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From: ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:23:54 +0000
Subject: Re: Water problem

> the hinge that supports the wind screen.

Geoffrey,

to be honest no.  Nobody has managed that :-) BUT, you can try.  

Is it a SII? or III?

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:25:03 -0500 (EST)
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

Hi John...

Yes my LR does have a heat riser valve, and nope it doesn't look like it is
working... The spring is shot and the valve just flops around. I didn't
realise that they had a heat riser valve but reading your email I remember
seeing it at one time. I think that you are bang one with this one, as my LR
doesn't have any PCV valve this wouldn't be it...

Thanks

Keith
1961 Series II 88"

> Keith does your 61 have a heat riser valve on the exhaust manifold?
>This is a little Lever with a spring coil that sticks out below where
>the intake and exhaust manifold join. If so it may well be stuck. the
>perpose of this valeve is to allow heat from the exhaust to warm the
>intake . Later vehicles didn't use this method they had a "hot spot"
>that didn't need a valve.
>Another cause of carb icing is exessive blow by resulting in oil fumes
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)]
>was happening. His Rover now has new rings!
>    John and Muddy

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:42:29 -0500 (EST)
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

Hi Dave...

>Is your choke working properly?

Speaking of the choke, it is acting strange since I swapped the motor. I can
put the choke on a bit but if I go too far it stalls out the engine, sounds
like it is flooding... I haven't even began to look at that problem yet. I
just think that I have to dump this Solex and slap something else on. I have
a Rochester carb that fits the intake and linkage but doesn't seem to work
very well and so far I haven't been able to find any markings on it to tell
me what model it is.

>Is your solex the kind with the little heater thing at the bottom that maybe 
>just stopped working?

It doesn't have the heater thing on it but I think I may have one sitting
around, maybe I will try that and see if it helps.

>later
>Dave

Thanks

Keith

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From: steven.heylen@rug.ac.be
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:14:25 +0100
Subject: brakes

One of my brake shoes was badly adjusted (I have two adjusters on the 
lightweight for each shoe, up and down and left-right). The up and down 
adjustment is no problem, Jack up the vehicle, turn the wheel and hear if 
the shoe is near the drum...  The problem is the second adjuster to tilt the 
shoe (it's a military option). You can't hear or see if a shoe is perfectly 
horizontal or if it is a little bit turned to the right or left. So one of 
my shoes is now worn on one side. The result is unequal breaking (rover 
turns to one side if brakes are applied)
Is there a solution to this without putting a new shoe ? 
Is there a drawback on overadjusting a shoe (except wearing of the shoe), by 
overadjusting I mean putting the shoe so close to the drum that the wheel 
does not turn freely anymore.   

Thanks in advance,

Philippe Carchon
Ghent, Belgium
'81 lightweight.

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 08:09:57 EST
Subject: Re[2]: Fuel Problems Solved! Now Transfer Case!

> after being laid up for a while, the propshaft mysteriously
>acquired dud UJs...     (bad vibration above about 30mph)

didja try greasing em? I had my front prop start maiking horrendous vibration, 
and started looking for a replacement. One of the guys I asked refused to help 
me until I tried greasing em. Amazing what a difference a little maintenance 
made...

later
Dave

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:19:56 +0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fuel Problems Solved! Now Transfer Case!

No :-)      but they did have quite a bit of play in them.

Which reminds me, must be about time to re-grease them...

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org on 11/18/97 01:09:57 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)
Subject:  Re[2]: Fuel Problems Solved! Now Transfer Case!

> after being laid up for a while, the propshaft mysteriously
>acquired dud UJs...     (bad vibration above about 30mph)
didja try greasing em? I had my front prop start maiking horrendous
vibration,
and started looking for a replacement. One of the guys I asked refused to
help
me until I tried greasing em. Amazing what a difference a little
maintenance
made...
later
Dave

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From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:29:50 +0100
Subject: brakes

There was a wrong return adress on my server, so again the message (sorry 
for...).

One of my brake shoes was badly adjusted (I have two adjusters on the 
lightweight for each shoe, up and down and left-right). The up and down 
adjustment is no problem, Jack up the vehicle, turn the wheel and hear if 
the shoe is near the drum...  The problem is the second adjuster to tilt the 
shoe (it's a military option). You can't hear or see if a shoe is perfectly 
horizontal or if it is a little bit turned to the right or left. So one of 
my shoes is now worn on one side. The result is unequal breaking (rover 
turns to one side if brakes are applied)
Is there a solution to this without putting a new shoe ? 
Is there a drawback on overadjusting a shoe (except wearing of the shoe), by 
overadjusting I mean putting the shoe so close to the drum that the wheel 
does not turn freely anymore.   

Thanks in advance,

Philippe Carchon
Ghent, Belgium
'81 lightweight.

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:16:12 -0500
From: Dale Desprey <daled@iosphere.net>
Subject: Spot Welding Aluminum

How did Land Rover spot weld the aluminum body panels.  To do it today, you
need sheilding gas and expensive equipment.  I can't imagine what they did
in the 50's.  Carbon Arc?

Dale Desprey
1968 88 Diesel "Hogarth" - (For Sale)
1988 Range Rover "The Gin Palace"
Ottawa, Canada

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:16:39 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu>
Subject: Re: brakes

On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be wrote:

> horizontal or if it is a little bit turned to the right or left. So one 
 of 
 my shoes is now worn on one side. The result is unequal breaking (rover 
 turns to one side if brakes are applied)
> Is there a solution to this without putting a new shoe ? 

It would depend on how bad the unevenness is.  If it is not too bad, you
might be able to file or grind it flat.  The pull will be less if the shoe
is on a rear axle.  I wouldn't muck around with them too much, though.
Brakes are rather useful, and shoes are cheap. 

> Is there a drawback on overadjusting a shoe (except wearing of the
shoe), by 
 overadjusting I mean putting the shoe so close to the drum that the wheel 
 does not turn freely anymore.   
> Is there a drawback on overadjusting a shoe (except wearing of the

Reduced fuel economy, loss of performance, risk of fire, severe bodily
injury or death. Other than that, no.  If you have to work to spin the
wheel, so does the Rover.  Thus the loss of power, and fuel mileage (read
kilometers, if you are one of them).  Also, the shoe dragging on the drum
produces a lot of heat, which can lead to bearing failure or even a fire,
boiling brake fluid.  If you are doing this to save having to adjust the
brakes as often, don't.  Adjusting the brakes is a 10 minute job, even in
10 F darkness.  If you need to adjust them to much there is probably
something else wrong-- oversized drums, undersized shoes,worn adjusters,
brake steady posts that don't. 

 
David 
66 SIIA 88
--------
David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu

yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG*  -- no terrier

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:07:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

Solex carburettors (which I believe you mentioned you had) also had an
electric carburettor heater built-into the cold-start mechanism. These
carbs were prone to icing, as Webers are also (to which I can personally
attest).

If you can, you might want to nose around and see if you can come up with
the electric heat bit off an old Solex. This would fix your problem if yoy
can't manage to replace the spring on your heat riser.

If this doesn't help, a radiator muff should give you some relief. Any way
that gets the air in the engine compartment warmer should help alleviate
the problem.

                         Alan

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:24:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

Solex carburettors (which I believe you mentioned you had) also had an
electric carburettor heater built-into the cold-start mechanism. These
carbs were prone to icing, as Webers are also (to which I can personally
attest).

If you can, you might want to nose around and see if you can come up with
the electric heat bit off an old Solex. This would fix your problem if yoy
can't manage to replace the spring on your heat riser.

If this doesn't help, a radiator muff should give you some relief. Any way
that gets the air in the engine compartment warmer should help alleviate
the problem.

                         Alan

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:31:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Water problem

Re: Waterproofing:

No way in heavy rains to do this, but your problem is most likely a bad
gasket between the windshield and the top of the bulkhead, or a bad door
weatherseal.

Either of these is easily available and easy to replace.

                    Alan

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:08:15 -0400
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman Wing)
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

I have a Pierce as well, and used to have all sorts of icing problems. I
fitted a 190degree thermostat and a muff, and the problem has not occured
again... I imagine you could make your own heat riser if the probelm
persisted.

Braman

66 IIA 88" Petrol

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:21:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Spot Welding Aluminum

>From what I've seen, most likely a flux between the panels and a carbon-rod
welding handle.

You want a schematic for one?

                    Alan

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From: sandpebble@juno.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:23:41 -0500
Subject: Re: British Northworst is now on the web -- Message Thread

Could someone supply address/telephone references for "BNW", "RN", "AB",
"BB", "DAP", "BP" and J. Peters?  I'm very new to Land Rover World and
would like to learn more about parts suppliers for Series and Defender
models.  Not yet sure I can afford to own a Land Rover but I'm very
interested in them.  Thanks in advance for any information or assistance
offered.  Mike R. sandpebble@juno.com

On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:55 -0800 "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
writes:
>I will readily concede Chuck's command of the English language.  The 
>catalog is
>written on par with the J. Peters catalog (which I get in order to 
>read, and
>never purchase a thing!).  

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 60 lines)]
> adds in Hemming's Motor News...This guy must be an Cambridge Grad!
> Moral of the story: Leise Faire!

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:15:30 -0800
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: British Northworst is now on the web -- Message Thread (+ off topic)

BP:	British Pacific	 800.554.4133	http://www.britishpacific.com
RN:	Rovers North     802.879.0032 	http://www.roversnorth.com
AB:	Atlantic British 800.533.2210	http://www.roverparts.com
BB:	British Bulldog	 508.674.4500   http://www.britishbulldog.com
DAP:	DAP, Inc.	 802.885.6660	http://www.vermontel.com/~dapinc

J. Peterman (*not* Peters, as I orignally posted!) is a clothing catalog which
has some very unique clothes and other random travel stuff.  The text
accompanying the items in the catalog is quite entertaining and wonderfully
crafted.  Just reading the catalog is a real escape.  It's worth reading even if
you don't plan on purchasing anything (BTW, the text is on the web page, so you
can save trees if you want).

The clothing is similar to the "Land Rover Lifestyle" clothing, but has a more
sincere feel--like the people picking out what to sell actually use the stuff. 
J. Peterman can be found on the web at http://www.jpeterman.com, and via phone
at 800.231.7341.  

I don't work for any of these companies (jeez, I make computer graphics chips),
so this is just info--not advertising.

C
________________________________________________________________________
sandpebble@juno.com wrote:
Could someone supply address/telephone references for "BNW", "RN", "AB",
"BB", "DAP", "BP" and J. Peters?  I'm very new to Land Rover World and
would like to learn more about parts suppliers for Series and Defender
models.  Not yet sure I can afford to own a Land Rover but I'm very
interested in them.  Thanks in advance for any information or 
assistance offered.  Mike R. sandpebble@juno.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:18:19 -0800
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: British Northworst is now on the web -- Message Thread (+ off topic)

Regarding J. Peterman:  

I forgot to mention that the stuff in the catalog is fantastically expensive.

C

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 18 Nov 97 11:27:09 MST
Subject: LR shocks

From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ e-mail: debrown@srp.gov
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
Aren't the FRONT shocks for the 88 and 109 the same? What's the difference
if they're not?

Thanks, Dave Brown

 Never give up your life for          #=======#         _____l___
 anything that death can take away.   |__|__|__\___    //__|__|__\___
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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Lamborghini 4X4 Sighting
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:08:53 +0000

Yesterday on my way down the NY State Thruway around exit 16 I spotted a
rather strange red/almost pink looking vehicle approaching very fast from
the rear.  The front looked almost like an old J**p wagoneer but a bit
wider.  I was doing my usual 85 and by the time I pulled to the right this
thing blew by me like I was standing still...I knew this was nothing I had
ever seen before so I caught up ( I had the Saab Turbo so it was not a
problem) to get a closer look.  
    This is the Lamborghini LM American .  Not as wide as a Hummer but Much
taller. It was a 4 door with the rear portion beyond the pass. compartment
open with what looked like additional bench style seating and a grab rail
around the outside. This thing sounded like a jet!! 
It had Florida Plates so I guess he was heading for warmer climes
anyone else seen one of these?

On my way back North this morning I also spotted a more modest AA Yellow
D-90 with a snorkel heading south, but he was travelling a bit slower than
the lamborghini. 
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Lamborghini 4X4 Sighting
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:17:57 -0800

Lamborghini LM002 were very popular as desert transportation for wealthy
Arabs etc.

They have the same engine (tuned a bit differently) as a Countach - a
V12 of around 5.7 liters producing close to 400 hp.

Quite an awesome beast.

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	ASFCO@worldnet.att.net [SMTP:ASFCO@worldnet.att.net]
>Sent:	Tuesday, November 18, 1997 11:09 AM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Lamborghini 4X4 Sighting

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 31 lines)]
>WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
>                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Pictures
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:22:48 +0000

At 07:08 PM 11/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Forgot to mention if anyone is interested in seeing  a Lamborghini lma they

have a website  http://home.lamborghini.com
click on gallery and look for lma
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:24:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Lamborghini 4X4 Sighting

I just saw a late 80's model advertised in the Du pont registry for 60k

Paul Quin wrote:

> Lamborghini LM002 were very popular as desert transportation for
> wealthy
> Arabs etc.
> They have the same engine (tuned a bit differently) as a Countach - a
> V12 of around 5.7 liters producing close to 400 hp.
> Quite an awesome beast.

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
> >WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
> >                   68 S lla 88

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Lamborghini 4X4 Sighting
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:25:55 +0000

At 07:08 PM 11/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Yesterday on my way down the NY State Thruway around exit 16 I spotted a
>rather strange red/almost pink looking vehicle approaching very fast from
>the rear.  The front looked almost like an old J**p wagoneer but a bit
>wider.  I was doing my usual 85 and by the time I pulled to the right this
>thing blew by me like I was standing still...I knew this was nothing I had
>ever seen before so I caught up ( I had the Saab Turbo so it was not a

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)]
>WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
>                   68 S lla 88                 
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: "Cooper, Paul" <P.Cooper@shu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Series BMP
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:10:07 -0000

I would like a copy if you don't mind

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From:	Mark Talbot [SMTP:rangerover@top.monad.net]
Sent:	Saturday, November 15, 1997 8:51 PM
To:	lro@playground.sun.com
Subject:	Series BMP

I have a picture of a Series vehicle. I don't want to post it because it has
naked lady in front of it !!! Well she has a scarf on and is wearing boots !

So to be totally P.C if anyone wants a copy, e-mail me and I will send it to
you.

Don't flame me, I'm being considerate and sensitive to those that may be
offended !

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:17:10 -0500
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: J. Petermen (No Rover content)

>J. Peterman (*not* Peters, as I orignally posted!) is a clothing catalog which
>has some very unique clothes and other random travel stuff.  The text
>accompanying the items in the catalog is quite entertaining and wonderfully
>crafted.  Just reading the catalog is a real escape.  It's worth reading
>even if
>you don't plan on purchasing anything (BTW, the text is on the web page,
>so you
>can save trees if you want).

Some years ago when I was in the ad game I worked with the guy responsible
for writing all of those snippets. (Petermen was a friend of his.) He used
to run little bits by me during our downtime and we'd put the polish on
them. Interesting guy--I wish we hadn't lost touch. Doesn't look anything
like Julia Louise Dreyfuss though. . .

RoverOn!

jab

==
Jeffrey A. Berg
Macintosh Systems Consultant
Phone     (212) 649-2322
FAX        (212) 957-8524
mailto:jberg@hearstnewmedia.com

To report HNMC Macintosh problems use
mailto:support@hearstnewmedia.com
Remember, the subject line must include
NMC MAC "Brief Description"

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:21:59 -0500
Subject: Re: J. Petermen (No Rover content)

You guys have been watching too much Seinfeld :)

Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> >J. Peterman (*not* Peters, as I orignally posted!) is a clothing
> catalog which
> >has some very unique clothes and other random travel stuff.  The text
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)]
> >so you
> >can save trees if you want).

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 34 lines)]
> Remember, the subject line must include
> NMC MAC "Brief Description"

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From: "Fluf" <Fluf@mcmail.com>
Subject: Re: Series BMP
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:21:25 -0000

Mark

Can you send me a copy too !!

Marc
(Fluf@mcmail.com)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Talbot <rangerover@top.monad.net>
Date: 15 November 1997 20:44
Subject: Series BMP

>I have a picture of a Series vehicle. I don't want to post it because it

has
>naked lady in front of it !!! Well she has a scarf on and is wearing boots
!
>So to be totally P.C if anyone wants a copy, e-mail me and I will send it

to
>you.
>Don't flame me, I'm being considerate and sensitive to those that may be
>offended !

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From: "Fluf" <Fluf@mcmail.com>
Subject: Land Rover pictures
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:23:20 -0000

Hi

Does anyone know of any good sites on the Internet to get decent pictures of
Land Rovers ??  I want some for my PC backdrop.

Thanks

Fluf
(Fluf@mcmail.com)

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:50:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Nov LROI arrived

I got my magazine today 11-18-97. Same grey plastic baggy as always, from
some place in New Jersey. They should try mailing them from old Jersey,
maybe?!?
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:56:18 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Water problem

Geoffrey Said wrote:

>Has anyone made his series vehicle water proof.  Water seems to be entering
>near the hinge that supports the wind screen.

That's it.  Actually, it *is* the hinge...if you have a late IIa or Series 
III.  The T-bolt goes into the windscreen frame at the bottom of a little 
gutter.  When it rains, a surprising amount (i.e., enough to fill up your 
left boot) will get inside and run down the clutch pedal. Seal the juncture 
of the bolt/frame with silicone sealant on a tooth pick.  A little dab'll 
do ya'.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:56:21 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Component life

As I'm having the brake shoes rebonded right now, I thought I'd reviatilize 
the rest of the system.  After switching to silicone fluid three years ago, 
all the dust caps/wheel cylinders look great with no leaks or seeps.  When I 
used to run with the old, hygroscopic Castrol/Girling LMA, I used to siphon 
out the fluid every year or two.  Silicone is not hygroscopic, but does 
anyone know of it's service life?  As far as I'm concerned, silicone's only 
drawback is its price, $7-8 a pint.  (I know, I should buy it by the gallon.)
Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:56:34 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: 50th Anniversary

As long as talk of a fiftieth is being bandied about, the biggest gathering 
is likely to be a cooperative effort between the Ottawa Valley Land Rovers, 
Bay State Rover Owners Club and the Rover Owners Association of Virginia.  
The event will be held the weekend of July 31, August 1 and 2 at the Greek 
Peak ski area near Cortland, NY (Finger Lakes area), a site mid-way between 
the three above-mentioned clubs.  It will also mark the first sanctioned 
rally by the Association of North American Rover Clubs.  [add a "Y" and you 
have ANARCy! ;-) ]  More to follow.

Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Carb frosting

Keith Elliott wrote:

>After starting the beast the base of the carb starts turning white and it
>runs real bad!!!

Carb icing is usually *not* a problem below freezing.  When I was a pilot, 
the worst-case scenario was usually summertime.  When an increase in 
altitude would bring the air temperature down to 35-40 degrees, carb icing 
was a real threat.  As the humid air was mixed with the fuel, the vaporizing 
petrol would lower the temp to below freezing and carb icing would result, 
blocking off the carb throat with alarming speed.  Of course, planes have 
"carb heat" to cure the problem. Are you running with the original oil bath? 
 Headers, perhaps?  I've never had a problem with the Zenith in over 25 
years.  Perhaps the design of the Solex is more prone to icing.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
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      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:15:16 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Land Rover pictures

You are welcome to borrow from my website at -

http://www.channel6.dk/private/rover1.htm

if anything catches your fancy!

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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:16:37 +0800 (SGT)
From: torque@pacific.net.sg (Lawrence Lee)
Subject: Re: Series BMP

>From: Mark Talbot <rangerover@top.monad.net>
>To: lro@playground.sun.com <lro@playground.sun.com>
>Date: 15 November 1997 20:44
>Subject: Series BMP

>>I have a picture of a Series vehicle. I don't want to post it because it
Mark,

Please send me a copy too

Thanks

Lawrence Lee, Art Director
Torque Class Magazine,
The Only Motor Magazine You Have to be Seen In
MPH Trade Publications (S) Pte Ltd,
12 Tagore Drive, Singapore 787621
Tel: 453 8200  DID: 450 6005  Fax: 453 8600

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:58:46 -0800 (PST)
From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery)
Subject: Frosting Weber carbs

The problem du juer seems to be freezing carbs.  I found that my problem was
caused by air leaks between my single barrel Weber carb, the spacer it sits
on, and the intake manifold.  The fix was quick and cheap; just replace the
two seals between these three parts.  That should help considerably.  Jeff
Aaronson pointed me in the right direction on this last February after I
replaced my old, tired engine with a new Turner.  I purchased a new intake
manifold at the same time and did a poor job of installing the carb on it
(rushing to get done while working in the snow and wind at night,
brrrrrrrrr!).  

Hope this helps.
-----
   Dale W. Avery KC7MM
   Tigger - '73 88" canvas top
     

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:14:01 -0700
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Carb frosting

At 07:56 PM 18/11/97 -0500, Alexander P. Grice, wrote

>Carb icing is usually *not* a problem below freezing.  When I was a pilot, 
>the worst-case scenario was usually summertime. 

Oh so true.  Once on a nice bright spring day when I was flying bush in the
arctic (about the time Series vehicles were space age technology) I pushed
in the carb heat too soon on climb out and about as quick as it takes to
type this I got a sudden and drastic power drop.  If I hadn't immediately
put on the heat my near gross weight, back of the power curve, climb-out
would have turned into a rather nasty day.  It can be as sudden as that in
flying or it can be a gradual and insidious thing that builds up unnoticed
during a descent until you suddenly need to, absolutely must, push on the
power.  

I've often seen frost on the outside of my Solex but no carb icing.  I'm
switching to a Weber soon so I'm interested in any anecdotal advice.  

Water freezing in the gas line got to be a bit of problem last winter until
I started adding a good dollop of methyl alcohol to the tank on every fill.

 

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:17:54 -0500
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Spot Welding Aluminum

> How did Land Rover spot weld the aluminum body panels.  To do it
> today, you
> need sheilding gas and expensive equipment.  I can't imagine what they
> did
> in the 50's.  Carbon Arc?

My understanding is that the standard auto industry practice for spot
welding aluminum is very similar to spot welding steel. The major
difference is that Al requires around 3 times more current due to its
higher conductivity.

Spot welding is fundamentally different from arc welding (including MIG)
or gas welding. A spot welder has two copper alloy electrode tips which
squeeze the metal panels together. Current then flows through the panels
from one tip to the other, and is concentrated in the area of contact
between the tips. This locally heats the metal so that it welds
together. The direct contact and pressure may be the reason shielding,
etc. is not required for Al.

The increased current requirements are the reason small hand-held spot
welders are only rated for welding steel. I'd like to try spot welding
Al with someone else's though.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:52:52 +0100
From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Land Rover pictures

On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 09:23:20PM -0000, Fluf wrote:

> Does anyone know of any good sites on the Internet to get decent pictures of
> Land Rovers ??  I want some for my PC backdrop.

Have a look at my website. If you drop me a line about what you want to
do with the pictures you are welcome to download anything you want. 
If you want them for comercial use we should be able to reach an 
agreement, too.

cu.
Franz
PS. My website will be off the web in January or February :-(
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz

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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:06:36 +0100
From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Bye for now

Hello Rovers,
I'm sad to tell you that I have to unsubscribe for unknown time.
I finally found a job and I will have to finish my doctorial
theses until the end of the year. This won't leave me enough
time for reading the list. Until the end of December I will still 
be reachable by private email and on eu-lro. If someone likes
a part of my webpage please download it, since it will most
likely vanish in January/February or a bit later.

I want to thank all of you for all the fun I had on this list 
and the many things I learned about Land Rovers.

Bye!
Franz, hoping to be back sometime in the future.....
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
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      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
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