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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:33:09 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: LROi Nov & Dec

Strange thing here,  I waited and waited for the Nov LROi and it finally
shows up friday,  then I Dec shows up yesterday.  I have never gotten a
copy delivered so late or so early ( Net 0 )

I was kinda miffed when I was looking at Nov,  I may be out of line
here,  But it kinda looked like a big ad for "Safari Gard".  I
understand ARB gets a lot of press too,  but they do make functional
equipment, at a reasonable price.  Safari Gard, to me, just makes "bolt
on technology" i.e. armor plating, so BIG DEAL.  WHY ALL THE PRESS?  And
why does their trendy looking crap cost so damn much?  I might be
interested if they would incorporate some sort of function,  like
curb/stump feelers sticking out from their "Sliders" ( OH YEAH,  THATS
IT ).  As for me and my money,  I think I'll just spend mine on 90wt and
7.62 shells for my AK-47.

Happy Thanksgiving and God Bless our families

-- 
end
Mike Johnson
johnsonm@borg.com
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: "T. F. Mills" <tomills@odin.cair.du.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 05:48:33 +0000
Subject: (Fwd) LandRover importers
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> From:          Jeff Schneller <Jeff.Schneller@digital.com>
> Subject:       LandRover

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> Jeff.Schneller@digital.com	http://schneller.pko.dec.com
> Information Technology Development Program Class of 1998

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From: "T. F. Mills" <tomills@odin.cair.du.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 05:48:33 +0000
Subject: (Fwd) screen saver
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> From:          HEGLOBAL@aol.com
> Subject:       screen saver

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
> the Land Rover site. If you have any info I would greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:52:10 -0500
From: William S Kowalski <70252.1204@compuserve.com>
Subject: Electronic Ignition (Reply)

Hi: Regarding the Pertronix, I have one in both my Land-Rover and
Austin-Healey and have been very pleased. The module replaces the
distributor point assembly with minimum work and is is completely sealed
against water, oil etc. Activation is by means of a lobed magnetic rotor. 
Besides the ground connection created by the installation within the
distributor, there are only two wires going to the coil. As long as you
aren't color blind the red and black leads properly connect to the coil. 
Vehicle must be negative ground configuration. Since the spark output may
be higher, I found it advantages to also install new plug/distributor leads
and check/adjust the timing with a strobe light as well. 

Good luck and Rover on,
Bill Kowalski
Chicago, Illinois USA

'67 Land-Rover 109" IIA
'63 Austin-Healey BJ-7
'53 RR Bentley "R" (Uses some way out dual point arrangement, or I would
also install a Pertronix)

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:57:14 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: LR desktop images
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Someone was looking for screensavers and the like - here's a windows
background that's been circulating in this neck of the woods for a while
- I think it comes from the danish club site?

it's in .bmp and .jpg formats
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: Water Injection / Steam Cleaning
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:05:00 -0500

One of the theories behind water injection is that, apart from the
cooling effect of latent heat, the water droplet's rapid evaporation in
to steam causes a more thorough mixing of the fuel/air and thus improved
combustion. An extension of this theory is to introduce the water with
the fuel by combining petrol, alcohol and water at the tank. Part of the
problem with alcoholized fuels is that depending on the variety of
alcohol and water content the mixture can separate into petrol and
alcohol/ water instead of remaining intimately mixed. I had an eccentric
acquaintance once, who claimed to run his vehicle with 30% water in the
tank by adding alcohol to get it dissolved in the petrol.

What size jet should you use in your Rochester for this mixture?

Will it run better when gas line antifreeze is used to carry away
winter's condensation?

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From: "Chris Weinbeck, Office Logic, Inc." <cmw@tiac.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:32:16 -0500

Hello everyone!

Lawrence wrote:

>Recently, I read a thread about "steam cleaning" the engine by adding "a
>trickle of water" and its attendant dangers.
>How much is "a trickle?" Do you spray it into the carburettor throat with a
>spritzer type spray

That is exactly what one would do.

You can use any misting sprayer you have handy.  I use a manual spray 
bottle made for household cleaning products.  An old window cleaner bottle
would be perfect.

Just remove your air cleaner/hose at the carb. and vigorously spray mist into
the throat while reving' around 2500-3000 rpm.  If you've got pinging due to 
carbon you'll hear the difference quickly.  A minute or two total is all I do.

>I have seen water injection pumps advertised in some hot-rod magazines that
>get circulated around in the office. I believe they are used to give the
>motor more boost ( a good idea to have when attempting to overtake traffic
>in a series Rover;-))

Cools the intake charge among other things, quite useful in some applications 
and useless in others.

The last time I was impressed with myself for overtaking another vehicle it 
was a Ford pickup truck that I passed on the freeway.  My clutch then 
/immediately/ died.  I got towed away by a Ford that, with a 20ft ramp and 150
gallons of diesel and my 109 on board, accelerated onto and away down the 
highway faster than my truck -ever- will.

Chris

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.       V (508) 392-0288
  ______                              7 Littleton Road         F (508) 692-0897
  |__][_[_\__                     Westford, MA 01886     Computerization for
  |___\_|_]__]                                                           the healthcare
    (o)       (o)   '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional

               Ask me about East Coast Rover Co.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:20:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: LR desktop images

The next time someone wants some art for their desktop send it to
THEM...NOT ME!
Attachments play hell with my cheapo mail system....
thanks for your kind support.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:22:38 -0500
From: Tom Coron <tcoron@nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: Stop/Tail Lamps, etc for a 66 Export RHD

Hi All:

Anyone know for sure what the stop/tail,parking and
turn signal lights should be on a 66 IIA SWB Export 
Right Hand Drive? The truck was originally bought on the
island of St Thomas. It has European style headlamps, flush
on the breakfast without the protruding chrome rings.
The PO put on some really crappy looking NAPA style trailer
lamps.

Are the turn signals amber or clear on the front? Amber or
red on the rear? Turn signals on the top or bottom on the 
stern?

Thanks,

Tom Coron
King George, Va
66 IIA SWB RHD ( Slime Green )

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:28:46 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Stop/Tail Lamps, etc for a 66 Export RHD

Tom Coron wrote:
> The PO put on some really crappy looking NAPA style trailer
> lamps.

What you're saying is that it looks like the ass end of a Jeep.

-- 
end
Mike Johnson
johnsonm@borg.com
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:32:49 -0500
From: Tom Coron <tcoron@nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: license plate swap

Greetings LRO's:

I'm interested in obtaining a LandRoverish < (that may not
be a real word) license plate or 2. I have a colorful Virginia
plate, plus a few drab ones from other states available to trade.
I'd prefer something from  Land Rover territory, like the UK,
Africa, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Any interest??

Tom Coron
King George, Va
66 IIA SWB RHD ( Slime Green )

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:40:56 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: LR desktop images
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sorry - I thought others might be interested in this, so rather than
seeing a week's thread called 'put me on your list for one of those' -
which ties up my server too - I sent it.

Next time I'll just skip that thread....
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:57:51 -0500
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Lucas 6J

Paul Quin asks what is a Lucas 6J
 It is a junction box, used on  ser 2's to connect the front part of the
wiring loom, ie all the  front lights, into the system. not essential in a
rewire unless you wish to remove the front end at any time.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile )
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: rmodica@east.pima.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:54:56 MST
Subject: SII hockey puck

Paul,

If you're interested in disposing of that old relay I would be interested.  If 
it is in good shape it will fit both my SI 80" and my SII 109".  Please let me 
know at <rmodica@east.pima.edu>.

Rob

Rob Modica, Tucson AZ        '51 SI 80" hardtop       #16136629 "La Rana"
Arizona Land Rover Owners    '60 SII 109" SW Safari   #16400620 "The Tortuga"
rmodica@east.pima.edu        '94 Disco 5spd 

Home of the University of Arizona Wildcats - 1997 NCAA Basketball Champions

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Lucas 6J
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:07:10 -0800

Thanks to all who replied regarding my mystery hockey puck.

I may or may not use it again depending on how I decide to rewire the
beast...

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	William L. Leacock [SMTP:wleacock@pipeline.com]
>Sent:	Wednesday, November 26, 1997 1:58 PM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Lucas 6J

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>Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile )
> 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:29:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  Electronic Ignition

The pertronix is relatively impervious to water, but water under the cap is
still no good for ignition. Of all the units I've sold and used, I've seen
only one failure; mine! Three of the four magnets and the inner part of the
ring containing them had slipped down the distrib shaft and weren't turning.
Pansy was running on one cylinder, and even idling. When the replacement gets
here, I'm going to glue the mag ring halves together.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:38:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: for sale

FOR SALE:  1 set of solid sides for swb
           fair condition, 1 side has a small ding
           make me an O.K. offer and they are yours.....

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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From: robot1@juno.com
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:20:08 -0600
Subject: Jumpstarting

>Why is it recommended to put one clamp on the body; why not directly on
the
>-ive battery post? The Red clamps go right on the +ive posts, so why
don't
>people put the black clamps right on the battery?

When you remove the cables from a battery they almost invariably spark; a
battery being charged emits almost pure oxygen and almost pure hydrogen.
It's a bomb. They blow up. really, really badly. Spraying bits of
plastic, lead, and sulphuric acid everywhere. ALWAYS connect the charging
lead to the battery first, THEN connect the earth lead. To a part of the
engine block, preferably. when the vehicle starts, remove the earth lead
first, the spark will occur where it's much safer for sparks to occur,
away from the battery.  Been there, done that, seen it, it's not a pretty
thing. Really good way to lose an eye or worse.

Mark

OBTW, does anyone know of a list similar to this one regarding HAM radio?
I'm dying to get my tech license and want to learn as much as possible.
Email me off the list at ROBOT1@juno.com

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:26:22 +0800 (SGT)
From: torque@pacific.net.sg (Lawrence Lee)
Subject: Re:  Electronic Ignition

Hi All
With the positive comments I am getting on the Pertronix, I think I shall
venture to install a set into my 2.6l.

Just from curiosity, How permanent is the conversion? Can I pop back the
contacts and drive away if the unit should cease to function?

Thanks for the responses.

Cheers

Lawrence Lee, Art Director
Torque Class Magazine,
The Only Motor Magazine You Have to be Seen In
MPH Trade Publications (S) Pte Ltd,
12 Tagore Drive, Singapore 787621
Tel: 453 8200  DID: 450 6005  Fax: 453 8600

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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: new Rangie
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 19:44:57 +1100

SPYDERS wrote:

V12 Range Rover?The facelift version of the new Range Rover is under 
way. It's code-named P38B.
<snip>
Expect to see the P38B in early 1998 (I'm
wondering what kind of idea it would take to thrill a LR engineer?)

To which I respond:

Hey, it's really twin V-12 engined and called the Lightning and will be
built, not in Solihull, but in a special new US factory called the
Skunkworks.  I believe it will really fly!  (only aviation buffs need read
this)

Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia

'86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual

check my home page at 
http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover

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From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@norsk-data.co.uk>
Subject: RE: LR desktop images
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:54:07 -0000

Yeah my expensive email barfed at it too! (Don't know why;-)) And while
we're on the subject of LR pictures - where's *my* copy of the series
vehicle with the lady wearing boots please? Judging by the replies
everyone except me got a copy. Totally unfair! How else am I to persuade
others in my place of employment that Land Rovers are fun and
interesting. Without that picture no-one will even look at a Land Rover
. . .

Andy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Russ Wilson [SMTP:rwilson@usaor.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 26, 1997 8:21 PM
> To:	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject:	Re: LR desktop images

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> Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
> Pittsburgh, Pa.

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From: "P Burgers" <PBURGERS@CPLS.WCAPE.GOV.ZA>
Date:          Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:36:04 +0200
Subject:       RE: LR desktop images

> we're on the subject of LR pictures - where's *my* copy of the series
> vehicle with the lady wearing boots please? Judging by the replies
> everyone except me got a copy. Totally unfair! How else am I to persuade

Me Too! 

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From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@norsk-data.co.uk>
Subject: RE: LR desktop images
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:21:53 -0000

Is it just me or did anyone else receive a reply with nothing in it?

Andy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	P Burgers [SMTP:PBURGERS@CPLS.WCAPE.GOV.ZA]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 27, 1997 9:36 AM
> To:	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject:	RE: LR desktop images

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> > everyone except me got a copy. Totally unfair! How else am I to
> persuade

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From: "Charles Morris" <scimg@quiknet.com>
Subject: Lookinf for Northern California LRO Group.
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 02:36:16 -0700

Got a new 97' D90 and am looking for a Northern California LRO Group for
activities and wheeling. I'm near Sacramento.

THX,
Charles

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:32:59 +0000
Subject: Re: LR desktop images

I was interested, but Noteless Lotes didn't accept the MIME as an
attachment (at least Elm was simple and didn't try to be clever).  Is there
an URL?

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

channel6@post2.tele.dk on 11/26/97 09:40:56 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  Re: LR desktop images

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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sorry - I thought others might be interested in this, so rather than
seeing a week's thread called 'put me on your list for one of those' -
which ties up my server too - I sent it.
Next time I'll just skip that thread....
--
Adrian Redmond
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Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
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telephone (home)             +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data              +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)             +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)           +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT                   +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                   channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail)     channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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