of radio in his rangie gave :me his instructions, worked first try. :press and hold the band button for several seconds before trying to type in :the code. this SHOULD blank out the bad code and allow the new one to be :reset. It works!! You're right, hold the BAND button down for a few seconds, then the CODE prompts returns allowing to reprogram the radio. Thanks Ed, and all those who tried answering this question for me. PS- LRNA will supply the radio code based on the radio serial number if you bring the vehicle in to a dealer. Regards, -Michael www.landrover.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:54:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Making three quarter inch holes, was Tyre on bonnet Go to Home Depot and get a hole punch tool. You drill a smaller pilot hole and bolt the tool pieces trough that, tighter, and viola, a neat cut hole. Better yet, borrow one from a plumber or an electrician. Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say: Land Rovers for Agriculture! Land Rovers for Industry! Land Rovers for Recreation! Land Rovers forever!! D.V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:57:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Weather Report Pat sez: "My official Land Rover Weather Reporting option informed me that it rained while I was away from the vehicle. I found puddles on the floor." Tradition. It's a wonderful thing!! Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say: Land Rovers for Agriculture! Land Rovers for Industry! Land Rovers for Recreation! Land Rovers forever!! D.V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:05:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Filters I looked for the VW part number for the little sock, but it's not on my hard drive. The sock goes in from the bottom on a VW tank, but would go over the pickup tube on a LR. NOPI carries it and they have a toll free number in the Minicar/truck and VW mags. I've also used a chain saw air filter, and the screen out of an Automatic, like a ZF. Trim the material to fit over the tube, solder up the side and attach to the pipe with solder, brazing or even just a nylon wire tie, and Bob's yer uncle!! Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say: Land Rovers for Agriculture! Land Rovers for Industry! Land Rovers for Recreation! Land Rovers forever!! D.V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS <SPYDERS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:16:50 EST Subject: Fuel line strainers >From CB Performance Catalog /1994 page 161: Fuel Strainer/Outlet Kit "The most overlooked fuel delivery problem is a plugged, damaged or missing Fuel Strainer. We've seen fuel pumps replaced, carburators rebuilt and complete engine tear-downs due to plugged fuel tank strainers. The replacement cost is low and installation is easy. Every VW must have one. It fits in the bottom of your fuel tank and helps keep the various gas tank contaminates (sic) in your fuel tank and out of your fuel system. This is one part you really don't want to leave home without. Fits just about every VW fuel tank on the road. Part # 3189 (800) 274-8337 (209) 733-8222 Farmersville, CA Ok, standard disclaimers, no connections, I don't even own a VW anymore, :-(, etc., I just saw someone (Sandy Grice perhaps?) looking for one of these parts. I did change mine on my beetle when I added a larger capacity fuel tank. Easy to change on veedubs. It was a nylon sock about 2.5 inches long with plastic ribs to hold it up. pat 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:27:50 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved? Well, I finally got some time to get the seat box out and start looking at Mathilda's SIIA gearbox to find the 2nd gear problem. [The problem was a failure to enter 2nd that started as a popping out of 2nd and ended as a complete refusal to engage. All other gears were OK. This appeared after a mild bit of offroading/forest road driving back in Oct.] I inspected everything in place and all the gears seemed fine ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:37:12 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved? Ooops. Lets try that again, sorry. I finally got around to getting into Mathilda's gearbox (SIIA) to find out what caused a failure to enter 2nd gear (all other gears were OK). The problem developed on a mild off-road trip (forestry roads for the most part) last Oct. Inspecting the gears revealed everything to be apparently fine. Which had me somewhat puzzled. However, I happened to glance at the shifter cover and noticed that a small bolt on the rear of the cover which projects into the shifter path had a loose retaining nut on it. A check of the manual revealed this to be the 2nd gear shifter motion limiter! Ah ha! Had I been more knowledgeable of the gearbox this should have occurred to me earlier. What must have happened is the vibrations from the unpaved road loosened the nut that helps retain the bolt. The bolt then slowly worked its way forward progressively impeding and finally preventing engagment of 2nd gear. Time to snug it up to specs and loctite it! So if anyone has the symptoms of having difficulty in getting into only 2nd gear you might want to check the bolt. Of course I've not put everything back together and run it yet, but I'll bet that's the cause. The function matches the symptoms exactly. cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:40:17 -0800 > Well, I finally got some time to get the seat box out and start > looking at Mathilda's SIIA gearbox to find the 2nd gear problem. > [The problem was a failure to enter 2nd that started as a popping > out of 2nd and ended as a complete refusal to engage. All other > gears were OK. This appeared after a mild bit of offroading/forest road > driving back in Oct.] > I inspected everything in place and all the gears seemed fine Jeremy, Is there more? I'm curious because I have a problem going into second (only). I have to be really careful or it starts to grind (change at low rpms). I always double clutch. This only happens when the vehicle gets warm. It changes fine when cold. It engages OK and doesn't pop out. Does anyone have any idea as to what is going on? Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:18:35 -0800 From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Out to Play in a ..... A real good snow-storm is upon us here. Wind is howling, snow is being driven down sideways, and visibility is down to about 20 ft. And where is my Rover, but in the garage waiting for clutch slave. Every good storm comes and Pig hides in the garage.....just had to go out and play. Used the excuse I needed a coffee, and I really don't need an excuse for that, so headed out in the family Windstar and PLAYED!! Different heading into snowbanks and deserted roads with 2 wheel drive and no winch, but what the hell, had to get the adrenalin flowing. Got my coffee, was back in an hour and half......What's this??? I hear Nick's just started Millie up in the yard.....gotta go show him how to drive in the snow, maybe get him to go do some chores while I "park" it for him ;-> Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:01:35 -0800 From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com> Subject: Re: Making three quarter inch holes, was Tyre on bonnet Solihull@aol.com wrote: > Go to Home Depot and get a hole punch tool. You drill a smaller pilot hole > and bolt the tool pieces trough that, tighter, and viola, a neat cut hole. > Better yet, borrow one from a plumber or an electrician. > Cheers!! > John Dillingham > near Canton, GA > KF4NAS LROA #1095 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)] > Land Rovers for Recreation! > Land Rovers forever!! D.V. Your talking about a Greelee or Greenlee Punch. I've picked up two different sets at garage sales. They range from about 3/4" to 2" in the holes they will make in thin gauge steel or aluminum. Tom Spoto ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:01:34 -0500 From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net> Subject: Re: Range Rover stock stereo codes > Hi all, > First off, sorry for the mega cross-posting, I just know there are many who > are not subscribed to all the lists. Thanks for indulging me. :) > *sigh* > I'm looking to put in an original RR stereo back into my '90 RR because the > first one got full of mud (don't ask). :) [ truncated by list-digester (was 38 lines)] > '90 RR > Portland, OR I've got the radio out of my old 1988 RR. If you can use it (i.e. get the code), you can have it. -- Winn Bearden P.O. Box 464 Americus, GA 31709 912-924-6513 (H) 912-928-4984 (CELL) ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:59:47 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved? FHYap wrote: > Is there more? Yup. Hopefully you caught the second post. I send the 1st too early. > I'm curious because I have a problem going into second > (only). I have to be really careful or it starts to grind (change at low > rpms). I always double clutch. This only happens when the vehicle gets > warm. It changes fine when cold. It engages OK and doesn't pop out. Is this on the S1? I don't have any particularly good ideas.I wonder if there is sufficient wear on the gear that as it heats up and expands it starts to exceed specs for engaging or the assembly becomes too loose. That does seem wierd though. cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:00:19 -0800 > Is this on the S1? I don't have any particularly good ideas.I wonder if there > is sufficient wear on the gear that as it heats up and expands > it starts to exceed specs for engaging or the assembly becomes too loose. > That does seem wierd though. No, its on the S2A. I switched to Castrol synthetics and it was worse. I ended up mixing it with Power Punch and it appeared better .. but once the box is warm the problem starts. Maybe I should try 100% Power Punch punch in the gearbox. Frank ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Walsh" <tomw@best.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:34:33 +0000
Subject: Re: Mathilda's 2nd Gear Problem Solved?
> Ooops. Lets try that again, sorry.
> I finally got around to getting into Mathilda's gearbox (SIIA)
> to find out what caused a failure to enter 2nd gear (all other
> gears were OK). The problem developed on a mild off-road
> trip (forestry roads for the most part) last Oct.
> Inspecting the gears revealed everything to be apparently fine.
> Which had me somewhat puzzled. However, I happened to glance
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> Had I been more knowledgeable of the gearbox this should have occurred to
> me earlier.
Even I've seen one of those sorta disasembled ( thanks Jim )....
To bad you didn't see it 1st as it would've saved alot of effort!
All's well that ends well
TomW
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]Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:12:33 -0800 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: X-Files Sighting... Alien Terminator bad guy in tonight's X-Files was driving a Disco. Why is it bad guys are driving Land Rovers more these days (Playing God, the Saint, Strip Tease)? C ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@FS1-KFIH.AZR.NL> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:34:18 +0100 Subject: replace SIII chassis with SII chassis? Is It possible to use a SII chassis for a SIII '88 frameover. Is this a straight fit? Regards, Huub Pennings e-mail adress Pennings@kfih.azr.nl ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971215 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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