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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:11:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition - can it be removed?
Yes, it can, but there's a better way.
Buy one more set of points and put them in, properly timed and set.
Next, take the baseplate from a scrap distributor and install the Pertronix
unit on it.
Swap the two, being careful not to disturb the point setting, and bag the
old plate with some dessicant.
Time the engine with the Pertronix, and off you go.
Now, should the little electronic thingy fail you can pull two screws,
remove the plate and the magnetic ring and swap the points back in. I've
been forced to use this setup when my Crane ignition failed - 10 minutes
and I was on my way corectly timed and running fine.
Alan
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]From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:30:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: To A. Sanna/Message received. Thanks In a message dated 11/27/97 5:08:24 AM, you wrote: SUBJ: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Updated Website / November Newsletter >Message received. Thanks >Anthony R. Sanna >SACO Foods, Inc. >6120 University Avenue >Middleton, Wisconsin 53562 USA I think you get the prize for the most "Re:"s infront of a subject header. In any case, Message recieved at least five times now. Might want to check your Out Box... pat 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: lroshop@idirect.com Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:19:47 +0000 Subject: Re: LROi Nov & Dec I don't normally respond to mail like this but in this instance I feel it warrants some comment. Safari Gard are a young and growing company in a market where very few dedicated after market companies exist. Recognition in a magazine such as LROI serves two purposes. It helps the company by making their presence known and it provides readers with information on different products. I assume by the tone of the comments that Mike has personal experience of Safari Gard products and has had an unfortunate experience. All companies have problems from time to time and I see, and receive, complaints about the best of them. We have certainly devoted some time and space to Safari Gard but read on and you will see other companies being featured as well in upcoming editions. ARB are indeed mentioned and will continue to be mentioned as they work with us on this project. Enough said I think. I try to put a positive spin on this as we continue to maintain a serious North American presence in the magazine (and keep subscription rates down). Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:33:09 -0500 > From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com> > Reply-to: lro@playground.sun.com > To: lro@playground.sun.com > X-To: lro@playground.sun.com > Subject: LROi Nov & Dec > Strange thing here, I waited and waited for the Nov LROi and it finally > shows up friday, then I Dec shows up yesterday. I have never gotten a > copy delivered so late or so early ( Net 0 ) > I was kinda miffed when I was looking at Nov, I may be out of line > here, But it kinda looked like a big ad for "Safari Gard". I [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)] > johnsonm@borg.com > http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA) ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:57:32 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Subject: Left Wing needed I'm looking for a left wing for a series III... Will pay cash or do a parts/cash deal.. Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:58:19 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: Re: Left Wing needed Russ Wilson wrote: > I'm looking for a left wing for a series III... Will pay cash or do a > parts/cash deal.. > Russ Wilson > Leslie Bittner > Fort Pitt Land Rover Group > Pittsburgh, Pa. Phew! Thought someone was starting a political thread... Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine http://Adventures.co.za ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens) Subject: Re-Shafted, Thanks Hey all, Thanks to Con, Nate, Sandy, Graham, Russ, Paul, John and Richard (and anyone else I may have forgotten). The new half shaft is in, and just in time for a field test to Nate's for Thanksgiving Dinner. The process was much smoother than expected: I drained the diff; disconnected the propshaft; pulled both shafts (right one was broken); unbolted and removed the diff (heavy, but manageable); put the diff on the workbench; and worked a long, thin screwdriver past the pinion spindle and gave it a sharp tap. The piece of half shaft came right out! Disassembly and reassembly was a breeze compared to some of the other work I've done on the Rover. Once again, I couldn't have done it without the help from this list. Thanks again to all. Chris Stevens Towson, MD 1969 Series IIA 88" SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:28:15 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Subject: Re: Left Wing needed >Russ Wilson wrote: >> I'm looking for a left wing for a series III... Will pay cash or do a >> parts/cash deal.. > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 9 lines)] >> Fort Pitt Land Rover Group >> Pittsburgh, Pa. [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)] >into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine >http://Adventures.co.za RATS!! I saw that someone replied to my message and had a wing for me.... that's just not fair.. If this was a political thread started by me, I can assure you that it would have very little to do with the Left.... (Had to toss in some non-LR content) Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:24:53 -0800 From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Left Wing needed Russ Wilson wrote: > >Russ Wilson wrote: > >> I'm looking for a left wing for a series III... Will pay cash or do a > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 19 lines)] > >into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine > >http://Adventures.co.za > RATS!! I saw that someone replied to my message and had a wing for me.... [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)] > Fort Pitt Land Rover Group > Pittsburgh, Pa. OK , This'll make you feel better. Have Wing, will ship. Price negotiable, shipping not. Con Seitl 1973 III 88 "Pig" Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald) Subject: Re: new Rangie Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:04:09 GMT Don't you mean an R-2400 engine? On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 19:44:57 +1100, you wrote: >Hey, it's really twin V-12 engined and called the Lightning and will be >built, not in Solihull, but in a special new US factory called the >Skunkworks. I believe it will really fly! (only aviation buffs need read >this) >Regards, >Ron Beckett -- Gerald g@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:08:27 -0600 From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net> Subject: Re: Jumpstarting Hi All, Mark is right I had a motorcycle battery explode on a work bench when in high school. Luckly I was not hurt but my ear rang for three days. I always remove the cables from the car that started because there is less chance of explosion. Regards, Rob Davis_Chicago ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 19:00:01 +0100 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: Happy Thanksgiving (or whatever you guys say...) [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3535CD36593ACD674921A424" ] A Happy Thanksgiving to all our American cousins from the old world enjoy the turkey, but think of us, we've got to wait another month yet! Adrian Redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark --------------------------------------------------- telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 76 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 50 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------- --------------3535CD36593ACD674921A424 ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:36:12 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving (or whatever you guys say...) >A Happy Thanksgiving to all our American cousins from the old world >enjoy the turkey, but think of us, we've got to wait another month yet! Hey, we should still have some leftovers lying around by then...yummy Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh, Pa. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Deezil bob <Deezilbob@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:43:04 EST Subject: church hill tools Does anyone know if Church Hill tools (Northants, England) has a web site ? telephone # ? Also what would be the better diff ratio for a 2 1/4 ltr 88 diesel, 3.9, or 3.54. It has an overdrive and 7.50 x 16 tires with the 4.71. I am looking for a little more highway speed and a little less engine noise, Thanks in advance ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihull@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:15:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition - can it be removed? One caveat regarding the breaker plate method; The pertronix is timed differently. Justswapping out the breaker plates won't do. Maybe for a crane unit, but not an Ignitor. Just swapping back will result in a seriously retarded distributor, which *will* burn pistons and score cylinders within ten or fifteen miles. Cheers!! John Dillingham near Canton, GA KF4NAS LROA #1095 73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy" 72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1 Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say: Land Rovers for Agriculture! Land Rovers for Industry! Land Rovers for Recreation! Land Rovers forever!! D.V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Dixon" <tomd@clear.net.nz> Subject: Landrover screen saver and desk top Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:11:17 +1300 [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; ] charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Thought I would post the screen saver that I use along with my desktop background. The desk top has been altered from the original and there is no such club.... me just playing around and changing things. Cannot remember where I got them from. Cheers.... Tom Dixon ZL2UPG 79 series 3 lbw (in many pieces) tomd@clear.net.nz ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BCFBDD.959EFCA0 [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; ] [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: image/bmp; ] ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:18:30 -0800 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving (or whatever you guys say...) Thanks, Adrian. You got it right--that's what we say. Now I've got to go see if the smoker is too hot or too cold! C 8< > A Happy Thanksgiving to all our American cousins from the old world > enjoy the turkey, but think of us, we've got to wait another month > yet! ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:01:43 -1000 From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org> Subject: Re: church hill tools Doubt if you would get any more speed than the gear ratio you have now with your current setup (4.71 and overdrive). My petrol will take only slight hills in fifth o/d without a downshift. If your thought is to do away with the o/d, you might consider lower gearing but that will affect the four wheel capabilities. Think long and hard and about a lower rear end. Lower rpm without a concurrent increase in horse power will just mean cruising in 4th not 4th o/d or maybe even 3rd o/d. Of course you could fly down hill if you could find one long and steep enough to get the speed up above 70 mph. Someone makes a transmission conversion, I believe, that grafts the IIa transfer box onto a later model transmission with higher gearing. I don't see much advantage in that, unless you don't have an o/d fitted and/or need the power take off for something else. Another possibility might be 33/9.50/15 tires as they may be larger diameter than your 7.50/16's. You could also go to 265/16's which have a larger diameter and thus a lower effective gear ratio. The problem with both of those is the drag of pushing the fatter tire with the anemic four. If noise is your complaint, insulation would be cheaper and probably more effective as well. I wonder about the insulation trapping water, however, as IIa's are anything but water tight. Aloha Peter Ogilvie 1970 88 stn wgn 1965 109 pick up At 02:43 PM 11/27/97 EST, you wrote: >Does anyone know if Church Hill tools (Northants, England) has a web site ? >telephone # ? Also what would be the better diff ratio for a 2 1/4 ltr 88 >diesel, 3.9, or 3.54. It has an overdrive and 7.50 x 16 tires with the 4.71. I >am looking for a little more highway speed and a little less engine noise, >Thanks in advance >diesel, 3.9, or 3.54. It has an overdrive and 7.50 x 16 tires with the ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:42:00 -0800 From: Baron Waste <bwaste@imaxx.net> Subject: Gear Shift Knob Removal Could someone please tell me how to remove the gear shift knob for both the four wheel selector and the automatic transmission on an 89 Rover. Thanks in advance Bill Johnson ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:03:08 +1100 From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za> Subject: Binary postings (was Re: Landrover screen saver and desk top) >Thought I would post the screen saver that I use along with my desktop >background. The desk top has been altered from the original and there is no >such club.... me just playing around and changing things. Cannot remember >where I got them from. While the intention is no doubt good, the net effect of binary postings is to cause hassles for a lot of people. If you have large images, or screensavers, or anything else of that nature, no matter how cute you may think that they are, and no matter how much you may think that the rest of the world may want them, *PLEASE* don't just mail them off to the list. Either put them on a web/ftp site, or mail them to those people who want them. I am sure that I am not the only person who gets frustrated at having machines clogged up and Internet bills rising for something that is totally useless to me. Sorry if this sounds heated, but between binaries and our dear friend a Saco foods, I am getting very pissed off. paul ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) From: pscales@blvl.igs.net (P.S.) Subject: Stop sending unsolicited images!! >>Thought I would post the screen saver that I use... STOP SENDING UNSOLICITED screen savers, desktops, etc!! Twice now I have had to call my service provider and tell him to delete Land Rover messages, because my poor modem and computer and service provider get hung up on them. If you are so very proud of these images, I think we'd all prefer reading a two-line description of them, plus details of the site where we can go IF WE SO CHOOSE to include them in our lives. Sorry for the flame, to those who don't deserve it. Peter ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:44:30 +0100 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Gear Shift Knob Removal [digester: Removing section of: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E074C44B730D15E31C42AA63" ] They just screw off, anti-clockwise, If there is a locking nut below - loosen this first. When replacing - put on a locking nytm this will stop you tightening the know so much that the shaft bottoms inside the plastic thread and cracks its way through the top of the know. I have tried this once. -- Adrian Redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark --------------------------------------------------- telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 76 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 50 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------- --------------E074C44B730D15E31C42AA63 ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:52 From: James Mercer <james@babbage.cs.murdoch.edu.au> Subject: Re: the ass sanna Hi All, Maybe he is using the Lucas email system. Maybe the smoke leaked out of it. I mean what if he has got hold of one of those rare Land Rover computers, rumour has it that they will operate in upto 30in depths of coffee - quick check his desk for a puddle of 90wt. As much as I don't enjoy the spamming from his auto reply, I think you would find that something in those particular messages are triggering the wrong email filter (i.e. something in the header of those emails means that the message goes to his work inbox rather than his landrover inbox). Poor dude probably going to come back after his holiday only to find that he has pissed of dozens on normally friendly LRO's. Later, James. '71 S2a 88 >I just opened my mail and of 45 messages 16 were his message recieved > Not only is he annoying he must be a liar as he hasn't got the >message!!! > John and Muddy --- James Mercer Professional Officer Department of Information Technology Murdoch University Phone: + 61 8 9360 2790 Facs: + 61 8 9360 2941 Email: james@cs.murdoch.edu.au Email: j.mercer@murdoch.edu.au ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Dixon" <tomd@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: Binary postings (was Re: Landrover screen saver and desk top) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:17:49 +1300 Paul and lro Sorry for my mistake Re: Landrover screen saver etc and making it a general posting on The mailing list. It was so kind of Paul to point out the errors of my ways and I shall endeavour not to err again.The thought of been flamed over such a matter may drive me and my family into hiding.I will not enter into any further discussion re this matter as I have learnt my lesson and consider it closed. P.S, I do not have any friends at Saco Foods?. P.P.S, I think it is better to p***ed off then p***ed on.. just a thought Cheers.... Tom Dixon ZL2UPG 79 series 3 lwb (in many pieces) tomd@clear.net.nz -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za> Cc: Tom Dixon <tomd@clear.net.nz> Date: Friday, 28 November 1997 10:41 Subject: Binary postings (was Re: Landrover screen saver and desk top) >>Thought I would post the screen saver that I use along with my desktop >>background. The desk top has been altered from the original and there is no >>such club.... me just playing around and changing things. Cannot remember >>where I got them from. >While the intention is no doubt good, the net effect of binary postings is >to cause hassles for a lot of people. If you have large images, or >screensavers, or anything else of that nature, no matter how cute you may >think that they are, and no matter how much you may think that the rest of >the world may want them, *PLEASE* don't just mail them off to the list. [ truncated by list-digester (was 21 lines)] >Saco foods, I am getting very pissed off. > paul ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: LR Lawsuit Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 21:07:47 -0000 From: Brent Flanders <brent@pharmconsult.com> I am having email problems, therefore I do not know whether this has = been received yet or not. If you have read this I apologize for the = excess. Although I am getting in this discussion late, I would agree with = RoverNut@aol.com and heartily disagree with wheelman@shore.net. When = the company states as Rovernut does below "second to none" I expect = that, or at least to be comparable to my JEEP Grand Cherokee which = was awesome. >My point, and it can be construed no other way, is that when an expensive >part which is built for longevity purposes (ie, not the water pump) fails = at >the 50k, even 90k mark on a vehicle which was expensive and marketed as >second to none, then it is the company's responsibility to make it right. >> RoverNut@aol.com Anyway, I have owned a Grand Cherokee and now 2 Disco's (The 96 SE 7 = sieve listed below and a replacement 97 SE 7). My comment, which you may view as noteworthy or not, is that the = Grand Cherokee which I owned for 3 years was virtually trouble free, = a great 4 x 4. We do limited off roading, mostly in and around Vail = and Summit county in Colorado. The first Disco (96 SE7) was a major pain in the ass. I had more = leaks, failures and minor annoyances with this vehicle than I had = with all other vehicles I have ever owned added together. Even = though some are minor annoyances, admitted, it is my goal in life to = pay for the best when possible and to receive the best. The following is a log (later in email) of the troubles I documented = for LR; not to mention the following letter I sent to LR: Dear President: Why am I sending this letter to you? Because of my extreme disappointment with the total vehicle = experience we have endured thus far. My Experience After committing to purchase our vehicle, we were loaned a vehicle = for about a week until our new Discovery arrived, a very pleasant = beginning in the purchase of our new SUV. After waiting a week for = the vehicle, we were notified that they had located our model/color = at a dealership in Minnesota. Our dealer, xxx, notified us that the = vehicle would be ready to pick up and made an appointment for us to = come in. Upon arrival we first previewed the car as they were detailing it. = Immediately it was obvious that this car was used as a demo at the = previous dealership; carpet, seats, ceiling, dash, and other interior = areas were fairly dirty and had spots everywhere. Although we were = not the least bit excited about this we allowed them to continue to = clean it and proceeded with the purchase of this vehicle. After = about two hours of further cleaning and detailing by xxx the vehicle = was ready to take home. Although at this point we were extremely disappointed with the first = couple hours of the =B3Land Rover=B2 experience, we decided to put it = behind us and move on with our new vehicle. After a few days several issues began to crop up: Transmission leak Misfitting major interior trim pieces (left interior sail panel and = another larger rear cargo panel) Hose on power steering reservoir leaking Rear cargo cover torn Steering column bezel broken and falling apart loose on bottom of = steering column (occurred upon leaving dealership) Both front fog light adjusters broken Steering wheel not aligned horizontally (level) with road Rain leaking in around driver door window Rattle in rear door Rear window wiper did not work intermittently Hood vibrating when driving in wind Again, thoughts of what several people (in person and via the = internet) had said about the Discovery came to mind, =B3still several = quality control issues remain with this vehicle=B2 and =B3I know a = person who bought one and would never buy another=B2 and =B3purchase = another Jeep Grand Cherokee, you won=B9t be disappointed=B2 and many = more. Upon taking possession of a new nearly $40,000 vehicle I do = not expect to experience failure and or poor quality on any parts of = a new car. Sure, one or two minor issues can be overlooked, but look = at the above list. The reason I have decided to write this is that we just got back from = vacation last night and I have a new puddle of transmission fluid on = my garage floor beneath my Discovery. I suppose when I call xxx for = another service appointment tomorrow regarding the transmission leak = (this is the 3rd time), I think I will go ahead and have them fix: Another rear interior trim piece needs replaced (bad seam from = factory) Vent not working in the back seat Steering wheel still not level (3rd or 4th try to make level) CD changer door that doesn=B9t fit properly I delivered the vehicle for the above items to xxx. After leaving it = overnight, I picked up the vehicle the next afternoon. To my dismay = the only issue resolved was the steering wheel finally being leveled, = the remaining items all had to be ordered and be repaired in the = future. In addition, the dealership was kind enough to wash my = Discovery, but used a dirty towel to dry it and imparted several = scratches to my SUV. Yes, you could say that I am fairly tired of = the continuing issues with this vehicle. I am also concerned about = driving my vehicle with this transmission leak, although it is a = small leak, it really does concern me to drive it while I wait on the = parts to resolve the leak. At this point, quite honestly, I would rather have back my down = payment, closing costs (payments), taxes and license registration and = go purchase another Grand Cherokee. Then in the next year or so = maybe you can address the obvious quality control issues with this = vehicle and lure me back to purchase another Discovery or Range Rover. When I was called about a month after purchasing the vehicle I did = tell the Land Rover representative on the phone about many of the = above issues -- I never did receive a response. Although some of = what I list above may seem small, I believe the market theme that you = profess is Land Rover (above all) is an exceptional vehicle built = upon the standards set of a European Luxury Product. Being a small = business owner for over 10 years I understand the importance of a = quality experience and the value of referrals that it brings -- with = this experience I don=B9t know what to say when someone asks for an = opinion of this vehicle (we just got a lemon?). Should you feel as though there is some form of remuneration = available please either call xxx or email: brent@pharmconsult.com I will be waiting for your response. Sincerely Disappointed Date Problem Running Total 5/14/96 Purchase Date 6/10/96 Transmission fluid leak 1 6/10/96 Trim Panel in Cargo Area Does Not Fit 2 6/10/96 Cargo Door Sticks 3 6/10/96 Fog Light Adjusters Both Broken 4 6/10/96 Steering Wheel Out of Align 5 6/25/96 Rear Cargo Cover Distorted/Torn 6 6/25/96 Rear Wiper Doesn't work intermittently 7 6/25/96 Steering Column Bezel Doesn't fit properly 8 7/16/96 Rear Quarter Glass Rear Trim Does not fit 9 7/16/96 Steering Column Bezel keeps coming loose 10 7/16/96 Rattle in rear cargo door 11 7/16/96 Steering Wheel Out of Align 12 7/16/96 Water leak in top of driver's door 13 7/16/96 Water leak in top of passenger's door 14 8/1/96 Left rear panel cargo bay loose 15 8/1/96 Power steering reservoir hose leaking 16 10/29/96 Transmission fluid leak 17 10/29/96 Middle seat's vent (1 out of 3) defective 18 10/29/96 Compact Disk cover falls off 19 10/29/96 Left interior panel rattles 20 10/29/96 Steering Wheel Out of Align 21 11/14/96 Intake manifold leaking coolant 22 11/14/96 Power Steering leaks 23 11/14/96 Transmission fluid leak 24 12/10/96 Oil leak 25 12/10/96 Transmission fluid leak 26 12/10/96 Water Pump Noise 27 12/10/96 Steering Wheel Out of Align 28 1/6/97 Water Pump Noise 29 2/20/97 Oil leak on oil sump 30 2/20/97 Water Pump Noise 31 2/20/97 Front speaker bad 32 2/20/97 Rear Wiper Doesn't work intermittently 33 2/20/97 Compact Disk cover broke after it was reshaped by dealer 34 3/24/97 CV Joint/Ball blown seal 35 3/24/97 Oil leak on oil sump 36 3/24/97 Steering cylinder (junction) leaking? 37 3/24/97 Transmission fluid leak on transmission sump 38 3/24/97 Water pump to be replaced 39 3/24/97 High pitched whine upon acceleration from rear 40 3/24/97 Middle seat's vent (2 out of 3) defective 41 Total Problems Seen 41 Total Months Owned 10.00 Average Problems per Month 4.1 Problems by Severity (1 =3D Serious) 15 Problems by Severity (2 =3D Annoying) 14 Problems by Severity (3 =3D Minor) 12 Brent Flanders, BS Pharm. 913-491-9825 Pharmaceutical Consultants, Inc. 888-491-9825 toll free 5033 West 117th 913-491-9829 fax Leawood, KS 66211 888-491-9829 toll free = fax brent@pharmconsult.com Fun College Basketball Trivia http://206.229.213.117/hhindex.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:41:08 -0500 From: Brian Cramer <defender@mail.uscom.com> Subject: 1970 SIIa SWB For Sale 1970 Series IIa, SWB, hardtop with tropical roof and sliding rear side windows. Solid rust free chassis. Overdrive. Runs excellent. Very road worthy. Photos and more details available upon request. Located in southern New Jersey. I may be able to arrange delivery within a reasonable distance. $3295.00 OBO. Cheers, Brian Cramer (888)434-4678 office (609)665-4451 office fax (609)273-9708 home '94 D90 (#1251) '90 RR County '70 IIa Lightweight '89 Range Rover (For Sale: $10,995 OBO) '70 IIa SWB (For Sale: $3,295 OBO) ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:57:42 -0600 From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net> Subject: Searching for email address in the UK HI All, I am searching for the email address of Steve Parker Land Rovers. The email address on his ads & on his business cards does not recieve email. I hope someone in the UK can help me with the correct address. Thanks -- Rob Davis_Chicago ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:17:31 -0500 From: Jeff Goldman <roverboy@gis.net> Subject: Re: Gear Shift Knob Removal At 03:42 PM 11/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >Could someone please tell me how to remove the gear shift knob for both >the four wheel selector and the automatic transmission on an 89 Rover. What type of '89 Rover? If it's a Range Rover the transfer gear lever rotates counter clockwise and spins off. The auto selector is removed by popping/prying off the top cap of the shifter selector, removing the circlip and detent selector, and unscrewing the retaining nut holding the shifter body to the shaft. Sounds weird, but is all readily apparent at each step. Jeff G. Boston, MA 1971 88" Series IIA Land Rover - needing frame 1990 Range Rover County - hybrid fodder (ask about parts) 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD - the anomaly, albeit a competently quick 4x4 1991 Range Rover Hunter - basically OME-ified ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:01:49 +0200 (EET) From: "R. Wade Hughes" <hughes@trshp.trs.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Umfolowzi Game Preserve Just watched last night with my son a documentary on TV, (series is translated "The Animals of my Life"); this episode was about a certain David Cooper who is a vet for the Natal Parks Service. They were transferring rhinos by chopper, etc. in Kwazulu-Natal...beautiful territory...I started to dream of safari-ing in Southern Africa. One sad point though... In the show they using Isuzu & Nissan pick-ups!!! Not a single Landy to be seen! 8:( R. Wade Hughes Integration Engineer, Mgmt Systems Information Networking Systems Nokia Telecommunications Valimotie 1, 2nd Floor 82 Pontiac GP 267 V8 T-Roof (in Canada) 00380 Helsinki, Finland 70 Land Rover SIIA Petrol Hardtop "Zenith" Tel. (358-9)-511-63322 73 Citroen 2CV(6-engine, Red) "Zéphyr" Fax: (358-9)-511-63310 Net: hughes@trshp.ntc.nokia.com (Unix) or: wade.hughes@ntc.nokia.com (MS Mail) ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@norsk-data.co.uk> Subject: RE: Screensavers and binary images Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:40:07 -0000 Adrian, If you could send the images and desktop to me directly that would probably stop the formatting errors and allow me to enjoy them, rather than a text representation of them. Could you find the time to have another go but send it to anpi@norsk-data.co.uk instead please? I'll understand if you don't because its probably a large amount of files and thus a long time on line to send it! Thanks, Andy. > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Redmond [SMTP:channel6@post2.tele.dk] > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 1997 10:45 PM > To: lro@playground.sun.com > Subject: Screensavers and binary images [ truncated by list-digester (was 31 lines)] > end: vcard > --------------80D28F8DF2A4E77723AD5907-- ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:03:43 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: Re: Screensavers and binary images Andy Phillips wrote: > Adrian, > If you could send the images and desktop to me directly that would > probably stop the formatting errors and allow me to enjoy them, rather > than a text representation of them. Could you find the time to have > another go but send it to anpi@norsk-data.co.uk instead please? I'll > understand if you don't because its probably a large amount of files and > thus a long time on line to send it! [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)] > > end: vcard > > --------------80D28F8DF2A4E77723AD5907-- Hi Guys, I will make storage space available on my server for anyone who wants to post images, screensavers, win95 themes, sound files, etc for the L-R list. The web address is http://Adventures.co.za/landy/doodads (no html page needed, this will give you a text list of the contents along with size of the files and a link to download them - just open the link then use "save as"). If everyone would just post their submissions to me at "paul@adventures.co.za" with "doodads" in the subject field, I'll have the "art" up as soon as possible. Hope this helps. Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin, your online African adventure specialists http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com into Africa adventures, your African adventure webzine http://Adventures.co.za ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971128 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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