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1 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit27bouncing
2 David Russell [David_R@m14[not specified]
3 Adrian Redmond [channel651Re: misc. Bang Bang
4 WJMcD@aol.com 30Right Hand vs Left Hand
5 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd48Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
6 philippe.carchon@rug.ac.15few questions
7 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M38Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
8 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus22Borg Warner Rochester Carb Kit
9 Adrian Redmond [channel651Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
10 Adrian Redmond [channel627Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
11 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd64Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
12 Adrian Redmond [channel644Brakes (lr content)
13 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus69Re: copyrighted names
14 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M10Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand
15 Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun 43[not specified]
16 Michael Carradine [cs@la56Re: Brakes (lr content)
17 Tom Coron [tcoron@nswc.n19RHD vs LHD
18 Adrian Redmond [channel631Re: RHD vs LHD
19 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 12Re: Jerry Can Source
20 "Fred Herman" [hfherman@17Smith's heater switch
21 nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.one10Re: Jerry Can Source
22 nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.one12more thoughts: Jerry Can Source
23 Wayne Haight [whaight@ha23Generator Brushes
24 QROVER80@aol.com 11Good Jerry Can Source in the UK
25 john cranfield [john.cra19Re: Smith's heater switch
26 QROVER80@aol.com 10Re: Smith's heater switch
27 philip.searle@abbott.com17Re: Gun Rack Mounting
28 Solihull@aol.com 22Another Jerry Can Source
29 john cranfield [john.cra19Re: Generator Brushes
30 William Caloccia [calocc25[not specified]
31 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo13Re: solid aluminium rivits
32 "K. John Wood" [jwrover@47Re: bouncing
33 ASFCO@worldnet.att.net 22Re: solid aluminium rivits
34 "Mathew Stace" [landyman35Not Green Rover (+ a serious bit!)
35 ASFCO@worldnet.att.net 21Re: Not Green Rover..Mystery is solved
36 James Wolf [J.Wolf@world17old UK computer
37 BarrieWyLR@aol.com 9Re: Long Distance Hauling
38 John Putnam [jdputnam@st49Daily comuter + work truck
39 John Putnam [jdputnam@st12M16 Trailer
40 David L Glaser [dlglaser17Re: Good Jerry Can Source in the UK
41 vic hanna [vhanna@info.b39SIII- Mounting a radio


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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:38:16 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: bouncing

Baby has new tie rod ends, new springs, etc., etc., and usually rides very
nicely these days, in spite of a slight tilt to one side. The other day I
was merrily driving along until I came to a recently-laid stretch of
grooved concrete pavement. Suddenly the front end began a rhytmic bounce,
as if there were flat places on the tires, or maybe lug nuts coming off. I
stopped and checked. Everything seemed fine. Got back in and bounced along
until I came to another stretch of new concrete pavement, where the bounce
stopped as abruptly.

Since the front end is virtually new, and everything seems tight when
driving elsewhere, I am tempted to blame the road. I was doing about 65,
which is Baby's favored highway speed.

All about Iceland:       http://www.dmv.com/~iceland------------
Research and Land Rovers:http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html
_________
|  BABY   \_===__
|  ___        ___|       Always remember to pillage
|_/   \______/   ||      BEFORE you burn.

___\_/________\_/_____                   ---- Ned the Horrible
Ned Heite  Camden, DE    

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Subject: Re: 	copyrighted names
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 97 08:54:28 -0500
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>

Ah ah!  Lenin is not taken so it's mine, all mine!!!!!!

Long live the Revolution!!!!

David Russell
http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r
David_R@mindspring.com
1969 SIIA SWB (Pastel Green, 4-speed)
1997 SD (Oxford Blue, 5-speed)
1977 FJ40 (rust, 8-speed (hopefully still))

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 14:02:23 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: misc. Bang Bang

Sorry if my comments from the old world on the firearms issue have added
further fuel to fire - no lr content I'll admit, but the beauty of this
list - as I have philosophised many times, is that, through our common
interest, we all get access to friends and acquaintences in many parts
of the world, all with different cultures and ideas. It would be a pity
if our list was reduced to sheer auto-techno-talk like mant of the
alt.gxl.super.2000GTI.speedy.gotta-have-one.com lists - and that opinion
seems to be shared by many on the evidence of the contributions, and
tacitly welcomed by even more, judging by the number of subscribers.

I love to hear how someone in Oregon repairs a footwell, or how the
indestructabble but nonetheless incombusionable Solex fares in Mexico,
but I am equally interested in the peope behind these postings - their
idea and opinions, customs and cultures, whilst not necessarily
mirroring my own, are interesting, and their being aired makes this list
what it is.

Having just visited the new world for the first time in my life, I am
purturbed by the prevalence of firearms, but equally impressed by the
determination America exhibits in dealing with drunken driving - two
sides of the same coin, knowledge of both in some way contributes to an
understanding of the other.

of course we could stick to the solex and the footwells, but if we're
adult enough to drive cars and carry guns, surely we're adult enough to
discuss them?

have a nicve day!

Adrian Redmond

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From: WJMcD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:56:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Right Hand vs Left Hand

Firdtly, I own two British vehicles. A RHD Land Rover and a LHD MGB. 

When using my right hand, I feel I have more control over my vehicle.
Although, I am able to manuver through the tight spots, over bumps and wet
surfaces in full control while feeling the tension and excitment of these
conditions, I can also loosen my grip and just enjoy the rides of the
smoother surfaces. 

I find that when I am using my left hand, I feel a somewhat disconnected from
my vehicle. Almost a sense that someone else is driving. There is always a
certain jerkiness and inability to handle the other details, such as fiddling
with the various knobs and gadgets.

All in all, I'd say this has always been a silly debate. Learn to enjoy both.
Sticking with one side or the other makes jack... well, a dull boy! (or girl)

Did you know that "sinister" is derived from the latin term meaning
"left-handed".

Cheers 'n' Regards
Bill McDonald
69 (opps) 109- Beauty, RHD
66 MGB- The Race Car, LHD
75 Honda 400F Super Sport- The Beast.. on which I use both hands

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:10:36 +0000
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

>Did you know that "sinister" is derived from the latin term meaning
>"left-handed".
Yes, and "dextral" for right-handed.

These terms are still used in geology to describe fault motions.
The San Andreas is dextral (the far side to the side you're standing on,
moves to the right), whilst I can't think of any sinistral ones off-hand!
:-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

WJMcD@aol.com on 11/07/97 02:56:30 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  Right Hand vs Left Hand

Firdtly, I own two British vehicles. A RHD Land Rover and a LHD MGB.
When using my right hand, I feel I have more control over my vehicle.
Although, I am able to manuver through the tight spots, over bumps and wet
surfaces in full control while feeling the tension and excitment of these
conditions, I can also loosen my grip and just enjoy the rides of the
smoother surfaces.
I find that when I am using my left hand, I feel a somewhat disconnected
from
my vehicle. Almost a sense that someone else is driving. There is always a
certain jerkiness and inability to handle the other details, such as
fiddling
with the various knobs and gadgets.
All in all, I'd say this has always been a silly debate. Learn to enjoy
both.
Sticking with one side or the other makes jack... well, a dull boy! (or
girl)
Did you know that "sinister" is derived from the latin term meaning
"left-handed".
Cheers 'n' Regards
Bill McDonald
69 (opps) 109- Beauty, RHD
66 MGB- The Race Car, LHD
75 Honda 400F Super Sport- The Beast.. on which I use both hands

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From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:09:15 +0100
Subject: few questions

Charles, 

there is extensive 'play' in the U-joint itself. It seems that he's too 
small but that is not the case. It's original LR and the good type (number)
So the shaft worn ?

Philippe Carchon
Ghent, Belgium
'81 ffr lightweight.

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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:00:28 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

>I find that when I am using my left hand, I feel a somewhat disconnected from
>my vehicle.
>Did you know that "sinister" is derived from the latin term meaning
>"left-handed".
A right handed person,in a right handed world,never has to adapt.
Therefore the left hand almost becomes the bit where the left arm
has frayed at the end.Left handed people,on the other hand(pun only
semi-intentional)are *always* having to adapt.Therefore their
"unused" side does,in fact,get used.As an example,I am left handed
writing,at cricket,and at golf(which I dont play anymore.I kept
getting soundly trounced by my wife!).At table I am right handed,
possibly because this was the only aspect of left handedness which
my parents discouraged.In passing,this was decidedly forward looking
of them since at that time;the early fifties;children seen writing
left handed were actively persecuted by the teaching profession.
I was,but fortunately my parents had it stopped.It was apparently
considered evidence of evil,possibly due to that stupid latin word
sinistra,or left,which translates into sinister.If playing(or playing
*at* playing) an instrument I am,again,right handed.However,using tools
I can use either hand,which in the confines of an awkward underbonnet
situation is most useful.Knocking nails in until your arm gets tired?
Use the other one,you've got two.Same goes for sawing wood.
I have briefly driven a LHD vehicle,and apart from the actual physical
position within the vehicle it felt quite normal.Mind you,I dont think
I would quickly get used driving on the RHS of the road.Put that down to
age......
It is sometimes a source of annoyance that someone good with their hands
is called "dexterous" or right handed,dexter being the latin for right.
And that an individual capable of using either hand is "ambidextrous".
Dog latin has a lot to answer for.

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Borg Warner Rochester Carb Kit
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 97 11:17:16 EST

The Borg Warner kit number for Rochester B's (and methinks
this includes the automatic choke BV type as well) is:

Borg Warner carb kit #10158

List price $14.85

I paid $10.47 plus tax.

Kit includes all the gaskets, springs (weren't the same as mine),
balls (in case you loose 'em), needle valve and seat, that little
plunger thingy that wears out, some other assorted little stuff
for the automatic choke you don't have, and a Schibish paper
float leveling device that works just fine.

rd/nige

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:46:45 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

I an right handed, my wife and daghter are "cacky-handed" as one used to
say (or even "Kejthaandede" as they say in Danish) - besides being a
continual source of amusement and harmless fun-poking at work and home,
I must admit that hands of the lefted persuasion can come in extremely
useful at times.

Have you ever tried knowcking a nail in with the "wrong" hand? No
problem, call the wife over . 'you take this end, I'll take that end'
job soon finished, no bust fingers.

And the land rover - apart from being assembled by the lefthanded of
solihull, is hardly a delight for those of us whose hands look like
workgloves (even when we're not earing workgloves)

There are simply places on a Series III where my hands just won't fit
(is that what they mean by 'where the sun don't shine?')

So be kind to those poor souls who have been born into a left handed
minority in a right handed world - buy them left handed rulers, left
handed tea-cups or spoons, even left handed gearboxes (like they have
over here in Europe?). These people are "useful to have around".

Just don't try sharing a computer with them - swapped mouse buttons or
wrong-handed mousing is a serious threat to your marriage.

And be glad - as the 70s became the 80s and then the 90's, the growing
number of minorities means that those of us who don't belong to at least
one minority are probably in a minority - or something along those
lines...
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:49:05 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

Could I in the name of political correctness propose replacing
AMBIDEXTEROUS with AMBIDIGEROUS (its better than AMBISINISTROUS)

MAYBE POLITICAL CORRECTED TERMINOLOGY SHOULD BE OUR NEXT NO LR CONTENT
THREAD ON THE LIST - ANY TAKERS?
Adrian Redmond

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:31:33 +0000
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

>And be glad - as the 70s became the 80s and then the 90's, the growing
>number of minorities means that those of us who don't belong to at least
>one minority are probably in a minority - or something along those
>lines...
We realised that at University - awareness marches and days for every group
under the sun except for White Heterosexual Males.

Should have started a Tyke (Yorkshire) Soc..

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

channel6@post2.tele.dk on 11/07/97 02:46:45 PM

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Subject:  Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

I an right handed, my wife and daghter are "cacky-handed" as one used to
say (or even "Kejthaandede" as they say in Danish) - besides being a
continual source of amusement and harmless fun-poking at work and home,
I must admit that hands of the lefted persuasion can come in extremely
useful at times.
Have you ever tried knowcking a nail in with the "wrong" hand? No
problem, call the wife over . 'you take this end, I'll take that end'
job soon finished, no bust fingers.
And the land rover - apart from being assembled by the lefthanded of
solihull, is hardly a delight for those of us whose hands look like
workgloves (even when we're not earing workgloves)
There are simply places on a Series III where my hands just won't fit
(is that what they mean by 'where the sun don't shine?')
So be kind to those poor souls who have been born into a left handed
minority in a right handed world - buy them left handed rulers, left
handed tea-cups or spoons, even left handed gearboxes (like they have
over here in Europe?). These people are "useful to have around".
Just don't try sharing a computer with them - swapped mouse buttons or
wrong-handed mousing is a serious threat to your marriage.
And be glad - as the 70s became the 80s and then the 90's, the growing
number of minorities means that those of us who don't belong to at least
one minority are probably in a minority - or something along those
lines...
Adrian Redmond
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:55:22 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Brakes (lr content)

My 88" is due for it's inspection soon so I must check the brakes, which
although not spongy, are not as biting as they used to be.

Some simple questions before I, overloaded with too many other things to
do this month, send the car to the mechanic instead -

Can the brake shoes be changed without bleeding the system?
How do you adjust for equal brake action afterwards?
My shoes are from 1990 and are squealing in dry weather - does this
indicate a brake material deposit on the indside of the drum, and is
this difficult to remove (and how)?

I have an aftermarket Pierburg vacuum pump driven by the fan belt - this
pump has a diaphragm about 100 mm diameter, with a hole in the middle
and six holes equidistant around the circumferance to hold the punmp
body sandwiched around the diaphragm, together.

Does anyone know of a source of spare rubber diaphragms? (No jokes
pleeeeeeze!)

thansk

Adrian Redmond

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: copyrighted names
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 97 11:34:06 EST

Upside Down Daryl wrote:

***
Oohh Russ looks like let Nige get to the computer again :-)
***

amazin' how well he types with those 235/85 x 16 Mud Terrains, eh?
(don't ask him to do any ASCII art, though)

***
<snip>

>Please also note that any use, inferrance, or passing mention of
>the phrase "Nigel's Disease" shall from henceforth also consitute a
>copyright infringement.  However, rights to this particular copyright
>are shared equally amoungst some early list members, such as Mike Rooth,
>Dixon Kenner, Dale Despey, Daryl that guy from Down Under who we never
>hear from anymore, Bill Callocia, and Sandy Grice.

Aww Gee Russ, I didnt know you cared :-)
***

just sharing...

***
Well, as you can see I have a spy or two keeping me abreast of the most 
important list events, (like "Mums" little adventure without engine 
mounts, Well done Terri-ann)  and of course your (our) copyrighted names.
***

you, too, eh?

***
Hey you must be slipping though, what about:

"Nigel no Mates". 

which may be the case after the first hundred or so court cases :-)
***

yeah, but I'll be RICH!

***
Could you get this registered on my behalf ??
***

for a price..

and Franz wrote:

***
you definitely forgot:
'Pale peasoup green Rover'
and while we are on the subject can I register the names of my LR
and that of a few friends?
Brumml,
Nelly,
Nautilus.
***

again, fork over the cash and they're yours...

rd/nige/mr.plow/red rover/daroach

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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:34:20 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Right Hand vs Left Hand

>Could I in the name of political correctness propose replacing
>AMBIDEXTEROUS with AMBIDIGEROUS (its better than AMBISINISTROUS)

Oh come on,Adrian,I'm not *that* bigoted about it:-)
Mike

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Subject: Re: Brakes (lr content)
From: Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun <ketilk@a.sol.no>
Date: 07 Nov 1997 17:51:57 +0100

Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> writes:

> Can the brake shoes be changed without bleeding the system?

Yes, no problem. Change the springs wile you're at it. If the
wheel cylinders are old, it might pay to change them at the same time -
in that case you'll obviously have to bleed the system. The reason for
changing the cylinders is that when they are disturbed, they tend to
spring leaks - which spells new cylinders, and new brake shoes, again.
(I'm redoing my front brakes after exchanging the shoes last winter. Now, 
I have a leak in at least one wheel cylinder :-( )

> How do you adjust for equal brake action afterwards?

As you would adjust the brakes normally. One tip I got from a mechanic
friend of mine is to adjust the brakes really tight - it should be difficult
to turn the wheel by hand, but not _very_ hard. The reason for this is that
the shoes, when new, needs to be 'bedded in' to the shape of the drum -
this will happen a lot faster if you overadjust a bit. Oh, and another thing :
rub the brake drums (the friction part of them, anyway) with some medium
sand (or whatever) paper, to get rid of the glazing.

> My shoes are from 1990 and are squealing in dry weather - does this
> indicate a brake material deposit on the indside of the drum,

Yes.

> and is
> this difficult to remove (and how)?

Not really - off with the wheel, and drum. Use a brush (and maybe some 
kind of cleaning fluid - CRCs 'Brakleen' is my personal favorite) to remove 
the dust. This dust may contain asbestos, so take your precautions !
If you see any leakages, prepare to spend $$ (or Kr Kr in your case :-).

-- 
---Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun, 1979 109" SW, 21/4 Petrol "Lillebil"
   "Frihed, lighed og en lille en i kaffen"

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 09:01:05 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Subject: Re: Brakes (lr content)

At 03:55 PM 11/7/97 +0100, Adrian Redmond wrote:
:Can the brake shoes be changed without bleeding the system?

 Yep, no problem!  There is no need to open up the fluid system.
 In the shoe replacement process, the plungers on the wheel
 cylinders will need to pushed in a bit which will squeeze
 fluid back to your reservoir.  If too full, it may overflow.

:How do you adjust for equal brake action afterwards?

 You tighten the shoes to the drum by the adjuster, 1/4 turn
 at a time by hand.  Then loosen it 2-4 turns until the brake
 drum turns freely.  Don't worry about minor scaping sounds as
 the shoes are new and may be rubbing on the sides a wee bit.

 After the wheels are let down, press the brake pedal slowly to 
 fill the wheel cylinders with fluid again and check the reservoir
 level.  Your brakes should be working fine.  If they are still
 spongy (which is different from not being grabby for a quick stop)
 it is probably time to check the fluid.  It should be flushed
 once a year... but that's another thread :) 

 Also, as you inspect the condition of the wheel cylinders, notice
 any fluid leaks and if the seals are intact, etc.  They may well
 need to be replaced.

 Do an axle at a time, front then back.

:My shoes are from 1990 and are squealing in dry weather - does this
:indicate a brake material deposit on the indside of the drum, and is
:this difficult to remove (and how)?

 The interior will be full of black deposit and muck!  Wear a mask.
 90% of this job is cleaning everything.  The squeal could be from
 deposit, but could also be the lining wearing through to the rivits
 (7 years is a long time!), or rubbing on the sides as the shoes are
 getting nearet to the drum.  It only takes a few minutes to pop the
 drum off... remove the wheel, then remove the two holding screws on
 the face of the drum, voila!  Cleaning and replacing shoes is maybe
 a 10-30 minute job per wheel.

:I have an aftermarket Pierburg vacuum pump driven by the fan belt - this
:pump has a diaphragm about 100 mm diameter, with a hole in the middle...

 Can't help you there.  I'll ask the girlfriend about this one later.

 Best regards,

-Michael

 www.landrover.net 

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:28:02 -0500
From: Tom Coron <tcoron@nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: RHD vs LHD

Hi LRO's:

Passengers in my RHD IIA are unerved on 2 lane roads
at the sight of oncoming cars just a few feet away. 
Must be something to do with not being in control of
the vehicle while being so close to the centerline.

One of the better things about having a RHD here, is the
reaction of other drivers when they see my brown Beagle
"type" mutt in what appears to be the drivers position.

Tom Coron
King George, Va
66 SWB RHD ( Slime Green )

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 19:46:31 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: RHD vs LHD

Tom Coron wrote:
> One of the better things about having a RHD here, is the
> reaction of other drivers when they see my brown Beagle
> "type" mutt in what appears to be the drivers position.

... and you can push elderly cyclists out of the saddle as you overtake
:)

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:49:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jerry Can Source

Dan: That too bad about Sportsman Guide being sold out, but if you get on
their mailing list you might be able to get one before too long. It seems
that they find caches of these things periodicly. I have one I bought from
them last year from an earlier sale. I found another at an Army Surplus store
by pure luck. Its actually a Russian made can, but on the exact NATO/German
Army pattern. Keep looking! Good luck. Andy

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From: "Fred Herman" <hfherman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Smith's heater switch
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:37:26 PST

I almost feel guilty asking a technical question and not mentioning 
colors or names, but it is getting cold.  I have an SIIa with the 
original rheostat heater switch for the shin burner heater.  I can't get 
a replacement - told Lucas quit making them years ago.  The only 
multi-speed switch I can find is a two speed, three position version.  
Has anyone else had this problem?   If so, how did you solve it?

Thanks for the help.
Fred Herman

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:19:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu
Subject: Re: Jerry Can Source

over the last year or so the sportsmans guide has had, east german, swiss
and russian jerricans, they'll have more especially if they realize how
many lr owners want them. By the way they always run 15-18$ and are of the
german ww2 and nato type. Next time they have some I'm buying more...
matt nelson

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:27:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu
Subject: more thoughts: Jerry Can Source

I know a lot of surplus stores got Swiss jerry cans (probably from the
same surplus importer the S.G. got them from...) If you look around you
might find some, they are the nicest of all I've seen. If you are anywhere
around NYS there is a surplus store north of Utica that has them for $25
I'll get the nameand directions if locals want...

Matt Nelson

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Date: 	Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:47:47 -1000
From: Wayne Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Generator Brushes

Aloha,

My charge light is coming on intermitently (on for a while off for a
while, etc.) so I suspect its time to replace the generator brushes.
I have a 1970 Series IIA and the generator I believe is a Lucas C40.

Are there common replacement brushes that I could get at a local parts
store? I would like to use my landie this weekend and would prefer not
to wait for mail-order.

Thanks,

-- 
Wayne R. Haight
Senior Fisheries Research Specialist
Joint Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research
2570 Dole Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:44:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Good Jerry Can Source in the UK

 PRB services in  Leeds England have several THOUSAND genuine, used British
army jerry cans in stock at about 5 Qid each. I think they are trying to
corner the market  Thats about $9 Quantity discounts :-? 
Ther numbers are: 0113 279 6039 or fax 0113 231 0708
Rgds Quintin

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:46:01 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Smith's heater switch

Fred Herman wrote:
> I almost feel guilty asking a technical question and not mentioning
> colors or names, but it is getting cold.  I have an SIIa with the
> original rheostat heater switch for the shin burner heater.  I can't get
> a replacement - told Lucas quit making them years ago.  The only
> multi-speed switch I can find is a two speed, three position version.
> Has anyone else had this problem?   If so, how did you solve it?

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> Fred Herman
> ______________________________________________________
Check with your local auto parts place and ask if they carry Cole Hersey
products I believe they make what you are looking for.
       Its worth a try       John and Muddy....not at all green

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:47:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  Smith's heater switch

I hate to say this but with the massive output of the smiths heater the slow
fan settings are useless. Just put in an on-off switch for the blower and be
done with it. 
Rgds Quintin

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From: philip.searle@abbott.com
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 14:52:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Gun Rack Mounting

My IIA swb came with a gun rack fitted on the RH roofside and bolted to the
roof and folding bench seats.  Will hold 3 weapons of your choice, all plainly
on view through the sliding glass rear windows.  In case you missed them
there's also a "protected by 357..." sticker under the licence plate.  The
Rover's in pieces and neither of the above will be refitted so if you want
them...

Phil Searle

'67 IIA swb
'63 TR4 etc...

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:59:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Another Jerry Can Source

There's a place in Marietta, GA that has a couple thousand Nato and Eastern
Bloc spec cans. Quality and condition varies widely. Last time I bought some
they were $10 each, cash and carry. I'll see if I can get the number, stay
tuned!!
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 17:03:03 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Generator Brushes

Wayne Haight wrote:
> Aloha,
> My charge light is coming on intermitently (on for a while off for a
> while, etc.) so I suspect its time to replace the generator brushes.
> I have a 1970 Series IIA and the generator I believe is a Lucas C40.
> Are there common replacement brushes that I could get at a local parts

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 20 lines)]
> 2570 Dole Street
> Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
I'll bet  there is an auto electrical rebuilder in your area who carried 
all kinds of brushes and will even put them in cheaper than you would
believe. let your fingers do the walking....
     John and Muddy ... no Green    not even a little bit.

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Subject: solid aluminium rivits 
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:11:14 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

Hi all,

	yes, it has come to that point in life were I need to decide if
I want to deal with them or choose plan b.

	the rivits them selves are readily available, the question is
what are the 'tools' that help you deal with them ?  Where can they
be obtained ? etc.

	Thanks, 
	Bill (whose land rover is now more apart than together)

         Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net
	 http://www.Caloccia.Net/wpc/
				  R
       http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
   R  1  3  2wd  H OD		  D
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      2  4  4wd  L N           |  2	    because
   '63 SII  RHD 88"            H  1	Land Rovers Last
      793-PTA            '90 RR County

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:21:03 -0500
Subject: Re: solid aluminium rivits

Aluminium rivet tools are not all that hard to come by (or use)...

All you need is a rivet buck and a set (basically the anvil and die to hold
and shape the rivet). Check with McKittrick hardware in Lowell, Bill -
they'll probably have them.

          aj"Or use Super Glue like Dixon!"r

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Subject: Re: bouncing
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:24:41 -0700

Hey Baby!!

One of two things is going on with that wicked little bounce ya got goin!

1) pour Shocks...probably not though if they are new.

2) Frequency!... Ya gotta watch the speed with which ya shake that thing
Baby!...Too slow on rutts and you'll jar yourself...To fast and you'll feel
slamming...Just right and you'll feel wavey-gravy Baby!

Yours'

Woody!

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> From: Ned Heite <eheite@dmv.com>
> To: lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: bouncing
> Date: Friday, November 07, 1997 5:38 AM
> Baby has new tie rod ends, new springs, etc., etc., and usually rides

very
> nicely these days, in spite of a slight tilt to one side. The other day I
> was merrily driving along until I came to a recently-laid stretch of
> grooved concrete pavement. Suddenly the front end began a rhytmic bounce,
> as if there were flat places on the tires, or maybe lug nuts coming off.
I
> stopped and checked. Everything seemed fine. Got back in and bounced
along
> until I came to another stretch of new concrete pavement, where the
bounce
> stopped as abruptly.
> Since the front end is virtually new, and everything seems tight when
> driving elsewhere, I am tempted to blame the road. I was doing about 65,
> which is Baby's favored highway speed.
> All about Iceland:       http://www.dmv.com/~iceland------------
> Research and Land Rovers:http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html
> _________
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> ___\_/________\_/_____                   ---- Ned the Horrible
> Ned Heite  Camden, DE    

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: solid aluminium rivits
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:00:27 +0000

At 09:21 PM 11/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Aluminium rivet tools are not all that hard to come by (or use)...
>All you need is a rivet buck and a set (basically the anvil and die to hold
>and shape the rivet). Check with McKittrick hardware in Lowell, Bill -
>they'll probably have them.

I wish I knew this beforehand as I was in Lowell a couple weeks ago.  Nobody
around here has this.  BTW isn't there an air tool for setting solid
rivits??  I have one for  pop rivits and it works well.
Rgds
Steve  
when I paint my lla its gonna be green for sure
>Aluminium rivet tools are not all that hard to come by (or use)...
>All you need is a rivet buck and a set (basically the anvil and die to hold
>and shape the rivet). Check with McKittrick hardware in Lowell, Bill -
>they'll probably have them.

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From: "Mathew Stace" <landyman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Not Green Rover (+ a serious bit!)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 22:40:34 GMT

Mine was delivered as RAF Blue, but is now some form of light blue (I 
dunno what it is!) with a white roof. It does however have bronze green 
under the paint on the bulkhead, seatbox, and various other bits like 
that inside.  Also, on one of the wheels, where the white paint is 
coming off, there is bronze green paint on that. So there :-P. Maybee 
I'll call her the "Blue-with-a-white-roof-and-some-green-bits Rover" 
Teehee.

I would love to find out about the service history of mine (RAF for 8 
years), and maybee even the original spec, just in case I stop being a 
student and get a job (or win the lottery) and restore the pig (whoops 
sorry, all copyrights regognised!), as I want to get her done up to 
original spec.  I believe there used to be a place in the UK, but I 
think I heard that had closed down thro' lack of government funding or 
something.  If anybody knows of somewhere to write to, please could you 
let me know.

Cheers, Mat
BTW, how many other Landys in the world are called Bertha - some lawsuit 
that one!

Mathew & Bertha ('68 SWB SIIA 2.25 petrol)
  white-bit here-> #=====#      
  Not green bit->  |___|__\___   
        here    -> | _ |   |_ |} 
White with green-> "(_)""""(_)"  
                                                                         

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Not Green Rover..Mystery is solved
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:56:00 +0000

At 10:40 PM 11/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Mine was delivered as RAF Blue, but is now some form of light blue (I 
>dunno what it is!) with a white roof. It does however have bronze green 
>under the paint on the bulkhead, seatbox, and various other 

The mystery is solved!!!!!
     YOU have got The ORIGINAL GREEN ROVER which for years was obscured in
Marine blue.  I read somewhere this was done secretly in the night by
someone else who bought a Rover that happened to be green in an effort to
conceal its true color and in doing so lay claim to being the first to have
a green rover.  
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 22:39:37
From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: old UK computer

Firstly, thanks for the info. regarding exhaust pipes.
Uncle Roger why would you want to ship old computers from the UK? I suppose
ups.dhl etc. would be the way to go.
 I now lay claim and copyright to the name Vicky, on my L-R since 1971 8^).

Rochester carbs. I have found two at yard-garage sales, also in the BP
catalogue he says he has reconditioned Rochesters. The one that I am using
came with the vehicle, in a box full of junk. About the K&N filter, I pick
it up tommorrow 11-8-97.

Jim Wolf
1966 109 sw "Vicky tm"6^).

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From: BarrieWyLR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:47:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Long Distance Hauling

I will drive it to u I am in Wy.  Just get me a plane ticket home

Barrie

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From: John Putnam <jdputnam@studiointhegrove.com>
Subject: Daily comuter + work truck
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:48:48 -0800
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From: 	Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Sent: 	Monday, November 03, 1997 1:16 PM
Subject: 	Re: Commuting in a Series

Do it. No question.

I just transferred ouit of Cambridge, MA to another facility closer to =
my
home. Prior to that, Mr. Churchill and I did a 65-mile commute daily for
the past 2.5 years. No fuss, no muss, no nonsense.

I've put over 40K miles on that silly old 109 since I rebuilt it....and =
I
have no worries about the next 40K.

No beater - Rover!

               Alan R./Mr. Churchill

I have a 30 mile one-way trip to work topped off by the fact that I also =
used the truck as survey vehical about one day a week.  In the 2.5 years =
I've owned the Rhino ('70 SIIa SWB) I've put about 38,000 on the beast.  =
Only had a few minor problems (new rearend, bad starter, & 3 electrical =
fires (god I love Lucas)).  I'm planning to start my own firm next year =
and at least for the first will use the Rhino for my full time survey =
rig.

P.S.

Sorry about the delay in posting, I've been working in the field for the =
last bit.

P.S. #2

For those of you who wrote me a while back about the SIIa wiring =
diagram.  I have it scaned and now need to add the little bits added on =
to NA vehicals. ( Flashers & such ).

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From: John Putnam <jdputnam@studiointhegrove.com>
Subject: M16 Trailer
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:05:47 -0800

Has anyone towed one of these behind a SIIa.  It seems a little heavy.

John Putnam
The cargo space chalenged
'70 SIIa SWB "Rhino"
Forest Grove, OR, USA

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:30:43 -0500
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Good Jerry Can Source in the UK

QROVER80@aol.com wrote:
>  PRB services in  Leeds England have several THOUSAND genuine, used British
> army jerry cans in stock at about 5 Qid each. I think they are trying to
> corner the market  Thats about $9 Quantity discounts :-?
> Ther numbers are: 0113 279 6039 or fax 0113 231 0708
> Rgds Quintin

I've been thinking about ordering from them for a while.  They usually
have a big ad in LRO.  I just wonder what shipping would be? Anyone have
an idea? I'd like to get about 4 cans.  

David G

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 11:57:25 +0000
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio
From: vic hanna <vhanna@info.bw>

On a wonderful SIII S/W which took us all over Botswana (and elsewhere) the
radio/tape and speakers were mounted on a shelf which the previous owner ha=
d
built across the top of the windscreen.  In other words, a padded shelf
covered in black leatherette, extended right across the top of the screen
door to door which not only acted as a dumping ground for all sorts of
paraphernalia but as a bit of a sun screen as well.  There was about 6"
between the shelf, which had a lip to prevent things falling off, and the
inside of the roof.  Best idea I've seen yet for a radio (and other things)
in a SIII!  Incidentally, the dust played havoc with the tape, so I'd
suggest a CD in an enclosure if dust is a problem.  If I remember a slight
adaptation was necessary for the rear view mirror.
Regards 
Vic Hanna =80=A0Media Communications =80 Private Bag BR26 =80=A0Broadhurst =80 GABORONE
=80 Botswana
Tel: +267 302586 =80=A0Fax: +267 307209

'95 Disco 

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From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: SIII-  Mounting a radio
Date: 30 Oct 1997 13:31:11 -0400

Does anyone have pointers for mounting a stereo in an SIII?  I'd rather sta=
y
away from the under-dash slide mount things.  Any better ideas out there?  =
 

Rgds,

Jeff Jackson
Waterford, CT 
73 SIII 88 (Camilla)

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