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1 john cranfield [john.cra19Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?
2 SPYDERS@aol.com 22Re: Spot Welding Aluminum, or Al as it turns out...
3 matt [nelsml73@snyoneva.24jerrican explanation from northern hyd.
4 Russ Wilson [rwilson@usa29Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?
5 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl_Th21build up
6 "Con P. Seitl" [seitl@ns25Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?
7 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl_Th21build up
8 matt [nelsml73@snyoneva.12Re: hello, World!!!
9 tc971613@student.paisley8OVERLANDER
10 matt [nelsml73@snyoneva.11remote breathers
11 matt [nelsml73@snyoneva.19alternate carbs
12 Jan Ben [ben@lucent.com>39Re: Buick 215''
13 n4ptk@InfoAve.Net 28Wranglers and non-LR 4x4s
14 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo14Re: Spot Welding Aluminum, or Al as it turns out...
15 Karl Kurz [kkurz@acad.um24Swivel Ball Gaiters
16 rovah@agate.net 22GPS Year 2000
17 DEFENDER@ibm.net 34Re: GPS Year 2000
18 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@nr15Re: LRO November issue
19 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@nr16Re: Was Poor running 2.6l
20 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml25RE: Yep, a broken half shaft
21 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@ri16Lost Email, New address
22 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M11Re: LRO November issue
23 john cranfield [john.cra21Re: Buick 215''
24 "Michael Fredette" [mfre29[not specified]
25 NADdMD@aol.com 16Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?
26 "FHYap" [FHYap@ix.netcom13Re: LRO November issue
27 "Christopher H. Dow" [do28Re: LRO November issue
28 Michael Carradine [cs@la24Re: LRO November issue
29 "Vel N." [vel@mcs.net> 33Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's
30 David Cockey [dcockey@ti47Re: Buick 215''
31 SPYDERS@aol.com 30Re: Component life/silicone brake fluid
32 David Cockey [dcockey@ti13Re: LRO November issue
33 "Christopher A. Glaves" 17GPS III Info
34 David Scheidt [david@mat34Re: Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's
35 Faye and Peter Ogilvie [25Re: Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's
36 BarrieWyLR@aol.com 13Re: 4-sale 1964 109 Ser IIA 109 PU
37 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@ri33(Dreamin' 'bout) Year 2000
38 Clare & Lee Dunkelberg [27On our own
39 CIrvin1258@aol.com 22Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?


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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:44:39 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?

Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:
> highway - a most unpleasant thing.
> Once I got home and got the cylinder head off, it turned out that the valve
> had adhered to the guide in one spot, damaging the surfaces of both.
> Considering this head has all of 100-120 miles on it, I am seriously
> thinking that the machine shop mis-reamed or didn't ream the guides,

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> Looks to me like a not-so-simple case of machinist screwup.
>                     Help! -Alan
Sounds like the machine shop didn't remove all of the grinding compound
after lapping the valves in. This can do very nasty things to moving
parts because it is after all GRINDING compound.
     John and Muddy

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:06:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Spot Welding Aluminum, or Al as it turns out...

In a message dated 11/21/97 5:17:05 AM, you wrote:

>The increased current requirements are the reason small hand-held spot
>welders are only rated for welding steel. I'd like to try spot welding
>Al with someone else's though.
>Regards,
>David Cockey

David, How did you persuade Al to let you spot weld him? Keep us posted if
you find a welder you can use to weld Al; by the way, what were you going to
weld him to? Can we watch?

Al, tell us all how the increased current you require feels...  ;-)

pat
93  110

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:09:36 -0800
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: jerrican explanation from northern hyd.

sounds like this guy might know what is going on...

"

I believe that these have been discontinue through mail order, because
UPS/Fed Ex will not take them since they are surplus items that have had
gas in them already.  I will have to check and get back to you with a
price if they are still available.

Hal, Your Internet Host
Northern/Herters/RV Direct
www.northern-online.com
www.herters.com
e-mail=   hal@northern-online.com

>>> matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> 11/17/97 10:04AM >>>
what is the price and order of your swiss 5 gallon jerricans?

thanks

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:15:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?

>Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:
>> Mr. Churchill stuck the exhaust valve on his #2 cylinder lat night on the
>> highway - a most unpleasant thing.
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 19 lines)]
>> and mating surfaces for signs of it.
>> Looks to me like a not-so-simple case of machinist screwup.
>>                     Help! -Alan
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>parts because it is after all GRINDING compound.
>     John and Muddy
It always scares me to hear machine shop horror stories.  They take your
precious parts and go behind the curtain only to ACUTALLY do God only knows
what..  Did they really the job 100% right??  How do you know if they cut
any corners unless your engine blows up? All of the locals around here get
a bit confused if you bring in anything other than the standard U.S. hot
rod engine.
If I were to have to do the big ugly engine rebuild I think at this point
I'd be taking a long serious look at the Turner....

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Pittsburgh, Pa.

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Date: 21 Nov 97 13:19:33 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl_Theunis?= <joel_theunis@itt-promedia.be>
Subject: build up

Hello,
I'm going to buy a SIII 88 (ex Belgian MoD).  They are availlable (here i=
n Belgium) for about $720 (=A3420).  Realy cheap ! But they are al 2WD.
I've already done the conversion to 4WD once, and I know where to find th=
e parts to do it, so no problem there. 
What I would like know of you guys (and girls?) is: Should I consider doi=
ng an engine swap to an V8 and axle swap ?
I'm going to use my LR for off-roading (only!), the Rover 3.5L V8 (I have=
 in mind) will come from an old Rover-car, but I don't recall the exact m=
odel, the axles would come from SIII 109.  Are there some things I sould =
keep in mind ? Do I need a conversion kit (or something) to fit the V8 to=
 the stock LR gear-box ?
Thanks, Joel
BTW if would like to reply directly to me please mail to 'joel@village.uu=
net.be' since the mail address I'm currently using will be obsolete by th=
e end of the month !

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:20:55 -0800
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?

Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:
> Mr. Churchill stuck the exhaust valve on his #2 cylinder lat night on the
> highway - a most unpleasant thing.
> Once I got home and got the cylinder head off, it turned out that the valve
> had adhered to the guide in one spot, damaging the surfaces of both.
> Considering this head has all of 100-120 miles on it, I am seriously
> thinking that the machine shop mis-reamed or didn't ream the guides,

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)]
> Looks to me like a not-so-simple case of machinist screwup.
>                     Help! -Alan

Alan;  Could be the guide has a flaw in it if it was installed new, or 
the valve was a bit bent if installed new. if both were used ones out of 
your head then I would say the valves got out of order and they weren't 
matched to the proper cylinder. Take the offending valve and guide out 
and replace with new ones! FWIW

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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Date: 21 Nov 97 13:29:31 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl_Theunis?= <joel_theunis@itt-promedia.be>
Subject: build up

Hello,
I'm going to buy a SIII 88 (ex Belgian MoD).  They are availlable (here i=
n Belgium) for about $720 (=A3420).  Realy cheap ! But they al are 2WD.
I've already done the conversion to 4WD once, and I know where to find th=
e parts to do it, so no problem there. 
What I would like know of you guys (and girls?) is: Should I consider doi=
ng an engine swap to an V8 and axle swap ?
I'm going to use my LR for off-roading (only!), the Rover 3.5L V8 (I have=
 in mind) will come from an old Rover P6 !, the axles would come from SII=
I 109.  Are there some things I sould keep in mind ? Do I need a conversi=
on kit (or something) to fit the V8 to the stock LR gear-box ? Does any-o=
ne have experience with this specific engine ?
Thanks, Joel
BTW if would like to reply directly to me please mail to 'joel@village.uu=
net.be' since the mail address I'm currently using will be obsolete by th=
e end of the month !

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:26:39 -0800
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: hello, World!!!

Ive used chains many times in terrible conditions, its amazing where you
can go with them on, you never seem to loose traction! 

I'd never be caught without a pair any time in the year, especially
because I don't have a winch...

matt

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:24:19 -0800
From: tc971613@student.paisley.ac.uk (Timothy Coles)
Subject: OVERLANDER

Overlander magazine became Off Road and 4Wheel Drive which spawned Land
Rover World.  There publishers don't have website but e-mail me back and
I'll get you a snail-mail address.

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:32:55 -0800
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: remote breathers

brake line flex hoses thread well into the breather hole, then you can
adapt whatever tubing you want onto the end of the old flex line, this
seems to work well and is cheap especially if you have a few extra lines
about.

matt

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:50:29 -0800
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: alternate carbs

someone wanted a source for rochester carbs, I just found this ad in the
novemer hemmings motor news...

"Carbeurator blow out:
New 1950-66 GM , Ford, Independants. large select stock, 1 or 2 barrels,
$65 ea:add $9.50 shipping. Mike Hershenfeld,3011 Susan Rd, Bellmore NY
11710, ph/fax: 516-781-part
mikesmopar@juno.com "

I've never dealt with them but they might be worth looking into...

Also consider other one barrels, I've seen a holley on one rover and
I've got a carter on one of mine and it works great(carter YF I believe)
matt

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:06:25 -0500
From: Jan Ben <ben@lucent.com>
Subject: Re: Buick 215''

CIrvin wrote:
;;;;;;;;;;

Allan,

The 215 uses a slightly different crankshaft - just different enough so
that
the block uses a different rea.....
<clip>
The major concern, however, is the lifespan of the engine: GM used a
different - and knowingly inferior - casting process that limited it's
lifespan to about 60,000 miles (images of the Vega?), though several
have
passed that mark without expressing their displeasure with life. This,
is due
to the standard at GM at the time (1950's-1960's) being cast-iron...
;;;;;;;;;;;

Charles,

you're way off, I hope you get your Rover book back soon :)

As far as quality of the blocks, I have a '63 Olds on the bench being
assembled, and also a Rover and a BL 4.4 blocks.  In fact, GM used a
*superior* die-casting method, vs. Rover's investment casting.
The rover block is rougher than the GM block.
BL block looks like it was cast in kitty litter alltogether.
Any longevity problems are due to whimpy maincaps and oiling system
design, which Rover inherited 30 yrs ago and never bothered to change.
So  the rear cam lobes wear out in 60-70k miles.
The new Rover blocks are cross-bolted and have bigger mains and rod
jrnls (but still have puny valves and crappy crowded ports).
rgds
Jan

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From: n4ptk@InfoAve.Net
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:03:35 -0600
Subject: Wranglers and non-LR 4x4s

David wrote, in part:
>....I think we are too hard on....our fellow 4-wheel drive enthusiasts
>....I had a Wrangler....never broke or dripped....performed amazingly
>well....introduced me to joys of off-road....this is important
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>it is the Jeep clubs especially that keep the trails
>around here open for the few Land Rover owners to enjoy.
>well....introduced me to joys of off-road....this is important
Hi David,

	No flames from me.  I congratulate you.  If we don't stick
together as a fraternity, we will find no where to go off-roading
sometime in the futur

	I own a TJ (97).  It's quite a vehicle.  Does with a 4 cylinder
5 speed what many other do with big V8's etc.  I also have a restored
1964 CJ-3B and a 1948 CJ-3A.  Love them all.

	I wave at Samuri's, Nissen Patrols, Jeeps, Land Rovers,
Land Cruisers, you name it.  

Larry

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:11:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Spot Welding Aluminum, or Al as it turns out...

Re: Increased current:

Nice, actually.....8*)

Spotwelding is a nice wayy to stay together....but a bit rough on the
upholstery.....8*)

               aj"ZAP!"r

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:25:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Karl Kurz <kkurz@acad.umm.maine.edu>
Subject: Swivel Ball Gaiters

During the course of rebuilding the front axle off my military 88,
I dreaded removing the leather gaiters that were full of holes and looked
dreadful.... I was fully prepared to replace or refinish the balls
remembering all the times the unit had been submerged in salt water
launching various watercraft.  However, the balls turned out to be 
in the best condition of any I have seen on a used LR, they were nearly
perfect !  Needless to say new gaiters will be refitted, probably cut out
from a suitable piece of horsehide I've been hoarding for many years.

Karl K. Kurz, N1JZY
POB 352, Machiasport
Maine, 04654
207-255-4036

Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French, and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the chefs are British, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics
French, the police German, and it is all organized by the Italians.

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From: rovah@agate.net
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:35:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: GPS Year 2000

It has been said the the Garmin GPS units will have no difficulty with the
year 2000 issue.  Not sure why this is, but it has been discussed at some
length on the sci.geo.satellite newsgroup.  FWIW Apple computers also don't
have this problem..

Regards, John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.agate.net/~rovah/>
X0 of the V(irtual)MFA 323th Cougars/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover-"Smedley," 1966 Series IIA 88",
1972 Series III 88"-"SWAMBO"

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:42:26 -0500
Subject: Re: GPS Year 2000

rovah@agate.net wrote:

> It has been said the the Garmin GPS units will have no difficulty with
> the
> year 2000 issue.

Is the y2k issue with the units or with the sat software?

>  Not sure why this is, but it has been discussed at some
> length on the sci.geo.satellite newsgroup.  FWIW Apple computers also
> don't
> have this problem..

Most computers are not going to have this problem as most major
companies have been dealing with it for the past few years.  However, a
computer made 10 years ago may have a problem.  I would venture to say,
however, that you are safe is your computer, regardless of brand, is
less than 5 years old.

> Regards, John
> John Cassidy
> Bangor, Maine USA
> The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.agate.net/~rovah/>
> X0 of the V(irtual)MFA 323th Cougars/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)]
> 88",
> 1972 Series III 88"-"SWAMBO"

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:15:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: LRO November issue

On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Con P. Seitl wrote:

> > Communist Post.  Who else would have a corporate logo that looks like an
> > envelope flying through a shredder...
> Veerre interestink comrade, yourr beeink vatched !

	Nope, that's what the Union boss claimed yesterday.  Has special
curtains now in the union offices to keep our security service from spying
on him!  Hmmm... Maybe I should drive down Bank Street in the 109 and take
pictures of his office window... :-) 

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:21:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Was Poor running 2.6l

On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Lawrence Lee wrote:

> By the way, Alan, does your motor have this thing called the AIR PUMP? I
> see it listed in the operation manual for my rover. ('81 SIII 109) It looks
> like a supercharger to me, but the air seem to be blown into the exhaust
> manifold through this system of air rails - 

	Haven't seen this on a LR, but my Mini had this set-up.  An
attempt at meeting emissions controls.  Stole more power from the engine
that doing any good.  Yank it and close the holes off.  (and keep in a box
incase they pollution police ever want it back on...)

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Yep, a broken half shaft
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:25:18 -0800

Hi Chris,

I have spent hours banging an prying on half shaft stubbies to no avail.

We ended up pulling out the diff and taking it to a machine shop.  It
took the guy ten minutes to weld on a pull tab and yank out the
offending bit.  Cost 10 bucks...well worth it!

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	chrisste@clark.net [SMTP:chrisste@clark.net]
>Sent:	Thursday, November 20, 1997 5:46 PM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Yep, a broken half shaft

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
>Chris Stevens
>1969 Series IIa SW

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:31:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net>
Subject: Lost Email, New address

Well, I managed to trash my e-mail and lose everything in my inbox.  (1000+
messages)  So, if anyone wrote to me recently, please resend it.  Sorry!

Further, I am getting rid of my CRL account, so if you have my e-mail
address as <sinasohn@crl.com>, please change it to either
<sinasohn@ricochet.net> or <roger@sinasohn.com>.  Thanks!

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger@sinasohn.com                           that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:34:24 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: LRO November issue

>        Nope, that's what the Union boss claimed yesterday.  Has special
>curtains now in the union offices to keep our security service from spying
>on him!  Hmmm... Maybe I should drive down Bank Street in the 109 and take
>pictures of his office window... :-)
At least the NL got out.Got mine today.Not read it yet.....
Uncle Mike

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:36:36 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Buick 215''

Jan Ben wrote:
> CIrvin wrote:
> ;;;;;;;;;;
> Allan,
> The 215 uses a slightly different crankshaft - just different enough so
> that

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> rgds
> Jan
Jan  What Charles was refering to was the method of casting the steel 
sleeves in place that GM used whereas Rover machined the block and
fitted them later. The GM method resulted in an unacceptably high reject
rate in manufacture.The Rover method was more expensive to use but had a
much lower reject cost.
      John and Muddy

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Subject: Re: jerrican explanation from northern hyd.
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:10:26 -0800 (PST)
From: "Michael Fredette" <mfredett@ichips.intel.com>

> sounds like this guy might know what is going on...
> "
> I believe that these have been discontinue through mail order, because
> UPS/Fed Ex will not take them since they are surplus items that have had
> gas in them already.  I will have to check and get back to you with a
> price if they are still available.

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> what is the price and order of your swiss 5 gallon jerricans?
> thanks
Matt,

    That could be an explanation. Get this, I got my catalog flyer
  Weds nite, #584, and there they were, SWISS ARMY SURPLUS JERRY
  CANS for 14.99, so I called em right away. No dice. Then I called 
  customer service next day. The gal does a bit of checking, and
  says that her computer showed an initial inventory of only 30 cans
  and that they had sold out VERY quickly. She said they often do
  that with limited qty items, ie put them in the flyer rather than
  the regular catalog, just to move them out quickly. Bottom line is,
  I can't buy em. Oh well, maybe next time. Thanks for trying. Sure you
  don't want to sell me 3 of em ? :-)

Rgds
Mike

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:30:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?

In a message dated 97-11-21 12:19:37 EST, you write:

<< My question is - what else could cause this to happen?
  >>

I remember a few months (maybe a year) when someone discussed valve guides
which appeared to have enough clearance while cold but were sticky when hot.
 Maybe this is another example of this.

Nate

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From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: LRO November issue
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:01:17 -0800

> At least the NL got out.Got mine today.Not read it yet.....
> Uncle Mike

Has anyone on the West Coast received theirs as yet?  I am still waiting.

Frank.
 

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:17:09 -0800
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: LRO November issue

I called LROI this morning because this issue is coincident with the
lapse of my previous subscription.  I bought parts from BP on the day I
faxed the new subscription request to LROI, and the fraud department of
my credit card company called me.  So, I was curious to make sure that
LROI received authorization.  They said they had.

They told me that they figured out what happened yesterday.  What they
said was that the printer only printed 500 copies of the November issue
for the U.S., and never notified LROI of the shortfall.  The person I
talked to said the last 300 were sent today.  

I'm a bit disturbed as I think this conflicts with what's been mentioned
on this list.  Does anyone else think it's different, or is my memory
failing?

C

FHYap wrote:
> > At least the NL got out.Got mine today.Not read it yet.....
> > Uncle Mike

> Has anyone on the West Coast received theirs as yet?  I am still 
> waiting.

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:34:51 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Subject: Re: LRO November issue

At 02:17 PM 11/21/97 -0800, Christopher H. Dow wrote:
:They told me that they figured out what happened yesterday.  What they
:said was that the printer only printed 500 copies of the November issue
:for the U.S., and never notified LROI of the shortfall.  The person I
:talked to said the last 300 were sent today.  

 Does North America get a stripped down or sanitized
 version of LRO?

:FHYap wrote:
:> > At least the NL got out.Got mine today.Not read it yet.....
:> > Uncle Mike
:> Has anyone on the West Coast received theirs as yet?  I am still 
:> waiting.

 None here yet either, but the *December* issue of LRW
 has been here a few days.

-Michael

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From: "Vel N." <vel@mcs.net>
Subject: Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:20:39 -0600

OK, after starting Dot, my S2a after letting her sit for over a month of
unuse, I noticed that my headlights took a second to gradually grow
brighter until they got to their normal sickly yellow glow which changed
with the RPMs.

I drove around for a bit at night to stretch her legs a bit and after
stopping
for fuel, the headlights wouldn't come on.  I noticed that it was only the
low beams which didn't work.  High-beams came on fine.  Checked the
continuity of the elements in the low beams and they were burnt out...

I noticed a normal 12-ish volts coming out of the connectors when the low
beams
were on.  But I'm assuming this is an intermitten short (ugh).

Can someone describe to me the basic method of going about how to find
the problem?  (Sorry,  I could just play, but wanted to save some time and
money before I blow out the new set of headlights I just ordered.)

Thanks.  (Sorry to trouble you guys w/ what looks like a basic Electrical
Q.)

(And Dark Vader (ie: Lucas) has not plagued me in so long...I was trying
my luck I know...)

Vel
email: vel@mcs.net

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:21:12 -0500
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Buick 215''

> The major concern, however, is the lifespan of the engine: GM used a
> different - and knowingly inferior - casting process that limited it's
> lifespan to about 60,000 miles (images of the Vega?), though several have
> passed that mark without expressing their displeasure with life.

This is a new one to me. I have experience with a Buick 215 V8 with
around 200k miles. It did blow a cylinder head gasket several times, but
was otherwise still strong and not using oil. The Vega was a completely
different process and design without liners. The primary reason for
dropping the 215 was cost, it was going into "compact" cars which didn't
need a V8.

> The cylinder heads on the Buick have more bolts holding them down,
> though the
> heads WILL FIT a Rover block (the existing bolt pattern on the Rover,
> taking
> after the Buick, but simply deleting the extra bolts), and the oil
> pump
> assembly is similar, but different, and Rover parts won't fit here (so
> much
> for buying cheaper ones!)

There were two different aluminum 215 V8s produced by GM from '61
through '63, Buick and Olds. The Olds version had an additional head
bolt per cylinder due to the preferences of the Olds chief engineer
compared to the engine's chief engineer. I've heard the detailed story
several times but can only remember that it was as much about
personalities as technical issues.

Buick replace the 215 V8 with an iron V6 which was based on the V8. Then
the Buick 300, later 340 and 350 V8 was developed from the al 215. The
absence of liners meant the bore could be enlarged for the larger
displacement. I've heard the '64 300 V8 used the al heads, which were
then replace with new iron heads for '65.

The design and some tooling for the al 215 was sold to Rover in the
mid-60s. Dan Lagrou of Almont, Michigan has a barn full of 215 V8s. He
developed the conversion for putting a 215 in a Vega while working at
GM, and later sold kits.

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:29:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  Component life/silicone brake fluid

In a message dated 11/21/97 12:51:36 PM, someone (sandy?) wrote:

>>two.  Silicone is not hygroscopic, but does anyone know of it's
>>service life?  As far as I'm concerned, silicone's only drawback is
>>its price, $7-8 a pint.  (I know, I should buy it by the gallon.)

Then someone else:

>Another I've been told about is that since it doesnt absorb water, 
>and condensation occuring in the system will collect at its lowest 
>parts - the wheel cylinders instead of being absorbed into the fluid.

Then my .02:

So if it (the condensation) collects in the wheel cylinders, wouldn't
periodic bleeding at the lowest wheel cylinders get rid of the water in the
system? It would then look like silicone fluid (sounds like something Dow,
the chemical company, not Chris, implanted in chests) would be a good thing
because the water would be removed instead of being dissolved or held in
suspension in the brake fluid, right? I have no idea but was just guessing
about it...

pat
93  110 "now stopping again with new wheel cylinders"

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:26:37 -0500
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: LRO November issue

Michael Carradine wrote:

>  Does North America get a stripped down or sanitized
>  version of LRO?

I've had the same issue paurchased at a new agent in the UK, and set to
my home int the US, and as far as I can tell they are identical. Not
even a "Special USA Feature Inside" sticker on the cover.

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:52:10 -0500
From: "Christopher A. Glaves" <cglaves@erols.com>
Subject: GPS III Info

Info for those considering purchasing the garmin GPS III

http://www.cs.odu.edu/~glaves/chris/gpsiii/

Chris

Christopher A. Glaves

'97 Land Rover Defender 90 #263
'78 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
Come see it all at --> http://www.erols.com/cglaves/rover.html
ICQ: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/5274716

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:25:25 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu>
Subject: Re: Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's

On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Vel N. wrote:

<< Vel's description of blown low beams snipped>>

First, your description of headlight brightness varing with engine speed
sounds like a bad battery or generator/alternator/voltage regulator.  It
is quite possible this is a seperate problem.  Or maybe you have a drain
on the battery.  

Anyways  the circuit for the headlamps is on the fussed circuit that the
ignition isn't.  On  mine, the current seems go through the switch. (No
relay!).  I would examine all of that wire to see if there are any holes
in the insulation, and then check the switch.  Now might be a good time to
put a relay in the circuit.  

You mention having ordered headlights.  Do you mean the whole assembly, or
just bulbs?  If you mean bulbs, they are just 7" round three conector
bulbs, available at any auto parts place.  The sylvania numbers are 6014
for sealed beam and 6024 for halogen bulbs.  (I just bought a set today.
$20 bucks for two halogen bulbs.)  If you have the military style lights,
you should still be able to get the bulbs locally, just take the old one
with you.  

David

--------
David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu

yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG*  -- no terrier

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:25:34 -1000
From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Subject: Re: Dead Lights - Electrical Troubleshooting Q's

><< Vel's description of blown low beams snipped>>
>First, your description of headlight brightness varing with engine speed
>sounds like a bad battery or generator/alternator/voltage regulator.  It
>is quite possible this is a seperate problem.  Or maybe you have a drain
>on the battery. 
Aloha:
	It could also be a loose connection.  Mine had similar troubles with dim
lights at idle and turned out to be loose positive hot wire from battery.
Nut holding cable to battery seemed tight but lead post had actually melted
making poor contact.  Car would start and run but headlights would go up
and down.  Out of frustration, slapped a wrench on the clamp bolt and gave
it a turn or two and all has been well for more than two years.  
	Also had loss of low beams which was broken ground wire connector under
the hood latch.  Check the cheap and easy stuff before throwing away good
and expensive pieces.

Peter Ogilvie
1970 88 stn wgn
1965 pickup
1965 88 bucket of rust

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From: BarrieWyLR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:57:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 4-sale 1964 109 Ser IIA 109 PU

Hi David, Where  is the 109?  I will come & get it if it is not too far away,
or make arrangements if it is.  Kindly have your friend give me a call @
307-742-9145 immediately.  Or e-mail me directly with his phone #.  I am
quite serious about it.  Thank you.

Barrie
60 SII SWB "Rugbeater"

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:36:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@ricochet.net>
Subject: (Dreamin' 'bout) Year 2000

At 10:42 AM 11/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Most computers are not going to have this problem as most major
>companies have been dealing with it for the past few years.  However, a
>computer made 10 years ago may have a problem.  I would venture to say,
>however, that you are safe is your computer, regardless of brand, is
>less than 5 years old.
 
Bzzzz....Wrong!  An awful lot of companies are scrambling as we speak to do
something about it.  It's big business *now*.  Don't believe me?  Take a
look at your: bank statement, credit card statement, credit card, etc.  How
many have 2 digit years?  How many have corrected that behind the scenes?  

I'm working with Longs Drugs at the moment; they're still a couple of years
away from implementing y2k ready code.  (Meanwhile, does the patient born in
'97 need baby tylenol or geritol?)  Aetna Health plans wasn't ready a couple
of years ago when I was there.  HP is working on solutions, as is Cognos.  

PC software may or may not be y2K ready; a lot of pc vendors have been
figuring they'll have new versions (windows 99?) out before then, but that
doesn't help the users (and there are a lot of them!) who prefer to stick
with software they know (in terms of bugs, macros, database formats, etc.)

Meanwhile, I gotta get started prepping my 109" for 2000...  8^)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger@sinasohn.com                           that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:05:29 -0600
From: Clare & Lee Dunkelberg <clarelee@freewwweb.com>
Subject: On our own

My "94 highway department yellow D-90 softtop now is out of factory
warranty.
Sigh.
Of course, the day after I pick it up from the $500+ 30K checkup and
overall "check all the warranty stuff before it expires" service order,
the heater motor is blowing like a wimp (I mean that in strictly
windflow terms.  It stops almost completely at stop lights.  It then
picks up to almost the volume I remember as I move at freeway speeds.
Sound familiar to anyone?
The part I like the most in the summer is when you supposedly turn off
the heat to vent and drive with airflow.  
Great way to make pottery.
Anybody got a realliy cheap bench seat out there?
Thanks!
Cheers and Happy Holidays!
"God help us all!!" said a 47-year-old, debt-ridden, overworked Tiny
Tim.
-- 
Clare and Lee Dunkelberg
210 Glentower Dr.
San Antonio, Texas  78213-1913
(210) 344-3394

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:08:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Stuck valve quandry - what caused it?

Could also be fuel/timing...

Back in the days when I worked for a skywriting company in Long Beach, Ca., I
had this MGB-GT, that didn't exactly have a stock engine in it. When the
planes sat during bad weather, they sat for lengthy periods of time - so much
so, that we used to get the okay, to drain a little 100LL from their tanks,
and do whatever we liked with the stuff.

If mixed 50/50 with a half tank of gas, my MGB ran like crazy! BUT, if I
mixed a little too much Avgas, I'd burn the exhaust valves faster than you
could blink an eye!

One week, I really messed up on the fuel mixing, and I burnt 3, and "welded"
number 4.

Charles

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